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Catch-22

(Catch-22 #1)

Joseph Heller

3.98 · Rating details · 652,883 ratings · 15,753 reviews

The novel is set during World War II, from 1942 to 1944. It mainly follows the life of Captain John Yossarian, a U.S. Army Air Forces B-25 bombardier. Most of the events in the book occur while the fictional 256th Squadron is based on the island of Pianosa, in the Mediterranean Sea, west of Italy. The novel looks into the experiences of Yossarian and the other airmen in th ...more

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Published September 4th 2004 by Simon & Schuster (first published 1961)

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May 21, 2007 Chris marked it as unfinished · review of another edition

Shelves: folio-society-wishlist

I have attempted to read this book on two separate occasions and I couldn't get beyond 100 pages either time. I do believe that this has more to do with me than the book and I plan on making a third attempt at some point in the future.

Currently it sits on my bookshelf and sometimes (when I have a few too many beers) we have a talk.

Me: Hi.
Catch-22: Oh, hi.
Me: How are you feeling?
Catch-22: I've been better.
Me: Don't be upset. It's not you. It's me.
Catch-22: I know that.
Me: My friends tell me I'm ...more

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Jun 20, 2013 Jeffrey Keeten rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

”You mean there’s a catch?”

“Sure there’s a catch, “ Doc Daneeka replied. “Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn’t really crazy.”

There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one’s own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be ...more

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Aug 29, 2010 Stephen rated it it was amazing

Shelves: easton-press, humor-and-satire, audiobook, classics-americas, world-war-the-sequel, 1954-1969, literature, all-time-favorites, 6-star-books, love-those-words

A shiny new batch of awesome for my "all time favorite" shelf. It has been awhile since I’ve so throughly enjoyed reading a novel that has, at the same time, left me as intellectually awestruck as Joseph Heller’s classic sermon on the insanity of war.

What a sublime, literary feast. To prepare:

1. Start with a surrealistic, Kafkaesque worldview basted in chaos;

2. Knead in a plot reminiscent of Pynchon, taking particular care that the bizarre, placidly disjointed surface fully camouflages the pow ...more

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Sep 11, 2007 Lori rated it did not like it

Shelves: books-i-just-couldnt-finish, lost-lit

I suffered through about 60 pages, and finally put it down. I very rarely ever leave a book unfinished.

The author narrates and introduces us to Yossarian, who does not want to fly in the war. I get that. I get the whole catch 22 scenerio... You have to be insane to fly the plane. If you can get a dr to say you are insane, you wont have to fly. But in order to tell a dr that you are insane, this actually means you are sane. So you must continue to fly... which makes you insane. blah blah blah.

Wh ...more

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Dec 18, 2016 Michael Finocchiaro rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: novels, classics, american-20th-c

Hmm, where to start with a book like this one. A book that is a third Kafka, a third Vonnegut, a third Pynchon and completely insane? For the first 200 or 250 pages, it is like a broken record or a movie loop with Sisyphus rolling that boulder up a hill in American WWII battle fatigues (and a flight suit and a Mae West life preserver sans the inflation module thanks the M&M Enterprises). Then, when the flak starts flying and the blood is splattered everywhere it is intense right up until the Hmm, where to start with a book like this one. A book that is a third Kafka, a third Vonnegut, a third Pynchon and completely insane? For the first 200 or 250 pages, it is like a broken record or a movie loop with Sisyphus rolling that boulder up a hill in American WWII battle fatigues (and a flight suit and a Mae West life preserver sans the inflation module thanks the M&M Enterprises). Then, when the flak starts flying and the blood is splattered everywhere it is intense right up until the end.

It features Chaucerian cast of characters that would not be out of place in the German chaos of Gravity's Rainbow or The Tin Drum. A few examples:

Major Major Major Major: "He was a proud and independent man who was opposed to unemployment insurance and never hesitated to whine, whimper, wheedle, and extort for as much as he could get from whoever he could. He was a devout man whose pulpit was everywhere." But if you want a meeting with him, you'll have to wait until he has climbed out the window of his office and run down the gully.

Colonel Cathart: "a slick, successful, slipshod, unhappy man of thirty-six who lumbered while we walked and wanted to be a general...[he was] impervious to absolutes. He could measure his own progress only in relationship to others, and his idea of excellence was to do something at least as well as all the men his same age who were doing the same thing even better." Even if (or especially if) that meant raising the number of combat missions from 50 to 80 to impress General Peckham or General Dreedle or (gasp) General Scheisskopf (!!) whose wife was well, just a little promiscuous.

Then there is the Anabaptist chaplain who started to wonder about whether God exists and is tortured by his assistant, the sadistic Colonel Whitcomb and spends a lot of time wondering whether everything he sees is déjà vu, presque vu or jamais vu.

Also, the ill-fated young Nately and the equally ill-fated old man debating whether America was winning the war or whether Italy was since Italy has already survived more than two millennia more than the US even existed: "This sordid, vulturous, diabolical old man reminded [him] of his father because the two were nothing at all alike."

And then there is Yossarian, the protagonist. Perhaps the insane Captain (decorated for making a second bombing pass that killed Kraft) being the sanest person on the island of Pianosa despite being haunted by Snowden, the soldier in white, the dead man in his tent, persecuted and nearly killed by Nately's whore and all the death and absurdity around him. Yossarian is an everyman who is justifiably paranoid, but just a cog in the system and the only person that retains a sense of outrage at the senseless violence all around him.

This is the most anti-war book I believe I have ever read. It makes M*A*S*H look like a US Army recruiting poster in comparison. I was horrified by one-man syndicate M&M Enterprises of Milo Minderbender the cynic who deals with total impunity openly with both sides - even manning the anti-aircraft flak machines on the Italian coast shooting down US bombers and bombing his own squadron with loads of casualties. (This of course scarily parallels the Trump links with Putin and Russia and the massive amounts of money that Trump stands to make as POTUS.) Kid Simpson's slaughter was perhaps the most gruesome of them all, but the the scenes of terror and anarchy that Yossarian sees in Rome before being arrested for being there without a pass (leaving the murderous Aarfy smiling and careless as always) were chilling.

