A Goodreads user
A Goodreads user asked:

Team Maven or Team Cal? Personally, I ship Maven and Mare because I'm not buying the Maven-is-all-bad thing.

To answer questions about War Storm, please sign up.
Jamie Mcmillan
“So you choose him?”

“Cal betrayed me, and I betrayed him. And you betrayed us both, in a thousand
different ways.”

“I choose no one."

#TeamMare
LaurenAnnie Team Maven, because I find Cal to be a bit boring, and we know everything about him. But with Maven, there's still so much to learn who HE actually is. You get glimpses of the real Maven (the one his mother couldn't completely destroy) throughout King's Cage. Maven is a guy that has been tortured and mentally manipulated his entire life, to the point where he can't tell what is really him and what is really his mothers manipulations. Even when though she'd dead, and not able to manipulate Maven's thoughts anymore, the damage has been done. I just hope that in book 4 Maven will have time away from the court and not have to rely on his personality made by his mother, and be able to actually be himself. Maybe. Well I hope so. But probably not because Aveyard is team "Mare".
Red_Queen_Lover SPOILERS ABOUT KING'S CAGE SOO. After reading King's Cage, I don't know anymore :( I was team Cal in the beginning then I liked Maven, then he betrayed her, then I was back with Cal, and then Mare got captured and I liked Maven a bit more- then he wouldn't let her go so I changed my mind, then Cal betrayed her too, now I'm with none, and maybe Kilorn has a chance.
Clouds Team Cal, because....(spoiler) uh he doesn't kill babies?
Tally Absolutely #TeamCal!!!!!!!!
(SPOILER ALART)
From the first Moment, when Mare and Cal met each other, i immediately fell in love with them as a couple. Cal was always so kind, funny, though and loving. In each part of the book, it was so obvious how much Cal loves Mare. They have such an exciting, breathtaking, intensive love story.
I looovvve Cal's character. He is this though, frightening, dangerous soldier but so many people forget that he has a good heart. He has such a loving personalty when he is near her.
In the presence of others he has this cold mask. But when she is around he is funny and sweet.
No one could understand his indecision. On the one hand his Family, his friends, everything he knew, and on the other hand the girl he loves. But so often he chose her. Besides her little dumb "Thing" with his stupid brother Maven, her betrayal, he never let her down. Even when she wasn't her-self, he loved her.
And to all the people who are Team Maven. Yeah, of course it is your opinion. But damn, i can't understand your point of view at ALL. He is a monster! And yeah, i know your Argument "It was the influence of his mother" blah blah. But it "WAS"!!!!! She is dead now, and he still acts like a dumbass child who didn't get his sweets. The truth is that he is jealous!!! He did so many bad things, nobody is gonna forgive him! I hope Victoria Aveyard does me a favor and lets Maven DIE.
And for all those who still have hope that Maven and Mare are gonna be endgame. Sorry to disappoint you, but that's not gonna happen! Even if Cal broke her heart at the end of King's Cage, they will figure it out. But Maven did things much worse!!!!! How can you like a guy who is killing baby's! Screw you Maven I HOPE you DIE!
And even if Mare has this "Thing" for Maven, she loves Cal. Cal is the only one!
Prove:
“I thought I knew what heartbreak was. I thought that was what Maven did to me. When he stood and left me kneeling. When he told me everything I ever thought him to be was a lie. But then, I believed I loved him.

I know now, I didn't know what love was. Or what even the echo of heartbreak felt like.

To stand in front of a person who is your whole world and be told you are not enough. You are not the choice. You are a shadow to the person who is your sun.”

or:

"I still remember every heartbeat we shared. The feel of him pressed up against me as we slept, alone together, trading nightmares. His hand at my neck, flesh on flesh, making me look at him as we dropped from the sky. What he smells like. What he tastes like. I love your brother, Maven. You were right. You are only a shadow, and who looks at shadows when they have flame? Who would ever choose a monster over a god."

I hate Maven so much. He is an arrogant idiot. I hope he finds out that Mare and Cal slept with each other.

#TeamCalForeverEverEver
z ugh same i really want maven to pull a Warner/Rhysand if ya know what i mean lol. like at first i suspected he would turn out to be working with Elara after all but i wanted to like him so it was sad when it turned out to be true. HOWEVER i still haven't given up on him and The Kings Cage actually makes me love him more but idk tho. Aand even tho cal seemed cool at first i hate how he cant just pick a damn side already tho in TCK he was starting to grow onto me until he just had to ruin it all at the end. i mean hey i was trying to give him a chance regardless of my love for maven and heck i wouldv been ok with him with mare as long as maven still got the happy ending he deserved coz hes my precious cinnamon roll ok. BUT NOO Cal just HAD to be the idiot he is n i hate him sfm rn ugh i just felt like ranting coz i legit only finished the third book yesterday so yeaa..



