Nicolle
A list of the classics that we in this group feel should be read and enjoyed for years to come... Only recommend books that you have actually read
The books in our list is sorted into various categories and are listed here in alphabetical order. Inside each category, books are listed in alphabetical order from the last name of the author.
Nicolle
If you think any of these shouldn't be on our list or are in the wrong category please say. If a book fits in to more than one category it should be in the most predominant, or what the book is most known as.
I'm sure you meant the author to be Baroness Orczy for that one...I don't think that Hawthone's Scarlet Letter could be classed as adventure...apologies if this brought a similar shade to your cheeks!
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For the categories listed The Plague would probably best fit under historical. Psychological/philosophical might be a better category, but it might be too easy to throw all sorts of books under such a broad umbrella.
Nicolle
Thankyou Michael, have put it under Psychological/philosophical as I think that is more specific than 'historical' and I revel in specifics. :)
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Hi, Nicolle. In that case, maybe The Trial should be moved into the same category. I think a beginner might be disappointed if they think it's similar to Christie or Doyle since there's no crime and no mystery to solve in the traditional sense.
Jonathan Terrington
I still think the Trial is very much a crime novel though. But it isn't similar to Doyle or Christie. Psychological may be better though.
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I agree that it is in a sense, definitely. But a crime novel to me is about something overt, either the crime itself or the accusation of or defense against it. There are elements of that in The Trial, but when you categorize something it seems simplest to either do so according to the thing's general theme or to its most defining constituent part. I think in both cases The Trial is probably something other than crime (but I'm not sure). It's kind of interesting though.
Jonathan Terrington
That is true that The Trial is not a crime novel in the simple sense. But it has the same kind of feel - there being an unsolved mystery that the protagonist must find out about. It is not quite a purely psychological work and yet it is not quite a crime work...
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I think the mystery is K. and the dark absurdity of the world he occupies; K.'s early attempts to solve the more concrete question of the nature of his crime are abandoned for the most part and he instead concentrates on motivations, states, reality, etc. The unspoken crime, if there was one and if the real crime isn't K.'s environment, is more of a device for Kafka to hang his hat on and not the hat itself. So when I think of The Trial I don't think of crime or mystery; I think of K.'s psychological state and the philosophical questions, which I don't pretend to grasp more than fleetingly, Kafka raises. But like all of the greatest work it's too big and multifaceted to be confined to any one categorization, like trying to hold a greased pig, you think you've got it but then, sploop, squeal, off it goes.
Jonathan Terrington
And if you're going to throw in a comedy section maybe include a more modern classic in my opinion with My Family and Other Animals. But maybe that is too debatable...
Louise
Quite possibly. Absolutely wonderful book though. All nature-loving kids should read it.
If there's going to be a comedy section though I'd also recommend The Inimitable Jeeves by P.G. Wodehouse - or any Jeeves and Wooster books, that's just the first short story collection.
Jonathan Terrington
I definitely don't find Cormac McCarthy my type of classic. I'm currently reading Blood Meridian and I find his style rather gimmicky now after having read two other works of his.
Absalom, Absalom! -- Southern The Sound and the Fury -- Southern The Heart is a Lonely Hunter --Southern Flannery O'Connor : Collected Works : Wise Blood / A Good Man Is Hard to Find / The Violent Bear It Away / Everything that Rises Must Converge / Essays & Letters -- Southern Blood Meridian -- Western Suttree -- Southern Labyrinths -- Short Stories or Magical Realism Letters to a Young Poet -- Philosophy or Epistolary
Leo RobertsonJonathan wrote: "I definitely don't find Cormac McCarthy my type of classic. I'm currently reading Blood Meridian and I find his style rather gimmicky now after having read two other works of his."
Totally! Liquid misery has few redeeming qualities :P
Jonathan Terrington
Yet beauty is a highly subjective quality. If I ask someone what beauty is I doubt many people would truly agree on a shared ideal of beauty. And even if they did they would have different ideas of what makes something beautiful. We appear to possess a clearer idea of what beauty is not rather than what it is as a collective.
I still want to read Cormac McCarthy's work. I'm trying to understand why other readers seem to love it so much while I've only semi-appreciated it.
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Yes, Jonathan, I wasn't claiming a universal ideal of beauty, merely offering my opinion; though you would likely find general core assumptions and desires the world over (for beauty among other things--I base this on the fact that communication requires at least some shared views, no matter how obscure or precariously shared, and communication across place and time obviously occurs, and not merely by chance). As for beauty defined as what it isn't being easier than defining what it is, if beauty is utterly subjective both definitions/ideas/ideals/approximations/etc./etc. are impossible.
About McCarthy, I don't generally try to push work I like onto other people, or explain why I like it, principally because I"m too lazy, my pursuits are selfish, and I spend enough time listening to myself. I am, however, always interested in what other people think, so thank you for your posts; I enjoy them.
Jonathan Terrington
The idea of beauty has recently interested me because an artist friend of mine challenged me to think about what beauty is and is not. I found I had no clear idea of what beauty was but more what it was not. I of course understood it as your opinion, an opinion which I respect even if I cannot necessarily understand others opinions.
I try not to do the same. I find overhyping a work of fiction tends to have a negative effect on the readers. I try and merely indicate that I think a book is good and that I want to hear what others say about that book personally.
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It's always been an overriding interest of mine, although more for personal reasons than a desire to understand it in an academic sense (I can understand the motives for that too though). I don't want to make this thread difficult for people to use who want to suggest books, so I'll leave it at that and won't ramble on. Thanks for your interesting posts, Jonathan; I hope your passions for literature, beauty, and everything else great continue for a long time.
midnightfaerie
yeah, she has a lot..i'm making my way thru her too...but i'm surprised more ppl don't talk about her smaller works...they're just as good, if not better...persuasion, lady susan...the watsons...etc..i'm trying to get thru them all...there's an edition on kindle that has everything but i'm trying to find it in book form..so far...no luck...buying most of it individually...