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So, you don't think (view spoiler) is his real name?
Only the Shadow knows hahahahahahahaha 😼
Three Doctors: Who doesn't love a Doctor team up!One of my fave fanfic moments was getting to write one.
One more to go and the Pertwee era is over.
Planet of the Spiders: All done with Pertwee.Not one of favorite Doctors, when I started, but I have grown to appreciate him.
But, lordy is his last story all over the place.
You can plainly see it was originally written prior to Pertwee announcing he was leaving and the two stories don't quite fit together seamlessly.
Even at 6 episodes, it feels rushed and there are a ton of loose ends to give BF a season worth of stories.
A strange, uneven romp. The good bits are very good, the bad are more weird, then bad.
On to the Baker era!
Yeah, Planet of the Spiders is a weird one.
What's funny, is if you started a drinking game based on take a drink when you see something that "inspired" new Who, you'd be in a coma.
Yeah, there’s stuff like that peppered all over the place in those old episodes. 😼
Robot: We begin the Baker era!Now everyone has a favorite Doctor, generally, it tends to be your first.
Growing up, Tom Baker wasn't just 'my' Doctor, but he was 'The' Doctor.
He was the only one we ever got for years and when a rare Pertwee showed up on PBS, it felt weird, like 'Who is this guy?'
Once I had access to those other Doctors, and Baker went through his difficult period, I kind of drifted away from him.
Forgotten how good he is in the role.
The first few seasons with him are quite good. That’s certainly true. But he seems to get pretty weary as those seasons roll by.
By season seven, Tom was getting tired, but considering the average Who run is three years, he did okay.Some are better then others, but there isn't a "Love and Monsters' in the bunch.
Probably skip around a bit, as there are a few that I've seen a hundred times, but just as many I'm looking forward to hav ing an excuse to watch again.
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Growing up, Tom Baker wasn't just 'my' Doctor, but he was 'The' Doctor. "
It's funny though, like most PBS era Whovians (not all, depending on where you were in the country I've discovered), Tom Baker was my first Doctor too. However, he's not the Doctor I really jibed with for all that I enjoyed watching his stuff; there are some definite snoozers in his era too, starting, funnily enough, with Robot. I blame that story on the writers who were probably still thinking 3rd Doctor stories.
Given a choice between Tom Baker and Sylvester McCoy, I'll take the Seventh Doctor any day.
Random question: I'm doing some Doctor Who stories for a fanfic site. My plan is do a 'season' of one Doctor and then move to another, and do this until I've either gotten to write every one, or the site crashes.In between 'seasons', I'd like to spin-off one shot, as a break.
Survey for the group:
What's something or someone from Doctor Who that you think deserves a spin-off?
It can be a character, a story a planet or place.
I've started a list of ideas, but can always use more.
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It can be a character, a story a planet or place."
The Draconians always needed more air/book time I've always thought (Doctor Who and the Space War).
More Dr. Liz Shaw would be great too.
What kind of adventures did Mel and Sabalom Glitz have when they left Ice World in Dragonfire?
Here's a fun thought: what does K-9 Mark 1 think of K-9 from the Australian series?
K9 Mark 1
K-9 Mark A?
I'll add more as I think about this question.
Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "What's something or someone from Doctor Who that you think deserves a spin-off?It can be a character, a story a planet or place."
The Draconians always needed more air/book time I'..."
Good choices.
and some variation of all of them are on my list.
Have not seen the Australian K-9 series. It's offered for free on shout factory, but it loos...not good.
So, I watched the first episode of the K-9 series and it's...oddly good.Wants SO badly to be considered cannon and sneaks as close as it can, while staying just vague enough to avoid a law suit.
Feels more like Doctor Who then Torchwood ever did.
Completely works as a parallel series to Sarah Jane adventures.
This could be what Sarah's K-9 was up to for the season where they couldn't use him or could be a new K-9, made on Galifry, used to investigate things for the Time Lords.
