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Is It Possible to Remove Books from a Listopia List
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Jan 02, 2012 07:39AM
I was recently looking over the list "Autism in Fiction" (http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/88...), and I noticed that there were several books on the list that weren't fiction. Is there any way to remove these from the list? How about creating a separate list for "Autism in Non-Fiction" for memoirs and the like. (Not sure what to call it, though, because I want it to include the stories of those with autism and the people around them, not books of advice.)
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Next to the description of the list, there's a link that says "(edit)". After you click on that, it will take you to another page. There's a link at the bottom: "remove particular books". It will then take you to a list of the books; "delete this book from the list" links are on the right.
Oh, on the list page there's a comment section. You may want to tell the list maker you're going to delete. Also, even if you do delete the books appear related to autism so you may want to say you're deleting the books and still link to them in your comment.
I can't see the 'remove particular books' link on the described page, can anybody help? (I'm the creator of the list I want to edit, btw).
I think only librarians can remove books on a list as they are public, so if your list has some works that don't match the list, post them to this group and we can remove them.
Shay wrote: "Oh, on the list page there's a comment section. ..."
Or post in the comment section of the list so the list creator, or a participating librarian, can remove the books.
Or post in the comment section of the list so the list creator, or a participating librarian, can remove the books.
Traveling Diva wrote: "I think only librarians can remove books on a list as they are public, so if your list has some works that don't match the list, post them to this group and we can remove them."Oh, I see! That's all right, I've applied to become a Librarian already, I guess I can just wait for the application to come back :) If it's not approved I might take you up on that? Thanks! ^^
I have a list I created here and despite asking people not to post PNR books on the list one has ended up at the top of the list - Blood LustThis is also not a BDSM book as far as I can tell. There are specific criteria to make it BDSM.
Could someone remove it, please?
List:
http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/24...
Siavahda wrote: "If it's not approved I might take you up on that..."If not approved or if no new librarians currently needed...you won't hear back saying you've been turned down. You only get notified if approved (by email or you can see on your profile page under your profile photo "goodreads librarian")
Someone has put Blood Lust back on my list. I checked and not only is it PNR, but the theme is abuse - non-consensual rape and sex slave - and not BDSM, which is consensual.Is there a way to block this book from being added repeatedly?
List:
http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/24...
Removed book. I don't know of anyway to block it though. :(
Hello. Can a librarian please remove Twilight and Beautiful Disaster from this list http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/35...Thanks!
Ravneet, I'm not sure one should remove books from that list. One could argue that Edward hates Bella at first, judging from his return to her. I haven't read BD, but I don't think Abby and Travis get along well in the beginning either. That list is more of an opinion one, and we shouldn't really remove books from such lists. However, if someone with more authority than me says it's okay, then I'm sure it'll be taken care of.
Thalia wrote: "Ravneet, I'm not sure one should remove books from that list. One could argue that Edward hates Bella at first, judging from his return to her. I haven't read BD, but I don't think Abby and Travis ..."Thalia, I understand what you are saying but when I made that list I was looking for books with characters who really didn't like each other for a while and then grew to love each other (like in Pride and Prejudice, Poison Study, Crown Duel). In those two books, there is initial hesitation among the characters but they are attracted to each other almost immediately (even if they don't admit it). I'm also tired of seeing those two books on every list. I was hoping to find some new books I hadn't heard of. I want to remove them to discourage people from voting books similar to them.
I have a question about Lists that were clearly created by writers to promote their book. Should we flag these? What to be done? These are list where the only entries on the list are the authors books and they were put there by the writer.
Ravneet wrote: "Thalia wrote: "Ravneet, I'm not sure one should remove books from that list. One could argue that Edward hates Bella at first, judging from his return to her. I haven't read BD, but I don't think A..."I understand. I think as list-maker, you have certain abilities over the list, but I think maybe you should wait for another librarian to let you know. When you create a list that is, essentially, opinion based and up to the judgement of the reader, we're discouraged from removing books because they're not what we would have voted from, or we don't agree. There is not specific definition for what constitues a book where the two main characters hate each other and fall in love, like there is for fiction vs. nonfiction.
So, yeah, it's the reader's call to make on how they interpret your list, and because there are no set definitions that can't be contested, I would just wait until someone with a better knowledge than me weighs in on what should be done. I know, as librarians, we're given HUGE disclaimers when editing books from a list to be absolutely sure that it does not, for any reason, belong on that list, and to not remove books that don't agree with our opinion.
Interesting. I checked my own list after seeing notifications for this thread and found this book on it that isn't even vaguely alternate world fantasy or steampunk. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16...
From one reviewer, (but others say it's our real world also):"It is obvious from her descriptions of the European cities featured in the book that she has been there and describes the cities quite well which gives the reader a sense of being there also."
I think they are getting 'erotic fantasy' and true fantasy world writing mixed up
List
http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/24...
Could it be removed, please?
@Ravneet - Since your list description specifically says that Twilight doesn't count for the list, I've removed it. I'm leaving the other one though. Once you create a list it becomes a sort of public property, other users can and will interpret your list description differently than you might have intended and we don't like to discredit one persons opinion of what fits when a list is subjective in nature.@namericanwordcat There is a thread here where people were reporting such listopia. You can post there or start a new thread. I don't think there is a way to flag a list (though I could be wrong).
@Cari Removed.
