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Monthly Totals To help track my progress
Jan: 66 books
27 booksFeb: 76 books
4 graphic novels
35 picture books
40 booksMar: 116 books
5 graphic novels
31 picture books
31 booksApr: 58 books
6 graphic novels
79 picture books
23 booksMay: 134 books
0 graphic novels
35 picture books
24 booksJun: 62 books
3 graphic novels
107 picture books
30 booksJul: 83 books
18 graphic novels
14 picture books
22 booksAug: 56 books
36 graphic novels
25 picture books
17 booksSep: 50 books
25 graphic novels
14 picture books
8 booksOct: 55 books
9 graphic novels
33 picture books
15 booksNov: 37 books
8 graphic novels
32 picture books
7 booksDec: 52 books
15 graphic novels
15 picture books
19 books
16 graphic novel
17 picture books
Total Books: 263
Total Graphic Novels: 145
Total Picture Books: 437
Grand Total: 845 titles
A-Z ChallengeRead a book beginning with each letter of the alphabet. Will try to count as few picture books as possible - read way too many of those for this to be a challenge otherwise!
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
H
I
J
K
L
M
N
O
P
Q
R
S
T
U
V
W
X
Y
Z
Historical Romance Series ChallengeGoal: Addictive
Another personal challenge through another group. Complete the sets! I'm not holding myself to just one year for this one, especially as my romance reading comes in waves when it comes to themes, tropes, subgenres, etc. This is just an ongoing one for me year to year, as I aim to finish up a few series (and probably reread a number of books in the process!)
Series: Bedwyn Saga - Mary Balogh (9 books, including side works)
Have read 2/9
0.5 One Night for Love (Bedwyn Prequel 1)
(Bedwyn Prequel 2)1 Slightly Married
3 Slightly Scandalous
4 Slightly Tempted
5 Slightly Sinful
6 Slightly Dangerous
6.5 Once Upon A Dream
Series: Mistress Series - Mary Balogh (4 books, including side work)
1 More Than a Mistress
2 No Man's Mistress
2.5 Now a Bride
3 The Secret Mistress
Series: Huxtable Quintet - Mary Balogh (5 books)
1 First Comes Marriage
2 Then Comes Seduction
3 At Last Comes Love
4 Seducing an Angel
5 A Secret Affair
Series: Kellingtons - Maureen Driscoll (6 books)
A reread, but a favorite family to visit
6 Never Turn Away
Series: Emersons - Maureen Driscoll (6 books)
Reread the Kellington series first, then on to its sequel series, the Emersons!
1 Always Come Home
2 Always True to Her
3 Always Have Hope
4 Always Believe in Love
5 Always Forever
6 Never and Always
Series: Secret Lives - Colleen Connally (3 books)
2 Broken Legacy
3 Seductive Lies
Series: The Dukes of War - Erica Ridley (8 novellas)
5 The Brigadier's Runaway Bride
6 The Pirate's Tempting Stowaway
7 The Duke's Accidental Wife
8 All I Want
Series: Cynfell Brothers - Samantha Holt (7 novellas)
3 Sinful Liaisons
4 Sinful Cravings
5 Sinful Possession
6 Sinful Temptations
7 Sinful Secrets
Series: Waltz with a Rogue / The Honorable Rogues - Collette Cameron (6 novellas)
2 A Bride for a Rogue: A Historical Regency Romance
3 A Rogue's Scandalous Wish
4 To Capture a Rogue's Heart
5 The Rogue and the Wallflower
6 A Rose for a Rogue
Series: Bridgerton - Julia Quinn
Prequel 1 Because of Miss Bridgerton
Prequel 2 The Girl with the Make-Believe Husband
Prequel 3 The Other Miss Bridgerton
Prequel 4 First Comes Scandal
1 The Duke and I
2 The Viscount Who Loved Me
3 An Offer From a Gentleman
4 Romancing Mister Bridgerton
5 To Sir Phillip, With Love
6 When He Was Wicked
7 It's in His Kiss
8 On the Way to the Wedding
More series to be added as I think of them, but these should get me started!