Do not come here seeking logic or sanity because in war, neither has any place - not in Catch-22 and I suppose in real life either. It reminded me of a cab driver I had once in New Orleans (true story) who was bragging to me about burying Iraquis in their trenches by rolling over them with tanks and bulldozers during the first Gulf War. When I mentioned that it was against the Geneva Convention to bury men alive, he shrugged in the rearview mirror and said "They told us that those rules didn't apply to us since this was just a conflict and not a war and besides, we were the US Army and not bound by some stupid European rules."

If, as I did, you struggle through the first 200 pages, the pace picks up - as does the violence - and you will find yourself cheering for Yossarian and racing to the end (if not, as Yossarian, to Sweden.)

I would give it 5 stars, but the first 200 pages are really torture to get through, so for lack of being able to give a 4.5, I rounded down to 4 stars. Regardless, I can clearly see, however, why this classic is held in such high esteem. May we never go through another war like this again. I can also see some of the inspiration for Alan Alda for creating M*A*S*H in the 70s and, reading Fire In the Lake about Vietnam, we learned absolutely nothing from the errors that Heller describes.

Reading the second Rick Atkinson book of The Liberation Trilogy about the Allied campaign in Italy. Every bit as brutal and chaotic as Heller portrayed it - particularly the brutal inch-by-inch campaign up from Salerno to Rome! Anzio was particularly horrendous. Curious fact: Roger Waters' father (the one he eulogizes in The Wall) died at Anzio.

Highly recommended as a piece of essential anti-war black humor. ...more

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Jun 06, 2008 Jennifer rated it liked it

The following is an example of how many conversations in this book took place.

Jen: I didn't like this book.
Nigel: Why didn't you like the book?
Jen: I did like the book.
Nigel: You just said you didn't like the book.
Jen: No I didn't.
Nigel: You're lying.
Jen: I don't believe in lying.
Nigel: So you never lie?
Jen: Oh yes, I lie all the time.
Nigel: You just said you don't believe in it.
Jen: I don't believe in it, Jen said as she ate a chocolate covered cotton ball.
Nigel: Well I liked the book.
Jen: Fabu ...more

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Jul 30, 2011 Barry Pierce rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: 20th-century, read-in-2015

I have had Catch-22 on my bookshelf for years. It was one of those novels that I've said, "oh I'll get around to that in 2012". It didn't happen. "Maybe 2013". Nope. And so on until just a couple of days ago. I've got to stop putting books off.

Rarely has a piece of literature ticked so many of my boxes. Satire, farce, gallows humour, irreverence, it's as if this book were written entirely for me. I loved every word on every page of this book. I cannot find a single miniscule fault anywhere with ...more

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Jun 25, 2014 Lisa rated it it was amazing

Shelves: 1001-books-to-read-before-you-die, favorites, havanas-en-masse, monster-mash-of-a-mess, so-good-it-hurts

"Insanity is contagious."

Like so many other works of originally absurd or dystopian character, this classic catches up with reality faster than I can process. When I first shared Yossarian's frustration over the perfect catch, I did so in a quite abstract way, enjoying the intellectual game the novel kept me engaged in.

Now I find myself frequently thinking of his pain as something I experience myself, every day, reading news and listening to the authorities that are in charge to rule the world. "Insanity is contagious."

Like so many other works of originally absurd or dystopian character, this classic catches up with reality faster than I can process. When I first shared Yossarian's frustration over the perfect catch, I did so in a quite abstract way, enjoying the intellectual game the novel kept me engaged in.

Now I find myself frequently thinking of his pain as something I experience myself, every day, reading news and listening to the authorities that are in charge to rule the world. If you want to succeed against the insanity of populist ruthlessness and to restore liberal values and democratic processes, you have to adopt the insane leaders' weapons, and turn yourself into a demagogue playing to the stupidity and insanity of the indoctrinated, thoughtless masses. But then, of course, you do not represent liberal values and democratic processes anymore, you turn into the monster you fight.

When Yossarian realised that he could only escape the threat to his life (the active participation in the war) if he was declared insane, and that expressing the wish to escape the threat to his life showed he was in fact sane, he knew he was in the clutches of insane authorities (which ironically therefore were safe from dying in the war for which they were responsible!). They were keeping their numbing power over him as long as he was sane enough to resist, and human enough to have a character:

"It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character."

As a novel showing the absurdity of war and of nationalism on an individual level, while keeping a (bittersweet) sense of humour, this labyrinth of a tale has no peer:

"The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them."

So here is my catch, let's call it the catch 42 - the catch that kicks in whenever we try to find the Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything. If all insane leaders of the world read this book, they would understand the meaninglessness of their destructive power play, and they would change their ways and the world would finally be a safe place. The catch is that they have to be sane to read it.

So, read it if you are sane enough to understand it. It will drive you crazy though. ...more

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Jul 30, 2007 Steve rated it really liked it

I’m not sure if it’s a talent or an affliction, but I’ve been blessed or cursed with a penchant for taking someone else’s creative work and extrapolating it to skewed extremes. That explains my yet-to-be-published collection of fan fiction, unauthorized sequels, and twists in perspective. I first discovered this talent/affliction as a boy when I imagined a fourth little pig who leveraged himself to the hilt, built a luxury skyscraper, and, with YUGE block letters at its base, labelled it Pig Tow I’m not sure if it’s a talent or an affliction, but I’ve been blessed or cursed with a penchant for taking someone else’s creative work and extrapolating it to skewed extremes. That explains my yet-to-be-published collection of fan fiction, unauthorized sequels, and twists in perspective. I first discovered this talent/affliction as a boy when I imagined a fourth little pig who leveraged himself to the hilt, built a luxury skyscraper, and, with YUGE block letters at its base, labelled it Pig Tower. The Big Bad Wolf, as a professional courtesy (and quite possibly with the promise of kickbacks), agreed to a huff and puff waiver.

As a teen I wrote a follow-up to Kurt Vonnegut’s classic that I called Slaughterhouse-Six. It was set in a mirror image world where war was devastating the planet Tralfamadore. Fortunately, the protagonist, Libby Mirglip, survived the bombs and lived a varied if not full life after the conflict. She was aided by alien visitors from planet Earth who showed her, through their own less enlightened example, what not to do.

