Doctor Who: The Library of Carsus discussion

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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "So, my Troughton run is done, for awhile, back to Tom Baker: Talons of Weng-Chiang: Aside from Tom taking the whole thing really seriously, this is a near perfect one. ..."

Yeah, on..."


Part of why I, regretfully, I have resisted BF, is there's just so much stuff.
Sad, that that counts on as a complaint, but I just don't have the space for 212 CDs and my only CD player is in my car.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "Bummed the fanfic site that let me write Doctor Who went away, as I was going to do some Hartnell Doctor stories set in modern (for the show) times."

Have you tried this site? A Tea..."


Appreciate the link.
While I'm sad to have lost the chance, my writing 'to do' list is almost as packed as my reading 'to do' list.

May give it a try down the road, but I'm involved in, and behind on, a comic book based fanfic site, as well as doing stories for a couple small press publishers.


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Rick | 2260 comments Lori S. wrote: "Have you tried this site? A Teaspoon and an Open Mind. It's all about DW fanfic."

I will let Travis have that. I’m having enough trouble with Big Finish, my bank account AND my collector’s obsession; I don’t need to add fan fiction to it as well.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "Bummed the fanfic site that let me write Doctor Who went away, as I was going to do some Hartnell Doctor stories set in modern (for the show) times."

Have you tried this site? A Tea..."


Arrrgggh!
I clicked on the link.
Shouldn't have. Now, I'm tempted.
Gonna end up digging up my fanfic notes...


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "Arrrgggh! I clicked on the link. Shouldn't have. Now, I'm tempted. Gonna end up digging up my fanfic notes... "

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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Horror of fang Rock: Great story, setting, pretty decent cast ( the older gentleman always struck me as a good potential companion), creepy atmosphere, nice chemistry between 4 and Leela and the only screen time the Rutans ever get!

Shame they didn't do more with the Sontarion/Rutan war.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... the only screen time the Rutans ever get!..."

I was thinking they showed up in Sarah Jane Adventures at some point. But I’ve only been through that series once, so I’m probably mistaken.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "... the only screen time the Rutans ever get!..."

I was thinking they showed up in Sarah Jane Adventures at some point. But I’ve only been through that series once, so I’m probably ..."


Nope.
Lots of Sontarions, but Rutans only ever get mentioned.
Shame, so much potential there.


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Rick | 2260 comments Well, it’s not like the show’s cancelled or anything. They could always show up in the next season. I mean ... Jack’s back ... anything could happen. 😼


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Invisible Enemy: so much really questionable science!

Still, we get the nice console room redesign, great action scenes, a megalomaniac shrimp and K-9!!!

Love the space hospital setting and cast. Be a great BF spin-off, do a prequel with Professor Marius and K-9 in a sci-fi medical drama.


message 511: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Yep. 😼


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments after reading a Star Trek novel about the Federation department that deals with time travel, I'd like to see the Time Agents from Doctor Who finally get explained and maybe their own comic of BF series.


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Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Travis wrote: "after reading a Star Trek novel about the Federation department that deals with time travel, I'd like to see the Time Agents from Doctor Who finally get explained and maybe their own comic of BF se..."

Yeah, that would be neat. Did they form in the wake of the Time War? Or, was there some other catalyst involved?


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "after reading a Star Trek novel about the Federation department that deals with time travel, I'd like to see the Time Agents from Doctor Who finally get explained and maybe their own..."

Time Agents actually get mentioned in a Tom Baker episode, but we never actually see one until new Who.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "after reading a Star Trek novel about the Federation department that deals with time travel, I'd like to see the Time Agents from Doctor Who finally get explained and maybe their own comic of BF se..."

Yes, yes, yes.

Although, Marvel is beating them to it with the TVA (Time Variance Authority) appearing in the new series Loki. Just saying ...


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Image of Fendahl: still creepy after all these years.
Now, I'm noticing how good the cast is and the chemistry between Leela and the Doctor.
And Benidict Cumberbatch's Mom!


message 517: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... And Benidict Cumberbatch's Mom!"

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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "... And Benidict Cumberbatch's Mom!"

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She was also on UFO
Good actress and quite the babe.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "She was also on UFO. ..."

Now you’re gonna make me dig out my UFO set? Argh! I’ve still got to rewatch The Prisoner, the second year of Space: 1999 and so much other stuff. My pile of rewatch is getting larger faster than I can get to it. (This just means I’ve got too many TV shows on disc.)


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments UFO is flawed but entertaining.
Good cast saves it.
A doctor who podcast I listen to is doing a rewatch of UFO and I've been watching along.
It's been fun.

I think afterwards they want to do either the prisoner or space 1999.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "UFO is flawed but entertaining. ..."

There was a different order that I found to watch them in, that makes them a bit more ... cohesive, maybe.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "UFO is flawed but entertaining. ..."

There was a different order that I found to watch them in, that makes them a bit more ... cohesive, maybe."


I've heard that, but for me it's not episode order, as much, as the show just doesn't explain stuff terribly well.

