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Travis wrote: "Bragging point: I wrote a story for a Moorcock anthology.It had a member of the Von Bek family meeting the Nomad of time and hot air balloons traveling to the moon."
Which one? I might have it. 😼
Michael Moorcock's Legends of the multiverse.Tell your friends, buy lots of copies.
I have a kid in college.
This one: Michael Moorcock's Legends of the Multiverse? Yeah, it’s on my Amazon wishlist. I have this one already, this is one I thought it might be: Pawn of Chaos: Tales of the Eternal Champion. It keeps getting pushed down on my “to read” pile, so I haven’t gotten to it up yet. I’ll see what I can do. 😼
That's mine...and a couple other guys did stuff too.I keep hoping it'll do well enough for a volume 2.
Moorcock created so many great characters, I'd love to play with more of them.
I am a huge Moorcock fan. Elric’s my favorite, but there are so many interesting characters and worlds. When I send emails to my sci-fi/fantasy bookclub I always start them “Hello Fellow Travelers on the Roads Between the Other Worlds” or something like that. It’s a little nod to Moorcock’s Multiverse.
My only claim to professional publishing is about 5-6 pages from Mokole for White Wolf and their World of Darkness Werewolf the Apocalypse role-playing game. This was from the Changing Breeds series, and this volume was on people who could transform into something like dinosaurs or alligators/crocodiles instead of wolves. It was fun, but I’d rather have worked on Vampire the Masquerade, that was the game I was really in love with.
Rick wrote: "I am a huge Moorcock fan. Elric’s my favorite, but there are so many interesting characters and worlds. When I send emails to my sci-fi/fantasy bookclub I always start them “Hello Fellow Traveler..."
Liker so many readers, Elric was my gateway drug into the multi-verse.
Was amazed to find out how much stuff, characters and ideas there was.
One of those franchises where you could offer me almost any character and I'd be like 'Cool, sure!"
Travis wrote: "... One of those franchises where you could offer me almost any character and I'd be like 'Cool, sure!""Yeah, totally!
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While I dislike the idea of making pre-Hartnell Doctors canon, the idea of a prequel show, where you can't use post-Hartnell continuity but could use off hand comments about the Doctor having previously met a race or historical figure could be fun.Would writers be able to work within those limits?
If you can't use Daleks or Cybermen, who are your big bad?
How hard do you slap the first writer who thinks he's clever and can cheat?
It has possibilities...but, as fanfic, I still don't want it canon.
I LOVE the idea of a prequel show with earlier incarnations, and using those offhand references as story prompts and inspiration. Great concept. As for a big bad? Why not just create a new big bad that gets ultimately dealt with prior to the prequel series completion? But I’d also like the idea of doing more historical driven stories. Hmm, or the big bad could be something that makes people forget their pasts, like a monstrous Alzheimer’s entity. Thus each time The Doctor encounters this entity, they lose parts of their memory. The final way to defeat it is for The Doctor to give up almost all of their memories... hmm.
Yeah, this is my other issue with a Who prequel, is having to write memory loss into it.No matter how good those Doctors are, they get wiped away.
Which you know some writer will use as an excuse to cheat and bring in the Daleks or the Slitheen.
Like with the Star Wars prequels, knowing it ends badly kind of taints some of the fun of the idea of the story.
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If you're replying to the Forgotten Lives book, the stories within are ones written by the various authors for fanmags back in the day when we didn't have Fanfic.org or AO3, or A Teaspoon and an Open Mind (the only website dedicated to Who-fanfic that I'm aware of), so these stories date back to the 80s-90s.
No one's trying to make these particular Doctors canon any more than Big Finish tried to make their series of Unbound stories canon. This is more for the fun of speculating what if scenarios and wondering where things might have been different. Doctor Who is one of the most open format series of all the series we have, I think, precisely because there is no canon. Even the "official" story isn't that concrete and gets changed on a storyteller's whim in this series. The BBC isn't, thankfully, Paramount or Disney/Lucas.
Wasn't a specific reply...I got rambling, as I've seen a couple other articles talking about versions of this idea and my thoughts kind of smooshed together.I like the 'what if' aspect of the idea, but can't shake the dread as more people and places attempt to do stuff with it.
I can see the slippery slope and that can taint my sense of fun.
2020 has made me grumpy and cynical.
Rick wrote: "Well, then clearly you’re NOT satan ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KABSY..."
That was both cute and really messed up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KABSY..."
😈😄
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I like the 'what if' aspect of the ide..."
No problem. I am a little defensive too. My apologies.
Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "Wasn't a specific reply...I got rambling, as I've seen a couple other articles talking about versions of this idea and my thoughts kind of smooshed together.I like the 'what if' as..."
You didn't do anything.
My grumbling wasn't focused at anyone specific, just general comments/old man rambling.
I should have been clearer or separated the fun 'what if' stuff from the grumpy concerns about the scenario, into two separate posts.
That’s all I took any of this as: “old time lord grumblings.” 😼
Rick wrote: "That’s all I took any of this as: “old time lord grumblings.” 😼"I can do that too.
My daughter says Peter Capaldi is my Doctor, or at least the Doctor that reminds her most of me.
Not sure how I should take that...?
