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General Fuckery > jonathan, i need your help! (Everyone's Captions), Not Visiting Belgium

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message 251: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments michael jackson's umbrella carrier didn't come with him to the afterlife. hell.


message 252: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments You mean he has to carry his own umbrella? That is disturbing.


message 253: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Be careful asking for help with your head, Bun. There's no telling what might happen.



Hieronymus Bosch


message 254: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments yes, that's how we turn wine into blood, the monk said, but don't tell anyone!


message 255: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments *waits for someone to make wizard of oz reference*


message 256: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments #302 - His straightforward request denied by the wizard, the tin man turned to trepanning for a heart, despite the Kansas preacher's objections.


message 257: by Jonathan (last edited May 06, 2011 03:30PM) (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Beholding that scene, they all backed away on the bench there...



Frederick Cayley Robinson


message 258: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Colonel Sanders couldn't believe the betrayal when the rest of the family shunned his offer of chicken for dinner, opting for the Olive Garden instead.


message 259: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments even the dog!


message 260: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments As a compromise, they decided to go to the tavern...and brought the dog too.



Jan Steen


message 261: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
Whiskers, not wanting to face another night of Balthazar groping Agnes's frontal and backal regions, had tried to hang himself from a crossbeam, but as usual the stool had proved too rickety.


message 262: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Whiskers resolved to ditch Balthazar and find a better class of owner.



Sir Edwin Henry Landseer


message 263: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Those horizontal creases must have been in fashion for a while. The two pictures are about 20 years apart, but the first depicts a period slightly earlier than the one in which it was painted.


message 264: by Jonathan (last edited May 06, 2011 06:54PM) (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments The first was painted later, around 1860 I think, but it's actually meant to be set in an earlier period (about 50 years prior), so I would guess that it's probably a mix of contemporary fashions and enough elements of older styles to make it credible to viewers of that time--but I'm no expert on 19th-century dresses, so I really can't pick out the details. The Landseer is indeed a conversation piece (or genre portrait) of Victoria and Albert at Windsor Castle.


message 265: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
I find the creases in the dress so odd. It's hard to imagine that they could be in fashion. I can't find anything about them in Seeing Through Clothes. Paul Barlow in Time Present and Time Past: The Art of John Everett Millais writes, "Domestic details are stressed, notably the rising damp which has caused the wallpaper to bubble beneath the print, and the heavy creases on the woman's dress, indicating how it has been folded. This is consciously 'Pre-Raphaelite', but it is also quite different from Millais's earlier use of observed detail. Both devises specify the vulnerability of domestic comfort. They do so while identifying the circumstances and conditions of day to day life: the protection of the dress and the forces bubbling up to violate the orderly home."


message 266: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
Wiki says Charles Dickens' daughter was the model for the woman in the creased dress.


message 267: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments #311 -- As their youngest daughter broke the neck of the final duck, Lord and Lady Cordry eyed each other longingly, thinking of the tawdry uses to which those feathers would be put to use that night.


message 268: by Jonathan (last edited May 06, 2011 07:18PM) (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments That the creases might have resulted from folding seems quite reasonable. I guess there must have been some accepted way of storing elaborate dresses like that. And perhaps showing them in Victoria's portrait was just a way of emphasizing that she was a simple person--didn't necessarily have her everyday clothes treated differently from other people's. A homespun image was generally her preference in her portraits, although there are some very formal ones from early in her reign as well. Anyway, I have a friend who studies 18th and 19th-century costume, and I'll ask her about this next time I see her. She'll probably know the answer.


message 269: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
Anne Hollander has another entire book about fabric and drapery, Fabric of Vision. Maybe she talks about it in there.


message 270: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
I'm not seeing significant creases in Victoria's dress. Some of those could be accidental, or because she was just sitting down. It's more the Millais dress I'm wondering about.


message 271: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments I'm glad that Phil hasn't gotten sidetracked from captioning like the rest of us.

Finding new and tawdry uses for duck feathers...



Salvador Dalí


message 272: by Jonathan (last edited May 06, 2011 07:49PM) (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "I'm not seeing significant creases in Victoria's dress. Some of those could be accidental, or because she was just sitting down. It's more the Millais dress I'm wondering about."

The Millais dress does seem odd, and the more I think about the creases, the less sense they make. Just looking at Clementina Hawarden's photographs from the 1860s, it doesn't seem like horizontal creases or pleats were normal--although, as you say, you do sometimes see a wrinkle here or there, as if from sitting.

http://www.google.com/search?q=clemen...