I’d prefer not to go into the details of one my more recent works, Fifty-two Shades of Grey. If it’s ever published, it’ll be under an assumed name, or maybe names – I’m toying with the idea of S. and M. John. BTW, I saw that some other joker stole my basic idea and technically beat me to the preferred number fifty-one.

This brings us to my latest, Catch-23. Since I’ve already done an absurdist post-war account of tragedy/comedy with Slaughterhouse-Six, I wanted to steer clear of such a heavy/humorous theme this time. Instead, Catch-23 is the story of a local seafood restaurant on 23 S. Washington St. in Naperton, Illinois. They became famous for their Shrimp Yossarian. Then a new executive chef upped the number of times customers would fly through the doors by offering Skate Wing Schnitzel a la Scheisskopf, Major Major Mahi Mahi, and Stuffed Oysters Orr-style. Naperton’s whore gave the story some much needed spice. (As with any fan fiction, references will only be appreciated by those who know the original.)

Oh, and hey, there is a catch here. Against your better judgment, you continued reading each ridiculous example in this exercise of “one more." Making it this far means you’ve read “one more” paragraph all the way to the end. The catch is that you must be crazy enough to perceive this as a payoff. ...more

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Jan 08, 2013 Matthew rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: classic, historical-fiction, own, 2018, completist-book-club, audio, read-more-than-once, favorites

I originally read this about 15 years ago. When I joined Goodreads and added the books I had previously read I remembered it as a 3 star book. I am not sure if it is being 15 years older or the fact that I did the audiobook this time, but it was easily 5 stars now!

The first thing that came to mind after I was a few chapters into this was the show “Seinfeld”. Always touted as a show about nothing, this book was kind of about nothing. It is series of smaller anecdotes, usually somewhat silly, that I originally read this about 15 years ago. When I joined Goodreads and added the books I had previously read I remembered it as a 3 star book. I am not sure if it is being 15 years older or the fact that I did the audiobook this time, but it was easily 5 stars now!

The first thing that came to mind after I was a few chapters into this was the show “Seinfeld”. Always touted as a show about nothing, this book was kind of about nothing. It is series of smaller anecdotes, usually somewhat silly, that really don’t have a specific function in moving the plot. It is a satire about war, red tape, chain of command, etc. and the inherent futility involved. While war and the tragedy that goes with it are usually not considered amusing, this feels like a therapeutic, tongue-in-cheek poke that needed to be made to maintain sanity.

There are a plethora of characters – some of which are more caricatures – that may get your head spinning at first. Luckily, Heller gives them all memorable names which helps keep them organized easily. Maybe that was not his intention, but when you need to remember if it was Milo Minderbender or Major Major Major Major (yes, that is his name – my spell check did not like me repeating a word four times!) who did something, the reader is definitely given naming tools to keep them connected!

I mentioned that there is not necessarily an overall story, but there are definitely themes. One is doing what is best for you no matter who gets stepped on in the process. Another is twisting the facts to make sure the ultimate outcome is what works best for you. And, of course, the BIG idea that has become a common colloquialism (I know I use it just about every day) is the situation of Catch-22. Early in the book, the first example of Catch-22 is that if you say you want to fly bombing missions, you must be crazy so they will take you off the missions – only someone crazy would want to fly missions. But, if you are not on the missions, your sanity is no longer in question so they will make you fly them. If you say you don’t want to fly them, you are sane so you will have to fly them. Basically, no matter how you feel about flying missions, you will end up flying them anyway! Situations like this are repeated throughout the book where there is no good answer to the situation at hand – often with hilarious and frustrating results.

Now, I mention that the book is humorous satire, but it does have many dark moments as well. This kind of goes back to my mention of the discourse within the novel being therapeutic. War is crazy and what can happen is brutal. Oddly enough, a Jimmy Buffett quote from Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes comes to mind: “If we weren't all crazy we would go insane.” That pretty much sums up the book in a nutshell!

So, should you read this book? Well, I think that question is a Catch-22 in itself. I think about 50% of the people who try this will hate it or dnf it. I think the other 50% of the people who read it will love it, quote it, put it on their favorites list. Where the Catch-22 is that I think any person has the capability to be in either category depending on where their mindset is right now. If I recommend it to you now you may hate me, or you may thank me profusely. In 10 years is would be visa versa! I do think the audiobook helped me appreciate it more and it is now in my favorites. Will that happen for you? I definitely cannot be the one to decide that!
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Jun 01, 2013 Ahmad Sharabiani rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: 20th-century, war, classic, fiction, literature, novel, american, historical