Finish the Series ChallengeLike the challenge above, this one's about completing the sets! It's a personal challenge, to help me focus my way through all of those many, many series I'm dabbling in. Some of these have been started in previous years, and I want to reach the ending. Here goes!
Dragon Kin - G.A. Aiken
Last Dragon Standing
The Dragon Who Loved Me
How to Drive a Dragon Crazy
Light My Fire
Feel the Burn
Bring the Heat
Honey Badger Chronicles - Shelly Laurenston
Breaking Badger
Born to Be Badger
To Kill a Badger
Call of Crows - Shelly Laurenston
The Unleashing
The Undoing
The Unyielding
The Dresden Files - Jim Butcher
Dead Beat
Proven Guilty
White Night
Small Favor
Turn Coat
Changes
Ghost Story
Cold Days
Skin Game
Peace Talks
Battle Ground
Side Jobs
Parasol Protctorate, et al - Gail Carriger
Heartless
Timeless
Etiquette & Espionage
Curtsies & Conspiracies
Waistcoats & Weaponry
Manners & Mutiny
Prudence
Imprudence
Competence
Reticence
Daevabad Trilogy - SA Chakraborty
The City of Brass
The Kingdom of Copper
The Empire of Gold
The River of Silver
Protection Inc - Zoe Chant
Colewood MT - Kim Fox
Shadow Walkers - Cynthia Luhrs
Court of Thorns & Roses - Sarah J Maas
A Court of Thorns and Roses
A Court of Mist and Fury
A Court of Wings and Ruin
A Court of Frost and Starlight
A Court of Silver Flames
Lunar Chronicles - Marissa Meyer
Cinder
Scarlet
Cress
Fairest
Winter
Stars Above
Wires and Nerve Vol 1
Wires and Nerve Vol 2
Librarian's Vampire Assistant - Mimi Jean Pamfiloff
The Librarian's Vampire Assistant 2
The Librarian's Vampire Assistant, Book 3
The Librarian's Vampire Assistant, Book 4
The Librarian's Vampire Assistant, Book 5
Vampire Man
Jackaby - William Ritter
The Dire King
The Map
Grishaverse - Leigh Bardugo
Demon in the Wood
Shadow and Bone
Siege and Storm
Ruin and Rising
Six of Crows
Crooked Kingdom
King of Scars
Rule of Wolves
The Language of Thorns
The Lives of Saints
Ember in the Ashes - Sabaa Tahir
An Ember in the Ashes
A Torch Against the Night
A Reaper at the Gates
A Sky Beyond the Storm
A Thief Among the Trees
Quasar Lineage - Pearl Tate
The Enchanted Forest Chronicles - Patricia C. Wrede
Searching for Dragons
Calling on Dragons
Talking to Dragons
World of the White Rat - T. Kingfisher
Clocktaur Wars
Clockwork Boys
The Wonder Engine
Swordheart
Swordheart
Saint of Steel
Paladin's Faith
Tiger's Eye Mysteries - Alyssa Day
A Dead End Christmas
Eye for an Eye
Eye on the Ball
More Than Meets the Eye
Riot MC - Karen Renee
Calming the Riot
Foolish Riot
Respectable Riot
Rough Riot
Dead Presidents MC - Harley Stone
Reckless Bastards MC - KB Winters
Holiday Havoc
Tempted
Wicked
Locked
Loaded
Tied
Wild
One of my favorite challenges over the last few years - reading based on cover colors. This appeals to my quirky sense of humor - what librarian hasn't had the "I can't remember the title but the cover was blue" sort of question?1. White (or ivory, cream, bone, etc...)
2. Pink (rose, magenta, salmon, etc...)
3. Red (maroon, brick, scarlet, etc...)
4. Orange (apricot, ginger, carrot, etc...)
5. Yellow (blond, chartreuse, canary, etc...)
6. Green (sage, lime, jade, etc...)
7. Light Blue (teal, sky, cerulean, etc...)
8. Dark Blue (indigo, denim, navy, etc...)
9. Purple (lavender, plum, orchid, etc...)
10. Brown (tan, mahogany, coffee, etc...)
11. Black (grey, slate, coal, etc...)
12. A Metallic color (gold, silver, bronze, etc...)
13. A book with at least 5 colors on the cover
14. A book with a color in the title
15. A book with a word describing colors in the title
Found this one a few years ago and loved it. Appeals to my mythology-loving heart. Worth a repeat!MYTHS FROM AROUND THE WORLD
GoodReads 2020 Challenge Group
1. Janus - Roman god of beginnings and transitions.
Read a book set in Italy, or a book with a character that starts out on a fresh beginning.