#TEAMMAVENFORLIFEE

#SCREWUCAL
gemtreize Team maven since the beginning till the end
Adriana Team Cal because she liked him way before she liked Maven. Plus, she only fell for Maven because his mom got in her brain and found out all the things that she was looking for in a guy.
Sibby (Novelties) #TEAMMARE tyvfm. After reading King's Cage, I could smack the both of these brothers right now.
Highlight2017
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Rainy Day Reads
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Grace G. M-A-V-E-N! Always Maven. Maven and Mare forever! I honestly feel like Maven is just putting on a show.
Diana Cal has always loved Mare from the beginning to the end. There is not doubt about that. Cal and Mare deserve to be with each other.
Jorilyn Gaa Team Maven all the way! I don't know why, but even though Maven's character is bad I can't help but feel sorry and love him at the same time. How I wish Maven will change at the end (when will it end?). Besides, it's evident that he loves Mare (in his own sick way, of course) but I think his feeling is more real than Cal's. HAHAHAHA
Adry Grace I... uh... *cries* I've liked Maven from the beginning, never did care for Cal all that much. And Maven's character is deep and fascinating and thrilling and terrifying. But idk who I ship Mare with. I love Mare and Maven's relationship, as dark and light, the mutual obsession (though for very different reasons) At the same time, it almost feels cruel to want her to be with Maven. But then *SPOILERS* Cal just up and left her, chose the crown over her not once but twice and idk. idk man.
Caroline Team Maven all the way. Cal's sweet and all but like, Maven is so confusing and mysterious and I think he's not as evil as everyone believes him to be.
Hasna Personally I don't mind but I'd like to see a better side of Maven.
Ariane Tucker Team Kilorn. Cal and Mare are for sure not meant for each other;
Emily Elizabeth Maybe she will actually become the Red Queen! PLOT TWIST!!!
Rose RS I've been going back and forth since the beginning because of all the betrayals. In Glass Sword I was on team Cal, but then Maven captured Mare, and while she was a prisoner I started to like Maven again. But then Cal saved her and I was on team Cal again. If I had to choose after finishing Kings Cage I would choose Maven. Because we never really have gotten to see the real him yet. His mother tortured and manipulated him, and practically made every choose for him. In Kings Cage we actually got to see him make his own choices, but he was still following in his mothers footsteps and her plan. I want to see and learn more about HIM not his mother's version of him. Like Cal said I hope he can be helped by a newblood that is like a whisper. I am looking forward to seeing the real him in the future. #TeamMaven
Pickles, Pickles, And More Pickles Cal is a stereotypical, bland, noble wannabee. I swear, if he doesn't die soon, I'm going throw the series into a bonfire and burn it.
Maven, however, is BEAUTIFUL. He's just so... chillingly attractive.
GAHHH CAL IS A BRAT.
Mare acts so defenseless and stupid around him, and GAH CAN SOMEONE JUST KILL CAL??? Like seriously, what an idiotic nickname.
Also, Elara is kewl. RIP SAMSON.
How about TEAM SAMSON???
Maven's still better.
DEATH TO CAL.
Pricilia Phantomhive Team maven! Mare & maven got this chemistry <3 while cal is the typical boring boy who obeys what he was told to do.. no offense to yall cal lovers *winky face*
Kiari Vaillette I like them both, at times I like Maven better but at other times I like Cal better. They're both pretty good though.
Mónica Gutiérrez Team Cal because it's like destiny for them to meet each other, Cal save her more than Maven, even when the queen said that Mare has to marry Maven, Cal is like: pls no, I love her.
Lexi Team cal, I dont think that I would like a guy who treats me the way that maven is treating mare, and the fact that cal is the one who liked mare even berfore all the other bad stuff happened and why would she go for maven when he kept her prisoner?! that just makes no since to me.
Alexia Team Cal, Maven's a jealous jerk and a mama's boy (not that there's anything wrong with loving your mother). Maven also prades Mare around lost a dog, trophy, or prize in Glass Sword. It's not right. In the first book i was on team Maven, but not anymore.
Emily SPOILER!!!!
I like Cal at the beginning of the first book. Then I fell in love with Maven and shipped Mare and Maven hard. Then Maven turned out to be evil, evident of him betraying Mare. Then there's Cal in Glass Sword so I love him then. But then Maven confessed that the reason he was like this was because of his mother's tampering. But then he wouldn't let her go. And then she was back with Cal. But then Cal betrayed her and everything went to crap!
I DON'T KNOW WHO TO PICK! SOMEBODY HELP ME!
linda Team Maven ... because he is just a more interesting character in my opinion and I also do not think that he is entirely bad.
Mondo Cal just doesn't do it for me. Too simple. Maven, on the other hand, is more complex and mysterious, especially now that we know about that whole "mother and my brain" mishap. He feels like a character with a chance to correct and redeem while Cal is just a spoiled prince who had an easy life and struggles to choose. (struggle, i.e. you remember the ending of King's Cage)
Sarah he's treating her like a dog like ???
Raven Roth (SPOILER ALERT)

Well, after read the first book...I fall in love deeper with Maven instead of feeling brokenhearted after his betrayal. He is so complex, so unreadable, so hard to understand. Well, he's fragile too. I know, deep inside, there's still a little light in his heart.

I hate Cal for some reason, I mean he's too boring. He's like the usually-perfect-man-king-figure who always get the girl and I always see that kind of guy in any romance novel. He so easy to guess. I was expecting some different sensation while reading King's Cage (with my expectations by reading Mareven intimate moments or maybe think this time VA would make Mare choose him) but the epilogue is so...arrrkgh! (It's fulfill my expectations and I scream in victory when I read Cal's betrayal).

People who hate Maven are people who don't really understand him. He's not evil, he's just get a wrong way raised by his Mother. No one is born evil.

