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Travis wrote: "I was thinking Pertwee as Holmes and Courtney as Watson."
This is what happens when you're in a hurry and thinking it would be fun to mix-up the dynamic a bit, and not paying close attention. 😊
However, yes, I agree. They had that going for them in the show, and I think they'd've had a blast doing Sherlock and Watson. Who for Lestraud?
This is what happens when you're in a hurry and thinking it would be fun to mix-up the dynamic a bit, and not paying close attention. 😊
However, yes, I agree. They had that going for them in the show, and I think they'd've had a blast doing Sherlock and Watson. Who for Lestraud?
Roger Delgado could be Lestraud. I like the idea of Troughton as Moriarty. John Levene?
We need a Mrs. Hudson (not Liz Sladen though, she needs something more active).
We need a Mrs. Hudson (not Liz Sladen though, she needs something more active).

Re: Mrs. Hudson: Maybe Katy Manning.

What characters/ideas deserved their own show?
My list:
Madam Vastra and company: How the BBC looked at these guys, and then decided to make 'Class', I'll never know.
Robots of Death: this Tom Baker story created a fascinating world, where society relies on robots just to keep going.
I'd like to see a version of the human/robot investigators from the story.
UNIT: any version. These guys deserve their own stories that show they can protect us, even without the Doctor.
Travis wrote: "UNIT: any version. These guys deserve their own stories that show they can protect us, even without the Doctor. "
Though I haven't listened to them, there is a whole series of UNIT stories out from Big Finish which have gotten good reviews.
https://www.bigfinish.com/search_resu...
I know - there's only so much a budget can take!
I gotta agree with you on Madame Vastra & Co. Class left a lot to be desired and all I can think was that they wanted an older version of The Sarah Jane Adventures or a younger version of Torchwood.
Unfortunately, they relied too much on the connection to Doctor Who and not on the characters who should have gotten more development. The stories too for that matter ... Much as I was disappointed by Torchwood (for a variety of reasons) and enjoyed what I saw of TSA, at least they each managed to carry its own weight in storytelling and character development.
"What characters/ideas deserved their own show?"
Huh. I'm going to be inclusive because that's how I see the Whoniverse:
A lot of the ones I would think about actually do have their own series spinoffs. Just because they're not on TV doesn't mean they don't count ...
While I'm no fan of either one of these ladies, both Dr. Bernice Summerfield and Dr. River Song have Big Finish series. Also Romana and Leela have the Gallifrey series.
There are a couple of stories featuring the original group - pre-UNIT - from Remembrance of the Daleks. Audio I think.
Ace maybe would have been fun to follow, even further than the New Adventures took her.
Fitz from the EDAs
Though I haven't listened to them, there is a whole series of UNIT stories out from Big Finish which have gotten good reviews.
https://www.bigfinish.com/search_resu...
I know - there's only so much a budget can take!

I gotta agree with you on Madame Vastra & Co. Class left a lot to be desired and all I can think was that they wanted an older version of The Sarah Jane Adventures or a younger version of Torchwood.
Unfortunately, they relied too much on the connection to Doctor Who and not on the characters who should have gotten more development. The stories too for that matter ... Much as I was disappointed by Torchwood (for a variety of reasons) and enjoyed what I saw of TSA, at least they each managed to carry its own weight in storytelling and character development.
"What characters/ideas deserved their own show?"
Huh. I'm going to be inclusive because that's how I see the Whoniverse:
A lot of the ones I would think about actually do have their own series spinoffs. Just because they're not on TV doesn't mean they don't count ...
While I'm no fan of either one of these ladies, both Dr. Bernice Summerfield and Dr. River Song have Big Finish series. Also Romana and Leela have the Gallifrey series.
There are a couple of stories featuring the original group - pre-UNIT - from Remembrance of the Daleks. Audio I think.
Ace maybe would have been fun to follow, even further than the New Adventures took her.
Fitz from the EDAs

My thoughts were all TV shows I wanted and I knew they were in no way connected to reality.
Travis wrote: "Yeah, I love what I've heard of Big Finish, but short of winning the lottery, there's no way I'll ever catch up.
My thoughts were all TV shows I wanted and I knew they were in no way connected to ..."
No worries. My brain is more book/audio oriented these days. LOL
My thoughts were all TV shows I wanted and I knew they were in no way connected to ..."
No worries. My brain is more book/audio oriented these days. LOL


Except, for some reason, it's really hard to find a copy of Mind of Evil.
Netflix doesn't have it and the DVD is pricey.
Anybody know why that is?
For some weird reason, it's the only Pertwee story I've had any trouble with.

Really nice, crazy energetic and annoyingly good looking and charming.
Travis wrote: "Got to attend John Barrowman's panel at a con and he is a force of nature!
Really nice, crazy energetic and annoyingly good looking and charming."
He strikes me as a guy who just genuinely enjoys just about everything he does.
Really nice, crazy energetic and annoyingly good looking and charming."
He strikes me as a guy who just genuinely enjoys just about everything he does.