2. Fenghuang - Chinese bird, also known as the Chinese Phoenix, is a mythical bird that signifies high virtue and grace.
Read a book set in China, or a book featuring a character full of grace and virtue.
3. Brownie- Scottish mythical creature that inhabits houses and aids in tasks.
Read a book set in Scotland, or a book featuring a character that does work that is unseen.
4. Enenra - Japanese smoke creature. It inhabits bonfires and legend says can only be seen by the pure of heart.
Read a book set in Japan, or a book with a pure-hearted character.
5. Cyclops - Greek mythical one-eyed giants.
Read a book based on a Greek tragedy or a book featuring a short-sighted character.
6. Lang suir - Malaysian ghost of a woman who died in childbirth.
Read a book from Southeast Asia, or a book featuring a character who dies from a broken heart.
7. Finnish water spirit who will capture unmindful children.
Read a book set in the Nordic countries, or a book about a captured child.
8. Hippogriff - European medieval beast that is half eagle and half horse, known for being extremely fast and able to fly long distances.
Read a book about medieval Europe, or a book featuring a character who flies.
9. Wandjina - Australian aboriginal wind and cloud spirits.
Read a book set in Oceania, or a book featuring an important weather event.
10. Jumbee - Caribbean malevolent entities.
Read a book set in the Caribbean, or a book featuring a malevolent character
11. Deer Woman - a half-deer half-woman creature in Native American lore.
Read a book that features a Native American protagonist or a forest setting.
12. Anansi - trickster spider.
Read a book set in Africa or one in which one or more insects play a conspicuous (but not necessarily major) role.
13. Encantado - shapeshifting dolphin in Brazilian myth.
Read a book set in South America or about any type of metamorphosis.
14. Leprechaun
Read a book with a green cover, a book set in Ireland, or about a character who experiences very good luck.
15. Merfolk
Read a book that features a mermaid or takes place at sea.
16. Nightmare
Read a book in which dreaming or dreams play a central role, or a book which features horses.
17. Phoenix
Read a book about rebirth, or a book that features fire (because a phoenix rises from the flames).
18. Nine-tailed fox - a magical fox with nine tails that appears in East Asian legend.
Read a book about foxes or read a manga (because the epononymous Naruto manga stars a ninja who transforms into a nine-tailed fox).
19. Baba Yaga - a supernatural being in Russian fairy tales who appears as a fearsome old woman.
Read a book set in Russia or a book featuring a witch.
20. Shahbaz - a fabled bird in ancient Persian mythology.
Read a book set in Western Asia or that takes place in a desert region.
Three Books by the Same Author A-KMatsuri Akai
Natasha Anders
Sarah Anderson
Addy Archer
Cale Atkinson
Candace Ayers
Kat Baxter
J Bennett
Sandra Boynton
Graham Brack
Marc Brown
Lindsay Buroker
Eric Carle
Agatha Christie
M.E. Clayton
Jamie Lee Curtis
Lucy Darling
Piper Davenport
Lainey Davis
Alyssa Day
Anna Dewdney
Pamela Duncan Edwards
Hope Ford
Fujita
Nakaba Harufuji
Ariana Hawkes
J.B. Heller
Kevin Henkes
Ryan T. Higgins
Aki Iwai
Kazu Kibuishi
Three Books by the Same Author L-ZEve Langlais
Suzy Lee
Helen Lester
Patricia MacLachlan
Andrew MacLean
Nana Malone
Mashiro
Amu Meguro
Rin Mikimoto
Yoshiki Nakamura
Nekokurage
Kim Norman
Molly O'Hare
Tomu Ohmi
Kaori Ozaki
Tim Probert
Fiona Robinson
Eric Rohmann
Dorothy L. Sayers
Esther E Schmidt
K.M. Shea
Mayu Shinjo
Mayra Statham
Eve Titus
Rei Toma
Yu Tomofuji
Miyuki Tonogaya
Mo Willems
KB Winters
Lola Wright
A variation on the Round The World reading challenge from the EVERYONE Has Read This But Me group. I'm not as picky about the order that "travel" is happening; I'm just looking to see if I can read in more state and more countries than I might normally do without consciously making the effort. Not going to list every book per country/state, either - just the first one that checks it off. Here we go!US
visited 26 states (52.00%)
https://douwe.com/projects/visited?re...