We never get a solid reason why the aliens are doing this.
Where are they from?
Have we actuallyever seen an alien or are the 'people' we see just converted/enslaved human captives.
Neither side makes any effort to talk to each other.

Shado isn't quite Torchwood level bad at their jobs, but there are a couple times, where they don't ask basic questions or take basic precautions.

Isome good actors and set pieces and I love seeing what life was like in the far off year of 1980, but I get why it isn't more well known


message 523: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments All true. I loved the fact that we don’t see the aliens, it keeps the mystery alive. And the lack of concrete explanations and answers was just part of what I saw as the long game, that sadly never got to play out over several seasons. But I do agree that it also leaves the show lacking and unable to fully deliver on the concept.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "All true. I loved the fact that we don’t see the aliens, it keeps the mystery alive. And the lack of concrete explanations and answers was just part of what I saw as the long game, that sadly never..."

Shame we never got season 2, as there were some great later episodes and some hints that they could have built on.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "Shame we never got season 2, as there were some great later episodes and some hints that they could have built on."

Yep, agreed. But instead we got the first season of Space: 1999. So it wasn’t all bad. 😼


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Fair trade off.


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Rick | 2260 comments I certainly thought so.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments It is a cool 'what if...?' to think about season 2, using those Space:1999 sets, or even if Anderson had kept the UFO cast for Space: 1999etc, but I doubt either show would have had a long run or reached Star Trek levels of fame.

Part of the fun of the Anderson-verse, was we got a whole bunch of short lived cool shows, rather then one big, enduring franchise.


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Fiona McGier | 75 comments Travis wrote: "Image of Fendahl: still creepy after all these years.
Now, I'm noticing how good the cast is and the chemistry between Leela and the Doctor.
And Benidict Cumberbatch's Mom!"


Wait...what?? So the one who gets taken over by the Fendahl, that's Sherlock's mom? Wow! I didn't know that. I learn so much from you guys! You take my Dr. Who and general sci-fi nerd-dom to a whole new level, for which I'm exceedingly grateful! Now I can't wait to share that with my husband and our 4 adult kids who grew up watching the doctor along with us!

I've never been to a Comic-Con, but husband and 2 of our sons used to go, back when the boys still lived here. One son got to meet Peter Davisson. He walked up to him, started to jabber, and told him, "Wow! I grew up watching you! You rock!" The 5th doctor was nice enough to just smile and shake his hand.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... reached Star Trek levels of fame..."

Okay, you do realize I’m a HUGE Space: 1999 fan? And that there was a time, in the late 70s before Star Trek: The Motion Picture hit the big screen in 1979, that the fans of Star Trek and Space: 1999 were really about evenly divided and fanatical? There had been a long hard push for about 2 years trying to get ITC to bring Space: 1999 back. We were a determined bunch. Once the Star Trek films succeeded, and then the arrival of The Next Generation we knew it was over. And the rise of the Sith Lords didn’t help matters either. Between Star Wars and Star Trek the gothic sci-if world of Space: 1999 just couldn’t keep up. It was just too “out there” for most American audiences. But we were a dedicated and loyal bunch. Until the years, and the mileage, crippled us.
The best thing about the Space: 1999 conventions were that they were run as a non-profit, with any proceeds going to local Children’s Hospitals. So the actors and professional guests would more often than not donate their time at the conventions, as long as the convention itself would cover travel expenses, room and board. And it’s a totally different feel, when the guests don’t have attendance fees or autograph fees. But that model of convention is sadly long gone. Capitalism killed that as well. I met a lot of really wonderful people at those Space: 1999 conventions.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Fiona wrote: "Travis wrote: "Image of Fendahl: still creepy after all these years.
Now, I'm noticing how good the cast is and the chemistry between Leela and the Doctor.
And Benidict Cumberbatch's Mom!"

Wait......"


I have no practical knowledge, but if you want to know about Doctor Who or comic books, I'm your guy.

I do miss going to cons.
Never went to any of the huge ones, and my only Who related story is seeing John Barrowman, but my wife and I always had a good time.
My wife and I were talking about going to Chicago Tardis, and then the world fell apart.


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Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Travis wrote: "Fiona wrote: "My wife and I were talking about going to Chicago Tardis, and then the world fell apart."

A friend and I went to ChicagoTARDIS several years ago and enjoyed it very much. It was, in a lot of ways, more laid back than Gallifrey One's been in a long time (since the popularity of the program exploded).

The first Gallifrey One I attended, when Paul McGann came the first time, was a little over 800 people which made getting signatures actually doable, unlike the last time I went when I stood in line for nearly two hours before they called a halt to signatures for the day. On the upside of that, I met an Australian who was on her way to Roswell, NM to visit the UFO Museum and other UFO sites before heading home. We had a fascinating conversation about weird things in the sky and odd lights dancing in the night. I hope she wasn't too disappointed by her visit.

