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jonathan, i need your help! (Everyone's Captions), Not Visiting Belgium
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May 06, 2011 02:09PM

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Hieronymus Bosch


Whiskers, not wanting to face another night of Balthazar groping Agnes's frontal and backal regions, had tried to hang himself from a crossbeam, but as usual the stool had proved too rickety.


I find the creases in the dress so odd. It's hard to imagine that they could be in fashion. I can't find anything about them in Seeing Through Clothes. Paul Barlow in Time Present and Time Past: The Art of John Everett Millais writes, "Domestic details are stressed, notably the rising damp which has caused the wallpaper to bubble beneath the print, and the heavy creases on the woman's dress, indicating how it has been folded. This is consciously 'Pre-Raphaelite', but it is also quite different from Millais's earlier use of observed detail. Both devises specify the vulnerability of domestic comfort. They do so while identifying the circumstances and conditions of day to day life: the protection of the dress and the forces bubbling up to violate the orderly home."


Anne Hollander has another entire book about fabric and drapery, Fabric of Vision. Maybe she talks about it in there.
I'm not seeing significant creases in Victoria's dress. Some of those could be accidental, or because she was just sitting down. It's more the Millais dress I'm wondering about.

Finding new and tawdry uses for duck feathers...

Salvador Dalí

The Millais dress does seem odd, and the more I think about the creases, the less sense they make. Just looking at Clementina Hawarden's photographs from the 1860s, it doesn't seem like horizontal creases or pleats were normal--although, as you say, you do sometimes see a wrinkle here or there, as if from sitting.
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And the woman with the baguette on her head still needs a caption.
The only time I've seen creases that severe are:
1) man buys packaged dress shirt at store, doesn't know how to iron, wears with creases
2) my curtains from West Elm which arrived packaged in plastic, I didn't bother to iron them and I could see the creases for 2 years until gravity took care of them. I didn't want to iron them and possibly damage the fabric.
1) man buys packaged dress shirt at store, doesn't know how to iron, wears with creases
2) my curtains from West Elm which arrived packaged in plastic, I didn't bother to iron them and I could see the creases for 2 years until gravity took care of them. I didn't want to iron them and possibly damage the fabric.
Having sold her clothes to buy the baguette and two ears of corn, Gwen was attempting to creep unseen among the hayricks when her arms were caught in the thresher. But tomorrow was another day, and she still had a head for all those raccoon caps.

It does raise all sorts of interesting questions. Was that the dress Millais was presented with, and thus chose to paint exactly as is? The creases would give him an opportunity to show painterly virtuosity. Or was that some fictional detail he came up with to supply us with extra information about the narrative. Did they have hangers back then? From the standpoint of pure domesticity, it seems beyond odd to store a ball gown folded up. Surely those people were bourgeois enough to have a closet.
Hopefully your friend knows the answer.
Hopefully your friend knows the answer.

Wenceslaus tried to convince Ludmila that they really, really needed the 70 yards of aluminum in her dress for the clambake, as Mother sewed blue peacock feathers onto his celebratory codpiece.


Cassius Marcellus Coolidge
By the way, I also liked the 70 yards of aluminum foil and the celebratory peacock codpiece, LG. But I couldn't think of a segue that wouldn't involve more Surrealism.



George Hughes

Dogs playing poker: yet another argument for American exceptionalism. (not a caption, just a statement)

He's one of my faves, too!!


Wayne Theibaud
(I considered using a more characteristic Thiebaud image, Kevin, but worried it might be too difficult to narrate/caption a painting of ice cream and cake!)

Poker is an American game, but anthropomorphic animals occur elsewhere in art. The 18th and 19th-century French did lots of pictures of monkeys playing card games, acting as art critics, politicians, etc.--very light-hearted stuff, much like the dogs playing poker, billiards, and baseball.
As Doris and Wanda learned to their chagrin, peeing in the pool was not cool at the Thirtyone Palms Country Club. After crawling around the pool on your knees, you had to clean the filters with cotton swabs and rake all the sand traps.

How true.