AK - The Frog Princess: A Tlingit Legend from Alaska
AZ - Alpha Bully
CA - Samson
CO - Gunner
FL - Dead Eye
GA - Dirty Talker
ID - Tangled Truths
IL - Vampires Drink Tomato Juice
IN - If You Could Only See
KS - Bite Me If You Can
LA - Stick
MA - Muffin Top & A Muffin Top Christmas
MD - Dozer's Run: A True Story of a Dog and His Race
MI - Exposed Cards
MN - Marven of the Great North Woods
NV - Beautifully Broken
NM - Lawman Lion
NY - Stick and Poke
OH - Ohio Thunder
OR - Road to Desire
PA - Homespun Sarah
TN - Ransom
TX - The Nerd & the Quarterback
WA - Homer Henry Hudson's Curio Museum
WI - The Westing Game
WY - Fastlander Fury
THE WORLD
visited 19 countries (8.76%)
https://douwe.com/projects/visited?re...
Australia - Marsupial Sue Presents "The Runaway Pancake"
Belgium - Christ's Entry Into Brussels
Canada - Alpha Attacked
China - Legend of the Milky Way: Retold and illustrated by Jeanne M. Lee
Egypt - The Grimoire of the Lamb
England - Die Laughing
France - The Inquisitor's Tale: Or, The Three Magical Children and Their Holy Dog
Germany - Out of the Shadows: How Lotte Reiniger Made the First Animated Fairytale Movie
Japan - The Furry-Legged Teapot
Kenya - Chirchir Is Singing
Mauritania - Deep in the Sahara
Mexico - Basil in Mexico
The Netherlands - Death in Delft
Rhodesia - The Man in the Brown Suit (modern day ZImbabwe)
Russia - The Bear and the Nightingale
Scotland - The Loch Mess Monster
South Korea - My Cat Copies Me
South Africa - The Wingman
Switzerland - Basil and the Lost Colony
US (no state specified) - Just One Look
Wales - Why Didn't They Ask Evans?
ONE WORD CHALLENGEThis was one of the March Challenges for the 2021 GoodReads Challenge Group, highlighting books with one-word titles. No, I'm not counting titles with "The" or any other article, or volume numbers in one-word manga series - truly just one word! Harder than you think!
Again!
Ahwoooooooo!
Alistair
Atlas
Axel
Baz
Boxitects
Brewer
Brick
Carl
Cash
CookieBot!
Crazy
Dewdrop
Dot
Downshift
Dreamer
Duke
Elecopter
Ford
Froodle
Gunner
Holding
Hoop-La!
Instructions
Iron
Jace
Jackaby
Justice
Keeper
Leaves
Leopardpox!
Lines
Louie
Malicious
Maple
Mick
Migrantes
Moo!
Nicholi
Phooey!
Pooh
Possession
Raiden
Ram
Rancher
Ransom
Ribbit!
Rider
Roddick
Sabriel
Samson
Seduced
Shadow
Smoky
Sniper
Stephan
Stick
Stone
Stretch
Tatts
Trainbots
Torch
Virile
Wave
Witness
NEWBERY 100The Newbery Award celebrated its 100th anniversary in 2022, and while I've read a good number off this list, I'm aiming to read a few more. There's quite a number that are older or younger than when I was in the "right" age for the Newbery, so there's a good reason to see what I missed! Eventually, I'd like to read as many as I can, so this is a good place to keep track of my tally.
I've read a number back in school, but I won't list them here until I reread them as an adult - recent enough to "count" and leave a review. On the other hand, some I've read and won't be rereading, but will still count here. I've read them recently enough that I have tracked here (and reviewed), but didn't enjoy enough to bother rereading (looking at you, A Wrinkle in Time!)
