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message 201: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Janet wrote: "2.10 I read Dave at Night by Gail Carson Levine by Gail Carson Levine. It was on the SLJ best of 2000 list. It was a delightful story!

Pages: 288
Points: 10 + 5 (genre) Historic..."


This may have made a SLJ list, but it wasn't a starred review. All SLJ starred reviews say "starred review" at the beginning. Sorry. This doesn't fit that part of the challenge. It's on the 9th grade reading list at my daughter's school, so you could use it for that, or make it fit elsewhere? Let me know where you put it.


message 202: by Karis (last edited Aug 31, 2011 08:03AM) (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Brianne wrote: "1.10– Die for Me by Amy Plum (341 pgs)
Genre Bonus: Fantasy/Supernatural

1.15–Going Bovine– rated by Maria – This really didn’t seem like a book I wo..."


On Good Masters! Sweet Ladies! Voices from a Medieval Village and its 96 pages, I'm going to defer to Kristen... I was looking at the other editions, hoping to find one with more pages, but the only other had 85, so that doesn't help you. I would be inclined to say that it has to be 100, because the next person will want to include a 92 page book, then an 87 page book, etc. Maybe that's just the mom in me that says firm boundaries are a must... :) Anyone else that wants to weigh in on this, feel free.


message 203: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments 1.15 (#3) Red Glove by Holly Black
Pages- 325
Points- 2

Alyson (Kit Lit Frenzy) gave this 5 stars. I agree. It was awesome. Even better than White Cat.

5.5 Divergent by Veronica Roth
Pages- 496
Points- 5

1.5 Across the Universe by Beth Revis
Pages- 398
Points- 5

1.25a Sisters Red by Jackson Pearce
Pages- 324
Points- 12.5

1.25b Sweetly by Jackson Pearce
Pages- 312
Points- 12.5

3.25a Anna and the French Kiss by Stephanie Perkins
Pages- 372
Points- 12.5

5.20 The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar and Six More by Roald Dahl
Genre Bonus (Short Stories)- 5 points
Pages- 240
Points- 25

Points- 441
Pages- 10,659
Books Read- 34
Genres Completed- Humor, Contemporary/Realistic, Sci-fi, Classic, Dystopia, Romance, Horror, Mystery, Action/Adventure, Fantasy, Graphic Novel, Historical Fiction, Paranormal, Folk/Fairy Tale (Retelling), War, Religious, Multi-Cultural, Short Stories


message 204: by Jesi (new)

Jesi (pwnedkitten) | 198 comments On Good Masters! Sweet Ladies! Voices from a Medieval Village and its 96 pages, I'm going to defer to Kristen... I was looking at the other editions, hoping to find one with more pages, but the only other had 85, so that doesn't help you. I would be inclined to say that it has to be 100, because the next person will want to include a 92 page book, then an 87 page book, etc. Maybe that's just the mom in me that says firm boundaries are a must... :) Anyone else that wants to weigh in on this, feel free.

Not that I'm ABN here, but I'd have to agree with you on this - since there's a page limit, you should stick with the page limit.


message 205: by Ann (new)

Ann | 88 comments 1.25 The World According to Humphrey and Friendship According to Humphrey by Betty G. Birney. 144 and 176 pages


Points: 25
pages: 320

total points: 105
total pages:1941
Genres used: realistic fiction, poetry, fantasy, paranormal


message 206: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Completed Tasks
Extra 1.15 Wonderstruck by Brian Selznick (608 pages) 8/29/2011
Rated 5 stars by Kathy- I completely agree that this is a five star book! It is just as fabulous as Hugo Cabret!

Points earned: 2
Total points: 457
Total pages: 8779
Genres used: Realistic Fiction, Graphic Novel, Horror, Apocalyptic, Nonfiction, Historical Fiction, Humor, Multicultural, Paranormal, Sci Fi, Fairy Tales, LBGT, War, Fantasy, Mystery, Poetry



message 207: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) 5.25 Divergent by Veronica Roth (496 pages)
+5 dystopian
= 30 pts

This book was recommended by Kellee - I loved it!