I miss the old Maven, or maybe the unreal Maven. Even if he's a monster, blinded by Elara's influence, he's still the fragile Prince, the shadow of the flame who always be a star in my list of my favorite charas. So you know my Team now.

#TeamMaven
#HateUCal
#SorryCalButYou'reTooBoring
#ScrewYouCal
#Maven4Life

Even VA said that Maven is her second favorite character.
carinne Maven is a Psychopath who kills babies. Unless that baby was dead already, Screw Maven.
Barbara
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Matina:))) #TEAMMAVENFOREVER!!!!
T I am personally team Maven tbh, I don't support his destructive and cruel behavior, and I don't make excuses for the terrible things he's done, but I feel for him so much. He and Mare are both broken people, so either they can help each other, or be a disaster, but I do love Cal. I'll be happy either way, I'm just holding on to Maven a little longer.
Marian Between them, I would choose Maven; he is incredibly sexy despite being a heartless little shit. Cal, I think, is too boring and apprehensive.

But I think the best option for Mare would be to stand on her own. She doesn't need a man to succeed, she is strong all by herself. Nor Maven, Kilorn or Cal deserve her.
tessa You know, King's Cage left me feeling pretty uneasy but at the end of the day, #TeamCal, though I ship Kilorn with myself undoubtedly. I can't get over the things Maven has done to Mare. He has a pretty sick version of love because of Elara or whatever, but... I'm not sure that justifies anything and I'm not even sure "fixing" him will change things, at least for me. If someone paraded you around like a dog and then magically morphed into someone else, would that be enough for you? He's literally caused Mare so much pain. Admittedly so I found myself pretty enchanted by him, but I stand firm with Cal all the way to the throne. Mare's an idiot. He'd make a wonderful king.
Kristin Well, Cal is spineless and prejudiced. Maven is bat-shit crazy. I'm hoping a third guy shows up in the next installment or else Mare doesn't find a love interest in this series. I believe in love for Mare later on, once she's over these two cretins. Also, once she becomes a little less prejudiced herself. She hates Silvers. That's dumb. Just because they were born to privilege doesn't mean they all suck. #TeamNeedStrongerMaleLoveInterests over here.
Yanely Murillo S P O I L E R S

It's been a roller-coaster, you know? I was team maven when I read RQ even though I figure he would betray her and she met Cal first. But then I read GS(RIP shade) and that... *takes a deep breath* phew wellll let's just say I started making ship names for Cal and Mare despite their relationship bumps and flaws, I believed in them. Then I read KC and I was neutral.
Like I can't see Mare w either of them anymore.
Maven has some real issues , and sure his mom cost most of them but Mare won't heal from her expirenice there like she's traumatized. But I do believe Maven does really love her and will do anything for her.
Cal on the other hand won't. Sure he loves her too but hello he choose the crown over her not once but twice. The second time he was coming around, standing up for reds and that's Nobel and all....*whiny voice* but still!
So I'm team Mare cause Mare's fab. So is Kilron but he's w me already.
Fluffy I honestly have no clue who Mare will pick. I think that Tyton - the lightning power guy who can go into people's brains and make them have a seizure or whatever - will turn Maven back into his normal self.

Samos, Calore, Cygnet, the Rift, Norta, and the Lakelands may have a war and Cal and/or Maven will die. I think Mare will choose Maven or neither of them because she already broke up with Cal. I was really rooting for Cal too. :)
Maks Javinar If I were to choose for me, I would choose Maven because I am fascinated in Him even though he is described as this twisted monster who is hungry for power. Cal for me is a bit boring like he is this default character in a fairy tale book. But I would say that I'd be very happy whoever Mare end up with because she'll be happy whether it's Maven Cal or Kilron for that matter :)
Sarah
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Ulysses Team Maven because you could argue that he's the underdog. Cal has always been the golden boy, the one who girls dance with, the one who was meant to be king. However, Maven was the one who dealt with things that I doubt Cal would be able to survive. He had parts of him cut out by his mother, relationships twisted, and through it all, we still see flickers of the boy who Mare thought was constant. Cal is always seen as indecisive, as dutybound, and destined to rule. And, Mare is right. He is all of those things, but he's also the sort of person who would leave Mare at the simple command of someone. He would never fight for Mare if he was given a choice between the throne and Mare. Maven? He would kill and commit horrendous atrocities just to be able to know that Mare is close by and safe. He doesn't even need her to love him, while he certainly wants her to, he just is happy to know that she is there.
Ramneek I started out as team cal, but then I leaned more towards team maven. I think maven's broken mind can be fixed and if so, i definitely want him and mare to be together, but I feel that poor mare has been through so much, and, after King's Cage, Cal just seems like a big baby to me who wants(SPOILER) to have both Mare and the throne, and he knows he can't get either. I honestly think Mare should continue with her strong female personality and be on her own unless one of the two boys redeem themselves, which I find highly unlikely, since they have both "broken" her to an extent where she might not be able to feel love anymore. They need to prove themselves to her. For now #teamMare is my answer.
Graxia Please let it be Cal. Please. Please. Please.
Alyssa Hernandez Team Mare. Both Maven and Cal hurt her, therefore have hurt me, so they can be slapped several times and walk through a valley of Legos barefooted!