1963 - A Wrinkle in Time
1979 - The Westing Game
2004 - The Tale of Despereaux
2016 - Last Stop on Market Street
MICE AND RATS AND HAMSTERS, OH MY!This one wasn't an intentional challenge, but my first month started out with lots of books featuring intelligent mice. Not planned, just how it worked. So, bring on the chatting rodentia!
**According to berkley.edu, "Most people are familiar with mice, rats, hamsters, and guinea pigs, which are commonly kept as pets. The Rodentia also includes beavers, muskrats, porcupines, woodchucks, chipmunks, squirrels, prairie dogs, marmots, chinchillas, voles, lemmings, and many others." For my challenge here, all shall count!
CHINESE ZODIAC - Year of the DragonInspired by my rodentia challenge, this one will read books featuring the animal of the current zodiac year. 2024 is the year of the dragon, so that's an easy one to start with!
Rat
Ox
Tiger
Rabbit
Dragon - 2024
Snake
Horse
Goat
Monkey
Rooster
Dog
Pig
The Ultimate Reading ChallengeYou might have seen it - that Advent-ish sort of set up with prizes to unwrap as you read books meeting the different prompts. I got mine from Amazon, if you're curious yourself. But here I am, keeping track of what I've read so that I (honestly!!) unwrap the different prizes.
Read a novella (a short novella typically under 200 pages).
And many more novellas - my preferred length for quick, escapism reads
Read in a place you've never read before.
Read a book about a person with a disability.
Read a graphic novel.
Re-read a book you loved as a child.
Find and read a book that is much longer than your usual reads.
Read a book you selected based purely on its cover design.
Re-read a classic you hated in high school.
Sorry, nope. Life's too short for books I hated.
Listen to a reading-themed podcast.
Not really a podcast person. Much prefer audiobooks if I'm listening to anything.
Visit your local bookstore and ask a bookseller to recommend a book based on your recent favorites.
Write a letter to someone who has influenced your reading life. This could be a parent, teacher, author, bookstore owner, or friend [what, no librarian??] It's OK to make it anonymous.
Attend an author event, in person or virtually.
Oct 2024 - Steamy & Spicy Author Event, Amsterdam, NLD
Nov 2024 - Hetta Howes, Medieval Women, British Library, London, UK
Read a book by an author whose ethnicity is different from your own.
and so many manga
Read a new book that is primarily intended for children.
and so so so many more picture books...
Go to your favorite section of the library or bookstore. Blindly take a book off the shelf and take it home to read.
Write down a favorite quote or passage from a beloved book. Display it in your home.
Read a book that's been sitting on your shelf, unread, for more than a year.
Ask a family member what book has made a lasting impression on them. Find and read that book.
Read a book in a genre that you're never read before.
Read a book that features an indigenous person.
Read a book published this year.
Gift a copy of your favorite book to a friend or family member. Special occasion not required.
Make (or order) a snack or meal described in a book you've read.
Read a book currently on a bestseller list.
Participate in a book club, either virtually or in person.
The 52 Book Club’s 2024 Reading ChallengeAnother GoodReads group-driven challenge. Each year, there is a list of 52 prompts to help inspire readers to read 52 books in a year. While I definitely read more than one book a week, it's always good to have new prompts getting me out of my usual reading ruts!
1) Locked-room mystery
2) Bibliosmia: A smelly book
3) More than 40 chapters
4) Lowercase letters on the spine
5) Magical Realism
6) Women in STEM
7) At least four different POV
8) Features the ocean
9) A character-driven novel
10) Told in non-chronological order
11) Title starting with the letter “K”
12) Title starting with the letter “L”
see challenge above for full alphabet, not just K and L
13) An academic thriller
14) A grieving character
15) Part of a duology
16) An omniscient narrator
17) Nominated for The Booker Prize
18) An apostrophe in the title
19) A buddy read
20) A revenge story
21) Written by a ghostwriter
22) A plot similar to another book
23) The other book with the similar plot
24) A cover without people on it
25) An author “everyone” has read except you
26) Hybrid genre
27) By a neurodivergent author
28) A yellow spine
29) Published in a Year of the Dragon (2024, 2012, 2000, 1988, 1976, 1964, 1952...)