Catch-22, Joseph Heller
Catch-22 is a satirical novel by American author Joseph Heller. He began writing it in 1953; the novel was first published in 1961. Often cited as one of the most significant novels of the twentieth century, it uses a distinctive non-chronological third-person omniscient narration, describing events from the points of view of different characters. The separate storylines are out of sequence so the timeline develops along with the plot.
عنوانها: کلک مرغابی؛ تبصره 22؛ نویسنده Catch-22, Joseph Heller
Catch-22 is a satirical novel by American author Joseph Heller. He began writing it in 1953; the novel was first published in 1961. Often cited as one of the most significant novels of the twentieth century, it uses a distinctive non-chronological third-person omniscient narration, describing events from the points of view of different characters. The separate storylines are out of sequence so the timeline develops along with the plot.
عنوانها: کلک مرغابی؛ تبصره 22؛ نویسنده: جوزف هلر؛ تاریخ نخستین خوانش: روز سیزدهم ماه آگوست سال 2001 میلادی
عنوان: کلک مرغابی؛ نویسنده: جوزف هلر؛ مترجم: کامبیز پاک فر؛ تهران، مرجان، 1378؛ دو جلد در یک مجلد؛ در 806 ص؛ شابک: 9649049304؛ موضوع: جنگ جهانی دوم قرن 20 م
عنوان: تبصره 22؛ نویسنده: جوزف هلر؛ مترجم: حسن افشار؛ تهران، ماهی، 1393؛ در 552 ص؛ شابک: 9789642092000؛
عنوان: تبصره 22؛ نویسنده: جوزف هلر؛ مترجم: احسان نوروزی؛ تهران، چشمه، 1394؛ در 518 ص؛ شابک: 9786002295613؛
اونا می‌خوان منو بکشن.؛
هیچ‌کس نمی‌خواد تو رو بکشه.؛
پس چرا به طرفم تیراندازی می‌کنن؟
اونا می‌خوان همه رو بکشن.؛
خب چه فرقی می‌کنه؟
پیدا کردن تکه ای که بتواند گوشه‌ ای از منطق رمان «تبصره 22» باشد، کار ناممکن یا دشواری ست، شاید گفتگوی بالا نزدیک‌ترین بخش داستان به این انتظار باشد. یوسارین، افسر نیروی هوایی آمریکا، تصمیم گرفته، دیگر جانش را به خطر نیندازد، و پرواز نکند، چون احساس می‌کند ضدهوایی‌های دشمن قصد دارند او را بکشند. اما همکارش اینگونه نمی‌اندیشد، چون باور دارد سربازان دشمن قصد دارند همه را بکشند. این درست همان‌جایی است که کشمکش اصلی داستان «تبصره 22» شکل می‌گیرد. یوسارین دیگر به جنگ به چشم یک رخداد اجتماعی نگاه نمی‌کند، بلکه جنگ برای او مسئله‌ ای کاملا فردی است.؛ طبعا اگر همه آدم‌های متخاصم در دو طرف یک جنگ، می‌توانستند مثل یوسارین جنگ را فردی ببینند، هیچ جنگی آن‌قدرها پا نمی‌گرفت؛ و به کشتار نمیانجامید. ذات جنگ اساسا بر ایده ی گذشتن از فرد، و قرار گرفتن در خدمت یک اجتماع، یا یک ایده و باور، استوار است. ترفند اصلی جوزف هلر، نگارنده، برای زیر پرسش بردن برهان جنگ، همان بازگشت به فردیت کسانی است، که قرار است سربازان جنگ باشند. مسئله باورهای فردی، در برابر اجتماع جنگ‌جو، نقطه مرکزی رمان هلر است، که در همه جای رمان جاری شده، و به فرم آن نیز نشت کرده است. فرمی که منتقدان بسیاری آن نگارش را نپسندیده اند. اما این نیز هست که رمان «تبصره‌‌ ی 22» اثر جوزف هلر را، به همراه «برهنه‌ ها و مرده‌ ها» اثر: نورمن میلر، و «سلاخ‌خانه‌ ی شماره پنج» اثر: کورت ونه‌ گات؛ یکی از سه اثر ادبیات ضدجنگ آمریکا نوشته اند. نویسندگان هر سه رمان، به نوعی در رخدادهای جنگ جهانگیر دوم شرکت داشته‌ و جنگ را از نزدیک تجربه کرده‌ اند. جوزف هِلـِر که فرزند خانواده‌ ای مهاجر، از یهودیان روس‌ تبار بود، در سال 1942 میلادی در سن نوزده سالگی به ارتش آمریکا پیوست، و در سال‌های پایانی جنگ، به عنوان بمب‌ انداز هواپیماهای بی‌.52 در شصت ماموریت جنگی شرکت کرد (در هواپیماهای آن دوره: خلبانی، ناوبری و مسیریابی، و هدف‌یابی برای انداختن بمب؛ هر یک مسئول جداگانه‌ داشت)؛ ا. شربیانی ...more

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Feb 06, 2011 Jason rated it really liked it

Shelves: for-kindle, 2012, reviewed

Catch-22 reminds me a lot of those comedy/tragedy masks—you know the ones that are supposed to represent like, fine theater or something? Not that I’m comparing Catch-22 to some great Italian opera. All I’m saying is that the book oscillates cleverly between the absurdly humorous and the grievingly tragic.

So it starts off on the hilarious side. Here’s a bit that had me giggling aloud (rather embarrassingly, I might add, as I was surrounded by other people at the time):

The colonel dwelt in a vor

The colonel dwelt in a vortex of specialists who were still specializing in trying to determine what was troubling him. They hurled lights in his eyes to see if he could see, rammed needles into nerves to hear if he could feel.

Ha! That one still gets me. Unfortunately, the laugh-out-loudness has caused some people to think I’m crazy, but I suppose that’s the price one must pay for decent literature.

And then, like great Italian opera (really, I hadn’t meant to expound the parallel this far, but look—its happening!), you start itching for the intermission because your legs are falling asleep and you really need to take a leak. This is the point at which the humor starts to wear thin and seemingly unrelated events are haphazardly thrown around and you’re wondering if it’s going anywhere or if it’s just one absurd situation after another.

But finally, you settle in for Act III and discover that the seemingly unrelated events are actually part of an ingenious narrative structure that Heller has planned out from the beginning. Jokes that were set up earlier finally deliver their punch lines. Only it turns out the jokes aren’t funny anymore. In many ways, Heller’s writing is like that of Kurt Vonnegut, with similar subject matter wrapped up in threads of absurdity. But while Vonnegut speaks of the horrors of war, Heller’s issues are more with the horrors of the War Department: it is the red tape of bureaucracy that gets his goat. Well, and war, too, but mostly it’s the bureaucracy.

Anyway, this book is smart and well written. It would be difficult for me to come up with the name of another author who could write such perfectly contradictory sentences while still making so much sense.

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Jun 20, 2007 Elizabeth Kadetsky rated it it was amazing