#TeamMare
Alaa Team Cal from the first moment!! Pleaseeee Cal :'(
Angela
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
smelina Team Cal FTW!! let's face it, they will be together in the fourth book
Sara Sullivan I'm in the middle. Maven did horrible things to Mare, but he does care about her, in his own twisted way. He lied to her time and time again. He branded her as his (Who the f does that?!) But, you can see that he was treated horribly by his mother, twisting him and molding him to her own horrible image. Cal, as Mare said, is a good person at heart, he is just unwilling to change, and truly see the dawn.
Tracy I don't like any of them. I hope they all die.
Viky All of you who said Maven... NO!!!
It has always been and always will be Mare and Cal... They are meant to be together.
If you reading kings cage then you KNOW what happened in the forest between mare and cal. So now that happened (lol) in this book probably mare is going to be pregnant or something like that that will be an excuse for cal and mare to be together FOREVER.
Or cal will notice his mistake and take back mare
Kyra #teamIDK because I understand that from the beginning Cal has always had feelings for Mare and the other way around, but honestly I kinda ship Maven and Mare. Cal is a bit to boring when it comes to love and hardship, but Maven is interesting considering what he has done and what he feels for Mare.
Irradiant
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Mk TEAM FREAKING MAVEN PLEASE <3
Jessie Jiang Team Maven because I am loyal to a fault for my initial ships. Even though, he is a terrible person I still love him as a character and with Mare. I'd rather Mare end up with no one if she doesn't end up with Maven.
Alicia Team Maven all the way! 😍💕 #teammaven ////but really what about Kilorn?
Kalin It's honestly a really close tie. They've both done things to hurt her, and betray her. But I really feel that either one could turn out beautiful, or as a beautiful disaster. I'm beginning to lean slightly more towards Maven. But I guess we'll just see how War Storm changes that.
3453 I choose team Cal because in book 1 at the bowl of bones Cal vows to protect Mare as long as he can. As soon as I met Maven I was on his team then we found out that he was just using Mare and the Scarlet Guard, so then Cal saved her and then I finally decided I was team Cal. Even though Cal does betray Mare at the end of Kings Cage but I believe that Cal will make the right decision and change the world from Red vs. silver and Make Mare his RED QUEEN!
Kiersten I honestly don't know who to pick. Maven shows some of his good side in King's Cage. But then Cal had to go and betray Mare. Ugh! I was back and forth through the whole series. I hope the 4th installment starts off months or years later so Mare has time to get over the brothers and finds a new man that understands and loves her, and most of all is not afraid of her.
Ellie Team maven. Cal doesn’t deserve mare after what he did to her.
Fabiola Rodriguez #TeamMaven4Ever
Klesentine I fell for team Maven (SPOILER) when he was talking with Mare and told her about it was the only way to keep her with him. Although I hate the way the two betray Mare so I'll go with team Mare
Foenix Honestly, I hope she goes with no one. At least not by the end of the book. Maybe some guy after the series ends that we never get to meet. Because at the way Maven is going, I feel like he's at the point of no return (I still find him an intriguing character though) and Cal not only chose power over her (I don't really blame too much because that's like having to choose between the girl you like and the job you've dreamed of getting your entire life), Cal is also a little boring. I like reading about the tough, bad boy types but Cal just didn't do it for me. He and her are way too different in their ideals and life prospects. They only care for their own blood. Mare takes marriage seriously and wants it to be about love while Silvers use it for political means and keep the people they love as a side hoe. And I hate the girl ending up with the childhood best friend because its cliche and we don't get to see them explore all their relationships and chemistry or get to learn new things about them. So that means no Kilorn. So I'll be happy if either Mare ends up with some other new guy who she isn't childhood best friends/ hasn't betrayed her yet or she just doesn't choose anyone by the end of the book. But then there is also option c, which is she chooses a girl (Cameron, Farley?) But I won't expend too much of my thinking on it because although I like this series, it's not my favorite (that has to go to A Court of Thorns and Roses and also Six of Crows)
Claudia Vargas TEAM MAVEN all the way!! I like how maven is mysterious and theirs a different side to him that i hope gets explored more. I dont think he's as evil as people think. Between them, I would choose Maven, he's incredibly sexy despite being heartless which is understandable due to his psycho mother, Cal, I think, is too boring and apprehensive. Mare and Maven has this chemistry you can't help but put them together for those who are TEAM MAVEN
###TEAM MAVEN ALL THE WAYYYYYYY
Deea Team Cal because Maven is a creation Elara made him as Mare wished Him. And maybe Cal will not choose the crown . #calmare
I wish Cal and Mare together because they had so much time together, sleept , kiss , fought. AND I HOPE FOR A RED QEEN AND A SILVER KING. That's why it's the series named Red Queen. It has to be aRed queen named Mare Narrow and I hope a SILVER King that will choose her. A SILVER KING NAMED TIBERIAS CALORE THE VII
Annie Green Why Mare ends with no one? doesn't agree. Make Maven's obsession become real. It's one of treatment to erase Elara's influence.
#TeamMaven
Sasha
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Avery Team Maven...I feel so bad but team maven forever honestly. he just loves her so much
jenna I'm conflicted.
Dakota Peebler Team Cal!! Maven, the creepy baby killing dude is not good enough for Mare.
Daskiergrace
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Ashley I was team Cal until I read King's Cage. We get to see many sides of Maven in this book. : )
Kayla Team cal... He's the best!!
Emma I was team Cal throughout the whole series BUT I do believe Maven can somewhat be changed I don't really see Mare with either of them at this point.
P.S. For you guys saying that Maven truly loved Mare: you guys are forgetting that his brain was literally MANIPULATED so we can really tell for sure if he truly would've loved Mare (outside his twisted obsession with her) so I don't really ship them.
#TEAM FARLEY
Mikal I'm team Maven personally because it's not his fault he was a horrible person. It was his lunatic mothers. Also, Cal chose the crown over Mare, so he's not reliable or easy to like...
Susannah Olsen
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Lauren Chapelhow I also like the idea of Maven and Mare....but it's cos I'm twisted and i'd find a story of oppression, torture and kidnap with some kind of Stockholm syndrome more interesting than the happier 'the one she actually likes' alternative.
Honest Reviews Okay okay, I know Maven is made out to be really bad person.. However, I really shipped him and Mare wayy more than Cal. Upcoming spoiler** I also wished he hadn't died! Again I get hes evil and all but I wanted him to be fixed by the end of the book and have someone restore his mind. Possibly have Mare fall in love with him by then?.. And why did he loosen his grip on the knife when fighting Mare? Or was it just an accident? Anyways Team Maven.
Aspen TEAM CAL!! Cal is so unappreciated!
sbenson team tyton. i mean theyre both electricons, and just reread the way she describes him with all the detail about his jawline and stuff.
Owyn I JUST WANT TO HAVE AN HONEST DISCUSSION WITH SOMEONE WHO THINKS THAT MAVEN IS A DECENT PARTNER FOR MARE.