And the woman with the baguette on her head still needs a caption.


message 273: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
The only time I've seen creases that severe are:

1) man buys packaged dress shirt at store, doesn't know how to iron, wears with creases
2) my curtains from West Elm which arrived packaged in plastic, I didn't bother to iron them and I could see the creases for 2 years until gravity took care of them. I didn't want to iron them and possibly damage the fabric.


message 274: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
Having sold her clothes to buy the baguette and two ears of corn, Gwen was attempting to creep unseen among the hayricks when her arms were caught in the thresher. But tomorrow was another day, and she still had a head for all those raccoon caps.


message 275: by Jonathan (last edited May 06, 2011 07:59PM) (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Maybe the woman in the Millais painting is actually a man and doesn't know how to iron? (This would complicate the narrative somewhat but would be interesting.) Or maybe all of the servants suddenly gave notice, and she is waiting for gravity to take care of the wrinkles on her newly unpacked dress from 19th-century West Elm?


message 276: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Poor Gwen. Tomorrow is another day, and perhaps best to spend it indoors.



Gerard ter Borch


message 277: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
It does raise all sorts of interesting questions. Was that the dress Millais was presented with, and thus chose to paint exactly as is? The creases would give him an opportunity to show painterly virtuosity. Or was that some fictional detail he came up with to supply us with extra information about the narrative. Did they have hangers back then? From the standpoint of pure domesticity, it seems beyond odd to store a ball gown folded up. Surely those people were bourgeois enough to have a closet.

Hopefully your friend knows the answer.


message 278: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) Pocahontas thought the only way to fit into British society was to improve her posture by balancing a baguette and carved wooden ornament on her head. Unfortunately, it wasn't her posture that was her undoing. It was having four ears.


message 279: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
Wenceslaus tried to convince Ludmila that they really, really needed the 70 yards of aluminum in her dress for the clambake, as Mother sewed blue peacock feathers onto his celebratory codpiece.


message 280: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Four ears. I like that--it's funny.


message 281: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments That dog can't live outside, Bun. He runs an indoor business.



Cassius Marcellus Coolidge

By the way, I also liked the 70 yards of aluminum foil and the celebratory peacock codpiece, LG. But I couldn't think of a segue that wouldn't involve more Surrealism.


message 282: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) Let the chips fall where they may, but we have been dealt a lousy hand. We must go on strike for better kennel rations!


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) I don't have a caption, but all of those dogs seem to be pissed off at the dog on the left.


message 284: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments that bernard ain't no saint.


message 285: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments #338 - Usually when someone passed gas the humans blamed it on Rex. This time is really was him.


message 286: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments It was so intense, Kevin, some people thought it was a hydrogen bomb (...meaning also that Rex had first-strike capabilities, as Janice noted, and was no saint, just like Janine said).



George Hughes


message 287: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments ::runs off to google volary::


message 288: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments #343 - Both George and Barney were sure they saw the little shifu statue move and kept a sharp eye on it while what's-here-name just wouldn't shut up about whatever.


message 289: by Kevin (last edited May 07, 2011 12:11PM) (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments (jonathan - how about something from one of my favs Wayne Thiebaud)


message 290: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
Dogs playing poker: yet another argument for American exceptionalism. (not a caption, just a statement)


message 291: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalee) | 749 comments Kevin "El Liso Grande" wrote: "(jonathan - how about something from one of my favs Wayne Thiebaud)"

He's one of my faves, too!!


message 292: by Jonathan (last edited May 07, 2011 02:30PM) (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Well, it might have looked like a volary of ptarmigans or a moving shifu statuette, but apparently this was what caught George and Barney's eyes:



Wayne Theibaud

(I considered using a more characteristic Thiebaud image, Kevin, but worried it might be too difficult to narrate/caption a painting of ice cream and cake!)


message 293: by Jonathan (last edited May 07, 2011 02:27PM) (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "Dogs playing poker: yet another argument for American exceptionalism. (not a caption, just a statement)"

Poker is an American game, but anthropomorphic animals occur elsewhere in art. The 18th and 19th-century French did lots of pictures of monkeys playing card games, acting as art critics, politicians, etc.--very light-hearted stuff, much like the dogs playing poker, billiards, and baseball.


message 294: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24779 comments Mod
As Doris and Wanda learned to their chagrin, peeing in the pool was not cool at the Thirtyone Palms Country Club. After crawling around the pool on your knees, you had to clean the filters with cotton swabs and rake all the sand traps.


message 295: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I actually had #302 as my profile picture for a short while.


message 296: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Lobstergirl wrote: "Dogs playing poker: yet another argument for American exceptionalism. (not a caption, just a statement)"

How true.


message 297: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments #351 - As a girl Sarah and her friend Debbie were punished in swim class for lying about stuff like how many laps they swam, if they showered and if they could see Russia from their house?


message 298: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments jonathan - on a more serious note i am really enjoying you sharing your vast knowledge with us about these paintings. though i am a wise guy generally i do appreciate it. and yes, thiebaud does have some very simplistic subject matter but i like how bold and freeing the colors and strokes are.


message 299: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Jonathan is amazing for sure.


message 300: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4726 comments You're both too kind. I like Thiebaud's art a lot, Kevin. When he paints a slice of cake, it's mouthwatering. His figure paintings are good too, but until you just mentioned it, I never noticed how much both of those women kind of look like Sarah Palin--but they do.


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