This book was utterly misrepresented to me before I read it. For some reason I'd always thought it had been published the same year as Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow and was considered as representing the other fork of post World War II American literature apart from Pynchon's--this the conventional, plot-driven one catering to stupid people. Some professor or some didact must have told me that, enrroenously as it turns out, once. Catch 22 predates the Pynchon masterpeice by 15 years, and is in sty This book was utterly misrepresented to me before I read it. For some reason I'd always thought it had been published the same year as Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow and was considered as representing the other fork of post World War II American literature apart from Pynchon's--this the conventional, plot-driven one catering to stupid people. Some professor or some didact must have told me that, enrroenously as it turns out, once. Catch 22 predates the Pynchon masterpeice by 15 years, and is in style an apt precursor. Its subject is war and its hilarity. In this it shares much with Pynchon as well as Vonnegut. Since James Heller is not as obviously over-bursting with brilliance and random facts about particle physics as Pynchon, nor is he as willing to pander to mainstream tastes (I think) as Vonnegut, Catch 22 is a tought read at the begiining. There is a lot of irony and detachment, but with not as much ease as Vonnegut and with less of the awe inspired by Pynchon. IN fact, I almost gave up, and had started this book (450 pages) several times before and actually had given up. The real story of Catch 22 doesn't start coming together well past page 200, but when it does, it really does. There is a brilliant portrait of an entrepreneurial mess chef who is the representation of evil, evil being capitalism and the lack of loyalty to any moral cause. He creates a vast international smuggling network whose intricacies are at once ridicuously amusing and yet, it seems, accurately and minutely portrayed--it's as if Heller were a partcile physicist translating science for us when he lays out how that "syndicate" works. Most importantly, the book affected me because of what it had to say about war, and then how it was able to communicate that through the heartbreaking travails of one officer--Yossarian--who is willing to act out human desires in the face of a dominant culture turned insanse and subhuman, caricatured. His wartime airforce base is a perfect illustration of RD Laing's common-sense supposition, developed not long after the period of this novel, that insanity is a sane response to an insane world. Catch 22 is clever and tight and thematic--"Catch 22" refers to how things that seem irrational can be made to seem rational through tautology. This is a cleverly embroidered theme throught the entire novel. But in the end these are not what make the book great. It's the emotion at the heart of the book, Yossarian's desire to live and be fleshly human, and his unwillingness to retreat into the bastions of irony and obtuseness so attractive to eberyone around him. This is what makes Catch 22 heartbreaking and poignant, tear0jerkin even. ...more

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Aug 20, 2011 Shayantani Das rated it it was amazing

ooof exhausting story !! I will get back to it later(in 2050 perhaps).

Finally finished on 4 February 2012(not 2050 :p)

I did it! I finished it! I finished the book. And I am alive!!!

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This book is pure unadulterated madness. There is a harem of characters and all of them are crazy. And not just silly crazy; more like annoying crazy! Milo, Aarfy, Whitcomb, these characters will make you want to either shoot them, or shoot yourself. The missions are crazy, Doc Danneka is crazy. The plot i ...more

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Sep 29, 2011 Nandakishore Varma rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: classic, humour

Years ago, while I was (unsuccessfully) searching for a job in the Middle East, I met a career consultant.

"How do I land a job in the Middle East?" I asked.

"Well, for that you need experience," he told me, scratching his chin.

"But I have eighteen years of experience!" I protested.

"That may be so," he said. "What I meant was - you need Gulf experience."

"But I can't get that unless I get a job in the Gulf," I pointed out.

"Yes, I know." He said serenely. "You see, that's the catch..."

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Aug 12, 2007 Teresa Jusino rated it it was amazing

Shelves: readandreviewed

"I really do admire you a bit. You're an intelligent person of great moral character who has taken a very courageous stand. I'm an intelligent person with no moral character at all, so I'm in an ideal position to appreciate it." - Colonel Korn, Catch-22

I really appreciate it when a book respects the intelligence of its readership. If a book is going to be "experimental" in any way, I love those that throw you into a world with no explanations - a literary baptism of fire (ie: Orwell's "Animal Fa "I really do admire you a bit. You're an intelligent person of great moral character who has taken a very courageous stand. I'm an intelligent person with no moral character at all, so I'm in an ideal position to appreciate it." - Colonel Korn, Catch-22

I really appreciate it when a book respects the intelligence of its readership. If a book is going to be "experimental" in any way, I love those that throw you into a world with no explanations - a literary baptism of fire (ie: Orwell's "Animal Farm"). Catch-22 is one of those books, and that's part of the reason why I thought it was so amazing!

Catch-22 tells the story of a US Army squadron based in Italy during WWII, and a disenchanted pilot named Yossarian who thinks everyone is trying to kill him. (not an unreasonable assumption in a war) Except that it's not an Italy, a military story, or a world that we're meant to immediately recognize. There is a logic in the book that all the characters seem to accept, but that doesn't make sense to the reader. Or, alternately, it makes too much sense to the reader, and that's when the book hits you hard. You start falling into it. You start siding with people. Then all of a sudden, you realize that you're siding with the wrong people. You start thinking to yourself how could I be agreeing with this asshole?! How can I be laughing! My favorite books are the ones that elicit visceral reactions from me...my chest gets tight, my stomach gets tied in knots, and I can't explain why I'm reacting positively/negatively - I just know that I am. There were so many of those moments in this book, I can't even begin to describe them all...

One of the things that impressed me most was the structure of the book - how all at once it seemed both haphazard, and entirely calculated. How each segment could stand alone, but that together they weaved an intricate, thought-provoking story...
If you like historical novels, if you like political novels, if you like in-depth characters, if you like humor, if you like to think - I would highly recommend this book to you.
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Feb 22, 2019 Adina marked it as abandoned

Shelves: classics, 1001, w-mwl-alternative, us

From cleaning my TBR project. Not my type of humour, I guess. Tried to read it a few times and I think is time to let go of this classic. It is too long to battle through it.

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Aug 06, 2013 Brian Yahn rated it really liked it

Hands down, this is the funniest book I've ever read. Some of Heller's sentences are so witty and hilarious that I had to not only laugh out loud, but set the book down after trying to continue on--and laugh out loud some more to fully appreciate all the wit. That being said, the style of humor gets old. After a while, it feels like reading Seinfeld screenplays for hours on end.

The crazy ironic predicaments Yosarian, the focal character, finds himself in are pure genius. And some of the subplots ...more

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Feb 24, 2008 jill rated it it was ok

Recommends it for: people who like to be bored.

Absurdist plays are one act for a reason.

Seriously, I know there were points to make about the repetitive ridiculousness of bureaucracy/war/capitalism/life, but over 450 pages of variations on the Catch-22 joke?

I did find myself more affected than I would have guessed by some of the deaths, and some of the lines were clearly awesome.