Like, hi, I love this book series a lot....but like, Maven is borderline psychotic. If not all the way. If there were to be any sort of "love", I would deem it Stockholm Syndrome, if anything.

Please, someone have a discussion with me about it, because I'm generally confused about folks who are on #TeamMaven
Omeillia Mcnab Maven and mare YASS
Lauriane Brodeur #teammare
at first i was team cal, but after what he did to mare at the end of king's cage, i can't be with him anymore. and i hate maven so

"I choose no one"
WM So far my journey trough the books.
Reading book 1: I`m team Maven...he seems nice...oh he comes out not as expected but thats okay I hope everything changes in book 2...
Book 2: Maven is still that nightmare... but thats okay I hope everything changes in book 3...
Book 3: Maven and Cal destroys everything..screw them both! I hope book 4 bring a new love interest!
Ria Orpe tBH I AGREE WITH YOU
MAVEN :)
Anthoulla I am team Cal. In the end of the book he asked to choose him but she turned away. He chose her he asked her to be his queen and she turned away that was he fault not his. He was right they could do great thing together but she left and let herself be used by Monthfront because in the end they are the ones controlling the game
Grace Team Cal for sure because Maven is just cruel. I know everybody is saying no he isn't all bad it was all Elara in his head but honestly he can't blame everything on her. He still kept Mare a prisoner killed multiple people to keep her there. Maybe if he let her go I would have my sympathy for his tortured pass but since he never did I ship Cal&Mare.
Sanja I have a problem - When Mare is into one brother, I cheer for another, throught these three books...
Isabella Team Cal all the way. Cal had loved her while Maven had an obsession with her. He thought that trapping her could make her obey and 'be his' I guess. Cal and Mare had a connection, not just chemistry. He spent six months sober because she wasn't by his side. And not to mention that Maven killed children. Mare never really loved him and it was more of a mutual bond between her and Maven. Nor did she experience heartbreak from him. He only betrayed her.
Cal on the other hand choose the crown over her in King's cage. But either ways they both end up together. Plus what Maven did to Mare scarred her emotionally and phiscally.

Cal also gave Mare a choice in King's Cage. Yet she said no to being his queen and anyone else's. She still had a little more love for Cal than Maven.

#TeamCalforever
hillary i dont like my answer but i prefer maven over cal. cal literally does not have a personality im sorry. even though maven is a pyscho i genuinely do not feel like cal had anything to him. truthfully, i think this entire story could've still worked (maybe, even better) without cal in the story. he was just boring and useless. not saying maven is a good person though. if i could make mare's choice in the end, my choice would be: mare leaves and gets therapy. bc she needs therapy; she doesn't need men.
Rose *SPOILERS*
I like Maven, but Team Cal all the way. Cal has loved Mare since the very beginning, and yeah, Maven did love Mare and it was a cute ship for a while, but then Elara had to ruin everything and now Maven is the worst. Maven killed a baby to try to win Mare over, and then when he finally took her prisoner (because she chose to be his prisoner or else Cal would die) HE KEPT HER ON A COLLAR AND LEASH. Then he tortured her with Samson, tortured her with Silent Stone, and waaaay more. HOWEVER, you also have Cal, who yeah, did kind of steal Mare from his own brother, but I mean he loved her. And every time one of them betrayed the other, they always grew back together. With Maven, after his betrayal, Maven and Mare never grew back together. Maven's mother tried to cut out his love for Mare, and it turned into an obsession. Maven and Mare never would have worked out. So, sorry to all of you Maven lovers, but Cal's the one for Mare.
#TeamCal
Robyn
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Avantika “I choose no one." ~ Mare Barrow

Neither Calore brother deserves her. Cal broke her heart AT LEAST 5 times. Maven has an obsession and broken mind. Not exactly capable for love.