Total Points: 115
Total Pages: 2288


message 208: by Lydia (new)

Lydia (loverofinformation) | 596 comments 1.10: Beauty Queens: (390 pgs) 2 pts
3.15. Along for the Ride (399 pgs) 15 pts
3.25 All's Fair in Love, War, and High School ((192 pgs) and Jessica's Guide to Dating on the Dark Side (351 pgs) 25 pts
4.15 Birthmarked (362 pgs) 2 pts
4.20 Two-Way Street (288 pgs) 20 pts
5.15 Perfectly Dateless (256 pgs) 15 pts

Total pts earned:: 79 pts
Total points: 410
Total pages: 10,290

I don't think I will complete 5.25. One, I am much too old to remember book recommendations in high school and two I was in AP English and did not read any YA books. But, c'est la vie!


message 209: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Lydia wrote: "1.10: Beauty Queens: (390 pgs) 2 pts
3.15. Along for the Ride (399 pgs) 15 pts
3.25 All's Fair in Love, War, and High School ((192 pgs) and [book:Jessica..."


Lydia, other teacher or librarian recommendations count for 5.25. Most of us are too old to remember what was suggested in high school!


message 210: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Lydia wrote: "1.10: Beauty Queens: (390 pgs) 2 pts
3.15. Along for the Ride (399 pgs) 15 pts
3.25 All's Fair in Love, War, and High School ((192 pgs) and [book:Jessica..."


This one doesn't have to be YA.


message 211: by Karis (last edited Sep 01, 2011 04:13PM) (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Okay Ladies,

When we made up this challenge, we forgot to include a section for the ever-important Banned Books Week, which is September 24th-October 2nd... So, we are adding a bonus section called "Banned Books". Below are several links to banned books. You will get 5 points for every book you read and discuss off of any of these lists. There is no limit. The book could have been read any time during the July-September challenge period, as long as you haven't claimed it in a different area of the challenge.

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message 212: by Maree (new)

Maree | 233 comments LOL oh no! I was totally on track for the challenge a second ago. ;)


message 213: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Maree wrote: "LOL oh no! I was totally on track for the challenge a second ago. ;)"

This is just gravy though! :)


message 214: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments 4.5 (#2) Never Have I Ever by Sara Shepard
Pages- 309
Points- 2

4.15 (#4) Dreamland by Alyson Noel
Pages- 192
Points- 2

Points- 445
Pages- 11,160
Books Read- 36
Genres Completed- Humor, Contemporary/Realistic, Sci-fi, Classic, Dystopia, Romance, Horror, Mystery, Action/Adventure, Fantasy, Graphic Novel, Historical Fiction, Paranormal, Folk/Fairy Tale (Retelling), War, Religious, Multi-Cultural, Short Stories


message 215: by Maree (new)

Maree | 233 comments Yummy gravy! ;)

Hokay, some juggling with the new situation we got goin' on.... :)

5.15 Doomsday Book by Connie Willis (578 pages), High School Reading List

And then I'll count The Glass Castle as a 2010 banned book (5 points)

And add a second book for 5.25 In the Woods by Tara French (Thriller) (429 pages) (7 points)

Points: 12
Total Points: 401
Total Pages: 9684


message 216: by Jesi (new)

Jesi (pwnedkitten) | 198 comments 1.05 - Will Grayson, Will Grayson by John Green
★★★★★
Genre Bonus (GLBT) - 5
Pages - 336
Points - 10

Will Grayson, Will Grayson by John Green

Total points: 155
Total pages : 3519

Genres done - fantasy/supernatural, mystery, paranormal, romance, humor, historical, folk/fairy tale, sci-fi, GLBT


message 217: by Brandi (new)

Brandi (librandian) | 206 comments Inside the Shadow City by Kirsten Miller 387 pages

Genre: Action/Adventure - 5 pts.

Total Points: 95
Total Pages: 1956


message 218: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Brandi wrote: "Inside the Shadow City by Kirsten Miller 387 pages

Genre: Action/Adventure - 5 pts.

Total Points: 95
Total Pages: 1956"


What part of the challenge are you claiming this for?


message 219: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Chnaging a couple of things...

Taking Flip for my 1st SLJ Starred Review (going from 2 points to 10), and moving Living Dead Girl from there to my Banned Books section (10+5 to 5+5). Gaining a total of 3 points...

Points- 448
Pages- 11,160
Books Read- 36
Genres Completed- Humor, Contemporary/Realistic, Sci-fi, Classic, Dystopia, Romance, Horror, Mystery, Action/Adventure, Fantasy, Graphic Novel, Historical Fiction, Paranormal, Folk/Fairy Tale (Retelling), War, Religious, Multi-Cultural, Short Stories


message 220: by Cristen (new)

Cristen | 135 comments 1.15 (#4) Monsters of Men by Patrick Ness 603 pages
I gave it 4 stars instead of 5 only because I would have liked more closure at the end, but it was still a good read and an excellent series