Underlined bits:
In a world in which success was the only virtue, he had resigned himself to failure.(277, about the Chaplain)
Because he needed a friend so desperat ...more

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Nov 28, 2012 Orsodimondo rated it really liked it

Shelves: americana

E YOSSARIAN PRESE IL FUCILE NEL MATTATOIO N° 6
Romanzo manifesto dell’antimilitarismo, col tempo è diventato l’emblema dell’assurdità e della demenza militare, e il suo titolo, che oltre al comma intende una trappola, un tranello, è diventato uno slogan.
Eccolo qui il famoso comma 22: solo chi è pazzo può chiedere di essere esentato dalle missioni di volo, ma chi chiede di essere esentato dalle missioni di volo non è pazzo.
Che magnifico paradosso! L’affermazione di un principio e l’immediata neg ...more

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Jan 15, 2010 Tyler Jones rated it it was amazing

Shelves: books-that-changed-my-life, war-fiction

A word of warning - the following has more to do with my life than it has to do with the novel Catch-22. If you don't give a fig about me then just skip this.

As I mentioned in my note about War with the Newts, 1985 was the worst year of my life. I was a deeply depressed eighteen year old. My parents tried their best to help me. For my mom this meant finding me the best counselling possible, and for my dad this meant showing me that the world itself was crazy and I was quite right to feel alienat ...more

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Dec 14, 2018 Bradley rated it it was amazing

Shelves: 2018-shelf, fanboy-goes-squee, humor, satire, top-one-hundred

Is it tragic, absurd, or funny?

WHO CARES!

This beats out almost every book that purports to be funny and I'm not particularly unfamiliar with funny books.

Catch-22 grabs you by the skinny hairs and shocks you into the most wonderful and horrible bureaucratic nightmare ever devised. It's not even the clarity that strikes you. It's not the convoluted insanity of a huge cast of truly unforgettable and brilliant characters as they stumble from one mismatched contradiction after another or as they gam ...more

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Aug 13, 2018 Zaphirenia rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: brace2018, favorite-books

Παίρνεις ένα βιβλίο που έχεις ακούσει από κάπου κάπως κάποτε ότι είναι πολύ καλό, ότι είναι αντιπολεμικό, ότι μεγάλη μερίδα των αναγνωστών το θεωρεί αριστούργημα, αλλά δεν έχεις προετοιμαστεί για αυτή τη βόμβα πνευματωδους χιούμορ, ωμής σάτιρας, ιδιοφυούς απεικόνισης της τρέλας, του παραλογισμού, της φρίκης. Το αρχίζεις σιγά σιγά και σκας ένα χαμόγελο εδώ, ένα νευρικό γέλιο εκεί, γιατί έχει χιούμορ, δεν μπορείς να το αρνηθείς, σε κάνει να γελάς, αλλά ξέρεις ότι κάτι δεν πάει καλά γιατί ταυτόχρον Παίρνεις ένα βιβλίο που έχεις ακούσει από κάπου κάπως κάποτε ότι είναι πολύ καλό, ότι είναι αντιπολεμικό, ότι μεγάλη μερίδα των αναγνωστών το θεωρεί αριστούργημα, αλλά δεν έχεις προετοιμαστεί για αυτή τη βόμβα πνευματωδους χιούμορ, ωμής σάτιρας, ιδιοφυούς απεικόνισης της τρέλας, του παραλογισμού, της φρίκης. Το αρχίζεις σιγά σιγά και σκας ένα χαμόγελο εδώ, ένα νευρικό γέλιο εκεί, γιατί έχει χιούμορ, δεν μπορείς να το αρνηθείς, σε κάνει να γελάς, αλλά ξέρεις ότι κάτι δεν πάει καλά γιατί ταυτόχρονα θέλεις και να κλάψεις. Ένας κόμπος ανεβαίνει στο λαιμό όσο προχωράς παρακάτω και σφίγγει όλο και περισσότερο και συνεχίζεις να γελάς αλλά ταυτόχρονα θέλεις όλο και περισσότερο να γείρεις κάπου για να κλάψεις με λυγμούς γιατί ναι, είναι σουρεαλιστικό, είναι παράλογο, είναι αστείο, αλλά είναι και τόσο αληθινό.

Η ιστορία είναι κάπως χαλαρή. Σε μια σμηναρχία της αμερικανικής αεροπορίας στο νησί Πιενόζα της Ιταλίας το 1944, παρακολουθούμε την ιστορία των Αμερικανών στρατιωτών και κυρίως του Γιοσάριαν, του βομβαρδιστή που είναι πεπεισμένος ότι όλοι προσπαθούν να τον δολοφονήσουν και εκείνος παλεύει να σώσει τη ζωή του. Γύρω του φιλόδοξοι αξιωματικοί ρισκάρουν άσκοπα τη ζωή των κατωτέρων τους, η μαύρη αγορά ανθεί, ο παραλογισμός της στρατιωτικής λογικής και του πολέμου επικρατεί, ο ιδεαλισμός κάποιων λίγων συντρίβεται βάναυσα.

Ο Heller περιγράφει τις ζωές και το θάνατο κάποιων από τα μέλη του σμήνους, τους φόβους και τις ανησυχίες τους, τις σκέψεις και τα συναισθήματά τους με βάση τη δική του εμπειρία από το δεύτερο παγκόσμιο πόλεμο και με τρόπο τόσο άμεσο και γλαφυρό που ο αναγνώστης σίγουρα βλέπει στον καθρέφτη κάποιες από τις δικές του σκέψεις (κι αν ακόμα δεν έχει δει ποτέ του πόλεμο). Καταφέρνει να αποδίδει με κωμικό τρόπο αλλά και σεβασμό τις πιο τραγικές σκηνές και να ξεγυμνώνει με αυτόν τον τρόπο το συναίσθημα του αναγνώστη χωρίς να το εκβιάζει.

Είναι ένα αριστούργημα το catch-22, οπωσδήποτε. Σατιρικό, εξοργιστικο, ευαίσθητο, αστείο, τραγικό. Έχει τα πάντα και ταυτόχρονα είναι τόσο δεμένο και τόσο συνεκτικό που δε βαριέσαι ούτε δευτερόλεπτο. Εχθές διάβασα 300 σελίδες (το μισό) και εύχομαι να είχα αφήσει λίγο ακόμα για σήμερα. Θα το ξαναδιαβάσω όμως, σίγουρα. Είναι από τα λίγο βιβλία που το λέω αυτό με βεβαιότητα και θα το ξαναδιαβάσω.