#TeamMare

justaranno can i choose both? please?💔
Faisal I'm in chapter 10 so far, I don't know Maven at all but Cal hasn't stood out to me that much
Jordan Team Cal all the way!

I felt this way throughout the whole series, never wavered. Something about Maven just never really interested me in knowing if anything romantic would become of him and Mare. I know that some of the reviews talk about how "we don't really know much about Maven" or "there is so much to discover about him as a person", but all in all I think that if he were able to be changed and become "normal" that Mare and Maven would become good friends. Kinda like her and Kilorn! Maven would realize that his obsession was always his mother in his head and that he doesn't actually see her as someone he wants romantically. Even Mare, as I took it, loved the sweet boy that she knew was inside, but I don't think it was ever a romantic kind of love.

To me, Cal always felt like the best choice, someone I personally would choose! I enjoy how much I relate to his character personally. The books do tell us a lot about Cal, but I would like to know who is he when he's not in battle 24/7? I want to know what that looks like. What his and Mare's relationship is like when they don't have a war or Maven to bound them together.

To me, Mare and Cal are a perfect match! Ones weakness is the others strength! Example, Cal's indecisive while Mare knows what she wants and does not hesitate. My own relationship in real life is like this which is probably why I ship Cal and Mare together. They are stronger together!
Jordan Team Cal all the way!

I felt this way throughout the whole series, never wavered. Something about Maven just never really interested me in knowing if anything romantic would become of him and Mare. I know that some of the reviews talk about how "we don't really know much about Maven" or "there is so much to discover about him as a person", but all in all I think that if he were able to be changed and become "normal" that Mare and Maven would become good friends. Kinda like her and Kilorn! Maven would realize that his obsession was always his mother in his head and that he doesn't actually see her as someone he wants romantically. Even Mare, as I took it, loved the sweet boy that she knew was inside, but I don't think it was ever a romantic kind of love.

To me, Cal always felt like the best choice, someone I personally would choose! I enjoy how much I relate to his character personally. The books do tell us a lot about Cal, but I would like to know who is he when he's not in battle 24/7? I want to know what that looks like. What his and Mare's relationship is like when they don't have a war or Maven to bound them together.

To me, Mare and Cal are a perfect match! Ones weakness is the others strength! Example, Cal's indecisive while Mare knows what she wants and does not hesitate. My own relationship in real life is like this which is probably why I ship Cal and Mare together. They are stronger together!
Abby Busch OK BUT- the part where Maven is taking a bath and he leans his head back- MARE HAD A CHANCE
Tieno Nah... Maven can Mare wouldn't ever really work. It's so obvious since Book 1 that she was always going to end up with Cal! But, with that being said, I agree with you. I don't buy the whole "Maven-is-all-bad" thing. I feel like Mare tried to force that idea on us through her POV and so did the other POVs I guess, but you cannot tell me that just because someone is broken means that they don't deserve redemption -- especially when it's not their fault. Yes, Maven did terrible things. Yes, he should pay the consequences... but did he deserve to die for the way that his mother twisted him?

Mare says that it's his own fault for making his decisions, but... was it? Until the end, a part of him still wondered and still cared. Can she imagine what it's like to have no one and to feel no love? What an empty world that would be! She has ALWAYS had someone. She doesn't know, nor does she have the right to say that it was his decision.
Maddie so first book I was for sure teem maven. Then Cal. Then Maven. Then Cal. And after reading War storm I really just don't know anymore
Bethany I'm team Maven I can tell he's attractive.
NatTheRatFace The thing is I have a prediction that in the end, IF mare does forgive Cal, they would be together, so when people say their team Maven, yall MAY be disappointed on the story. (though take note that I have not finished this book yet)
Bree Larsen
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Reader 100% TEAM MAVEN!!! He is the my absolute favorite character in the series and he is such a complicated, in depth, and for some reason sooo likable! He and Mare would be so much better for each other instead of Cal.... no offense, but I hated Cal. He was basic, selfish, spoiled and he isn’t at all as likable as Maven. Maven is perfect when Cal is a jerk. The only reason Maven acts the way he does is because his mother messed with his head.
Mahshid personally I hate both of them.
the only thing they are good at is; betrayal
Cadence
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Isobel Sapphire Team Tyton
(That brain lightning dude)
Whatever Team Maven.
Cal is boring. Maven has such a sad story.
n* Team Maven. Cal is too much of a golden boy, and whenever I think of Red Queen, it's Maven I think of, not Cal. Besides. That last part in War Storm had me in pieces.
"They seemed sad and...satisfied."
By then, I was sobbing, because I nearly ship Mareven harder than Feysand. That's saying something.
Saamia Screw Maven. Screw Cal. I hope you both die. Team Mare. Possibly Team Kilhorn but Kilhorn is too good for Mare. So, in conclusion, Team Mare forever.
Elizabeth Allen Cal.... because Maven is an abusive psychopath and should not be romanticized.
Audrey I realize that so many people like Maven and I don't get why. He is an absolute monster. Cal only did what he thought was right but he never would hurt Mare. Maven literally destroyed her and tried killing her multiple times. He was just too broken. Plus, Victoria obviously set up Mare and Cal since the first book. They had a spark. They knew they were each others soul mates no matter what happened. "i KnOw IM nOt sUppOSed to GivE mY OpINIon, BUt--" -Poppy Gloria #pewdiepue
Ariya Completely Team Maven.
Maven is my mentally-broken teddy bear <3
Theodosia Team Cal.
"What are you?"
"I am what you want me to be"
Sierra I ship Maven and Mare for a few reasons. First, Maven is compelling. Secondly, I don't really care what happens to Mare one way or another so her choosing a pyscho doesn't really bother me. Sometimes it's interesting when a character chooses blind love and probably destruction. I didn't however want him to be with Iris or Evangeline. They deserve better! I guess I liked them more than Mare. Also, Mare being with Cal only solidifies the rumors that she is controlling him. They are so wrong for each other.
Anusha Okay, so, I hate Maven. Like, hate him. Because I don't understand how people can still ship him with Mare after what he did to her! But then Cal on the other hand, is great for Mare, because they are both flawed in so many ways, but they would never stoop as low as Maven. And I'm not buying the whole Elara thing with Maven, because he could've been nice after she died. But Cal is just really great for Mare, because they're both so stubborn. Honestly, I never really liked Maven because his character was too fakely perfect at the beginning, and it was so wrong. And yes, I was disappointed with Cal at the end of King's Cage, but hey, it's better than what maven did. So clearly- #TeamMarecal
lotus ✧˚ · . TEAM CAL! (And Mare ofc)