5.10 Forgive My Fins by Tera Lynn Childs 293 pages

Points - 12
Total Pages - 6,589
Total Points - 228.5

Genres done - Apocalyptic, Realistic/Contemporary, Fantasy, Romance, Religious, Sci-Fi, Mystery, Paranormal, Action/Adventure, Horror


message 221: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Completed Tasks
Extra 4.15 The Softwire: Virus on Orbis 1 by PJ Haarsma (272 pages) 9/4/2011

Points earned: 2
Total points: 459
Total pages: 9051
Genres used: Realistic Fiction, Graphic Novel, Horror, Apocalyptic, Nonfiction, Historical Fiction, Humor, Multicultural, Paranormal, Sci Fi, Fairy Tales, LBGT, War, Fantasy, Mystery, Poetry



message 222: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (Reading is Better With Cupcakes) (imjustcupcake) | 191 comments 4.5 Read a book where the main character moves to a new city

Spirit Bound - my edition 323 pgs

Rose graduates from St. Vladimirs Academy and moves to the Royal Court with Lissa.

It is a whole nother ball game when you are over 18 and the worst punishment you are used to getting for your actions is detention.

Points earned = 5

Total Points = 159.5
Total Pages = 3775
Genres Used = Romance; Fantasy/Supernatural; Paranormal; Dystopian/Apocalyptic/Post-Apocolyptic; Horror/Thriller/Suspense


message 223: by Kristen (new)

Kristen Harvey | 1046 comments I agree with Karis on the page rule. 100 pages or no go. Sorry I've been sorta absent lately ladies. School started and it's been insanity. Will get back on track these week. Maybe will even have time to read.


message 224: by Cristen (new)

Cristen | 135 comments 4.25 The Throne of Fire by Rick Riordan 446 pages - Book 2 of 2 (set primarily in England, Russia, and Egypt)
12.5 points

4.15 (#2) Fins Are Forever by Tera Lynn Childs 272 pages
2 points

Points - 14.5
Total Pages - 7,307
Total Points - 243

Genres done - Apocalyptic, Realistic/Contemporary, Fantasy, Romance, Religious, Sci-Fi, Mystery, Paranormal, Action/Adventure, Horror


message 225: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Jesi wrote: "1.05 - Will Grayson, Will Grayson by John Green
★★★★★
Genre Bonus (GLBT) - 5
Pages - 336
Points - 10

Will Grayson, Will Grayson by John Green

Total points: 1..."


FYI- Will Grayson is a banned book so if you have a 2nd for that part of the challenge, you can get more points...


message 226: by Maree (last edited Sep 06, 2011 05:07PM) (new)

Maree | 233 comments 2.20 The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman (312 pages)

I thought the book definitely was good enough to merit a nomination, but I'd have to read some of the other books to decide if I think it should have won. More on the book itself in my review here

Total Points: 20
Total Points: 421
Total Pages: 9996


message 227: by Karis (last edited Sep 07, 2011 10:35AM) (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments 2.20 (#3) Ginger Pye by Eleanor Estes
Pages- 306
Points-2

This book should not have won any award, much less the coveted Newbery. It may well be the most boring book EVER. That said, my 6 year old said she liked it, but then, it did take over a month to read it to her because she kept falling asleep after 5 minutes...

Points- 450
Pages- 11,466
Books Read- 37
Genres Completed- Humor, Contemporary/Realistic, Sci-fi, Classic, Dystopia, Romance, Horror, Mystery, Action/Adventure, Fantasy, Graphic Novel, Historical Fiction, Paranormal, Folk/Fairy Tale (Retelling), War, Religious, Multi-Cultural, Short Stories


message 228: by Maree (new)

Maree | 233 comments 3.15 Hourglass by Myra McEntire (397 pages).

Em got a job at a coffee shop.

Total Points: 15
Total Points: 436
Total Pages: 10393

Woohoo! 5 digits of pages read! :)


message 229: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Maree wrote: "3.15 Hourglass by Myra McEntire (397 pages).

Em got a job at a coffee shop.

Total Points: 15
Total Points: 436
Total Pages: 10393

Woohoo! 5 digits of pages read! :)"


LOVED this book so much!! I met Myra this past weekend. She was so nice! I'm going to be giving a signed copy of Hourglass away on my blog soon.


message 230: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments 3.20 (#2) Epic Fail by Claire LaZebnik
Pages- 288
Points- 2

Points- 452
Pages- 11,754
Books Read- 38
Genres Completed- Humor, Contemporary/Realistic, Sci-fi, Classic, Dystopia, Romance, Horror, Mystery, Action/Adventure, Fantasy, Graphic Novel, Historical Fiction, Paranormal, Folk/Fairy Tale (Retelling), War, Religious, Multi-Cultural, Short Stories


message 231: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Stephanie wrote: "4.5 Read a book where the main character moves to a new city

Spirit Bound - my edition 323 pgs

Rose graduates from St. Vladimirs Academy and moves to the Royal Court with Lissa..."