PS: Είμαι σίγουρη ότι αυτό το βιβλίο το είχε διαβάσει ο σεναριογράφος της 4ης σεζόν του Blackadder. ...more

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May 11, 2017 Duane rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: 2017-book-challenge, 5-star-books, american-classics, audio-books, guardian-1000, rated-books, reviewed-books

Catch 22- If you are crazy, insane, then you are grounded from flying anymore combat missions. However, if you apply for this status, then you are deemed to be too rational to be insane, so you are denied the request. That's the gist of the idea, and it is so applicable to so many situations in life that the term has been added into our everyday language.

Catch 22 is a satire, but not just any satire; it is the mother of all satires. And it doesn't just poke at the US military, it pokes at every ...more

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Aug 13, 2007 Juliet rated it did not like it

Recommends it for: high schoolers

Shelves: recently-read

Maybe there's a reason this book is usually required high school reading; it reads like it was written by a 17-year old. Someone who clearly finds himself to be hilarious, and no one ever had the heart to tell him differently.

I never felt for any of the characters, I never laughed, I never cried. In fact, half way through the book I couldn't take it anymore, so I skipped ahead to the last chapter and yet it still made sense. I'm sorry, but if nothing happens in the second half of a book to impac ...more

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Mar 26, 2013 Наталия Янева rated it really liked it · review of another edition

„Параграф 22“ е ужасяваща амалгама, люшкаща се между трагичното и смешното, с една-единствена глава, която описва изцяло откровено отблъскващата и неподправена картина на резултатите от безумието, назовано „война“. В останалата си част книгата представлява съшита от различни гледни точки история, на моменти нестройно лъкатушеща между минало и настояще, без особено отличима граница, в която по-скоро иронично са описани стремежите, копнежите, опитите за оцеляване, прекарването на свободното време, „Параграф 22“ е ужасяваща амалгама, люшкаща се между трагичното и смешното, с една-единствена глава, която описва изцяло откровено отблъскващата и неподправена картина на резултатите от безумието, назовано „война“. В останалата си част книгата представлява съшита от различни гледни точки история, на моменти нестройно лъкатушеща между минало и настояще, без особено отличима граница, в която по-скоро иронично са описани стремежите, копнежите, опитите за оцеляване, прекарването на свободното време, изпълнено с тежко очакване (ненапразно не споменавам думата „надежда“) на персонажите. На фона на военните действия се вихри студенокръвен кариеризъм, безумно мащабна бюрокрация и изтръпваща алчност. Разбира се, те са добронамерено прикрити от хората, които ги упражняват, под евфемистични епитети като „възход за родината“, „чест“ и „дял за всички“.

Докато някой се качва на самолета, за да извърши последния си боен полет и да стане на хрускави розови останки във въздуха, друг долу размишлява истински напрегнато на кого от двамата мразещи се членове на висшия команден състав да се хареса повече. Човешките животи са не повече от клишираните съболезнователни писма, които следва да се изпратят на опечалените близки, а броят на задължителните извършени полети трябва непрекъснато да се увеличава – не за победата на родината във войната, разбира се – просто за да се спечели преднина пред генерала на съседната авиочаст, предвидил по-малък брой полети за своята група. А, да – и е добре когато самолетите пускат бомбите над целта, да ги пускат по-близо една до друга – разбирате ли, така стават хубави въздушни снимки, които могат да бъдат поместени в Saturday Evening Post. Така и не се разбрах със себе си кой беше по-голям гад – Каткарт, който пращаше хората на безсмислена смърт за собствен кеф или Майлоу, който в крайна сметка заряза спасяването на едно малко момиче заради контрабанден тютюн.

Това е книга за лудостта – за лудостта на лудите, за в пъти по-дълбоката лудост на нормалните. В романа на Джоузеф Хелър Смъртта е неописан персонаж, който си няма собствена глава, но е винаги с всички, седи на земята и си тананика нелепа песничка, чакайки да ѝ дойде времето. И те го чувстват. Книга за това какво правиш, когато си изправен пред неизбежното. Някои се влюбват и намират в това смисъла – и умират. На някои не им пука – и също умират. Други се побъркват от страх и са готови на всичко от отчаяние – и в крайна сметка пак умират. А има и такива, които успяха да доплуват до Швеция и да оживеят – странно, но подобни неща също се случват...

В края за по-несхватливите читатели Хелър съвсем откровено си е казал за какво е идело реч през цялото време. За момент нещата стават по-истински, по-малко сюрреалистични и вече не ти се струва, че си попаднал в някакъв „просто шеметен фарс“ от безумни думи и действия. Войната е гнусна и оголена до окървавен, наръфан кокал, и хвърлена в лицето ти. И ти се ще, точно сега, поне за момент да вярваш, че ще има възмездие. Дори думите „Не можеш да отнемеш живота на едно човешко същество и да ти се размине безнаказано, дори когато това същество е бедна слугиня “ го вещаят. Защото те не са валидни само за конкретния случай, а ти се иска да смяташ, че всички ония, които са отнели надеждите и бъдещето на подчинените си, също ще си получат заслуженото. Но „имаше само една засечка... и това беше параграф 22“.
Е, някаква надежда накрая все пак има. Иначе не би имало смисъл. ...more

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Dec 13, 2015 Carol rated it liked it

Shelves: classics, war, library-ebook, read-2015

I realize that CATCH 22 is said to be one of the greatest literary works of the twentieth century, but it was just not my cup of tea. I found it confusing at first and when I did sort out the storyline, had to force myself to stay with the repetition of it all. (Still worth 3 Stars though for its uniqueness.)

If you want to read a dark satire about the atrocities of war where a U.S. Army bombardier fights to retain his sanity in a world of contradictions, this 1961 classic is for you.

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Dec 12, 2013 Fuchsia Groan rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: contemporánea, favoritos

Fue un flechazo.
En cuanto Yossarian vio al capellán se enamoró perdidamente de él.
Yossarian estaba en el hospital porque le dolía el hígado, aunque no tenía ictericia. A los médicos les desconcertaba el hecho de que no manifestara los síntomas propios de la enfermedad. Si la dolencia acababa en ictericia, podrían ponerle un tratamiento. Si no acababa en ictericia y se le pasaba, le darían de alta, pero aquella situación les tenía perplejos.