Maven is a heartless **MONSTER** and shipping him with Mare is just.. a no. I understand that a lot of RQ Fans think that Maven is more similar to Mare (and that Maven is much better than Cal in some way) than Cal, therefore they should be together, but even if it's true, Maven has done *awful* things and he doesn't deserve Mare one bit. Plus, (SPOILER) Maven already died in War Storm.
Mad93 #TeamMare but at the end...#TeamCal too
Ava Vendittelli Team Maven all the way! Cal has nothing to him
A Team Maven... He's the victim.
Erika Team Cal all the way. People here keep saying you never know the real Maven because his mom manipulated him but I disagree with that. I think he is full of anger and hides behind his mother shadow but it’s an excuse, a poor one. You are what you are, little bastard, stop blaming your mother. Cal has a duty and a heart and the poor kid is struggling between what he has to do, what he can do and what he wants to do.
Maria Eduarda I don’t chose anyone .
I , personally , don’t like mare . I prefer Evangeline or iris , more Evangeline I think ....
I think maven deserves a better girl who love him , not mare . I shipp maven and iris , they are a good couple .
But I hope my sweet baby maven , can be “save” of elara merandus’s hands .
Mrsbooks I always found Maven more interesting and I think it would have been neat had the author explored that aspect. However I felt it was mapped out from the beginning that Cal was supposed to be it.
Charlie
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Jessica Team Cal, here - for the simple reason that Cal seems willing to grow and change, and Maven...Maven is unrepairable mentally.
Sundas Team Maven all the way baby
Laura TEAM CAL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alisset Serrato After reading war storm, i ship Tyton and Mare.
Jules Everworth Team Maven. Maven is just...how do I explain this...better...but Mare doesn't deserve Maven...So, I guess Cal x Mare is a thing...but Maven is better.
niki
This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)
Ayja #Team Maven give Maven a chance he deserves it
Fiona Team Cal because he isn't abusive and didn't kill babies. Of course, I think Maven is a more complex character, and I definitely don't hate him, but the way that he treated Mare was inexcusable. I just can't ship them; I can ship Maven with Thomas but not with Mare. What he did to her was a bit too... much.
I'll just also remind everyone that VA said, "A lot of people are very “Team Maven” and love him, want him redeemed; they want Mare to fix him, and I was really taken aback by that reaction because it’s not at all something I support or want to see. But at the same time I don’t hate him. I understand why he is the way he is, and that’s why I want people to do that, too."
Jenna Lankford Ok. I am conflicted when it comes to this question. I absolutely love Mare and Cal together. They are the power couple and I love them to death omg. I don´t really mind Mare and Maven, it´s just that if Mare couldn´t be with Cal, I´d want Kilorn to be with her. I swear if the book doesn´t end with the line:
¨He´s my Silver King. And I am his Red Queen.¨
I´m gonna scream. I love Mare and Cal together so much. (SPOILER) When he broke her heart in KC I honest to god was crying. I hate Maven as a character, but I feel if he ended up with Mare, they wouldn´t need to get a whisper to change him.
So yeah. Team Cal or Kilorn... but mostly Cal. I feel like he has the biggest chance.
HY360 I ship Maven and Mare. I mean, if I can forgive Maven for all the bad things he's done, then so can she.
Emma Rose I HATE MAVEN!!! Cal is such an amazing wonderful human being and no one seems to see it but me. I liked Maven okay in the beginning but after the end of Red Queen, I was just done with him. I'm like: you had one chance and you continue to hurt her. That's not love. I don't get how what Cal did is a betrayal. If I was Mare I'd be like: Good for you. do I care, not really. I feel like they both overreacted at the end of King's Cage. But to sum this love answer up, I hate maven and love Cal.
Aamna Imran i can't choose. ugh i can't wait for war storm. #teammare
Valerie At this point I'm Team Mare.
I was rooting for Cal, but a lot has to happen before I forgive him.
I don't understand why someone would ship Mare with Maven though. I mean, yes, in the first book, but now? He basically terrorized her throughout Book 2 and 3, made her a prisoner in her own skin, and you want to put her back with her abuser? Are you reading the same story? Mare still has PTSD from that experience!
I'm not saying Maven is beyond redemption, I'm saying he has no business tearing open Mare's scar tissue just so he can become better. Mare deserves better than any of these two.
Booklover2000 Neither of them, both are huge jerks Mare deserves better than any of them.
Sonja Well, as I read through everyone elses posts, I think someone is going to be disappointed....Victoria Aveyard needs to do a really good job by bringing this story to an end!
Cal or Maven - I have know idea. I think Maven is probably going to die while doing something heroic for Mare. Cal was Mare's first love interest so they eventually will end up together.
Again: War storm better be blody brilliant like I know Aveyard can do it!
Kylie Bryant There's no rational reason to ship Mare and Maven. For God sakes, Maven kills babies! Set the bar a little higher people..
Cal doesn't speak much but I'm still team Cal <3
A.Roma &#x1f1f5;&#x1f1f8; TeamMaven definitely!!
Alya Dhiva #TeamCal since the beginning and will always be :)
Gwendolyn Szabo Team Mavin.
No matter what he does I still believe he has good inside of him. I can't give up on him. He's honestly my precious cinnamon roll.
Sonja i want her to end up with cal but i don't think that would be a good ending it would be far to sweet and 'happily ever after'. it just doesn't fit the books.
but maven is still a disrupted human being which is not capable of truely loving some one. even if he get's his mind fixed, he has done things that can't be undone. Mare is someone that might be destined to be allone. I know this sounds sad, that's why i said i hope Cal does a 180 and comes back because he was the only one who truely understood her pain and love could love her.