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Wants SO badly to be considered cannon and sneaks as close as it can, while staying just vague enough to avoid a law suit.
..."
Good thing Doctor Who doesn't have a canon from which things are excluded! 😎
That's the great thing about having a continuity rather than canon called on a show (something the BBC has never done). Continuity is expansive and encompassing, canon excludes and limits what can be done. Doctor Who lives up the "Bigger on the Inside" title, which is why I can buy all the stories told in DWM's comics, IDW's & Titan's Comics series, fanfic, Big Finish Audios, BBV's stuff, not to mention all the books that have been put out since the series' inception, even if I've never seen/read/heard everything ever produced in the series. Yes, even the Peter Cushing movies. This is why Lance Parkin's AHistory: An Unauthorized History of the Doctor Who Universe actually works.
This isn't Paramount or Disney declaring what is and isn't allowed in the mainline of stories, but a whole conglomerate of fans and the BBC actually working together while still making the main show accessible to the average viewer. For the most part it seems to work well. Also, you'll notice as you make your way through viewing the series as a whole, different writing and production teams quite happily ignore earlier, established, ideas about particular plot points to outright contradicting them (not to mention that, in an earlier time, reruns really weren't a thing so there wasn't a real way to go back and check in any case). I like that freewheeling feel to the show.
It’s just that every time the Doctor goes back in time and messes around with someone’s nefarious plot to take over the world or turn humanity into a special treat for their cosmic dog it rewrites history. So as long as it’s not anything written down and known as history it’s fair game to be constantly reworked and rewritten - kind of like editing a manuscript before it gets published - so the concept of cannon is rather antithetical to the concept of the series (at least that’s how it seems to me).
Who fandom generally seems more accepting of 'head canon'.If you can explain something or fill in a gap and it's not messing anything else up, have at it.
Comics fandom used to have it, but now it's a bit of a mess.
Yeah, back in the day when Marvel was handing out “No-Prizes” - sigh - sadly I never got one of those glorious empty envelopes in the mail, but I did qualify on several occasions when they wrote “and if you (blah blah blah) then consider yourself No-Prized. So I did. And I do. 😼
However problematic the whole timeless child thing may turn out to be, there is a kind of beautiful moment where you realize if you've ever written Who fanfic, where you created your own Doctor, Chibnall just made you canon.
As far as I’m concerned - anything I write IS canon 😼
Big Tom Baker sale at Big Finish going on right now. Just saying ...
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I think the closest they ever got to having a cannon is when UNIT lobbed mortar rounds into the Sea Devils' base ... 😉
Lori S. wrote: "Doctor Who doesn't have Canon. It's all Continuity.I think the closest they ever got to having a cannon is when UNIT lobbed mortar rounds into the Sea Devils' base ... 😉"
😹😹😹
After a brief pause, due to annoying real world stuff...on to 'Ark in space'.One off my favorites.
Love how episode one is just them wandering around the space station.
With Tom Baker, there will be some jumping around, as I've seen so much of his run, I'll skip the clunkers or the ones I don't need to rewatch.
Lori S. wrote: "Doctor Who doesn't have Canon. It's all Continuity.I think the closest they ever got to having a cannon is when UNIT lobbed mortar rounds into the Sea Devils' base ... 😉"
proud of yourself, are you...?
Travis wrote: "proud of yourself, are you...?"I thought it was very clever. 😼
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "proud of yourself, are you...?"I thought it was very clever. 😼"
We can't encourage that kind of behavior.
Today it's puns, tomorrow, she's running with a gang and eating fruit from the grocery store without washing it first.
Travis wrote: "We can't encourage that kind of behavior.Today it's puns, tomorrow, she's running with a gang and eating fruit from the grocery store without washing it first."
Oh the horrors! 🙀
It seems harsh now, but it is for her own good.I'm a dad, I can say stuff like that.
