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Alternate England
England as it might have been…had dragons fought in the Napoleonic wars, a Celtic otherworld existed beside our own, and Regency balls been twinged with spellcasting.
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The Screaming Staircase (Lockwood & Co., #1)
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Seth Grahame-Smith (Goodreads Author)
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Hell and Earth (Promethean Age, #4)
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A Natural History of Dragons (The Memoirs of Lady Trent, #1)
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The Paradise War (The Song of Albion, #1)
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Ptolemy's Gate (Bartimaeus, #3)
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Wizard's Hall
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The Screaming Staircase (Lockwood & Co., #1)
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A Scholar of Magics (A College of Magics, #2)
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Ruby Red (Precious Stone Trilogy, #1)
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Magician's Ward (Mairelon, #2)
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Inside Evil
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Geoffrey Wakeling (Goodreads Author)
3.63 avg rating — 188 ratings
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Reason to be Shy (Levels, # 3.5)
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3.25 avg rating — 4 ratings
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Awake, King Arthur
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Glen Batchelor (Goodreads Author)
3.57 avg rating — 23 ratings
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Notes of Oisin: From an Irish Monk to a Skaldic Poet
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Tamuna Tsertsvadze (Goodreads Author)
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Bard 2
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Moonlight
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Kiss of Steel (London Steampunk, #1)
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The Darkest Hour (John Rossett, #1)
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Fly by Night
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The Napoleon of Notting Hill
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Fated (Alex Verus, #1)
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Nothing But Blue Skies
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The Paper Magician (The Paper Magician, #1)
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3.69 avg rating — 89,764 ratings
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Carry On (Simon Snow, #1)
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4.16 avg rating — 330,678 ratings
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The Minpins
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Between Two Thorns (The Split Worlds, #1)
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Emma Newman (Goodreads Author)
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Who's Afraid of Beowulf?
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Noughts & Crosses (Noughts & Crosses, #1)
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Malorie Blackman (Goodreads Author)
4.17 avg rating — 81,219 ratings
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Automatic Woman
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3.63 avg rating — 120 ratings
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The Serpent's Shadow (Elemental Masters, #1)
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4.03 avg rating — 11,296 ratings
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The Royal Sorceress (The Royal Sorceress, #1)
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3.76 avg rating — 772 ratings
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Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters
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Ben H. Winters (Goodreads Author)
3.28 avg rating — 12,200 ratings
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Bitter Seeds (The Milkweed Triptych, #1)
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Blackout (Oxford Time Travel, #3)
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The Hanged Man (Her Majesty's Psychic Service, #1)
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Petty Treason (Sarah Tolerance Book 2)
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3.90 avg rating — 820 ratings
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All Clear (Oxford Time Travel, 4)
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The Endless Knot (The Song of Albion, #3)
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Taliesin (The Pendragon Cycle #1)
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The Gauntlet (Cassandra Palmer #0.5)
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3.73 avg rating — 1,722 ratings
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The Silver Hand (The Song of Albion, #2)
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4.25 avg rating — 7,448 ratings
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The Burning Page (The Invisible Library, #3)
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4.05 avg rating — 21,117 ratings
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Whispers Under Ground (Rivers of London, #3)
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Ben Aaronovitch (Goodreads Author)
4.15 avg rating — 63,090 ratings
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Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland / Through the Looking-Glass
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Ghost Talkers
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3.86 avg rating — 4,677 ratings
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Broken Homes (Peter Grant, #4)
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Ben Aaronovitch (Goodreads Author)
4.16 avg rating — 53,825 ratings
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The Portable Door (J. W. Wells & Co., #1)
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Foxglove Summer (Rivers of London, #5)
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Toad of Toad Hall
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The Crowfield Curse (Crowfield Abbey, #1)
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Matilda
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The Shadow of Albion (Carolus Rex, #1)
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The Crowfield Demon (Crowfield Abbey, #2)
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The Mislaid Magician; or, Ten Years After (Cecelia and Kate, #3)
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The Strange Affair of Spring Heeled Jack (Burton & Swinburne, #1)
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Heartstone (Heartstone, #1)
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The Iron Duke (Iron Seas, #1)
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Smith of Wootton Major & Farmer Giles of Ham
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Counterpunch (Belonging, #2)
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Mars on the Rise (Veetu Industries, #1)
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The Lost Girl
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A Deconstructed Heart
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Oxford Blood (The Cavaliers, #1)
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The Mailed Fist
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Shadows Against the Empire (Folkestone & Hand, #1)
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Chasing the Star Garden (The Airship Racing Chronicles, #1)
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Let it Snow
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Oh, nice! I've read 58 of these books and a lot more are on my to-read list!
Good idea for a list! I've read 42 of them!However, I don't really think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Wolves of Willoughby Chase, (but not the sequels - they count) and Artemis Fowl, great books as they are, really fall into the category of alternate England... yes, they're fantasy books set in England, but in my opinion they're not true alternate worlds like Nation, Northern Lights, Temeraire, and Never Let Me Go are.
There seem to be a number of fantasy novels on here that don't even take place in England. Surely everyone knows that The Lord of the Rings takes place in Middle Earth (which may be based somewhat on England, but definitely is NOT England). And while the Narnia books are partially based in England, Narnia itself (and thus the land that contains magic) is a different place.
Kirsten wrote: "There seem to be a number of fantasy novels on here that don't even take place in England. Surely everyone knows that The Lord of the Rings takes place in Middle Earth (which may be based somewhat ..."I completely agree with you.
I went through this list and I too noticed books set in fantasy worlds instead of the 'real' UK, and therefore fully agree with Cassandra, Kirsten and Paul on this. I have serious doubts about the current #1 (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone) as well, for instance.I don't see how The Great God Pan (#323) should be on this list either. It is set in England alright, but not in an 'alternate' England, yet it has been added. Spooky, gruesome, scary, it can be whatever you like to call it, but an alternate England?
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I'd be happy to remove titles if you want me to. Unless fantasy worlds should be included in your list of course (which would still exclude The Great God Pan, in my opinion)
Argh I typed a whole reply and lost it. Shorter version: I didn't define the original category very well--never thought it would get this much attention. My original intent was just to start a list of books that still kept a "feel" of Britain while departing in some fashion (Jonathan Strange, Sorcery and Cecilia, His Majesty's Dragon).
I did mean to include fantasy titles like Sabriel, which start off in what is essentially modern Britain, but with everything north of Hadrian's wall as a separate magical kingdom. So I guess that would sort of include Harry Potter, too.
Book set in modern England but that just happen to have supernatural elements. .. eh. Not originally the plan, though if you push that logic too far they fit. So my inclination is not to include Narnia or Lord of the Rings, but I think modern England/Celtic otherworld (if it is also essentially British) is fair, and HP probably is too.
I don't know that I have the ability to remove titles from the list.
Lee Anne wrote: "I don't know that I have the ability to remove titles from the list. ..."I have, so if there are titles you'd like removed, just let me know ;-)
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