I'm not a fan of huge cons myself. I prefer the regional cons which can hover between 600-800 people, depending on the year, etc. Our own local convention, Bubonicon, has grown significantly since I first started going in the 90s, but is still a manageable 700+.

The largest con I've been to was Worldcon in Glasgow, Scotland in 2005. Attendance was over 5,000 people, if I remember correctly.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... and then the world fell apart."

Damn HYDRA. I blame it all on HYDRA.


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Rick | 2260 comments Lori S. wrote: "... The largest con I've been to was Worldcon in Glasgow, Scotland in 2005. Attendance was over 5,000 people, if I remember correctly."

I think the largest con I’ve attended was probably Gen-Con in Indianapolis about 10 years back. Of course there’s also conferences for work, but library conferences don’t really get all that big. And work stuff doesn’t really count does it? Of course, I was sort of working at Gen-Con as well, doing interviews and such for a podcast I used to be involved with. Sigh. Those were the days.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "... and then the world fell apart."

Damn HYDRA. I blame it all on HYDRA."


trump, hydra...pretty much the same thing.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "Fiona wrote: "My wife and I were talking about going to Chicago Tardis, and then the world fell apart."

A friend and I went to ChicagoTARDIS several years ago and enjoyed it very mu..."


On my list of things I miss in 2020, cons were right up there.
My wife and I have had so much fun getting back into con culture and despite not going to any huge ones, have had some really good interactions with a couple famous folk.

Plus, give me some boxes of cheap comics and just let me search through them and I reach a zen state of contentment.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Sunmakers: Forgot how good this one is!
Good story, good cast, sly sense off humor, both Leela and K-9 get plenty to do and I can't believe those aliens never came back.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Underworld: Yeah, now I get why this is no one's favorite.
Great design, good cast, but it feels like a cut and paste of previous scripts.
The big bad is obvious and really weak.
Everybody sounds good, nice interaction between the Doctor, Leela, K-9 and the Minoan crew, but it all feels very been there done that, but in a better story.


message 539: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments When I get back to rewatching the classic episodes again, I’m gonna do this same thing. 😸


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Stopped at my local comic shop, couldn't find Time Lord victorious, but they had the 13th Doctor comic...except, the series I was reading ended and they relaunched it, so the two issues I bought are for a different story...!

Aaaaarrrrrrgh!
Hate when they do that!


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Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Travis wrote: "Stopped at my local comic shop, couldn't find Time Lord victorious, but they had the 13th Doctor comic...except, the series I was reading ended and they relaunched it, so the two issues I bought ar..."

That's why I like omnibuses.


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Rick | 2260 comments Lori S. wrote: "That's why I like omnibuses."

After years and years (ha! Band reference! 😼) of buying individual issues, I’ve finally decided it’s better to wait for the trades. It’s a mindset that I fought against for decades.

And now I’ve carried it over to TV shows. I now prefer to wait for disc release instead of watching week by week.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments I'm mixed.
Some stuff I get in collections, but still like going to my LCS on new comic day and occasionally prowling the back issue boxes.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Since it got mentioned on another thread, let me just say: I lived in mortal fear Wanda Vision was going screw up the landing, and they did not.
Very happy with it.


message 545: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments I have to admit that when it was first announced that Marvel was casting Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda/Scarlet Witch I was more than a bit apprehensive. All I could think was: “the sister of the Olsen twins is supposed to be my favorite Avenger? Nope. Ain’t gonna work.” But now, after WandaVision, I want to give her every award imaginable. And Paul Bettany too. This show has been surprisingly delightful every single episode. And I’ve not even seen the last episode yet.

(And, yes, technically either Black Panther or Shang-Chi would be more accurately my favorite Avenger, but let’s just say ‘favorite classic Avenger’ and leave it at that. Okay?)


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments No spoilers, just gonna say, this series shows what a raw deal these two actors got in the movies and I really hope phase 4 treats them right and makes them a solid part of whatever Avengers line up comes next.

And gets marvel to fix how badly they've been treated in the comics for the past 20 years.


message 547: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... And gets marvel to fix how badly they've been treated in the comics for the past 20 years."

Agreed. There are so many stories that Marvel has done that are just narrative crutches for unimaginative writers ... like Avengers: Disassembled, Avengers #200 (I mean, what were they thinking?!🙀) and the whole Peter-makes-a-deal-with-Mephisto-to-end-his-marriage-with-Mary-Jane. But some of the crap they’ve piled on Wanda and Vision has been appalling.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "... And gets marvel to fix how badly they've been treated in the comics for the past 20 years."

Agreed. There are so many stories that Marvel has done that are just narrative crutch..."


Civil war the movie shows you how miserably horrible civil war the comic is.
The MCU took a comic I hate and turned it into a movie I love.


message 549: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Yeah, I all but abandoned Marvel in the 90s. Which, as I was a confirmed Marvel Zombie in the 70s & 80s, is saying quite a bit.


message 550: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Most of my money goes to back issues, but there's about a dozen titles I still try to follow.
Comes and it goes, depending on who's writing and how many event stories the title will get dragged into.


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