30) Picked without reading the blurb
31) Includes a personal phobia
32) Timeframe spans a week or less
33) An abrupt ending
34) Set in a landlocked country
35) Title matches lyrics from a song
36) Has futuristic technology
37) Palindrome on the cover
38) Published by Hachette
39) Non-fiction recommended by a friend
40) Set during a holiday you don’t celebrate
41) A sticker on the cover
42) Author debut in second half of 2024
43) About finding identity
44) Includes a wedding
45) Chapter headings have dates
46) Featuring Indigenous culture
47) Self-insert by an author
48) The word “secret” in the title
49) Set in a city starting with the letter “M”
50) A musical instrument on the cover
51) Related to the word “Wild”
52) Published in 2024
MONTHLY SUMMARY: January27 books
4 graphic novels
35 picture books
Total Books: 66 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
SHAPE Tween Book Club
The Tale of Despereaux
MONTHLY SUMMARY: February40 books
5 graphic novels
31 picture books
Total Books: 76 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
Reading the Detectives
Crooked House
Murder at the Vicarage
EVERYONE Has Read It But Me - Catch-up Book Club
Murder at the Vicarage
MONTHLY SUMMARY: March31 books
6 graphic novels
79 picture books
Total Books: 116 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
SHAPE Tween Book Club
The Inquisitor's Tale: Or, The Three Magical Children and Their Holy Dog
MONTHLY SUMMARY: April23 books
0 graphic novels
35 picture books
Total Books: 66 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
Addicted to YA
The Bear and the Nightingale
GoodReads Reading Challenge
The Bear and the Nightingale
Reading the Detectives
The Secret Adversary
Why Didn't They Ask Evans?
MONTHLY SUMMARY: May24 books
3 graphic novels
107 picture books
Total Books: 134 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
Reading the Detectives
Endless Night
Whose Body?
MONTHLY SUMMARY: June30 books
18 graphic novels
14 picture books
Total Books: 62 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
Reading the Detectives
Clouds of Witness
The Man in the Brown Suit
MONTHLY SUMMARY: July22 books
36 graphic novels
25 picture books
Total Books: 83 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
None this month
MONTHLY SUMMARY: August17 books
25 graphic novels
14 picture books
Total Books: 56 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
Reading the Detectives
Unnatural Death
MONTHLY SUMMARY: September8 books
9 graphic novels
33 picture books
Total Books: 50 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
Reading the Detectives
The Mysterious Affair at Styles
GoodReads Book of the Month Challenge
The Mysterious Affair at Styles
MONTHLY SUMMARY: October15 books
8 graphic novels
32 picture books
Total Books: 55 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
none finished this month
MONTHLY SUMMARY: November7 books
15 graphic novels
15 picture books
Total Books: 37 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
none finished this month
MONTHLY SUMMARY: December19 books
16 graphic novels
17 picture books
Total Books: 52 books
Book Club/Challenge Reads
Reading the Detectives
Death on the Nile
GoodReads Challenge
The Hobbit
Addicted to YA
The Hobbit
EVERYONE Has Read It But Me - Catch-up Book Club
The Hobbit
SHAPE Tween Book Club
The Westing Game
2025 Reading Challenge
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I'm a public services librarian, so I read. A lot. That pretty much sums it up.
Most of my reading is picture books and mid-grade, because of work, but I always have a Kindle book on the go, an audiobook or two for my commute and for working out, and a physical book or two to top it off. Plus two book clubs I run for work. It adds up - 600+ each of the last six years. Granted, more Mo Willems than Tad Williams, but still, a lot of pages each year.
For 2024, I'm starting out aiming to break at least 520 - 10 books per week. I'll adjust my goal again as needed (same as the last few years). My bigger goals, more than just the numbers, are to read new books (breaking out of my usual ruts - I'd like to read a nonfiction book each month, for example), and write more reviews. I'm hoping to write at least 104 reviews, so 2 per week.
I always look forward to the monthly challenges, etc. here to help with achieving these goals. I use this thread as a centralized Challenge Hub, with personal challenges as well as ones from other GR groups I'm in.