Unas pocas líneas y también yo pude decirlo: Fue un flec Fue un flechazo.
En cuanto Yossarian vio al capellán se enamoró perdidamente de él.
Yossarian estaba en el hospital porque le dolía el hígado, aunque no tenía ictericia. A los médicos les desconcertaba el hecho de que no manifestara los síntomas propios de la enfermedad. Si la dolencia acababa en ictericia, podrían ponerle un tratamiento. Si no acababa en ictericia y se le pasaba, le darían de alta, pero aquella situación les tenía perplejos.

Unas pocas líneas y también yo pude decirlo: Fue un flechazo. No con el capellán, sí con Yossarian y con la novela en general, amor a primera línea. Pero este enamoramiento repentino no quita que, como los médicos, pasase también por algunos momentos de perplejidad.

Y por eso mismo, es una novela difícil de recomendar. La perplejidad, el enamoramiento y el humor absurdo no entusiasman a todo el mundo. Mucho menos si van los tres de la mano, pero el que tenga la suerte de enamorarse pasará una temporada maravillosa.

Trampa 22 es una de las novelas más influyentes del s. XX. Publicada en 1961, Joseph Heller comenzó a escribirla en 1953, basándose en parte en sus experiencias a bordo de un bombardero durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial.

Cuenta la historia de los integrantes de un escuadrón de bombarderos estadounidense en Pianosa, durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial. Los personajes (un montón, al principio puede parecer difícil seguir el hilo), excéntricos y surrealistas, son de los que no se olvidan. Especialmente Yossarian, el protagonista, un capitán de escuadrilla al que habían degradado porque ya no le importaba errar o no. Había tomado la decisión de vivir para siempre o morir en el intento, y cada vez que subía al avión su única misión era bajar vivo. Un héroe.

Por mucho que casi cada párrafo esté cargado de humor absurdo, el libro no lo es. Hay veces que desde el humor se critica todo mejor, y es mucho más llevadero, más fácil de explicar. Así, carga contra la guerra, contra el comportamiento de los altos mandos y su causa, de la otra causa, que muchos no entendían (¿Quién es España? ¿Qué es Hitler?), y del sinsentido de todo ello.
Eso se ve perfectamente en la propia Trampa 22, según la cual todo el que estuviera loco, sería dado de baja del servicio y enviado a casa, pero cualquiera que quiera abandonar el servicio no está realmente loco. Sólo había una trampa, y era la 22, que establecía que preocuparse por la propia seguridad ante peligros reales e inmediatos era un proceso propio de mentes racionales. Orr estaba loco y podían retirarlo del servicio, lo único que tenía que hacer era solicitarlo. Y en cuanto lo hiciera, ya no estaría loco y tendría que cumplir más misiones. ...more

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Jun 27, 2010 Leo rated it it was amazing

Shelves: 2011, to-re-read

Never have I been pulled through the entire spectrum of emotion quite as enjoyably as this, with Heller ingeniously switching tones on a dime with a magician's charm. One moment I was laughing like a fool, and the next I was clenching my jaw with agony at the horrors of the war; thankfully for my taste, Heller leaned more on the comedic/optimistic side.

Reading Catch-22 was sort of like watching a brilliantly shining coin flipping through a majestic parabola in slow motion, with one side represe Never have I been pulled through the entire spectrum of emotion quite as enjoyably as this, with Heller ingeniously switching tones on a dime with a magician's charm. One moment I was laughing like a fool, and the next I was clenching my jaw with agony at the horrors of the war; thankfully for my taste, Heller leaned more on the comedic/optimistic side.

Reading Catch-22 was sort of like watching a brilliantly shining coin flipping through a majestic parabola in slow motion, with one side representing laugh-out-loud comedy and the other an intense exploration of the terrors of war, making its way to the ground with the weight of someone's fate resting on whichever side it falls on. But this isn't just a thoughtless experiment. Both tones are equally pleasing and useful to the story.

Catch-22 definitely wasn't perfect, but it's close. It reminded me of a Confederacy of Dunces because there were segments that I know a lot of people simply won't laugh at if they don't possess a certain sense of humor. And at times it can be a bit much to wrangle, but if you don't allow the insanity and chaos to consume you, you'll enjoy it thoroughly.

I feel like Yossarian and Dunbar represented how my friends and I would have handled the situation--with a sane amount of insanity that'd be necessary in the face of such horror and idiocy. Yossarian has to be the best anti-hero I've come across so far, and the way Heller is able to spin illogical conversations, rules, and situations into logical nonsense and back again is fantastic.

I'm rambling now, but this is truly laugh out loud great. Among too many to name, Clevinger's interrogation and the moaning at the briefing were comedic gold. But have no doubt that this is a "thinking person's" book as well. It deals with all of the Big questions of life in some manner. There's plenty of psychology to examine, be it bureaucratic, war, anxiety, etc.; and the final scene with Snowden was incredibly touching.

I really cannot say enough about this beauty, so trust me and see for yourself. This was my second attempt to read it after ditching it 30 pages in a year ago. And part of that was due to my having read all of the bashing reviews and avoiding it. But like beauty, it's all in the eye of the beholder, so give it a chance. I'm glad I did. And I think Heller's prose is underrated; there were some sentences there that simply knocked me out. I will definitely read Catch-22 again and recommend to friends. This one pulled me in so well that it's one of the rare books that has genuinely made me wish characters were killed off painfully....fucking Milo. ...more

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Apr 19, 2010 chucklesthescot rated it did not like it

Recommends it for: nobody on this planet even if I hate their guts

Shelves: historical, fiction, war, worst-ever-books, abandoned

Worst book I've ever had the misfortune to pick up. My dad warned me that this book was lower on the evolution scale than a wet turd, but I thought I'd try it anyway. I hated this with every fibre in my body and with any luck the book will just crawl away and die.

The characters were obnoxious, moronic gits who I hoped would all die at the hands of Jason Vorhees very soon and there was no way I'd ever connect with that idiot who was meant to be our beloved hero. The dialogue was incomprehensible ...more

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Joseph Heller was the son of poor Jewish parents from Russia. Even as a child, he loved to write; at the age of eleven, he wrote a story about the Russian invasion of Finland. He sent it to New York Daily News, which rejected it. After graduating from Abraham Lincoln High School in 1941, Heller spent the next ye ...more