i am just so exited for the last part of this serie
Rosalia Rodriguez I say we need more info, I support Cal and Mare, Mare and Maven, and Mare and Kilorn, I can't choose.
Jasmine i love your answer
Jasmine After reading the three books, I personally became uncertain. team maven or team cal, i really not sure with both. but, deep in my heart, i really hope that cal and mare can be together. and again, I have to remember Aveyard's words about, "silver and red can't be united in a lovers relationship." As if waking up after remembering it, I doubt if they will end up as I want?
Mariana I was thinking the same think while i was readind King's Cage.

But I don't know i guess i love them both.
But i love a little bit more Cal.
But Mavenn......

I don't know *tears*
Castille Dennison SPOILERS AHEAD
Team Mare because Maven is evil, and yes, partially this is a product of what his mother did to him, but it doesn't change who he is, and what he still does after his mom dies. Cal, on the other hand, seems good in his heart, but come on, he chose power over Mare. So he doesn't deserve her. Besides, this isn't the first time Cal chose something over Mare, so it won't be the last. And MAVEN TORTURED HER!!! I'm sorry but there is no way I'd except her falling for him again. Maybe friendship if he proved himself, but nothing more.
Sayo After all the betrayal, lies, deception, manipulation,... idk anymore. First I was Team Maven, then Team Cal, then Team Kilhorn, then Team Cal again, then Team Maven again, then Team Cal again... and now I just don’t know. So now I’m just #TeamMare
samodivachka Team Maven all the way. And I totally agree that he is not all bad. He is misunderstood and broken. I hope he finds his true self again in War Storm. Though I don't believe Victoria Aveyard will let him do it... It will be a shame if he doesn't.
Catie Barrow I feel like everyone is going that way, even after reading King's Cage. He's still annoying but so is Mare ( a little) so it would be an annoying match but let's face it, we'd all be so much more satisfied.
Inferno Reaper I am sooooooo going for Maven BECAUSE he was her betrothed and she loved him and still does I hope they get back together and it is Mare and Maven Back together yay. Cal is not my favorite but it would be nice to see him find omeone besides mare that he likes.
Ardent || LoveArdent || Raya To be honest I love Maven x Mare, because I think that Mare can help Maven become whole again and fill in the gaps that his mother left, perhaps teach him to become a better person and how to love.
Katie Ng Team Cal/ Team Mare.
I was Team Maven in the first book but then the betrayal happens and I was Team Mare all the way.
And then I was team Cal in the second book because they just work so well together.
And in the Third book I was still team Cal but the epilogue exits so I am team Mare now. I just need Mare to be alone for a while and then she can choose Cal.
Cas obvi Mare is going to end up with Cal, it's just the way these series work. But personally, I'm #TeamMare she doesn't need any of them. Cal and Maven are both wrong for her. How about the story takes a twist and Mare ends up with Cameron? Anyone? ;)
Caoimhe I particularly do not have a say because they both care and want Mare. I kind of wanted Kilorn and Mare instead of the royals.
May #TeamMaven coz cal chose the crown not once but twice over mare and what has the crown ever done for him. and while maven isn't perfect he chose mare and that has to count for something. right? cal also can't chose a side and would be more than happy to leave the country with silver dominance while the reds fall to ruin
Julia The whole book, the theme has been the man doesn't choose her. Y'all still thinking team cal and maven? Heck NO! It's obviously team Kilorn. Kilorn has stood by her no matter what. He has never betrayed her, always chooses her, and loves her like crazy. For once I have faith the author will let the good guy win.
Image for War Storm
by Victoria Aveyard (Goodreads Author)
Rate this book
Clear rating

About Goodreads Q&A

Ask and answer questions about books!

You can pose questions to the Goodreads community with Reader Q&A, or ask your favorite author a question with Ask the Author.

See Featured Authors Answering Questions

Learn more