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message 1: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Too bad we can't add The Closing of the American Mind.


message 2: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Or Wuthering Heights or The Flowering of New England.


message 3: by Thom (new)

Thom Dunn We can have a gerunds list for Flowering...., but isn't Wuthering a participial adjective ? These Old School terms always seemed so slippery to me......that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Do what you think best, I'm sure it'll be CORRECTER THAN ME. (Sorry, couldn't resist funnin' with you).


message 4: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl No, I didn't even know what a present participle was until I read your description. I'm going with the law you laid down. Yes, I think Wuthering is an adjective.


message 5: by Thom (new)

Thom Dunn One of the simplest and best tests is to put "the" in front of the element and see how it sounds. If it sounds good, too bad, you've got a gerund....We have a couple of onions in our petunia patch already--About Looking is one--but what-the-heck.


message 6: by Thom (new)

Thom Dunn And "flying" in Fear of Flying looks a lot like the object of a preposition, hence a noun. I think Studs' Terkel's Working is also a substantive as he intends it to be understood. Let's just keep collecting and eventually open up a gerund list. ....What would you call "Stompin' at the Savoy" ?


message 7: by Reese (new)

Reese Thom wrote: "And "flying" in Fear of Flying looks a lot like the object of a preposition, hence a noun. I think Studs' Terkel's Working is also a substantive as he intends it to be understood. Let's just keep c..."

I know that you want to allow "onions" to stay (at least for now) in the "petunia patch," but the result may be an onion patch with a couple of petunias. In addition to the already mentioned works, two other subtitles with gerunds that are objects of prepositions caught my eye. I also saw the following: 1) a subtitle with a gerund that is the last item in a series of nouns, 2) a subtitle with a pres. progressive verb(HOW CONGRESS IS FAILING. . . ). I hate to keep dropping bombs; but I think that, without a noun preceding or following the verbal or verbal phrase (i.e., a noun/pronoun modified by the verbal), the verbal is functioning as a naming word, making the verbal a gerund. So doesn't the list consist almost entirely of titles/subtitles with gerunds? I'll vote, but I think the list needs to be renamed. How about Titles with -ING Verbals?
Feeling guilty,
Reese


Themis-Athena (Lioness at Large) I'll second that -- have pity on the non-native speakers on this site! (We're having enough trouble finding our way around gerunds and other uses of -ing words as it is anyway!) I'm the last person not to empathize with a certain, err, desire to keep lists within a given set of boundaries, and I do take heart looking at all the apparent onions that already seem to have been planted by others (not that I'd have spotted them myself) ... but I do confess I am contributing to this list with my hand stuck firmly in my mouth and perfectly ready to see every single one of my contributions ruled a violation of the rules for not being a present participle but a gerund or some other example of those confounded -ing form that are, no doubt, the bane of high school students all over the world!


message 9: by Reese (new)

Reese T-A,

I'm certain that you will not be surprised when you see my response to your message: I love your comments.
Danke. Gracias. Merci.

Most students in public schools in the USA stopped learning how to identify different types of verbals twenty-five or more years ago. I've taught basic writing skills courses and freshman composition courses for enough years to know that college students who did not have a "grammar fruitcake" for a mother are baffled by the various roles of -ing forms of verbs. I seldom succeed in getting students to recognize dangling modifiers or to differentiate between an introductory verbal phrase (followed by a comma) and a gerund (or gerundive phrase) that is the subject of a sentence. Throw in the differences between English syntax and the grammar/terminology of other languages, and you face another set of challenges. And let's not forget that most titles are not complete sentences -- so we've got another snake in the can.

A verdict, Mr. T?

Feeling less guilty,
Reese



















message 10: by Thom (new)

Thom Dunn Rdbot (Reese) wrote: "T-A,

I'm certain that you will not be surprised when you see my response to your message: I love your comments.
Danke. Gracias. Merci.

Most students in public schools in the USA stopped lea..."


Those rowdy sixties hooligans through all that out along with diagramming sentences. I remember the arguments put forward at the time: English isn't Latin. It's irrelevant. Etc.

I know that a major creative writing school in Arkansas spends the first semester teaching the writing of clear sentences. Where have all the grammarians gone ? Sigh.



message 11: by Reese (new)

Reese They live in caves; and by the light of candles from colonial Williamsburg, they energetically diagram Faulkner's and Sarah Palin's sentences.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads I had to diagram sentences (from SILAS MARNER) in school in the 1980s. Mind you, it was a very traditional sort of school - we were also required to take two years of Latin and another two years of a modern foreign language.

I transferred schools in my senior year, and was the only student in my A.P. English class that had heard of the concept.

No idea if they teach it now. Probably not!


message 13: by Reese (new)

Reese Somewhere (not in a cave) there is a person who is teaching young people to diagram sentences. I say this because last semester, for the FIRST time in my
teaching life (which began a looooonnnnggg time ago), a student in a freshman comp. course asked me if we were going to diagram sentences. I almost passed out when she added that she loved diagramming sentences. I wish that I could report that her essays revealed the value of learning to diagram sentences. Oh well, one case doesn't prove or disprove any pedagogical theories.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads That is up there in shocking with something that happened to us at the grocery store last month.

Our bag boy asked us if we still had the big box of books in the trunk (and was very disappointed when we said no, we had taken them to Literacy). And then we found out he wanted to be an English professor!

My mother (an English professor) almost died of shock.


message 15: by Reese (new)

Reese If your mom hadn't been in a state of shock, would she have told him that bagging groceries is less painful than grading papers?


message 16: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (last edited Feb 13, 2010 02:46PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads Snort!

What really surprised her was that he said he wanted to go to Iowa.


message 17: by The rockabilly werewolf from Mars (last edited Nov 08, 2019 03:32PM) (new)

The rockabilly werewolf from Mars Surprised not to see more 80s horror on here. It feels like every other book from that era has a title that ends in "ing". I added a few, but there is still plenty more.


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