Travis wrote: "... Not sure how I should take that...?"As a compliment! Capaldi is AWESOME! Especially when he’s strumming his ax and rocking those sonic shades! Coolio! 😎 😻
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "... Not sure how I should take that...?"As a compliment! Capaldi is AWESOME! Especially when he’s strumming his ax and rocking those sonic shades! Coolio! 😎 😻"
We don't talk about the sonic sunglasses in my house.
We just pretend it didn't happen...
Like Highlander 2
Oh man! I LOVE the sonic sunglasses. It was the perfect absurd twist on the absurd sonic screwdriver (aka magic wand). I just wish I liked more of the Capaldi stories more. And I really didn’t like Clara, so that was a problem. Loved Bill though, she was great.
And I won’t even acknowledge that other film you mentioned.“There can be only one.”
Rick wrote: "Oh man! I LOVE the sonic sunglasses. It was the perfect absurd twist on the absurd sonic screwdriver (aka magic wand). I just wish I liked more of the Capaldi stories more. And I really didn’t li..."
my favorite character from the Lady Me two parter is the viking that breaks the sonic sunglasses in half.
Told my daughter I'd found my cosplay inspiration!
Rick wrote: "And I won’t even acknowledge that other film you mentioned.“There can be only one.”"
The TV show is fun, if you treat it like it's 'Earth 2 Highlander".
The movies...we do not speak off them.
Rick wrote: "Oh man! I LOVE the sonic sunglasses. It was the perfect absurd twist on the absurd sonic screwdriver (aka magic wand). I just wish I liked more of the Capaldi stories more. And I really didn’t li..."
Yeah, I get what Moffatt was trying to do with Clara, but it just didn't work or ran out of steam long before Moffatt was willing to finish the story, so by the end, she was unlikable and one of his legion of magic girls.
Travis wrote: "...breaks the sonic sunglasses in half...."Yeah, such a rude thing to do.
Travis wrote: "The TV show is fun, if you treat it like it's 'Earth 2 Highlander".The movies...we do not speak off them."
I do not speak of the series.
“There can be only one.”
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As for the Sonic Sunglasses - that was a great tragedy when they were destroyed. :0(
Much like Rose, Clara overstayed her welcome. I would prefer she never show up again.
Speaking of British sci-fi TV: Anybody watched the new seasons of Red Dwarf?Shaky start with the return mini, but seasons 10, 11 and 12 have been pretty solid.
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Shaky start with the return mini, but seasons 10, 11 and 12 have been pretty solid."
No, I have seen the most recent stuff. I'm not even sure where it would be broadcast/streamed (BritBox?).
Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "Speaking of British sci-fi TV: Anybody watched the new seasons of Red Dwarf?Shaky start with the return mini, but seasons 10, 11 and 12 have been pretty solid."
No, I have seen th..."
It's on Britbox.
Rick wrote: "I’ve not seen any of Red Dwarf."Worth checking out.
Great mix of clever and broad humor, likable cast and weird sci-fi ideas.
My daughter watches it just for the cat.
The Brits do funny sci-fi way better then we Americans.
Travis wrote: "Worth checking out. Great mix of clever and broad humor, likable cast and weird sci-fi ideas. My daughter watches it just for the cat. ..."For clever and broad humor with a likable cast weird sci-fi ideas, I offer up: Farscape. Which I just adore, and I’m currently in the middle of rewatching the 2nd season of.
But you had me at ... the cat. 😻
Farscape is great, and I need to get back to trying to finish it.Maybe after my Gerry Anderson rewatch.
I still haven’t started Year Two of Space 1999 in my rewatch of that series. There’s such a bipolar switch between the two seasons, I always feel like I need a nice long break between them when I rewatch them.
Great show, but yeah, the shift in tone between seasons is weird.Some good episodes, but season 2 trying to be Star Trek is kind of jarring.
and it's distracting, wondering where did the missing crew members go.
We know the actors left, but they lost like three people and never mention where they are.
Yeah, let’s lay blame where it belongs: Fred Freiberger. He was the producer of the season of Star Trek that killed that series. The producer for the second and final season of Space: 1999. And the producer of the last season of Six Million Dollar Man. The man was an incompetent menace. 😾
The low dry spell is over!I'm resuming the great rewatch.
Deadly Assassin : Remembered that is is a great story. Had forgotten it deserves being listed as a 'classic'.
One of the best representations of Galifry and the Time Lords, really clever political thriller, love the supporting cast and, while it's not Delgado, the Master is suitably creepy and menacing.
Also, interesting experiment to see a companion-less Doctor.
Travis wrote: "... Also, interesting experiment to see a companion-less Doctor."That’s what I really liked about that story. It gave Baker a chance to do the show how he wanted to be do all along. He’d said in many interviews that he wanted to have the Doctor without companions, and it irked him to no end to be saddled with a “crowed TARDIS” towards the end of his run. While I do generally prefer the “crowded TARDIS” it’s still nice to see the Doctor on his own.
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "... Also, interesting experiment to see a companion-less Doctor."That’s what I really liked about that story. It gave Baker a chance to do the show how he wanted to be do all along..."
It's fun, as an occasional thing, but a solo Doctor means companion of the week, like Tennant's last season and that doesn't work for long stretches.
Though, I do really like the Castellan and the archivist that help the Doctor. Good characters and good actors.Refreshing that his companions are two old guys.
BF should give them their own show.
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It had a member of the Von Bek family meeting the Nomad of time and hot air balloons traveling to the moon.