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Karen Hoehne | 1717 comments Mod
Three Lives by Gertrude Stein


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Inder | 82 comments Pillsonista wrote: "Mercedes wrote: "Pillsonista wrote: "Amanda wrote: "I think women are generally better at writing men though, because they have more of an example to work with, since most protagonists are men. "

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Such a thoughtful response! But wasn't the fallen woman THE trope of 19th century lit? It wasn't exactly revolutionary, it seems to have been the favorite theme of the time (although maybe not so much in Russian literature, I can't think of any others now that we're on the topic).

Anyway, Anna is one of my favorites of the bunch, but maybe I've just read one too novels about fallen virtue at this point ... I totally agree that the minor characters (male and female - if you can call a character that still takes up 300 pages minor) in Anna Karenina are absolutely delightful.

I found Will Ladislaw completely awful too. UGH. He's believably awful, though, even as Dorothea is too high-minded for me but also believable. Fred and Mary are where it's at in Middlemarch!

On women and whether they have greater powers of observation, it's worth noting that a subjugated minority will usually understand the majority culture better than the other way around because understanding the majority culture is important to thriving and surviving. To the extent women depended on men for financial support, protection, and any hope of advancement in the 19th century, they were bound to be alert to the world of men in a way that men would not have had to pay attention to the world of women. That said, another favorite topic of 19th century male authors was women and their foibles, so there are a number of authors from that time that were quite sensitive and observant. This is not something I see much in early 20th century lit!

Anyway, just rambling.


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Pillsonista | 22 comments Wow guys, this has been a fantastic discussion! Thank you so much for your equally thoughtful responses.

It's so nice to be able to have these kinds of discussions, with thoughtful, honest responses all around. These kinds of conversations are not always easy to find on the internet, but that's the great thing about GR.


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GW | 15 comments I just finished If on a winter's night a traveler by Calvino


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Karen Hoehne | 1717 comments Mod
Matigari by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o


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Peter | 443 comments The Twins by Tessa de Loo. I really enjoyed it.


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Karen Hoehne | 1717 comments Mod
Zeno's Conscience by Italo Svevo
Thoroughly enjoyed this book! Zeno's Conscience would have been a great read in an Introductory Psychology class. Regarding Svevo's connection with Joyce, there is an excellent graphic novel -- James Joyce: Portrait of a Dubliner—A Graphic Biography - which gives a great overview of Joyce's life and works including his time spent in Trieste.


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Mia | 1200 comments I finished Oroonoko by Aphra Behn.


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Mia | 1200 comments And I finished The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul by Douglas Adams. I really liked it, now I have to read the first one.


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Isabel (welltraveledwellread) | 12 comments Stephanie "Jedigal" wrote: "Great Expectations (good, of course, I always enjoy Dickens)
Heart of Darkness (vivid use of language, short, but dark so very dark)
The Moonstone (Wow! Thank you List for getting me to read Collin..."


Stephanie "Jedigal" wrote: "Great Expectations (good, of course, I always enjoy Dickens)
Heart of Darkness (vivid use of language, short, but dark so very dark)
The Moonstone (Wow! Thank you List for getting me to read Collin..."


Thanks, I'm going to checkout The Moonstone now!


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Isabel (welltraveledwellread) | 12 comments I just finished If On a Winter's Night a Traveler by Calvino last night. I have so enjoyed discovering his books in this challenge. They are so unusual, but I love them!


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Jess Penhallow | 36 comments I've finished Dracula. There were times when it was a bit slow but other times when it was very spooky and exciting and loved the characters.


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Inder | 82 comments I just finished The Bluest Eye and Ethan Frome - two more books by women on the list, bringing me to 182 books total and 21 list books so far this year. I am currently reading four (I know, this is ridiculous, but there's an audiobook, a kindle book, a read aloud to my kids - Pippi Longstocking, and a print book, so they each have their place!) and I'm still hoping to get close to 30 list books for 2018. We shall see!


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Sarah (sarahbethie) | 438 comments Finished Uncle Silas by J. Sheridan Le Fanu.