Only meant to watch episode one of Ark in space and ended up binging through it in one night.Still so good and still manages to creep me out, even knowing what's coming.
The Wrynn need to come back.
I also need to add Nerva Beacon to my spin off list.
Rick wrote: "I’m in the middle of Doctor Who: The Dark Planet right now."That sounds really good.
So glad BF has found a way to 'bring back' the First Doctor.
They’ve done a better job with the First Doctor Adventures Doctor Who: The First Doctor Adventures – Volume 1
Doctor Who: The First Doctor Adventures, Volume 2
Doctor Who: The First Doctor Adventures – Volume 3
Doctor Who: The First Doctor Adventures – Volume 4
Doctor Who: The First Doctor Adventures Volume 05
With David Bradley as the First Doctor. They’re brilliant!
Checking out amazon, looking to work on my sonic screwdriver collection and was recommended the UNiT action figure set.Pricey, but that Brigader figure is pretty snazzy looking!
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Pricey, but that Brigader figure is pretty snazzy looking!"
Tempting!
Yeah.I'm trying to avoid the action figure addiction.
I'd like to get all 13 Doctors and I need to replace my K-9, but there are so many good figures and sets out there that my self control is taking a series beating.
Not only is there a Brig, but there's a Delgado Master!
And A robot, from Robots of Death!
And...etc...!
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I'm trying to avoid the action figure addiction.
I'd like to get all 13 Doctors and I need to replace my K-9, but there are so many good figures and sets out there that my self control is tak..."
I completely understand.
Along with doing target style adaptions of new Who episodes, they are finally doing a novelization of the movie!
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Which movie? If you're referring the TV Movie, Gary Russell did that way back in 1996 Doctor Who: The Novel of the Film - and in searching out this one, I realized what you mean now. They're putting into a Target style cover looks like.
Original
Target style
Did not know they ever did a novelization.Remember seeing a book about the making of the movie.
Wondering if the target style book is a reprint or a different adaption...?
Interesting.
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Remember seeing a book about the making of the movie.
Wondering if the target style book is a reprint or a different adaption...?
Interesting."
Same book.
Good.I was worried I'd have to track down two books.
Finished the Harry Sullivan era: Gonna miss Harry. Fun character.And of course, Terror of the Zygons pretty much marks the end of the UNIT era as well.
Still sad they never got a spin off. Would have been fun seeing the Brig and co. handling threats without the Doctor.
I started up on the River Song audio dramas again. I’m on series three.
Never got into her as a character.Not a bad idea and I like that actress, but the character reeks of fanfic ( not in a good way) and just became yet another magic moffat girl.
He was too busy having her show up the Doctor to dig deeper into her character.
Would like a Pond Family Christmas or something, as the dynamic between her and her parents is interesting to me.
Re-watching Brain of Morbius thought: why hasn't there been a story where the Time Lords gathered up a bunch of these evil renegades to use as some kind of "Suicide Squad' during the time war?We know they brought the Master back, why not all of them?
Sounds like you need to submit another story treatment ...
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Spider than he does with The Shadow. Both Batman & the Spider are millionaires who but on costumes to solve crimes and swing about from rooftops and operate as effectively solitary vigilantes. Whereas the identity of the Shadow is never really positively identified, there are even red-herrings in many of the books AND he uses a huge network of operatives to assist him. Further the Shadow uses mysticism and illusion constantly in his operations, Batman does not.
In any case the ancestral linkage is much more murky than it is between Doc Savage, the Man of Bronze, and Superman, the Man of Steel. Doc Savage appeared half a decade before Superman, and both have “Fortress of Solitude” located somewhere in the Arctic, both have a female cousin (Pat Savage and Supergirl respectively) who accompany them on some adventures, both are smarter, stronger and faster than the average man. And Superman’s creators were acknowledged fans of Doc Savage. Why there wasn’t a lawsuit will always puzzle me.