We take the page count from the edition Goodreads lists first. In this case, that's 489... :)


message 232: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Leaderboard time!!

Kellee: 459 points; 9,051 pages
Karis: 452 points; 11,754 pages
Maree: 436 points; 10,393 pages
Lydia: 385 points; 9,428 pages
Brianne: 360 points; 7,558 pages
Cristen: 243 points; 7,307 pages
Kristen: 216.5 points; 4,890 pages
Amy: 167 points; 4,203 pages
Stephanie: 159.5 points; 3,941 pages
Jesi: 135 points; 3,106 pages
Stef: 120 points; 3,094 pages
Angela: 115 points; 2,288 pages
Ann: 107 points; 1,941 pages
Brandi: 95 points; 1,956 pages
Emily: 90 points; 2,553 pages
Janet: 90 points, 1,793 pages
Jennifer W.: 85 points; 957 pages
Celeste: 72 points, 1,749 pages
Heather: 42.5 points; 987 pages
Alyson: 15 points; 208 pages

Total Points: 3,844.5
Total Pages: 89,157


message 233: by Maree (new)

Maree | 233 comments Very cool, Karis! How did you get started writing a book blog where you get to do so many cool things?

5.15 The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair that Changed America by Erik Larson, 447 pages.

Riordan High School

Points: 2
Total Points: 438
Total Pages: 10840


message 234: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Maree wrote: "Very cool, Karis! How did you get started writing a book blog where you get to do so many cool things?

5.15 [book:The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair that Changed ..."


I go to Decatur Book Festival every year. Myra was there this year. I just love doing the blog. Most people I know don't care to hear me ramble about books. It gives me an outlet... :)


message 235: by Maree (new)

Maree | 233 comments Neat! That sounds like a great thing to be able to do. I'd love to have a little more freedom and time to do something like that.


message 236: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments 3.25b Dizzy in Your Eyes: Poems about Love by Pat Mora- 12.5 points
Genre Bonus (Poetry)- 5 points
Pages- 165
Points- 17.5

4.20 (#3) Witches of East End by Melissa de la Cruz
Pages- 272
Points- 2

6.05 Stolen: A letter to my captor by Lucy Christopher (Challenged/Banned in 2011)
Pages- 301
Points- 5

I don't see why this book would be challenged. The f-word was used a few times, but otherwise, it was not objectionable content-wise. Perfectly fine YA content.


Points- 476.5
Pages- 12,492
Books Read- 41
Genres Completed- Humor, Contemporary/Realistic, Sci-fi, Classic, Dystopia, Romance, Horror, Mystery, Action/Adventure, Fantasy, Graphic Novel, Historical Fiction, Paranormal, Folk/Fairy Tale (Retelling), War, Religious, Multi-Cultural, Short Stories, Poetry


message 237: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Completed Tasks
1.05 The Bermudez Triangle by Maureen Johnson (368 pages) 9/10/11
Genre bonus: Romance

Points earned: 10
Total points: 469
Total pages: 9419
Genres used: Realistic Fiction, Graphic Novel, Horror, Apocalyptic, Nonfiction, Historical Fiction, Humor, Multicultural, Paranormal, Sci Fi, Fairy Tales, LBGT, War, Fantasy, Mystery, Poetry, Romance



message 238: by Angela Sunshine (last edited Sep 10, 2011 11:57PM) (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) 5.5 Stork by Wendy Delsol (355 pages)
+5 genre: Folk/fairy tale retelling
=10 pts

4.5 Trial by Fire by Jennifer Lynn Barnes (357 pages)
=5 pts.

Total Points:130
Total Pages: 3000


message 239: by Cristen (new)

Cristen | 135 comments 1.20 Stolen: A letter to my captor by Lucy Christopher 299 Pages

I thought this was an excellent book, and I definitely feel it deserves a place on the top WT reads list. I liked that Christopher wrote it in "letter-format" to the kidnapper from the victim, it had a very authentic feel.