So nice that they are filling in the gaps, but a bit annoyed that they are all huge hardcovers, as they look weird and out of place on the shelf with all my target paperbacks.
Pirate Planet: Why is this thing over 300pages?
Some nice bits, but the middle drags. Trim 50 pages out of this thing and it would be rock solid.
Do love the Tardis team characterization. Everyone sounds perfect.
Krikketmen: again, too big for a Who novelization and tries too hard to sound like Adams.
Again the Tardis team feels perfect. Especially Rommana one and K-9!
Fun to read, but I think I prefer the Hitchhiker's book.

I’ve recently caved and started in on Big Finish stuff. I’m really enjoying the The First Doctor Adventures and am working on getting as many of the audios for 8 as I can. In a lot of cases I set a mental price and keep a watchful eye for used copies that might turn up from reliable sellers on the webs. I’ve had surprisingly good luck. I’ve also been able to fill in a lot of pesky holes in the classic series arcs (you know, the ones that cost prohibitively expensive), but now they’re putting out season sets on Blu-ray that are much more economical. I’ve been donating my old dvds to my library or a friend.

Really nice, crazy energetic and annoyingly good looking and charming."
I would love to meet him some day.

I’ve recently caved and started in on Big Finish stuff. I’m really enjoying the The First Doctor Adventures a..."
I enjoyed Class also. I wish they were given a chance to make a wrap up episode/movie. I think for modern series that sort of thing would help satisfy the fandoms. Fans of many series are always left at the end of a series wanting a proper closure.

It looks pretty good. Not sure how hard it'll be to see/stream it, but I am looking forward to it.


It looks pretty good. Not sure how hard it'll be to see/stream it, but I am looking forward to it."
I had read/heard that Fry would be appearing this season. Looks like he is in the first episode (at least part one of it)

It was very nice.

It was very nice."
I did. Caught it first on a post from one of the DW Facebook groups. I think it was also recommended on my YouTube feed. I thought it was very clever.

First two Doctors are still missing episodes, which means I have graps to figure out and now I'm worried that netflix may be losing the rights and then I'll have to either track down other streaming options or buy the DVDs.
While my wife is happy at the prospect of owning all of new Who, how is she going to react to having to find a shelf for Tom Baker's entire ruin?

Disappearing from Netflix is likely as they’ll eventually want everyone going to Britbox to see the old episodes.
As for the lost episodes from the first two Doctors, I’ve been getting the audio recording box sets. They’ve been releasing new editions over the last year. Some of the stories included have since been rediscovered or animated and released on disc, but I don’t mind I’ve gotten to at least listen to things like Marco Polo and The Dalek Masterplan.

I'm okay with the animated ones, but not into the just audio or tele snap ones.
Can't tell if netflix is losing the rights or is lazy adding new ones.
They released a bunch of Troughton reconstructions and netflix has gotten maybe one.
I'll keep plugging along until I have to find a new streaming source.



That said, there's a 10 minute animated adaptation of its first episode on The Macra Terror release that was shown at a BFI event in June 2018. So maybe they abandoned the project and Amazon simply hasn't removed the listing?

I was hoping that they were in the process of making full animation for the lost episodes so that they’d eventually release season sets on Blu-ray for those first six seasons as they’re beginning to do with the other Doctors from the classic series. Originally I wasn’t going to switch to Blu-ray as I already had so much of the classic series, but the fact that they’re including all the original bonus material and some new stuff as well (added to the fact that they take up a LOT less shelf space) has won me over.
In another vein, the David Tennant Complete Collection Blu-ray set is a steal at $24.99 from amazon. It’s got the entire run with Tennant, including all the episodes and specials with Tennant and the bonus features from the original DVD sets, the animated specials The Infinite Quest and Dreamland AND the episodes of Sarah Jane Adventures that Tennant guest-starred in. The only things missing are the Big Finish audio-dramas that Tennant has done (understandable as those are not BBC productions) and The Day of the Doctor anniversary special (which is technically a Matt Smith era production). It takes up way less shelf space (one might say it’s bigger on the inside) and it’s a really nice set at a great price.

I'm nearly done with the Pertwee era, and before starting Tom Baker's run, will be going back to fill in the gaps.
I love Who, but don't feel the need to own every episode, but I will break down if need be.

I subtly mentioned it might be nice to also have a classic Who series, so I got to write a couple 6th Doctor stories.
And, the site wants to do a crossover event and I talked him into letting me write a multi-Doctor story!

Got to give #6 some love and attention, which I always felt he deserved.
And the condition I gave myself for my multi Doctor is not to use any Doctors that have already participated in one before.
So, #'s 4,7,8,9 and 13!!

Been fun, as my fanfic editor has just let me run wild.
I'll try and post the links.

Gotta say, pairing angry #9 and cheerful #13 was wicked fun!

And yeah, I will fight you over this.

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Travis wrote: "Gotta say, as my massive rewatch takes me through the Pertwee era, I gotta say, Roger Delgado is the best Master.
And yeah, I will fight you over this."
No argument. He is, you might say, the definitive Master ...
And yeah, I will fight you over this."
No argument. He is, you might say, the definitive Master ...
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I'll start:
Shame that Jon Pertwee and Nicholas Courtney ( Doctor #3 and the Brig) never did a Sherlock Holmes project together.
That would have been pretty cool.