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Karen Hoehne | 1717 comments Mod
Farewell, My Lovely by Raymond Chandler


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George P. | 1402 comments Mod
I finished Absolute Beginners (on paper) a few days ago by Brit writer Colin MacInnes, and today finished The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay by American Michael Chabon (audiobook, well-done).


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Grada (BoekenTrol) (boekentrol) | 60 comments I just finished A Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne.


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Peter | 443 comments The Diary of a Nobody by George Grossmith. Enjoyed it and deserves to be on this list.


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Diane  | 2336 comments Mod
Finished Agnes Grey by Anne Brontë.


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Karen Hoehne | 1717 comments Mod
The Life of Insects by Victor Pelevin


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Tim | 331 comments White Teeth by Zadie Smith
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson


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Tim | 331 comments The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, by Douglas Adams
and one not listed but should be, The Fifth Child, by Doris Lessing


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Tim | 331 comments Aileen wrote: "Amsterdam by Ian McEwan"

I've never read any of McEwan's writings but Amsterdam is on my soon to read tbr. Just wondering what your thoughts are concerning the book.


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Aileen | 154 comments Tim wrote: "Aileen wrote: "Amsterdam by Ian McEwan"

I've never read any of McEwan's writings but Amsterdam is on my soon to read tbr. Just wondering what your thoughts are concerning..."


I gave it 4/5. Reading some of the reviews on here and elsewhere, some people seemed not to like it - unlikeable characters, awful plot, gloomy, depressing etc. I actually found it full of black humour, which appeals to me. I found myself smiling throughout (probably in the wrong places!), so I would recommend it.

I've also read Enduring Love after watching the movie with Daniel Craig and Rhys Ifans, I liked that one too. I've got another five McEwans on the tbr pile, not all of them are on the 1001 list.


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Tyler | 207 comments I finished Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse


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Diane  | 2336 comments Mod
Finished The Light of Day by Graham Swift.


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Karina | 401 comments I finished Trainspotting by Irving Welsh on Thursday (it was okay, I really didn't like the reading of the dialect, it was hard to follow) and I finished July's People by Nadine Gordimer this morning which I did enjoy.


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Mia | 1200 comments Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. I really enjoyed it.


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Grada (BoekenTrol) (boekentrol) | 60 comments I finished Half of a Yellow Sun by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and I loved it!


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George P. | 1402 comments Mod
Diane wrote: "Finished The Light of Day by Graham Swift."

Now that you're in the last third or so of the Boxall list, you're reading mostly not-very-popular novels I suppose. How is that for you? Is it seeming like a chore, or?


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Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov. Although the subject matter is awful, the writing is superb.


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Tim | 331 comments Aileen wrote: "Tim wrote: "Aileen wrote: "Amsterdam by Ian McEwan"

I've never read any of McEwan's writings but Amsterdam is on my soon to read tbr. Just wondering what your thoughts ar..."


Thank you for the helpful evaluation.


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Tim | 331 comments The Invisible Man, by H. G. Wells


message 4947: by George P. (last edited Nov 03, 2018 08:03PM) (new)

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If Not Now, When? by Primo Levi, one of his three list books. Tells about a part of World War 2 few of us are familiar with, the partisans (mostly Jewish in this novel) fighting for the Allies in German-controlled territories. Very good.

BTW this was my 37th list book this year, the most ever in a calendar year for me; I should read a few more by year's end.


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Nancy (nlgeorge) | 31 comments Tyler wrote: "I finished Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse"

Steppenwolf is a trip!


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Karen Hoehne | 1717 comments Mod
The Awakening by Kate Chopin


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Diane  | 2336 comments Mod
George wrote: "Diane wrote: "Finished The Light of Day by Graham Swift."

Now that you're in the last third or so of the Boxall list, you're reading mostly not-very-popular novels I su..."


It isn't a chore at all. I never cared to read books everyone else was reading, so this suits me well. I am finding some true underrated gems. My only worry is that at some point the remaining books might be hard to locate.


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