3.15 (#2) The Back Door of Midnight by Elizabeth Chandler 299 Pages
(main character gets a summer job in a holiday shop)

Points - 22
Total Pages - 7,905
Total Points - 265

Genres done - Apocalyptic, Realistic/Contemporary, Fantasy, Romance, Religious, Sci-Fi, Mystery, Paranormal, Action/Adventure, Horror


message 240: by Celeste (new)

Celeste (celeste_bocchicchio) | 88 comments 4.15 Faerie Warsby Herbie Brennan

Total points: 87
Total pages: 1701


message 241: by Cristen (new)

Cristen | 135 comments 2.20 Moon Over Manifest by Clare Vanderpool 342 Pages (+5 Genre Bonus: Historical Fiction)

This was a beautifully-written book set during two pivotal periods in America's history. Abilene was a very likable heroine. Jinx was quite plucky and his shenanigans made me laugh. I enjoyed it and recommend it highly. I think it's very deserving of the Newbery Medal.

Points - 25
Total Pages - 8,247
Total Points - 290

Genres done - Apocalyptic, Realistic/Contemporary, Fantasy, Romance, Religious, Sci-Fi, Mystery, Paranormal, Action/Adventure, Horror, Historical Fiction


message 242: by Maree (new)

Maree | 233 comments 2.15 If I Stay by Gayle Forman, 199 pages

CYRM Nominee

There were moments where this book was wonderful and had me gathering tears, but equal moments where I was annoyed at the stupidity of teenagers in grief. I can see where for some those moments would also be considered heartbreaking, but it didn't complete it for me.

Points: 15
Total Points: 453
Total Pages: 11039


message 243: by Ann (last edited Sep 12, 2011 07:38PM) (new)

Ann | 88 comments Banned Book: ttyl by Lauren Myracle

I've been meaning to read this for a long time, since it's often at the top of banned book lists. It was okay. I'm not sure I would've bothered to finish it if I wasn't going to get points for it. :-} I can see where parents get all riled up about the book since it has a lot of "bad" language and some mature themes that some parents are convinced their precious babies will never otherwise encounter.

Points: 5
pages: 209

total points: 110
total pages:2150
Genres used: realistic fiction, poetry, fantasy, paranormal


message 244: by Cristen (new)

Cristen | 135 comments 5.25 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams 215 pages (+5 Genre Bonus: Humor)

Points - 30
Total Pages - 8,462
Total Points - 320

Genres done - Apocalyptic, Realistic/Contemporary, Fantasy, Romance, Religious, Sci-Fi, Mystery, Paranormal, Action/Adventure, Horror, Historical Fiction, Humor


message 245: by Cristen (last edited Sep 13, 2011 08:02PM) (new)

Cristen | 135 comments 2.15 Beastly by Alex Flinn 300 Pages (+5 Genre Bonus: Folk/Fairy Tale) Won California Young Reader Award

I liked this book pretty well, but as you might guess I'm a fan of the Beauty and the Beast story. Parts of it were on the "corny" side but I still enjoyed it, although I don't think I would have given it a Young Reader Award.

Points - 20
Total Pages - 8,762
Total Points - 340

Genres done - Apocalyptic, Realistic/Contemporary, Fantasy, Romance, Religious, Sci-Fi, Mystery, Paranormal, Action/Adventure, Horror, Historical Fiction, Humor, Folk/Fairy Tale


message 246: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) 3.20 The Boy Who Dared by Susan Campbell Bartoletti (192 pages)
+5 genre: historical

Ahh, Chad... heheh...

= 25 points

Total Points: 155
Total Pages: 3192


message 247: by Maree (new)

Maree | 233 comments 1.10 Beauty Queens by Libba Bray, 390 pages

Discussion

Points: 10
Total Points: 463
Total Pages: 11429


message 248: by Brandi (new)

Brandi (librandian) | 206 comments Karis (YA Litwit) wrote: "Brandi wrote: "Inside the Shadow City by Kirsten Miller 387 pages

Genre: Action/Adventure - 5 pts.

Total Points: 95
Total Pages: 1956"

What part of the challenge ar..."


I was just using it for the genre. I thought that was ok. If not, I'll take the points back. :)


message 249: by Brandi (new)

Brandi (librandian) | 206 comments 5.25 Read a book that one of your teachers from your school days recommended. (Can be non-YA)

The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald 180 pages
Genre: Classic - 5

Total points: 125
Total pages: 2136


message 250: by Karis (new)

Karis Jacobstein (yalitwit) | 419 comments Brandi wrote: "Karis (YA Litwit) wrote: "Brandi wrote: "Inside the Shadow City by Kirsten Miller 387 pages

Genre: Action/Adventure - 5 pts.

Total Points: 95
Total Pages: 1956"

Wha..."


That's fine. I just thought I missed something.


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