Vicky wrote: "@Ravneet - Since your list description specifically says that Twilight doesn't count for the list, I've removed it. I'm leaving the other one though. Once you create a list it becomes a sort of pub..."Hi Vicky. Thanks for removing it! I guess I'll have to relent the issue since I can't prevent people from making different interpretations of my list.
Thanks to all for their input!
Vicky - there is a way to flag a list - there's a (hard to see) "flag as offensive" link at the bottom of the list's main page.
Can someone remove some books from a list (that I started) for me?This is the list:
http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/24...
The following books are not in alignment with the purpose of this list:
The Marriage Merger
The Marriage Mistake
The Marriage Trap
The Marriage Bargain
I would like the Fifty Shades trilogy and City of Bones to be removed from my list here. Please and thank you!
I removed the Fifty Shades books, since they are clearly not YA. City of Bones I'll let another librarian remove as I can't tell whether or not it fits within the parameters.
There's a paternal abusive relationship in City of Bones--at least, one that can be interpreted that way. And there's another one introduced in later books.
Hello, I am the creator of the list The Colbert Report and The Daily Show. It is for books that have been featured on either of those shows, but the author Winsome Campbell-Green has added a few of her own books to the list. Could someone please remove them? Thanks
Can someone please remove this children's book from my steampunk fantasy etc BDSM list.The Lost Isle of Perpetua
And this one
The Pirates of Bair Island
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/2...
I applied to become a librarian partly so I could help fix my lists but it looks like I'm not being approved from the over a week that's gone past?
These Listopia lists are a mess.I spent several hours to add the moving and very well written Holocaust-memoir "In the Face of Evil", by Tema Merback, to 28 Listopia lists.
It started out with me getting the old (inactive) edition of the book when I searched the book by the title. After adding the book to 1 or 2 lists, I noticed my mistake and searched for the book by finding the author in my list of Goodreads friends. So I got the new (active) addition (with the emblem of a book award). I then continued adding the book to suitable Listopia lists.
When I checked (going to the book and finding LISTS THIS BOOK IS ON), there were only 2 lists, that is, the ones with the old (inactive) edition. When I clicked onto the new edition, it said that the book was not listed on any Listopia lists. All my efforts of several hours gone.
I also went to vote for "Switch", by Karen Prince, on a number of Listopia Lists. There I also voted for an old (no longer active) edition until I noticed several editions of the book (golden cover and red-brown cover) listed on most of the lists.
I messaged Karen Prince and learned that the red-brown-cover is the active edition, and that she has tried many a time to get the old, golden-cover edition deleted from these list. Yet all her efforts were to no avail.
Readers, of course, rarely know which edition is the active edition. Thus, the vote for the old golden-cover edition, and the old edition competes with the new edition, and the new edition of "Switch" loses tons of votes.
I have another beef with Listopia lists. I consider it insane that any moron can add new lists, and as you can see, morons have added new lists and continue to add new lists.
It is absolutely essential to have new lists being approved by Goodreads librarians and existing redundant lists merged. Thus the crazy volume of lists could be reduced to 1/10th.
Most readers have no interest in voting on dozens or even hundreds of lists for one book only, when most of these lists are redundant.
It should really be possible to get these lists in order.
Readers add the edition they recognise, know, own or have shelved. There is no "active" edition as far as you knowing which one I or anyone else have on my bookshelf. There are even listopia lists based solely on covers, and forcing a different cover on those users would just ruin their fun. As with many things, adding things to listopia can take some days to show up on the book page, due to caching.
The lists may not operate how you think they should, but that doesn't mean they aren't in order for the people actively using them. The lists are supposed to be for fun, for the readers, not for you or any author to pimp books with the "right" cover on.
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Discussions of how you think a feature should work are better posted in the Feedback Group. Librarians have no control over that sort of thing.
My list ( https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1... ) has books on it by Michael West ("The Legacy of the Gods" series) that were spammed on there by the same 3 people.Could you please remove these books and put the spammers on notice?
Also, for some reason, as a librarian and creator of the list, I still cannot edit the list of books - only the description and tags for the list. This is in spite of the notice that appears when I click "edit":
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Important: if you're on this page you have been granted a special "librarian" status, and can edit list data. Don't take this responsibility lightly—if you can help correct any inaccuracies or add any missing data, please do so! But only make changes if you're sure they're correct.
Please read the Librarian Manual before making any changes to this page.
To see the history of this list view the Librarian change log.
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Why is this? Why can I only edit the title, description, and tags, but not the books?
Any help is most appreciated.
re 38: I removed the offending books, since their description definitely didn't fit the criteria of the list. As for "putting the spammers on notice", I have no idea if that's even something a GR employee can do, much less a librarian. I might suggest adopting the attitude of "Don't feed the trolls." If people are spamming your list with nonsense books, just keep posting back here to have them deleted. Engaging with the spammers won't do anything, especially since they're probably pseudo-users. No idea why you can't edit. Maybe as the creator, your privileges are limited?? Just a guess.
Would someone be able to remove two books from the list https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4... that don't match the aim (they're not members of the debut group)? I'm not able to :)The books are Wanted: Dead Or In Love by Kym Brunner and Whisper by Chris Struyk-Bonn. I changed the list description to try to help in future.
Simon wrote: "Would someone be able to remove two books from the list https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4... that don't match the aim (they're not members of the debut group)? I'm ..."Removed. I also tweaked the description slightly to add a bit of emphasis. Hope you approve.
Someone added an inappropiate book to my list~Clean/Secular/Non Religious Books it is #201-A Matter of Class by Mary Balogh on page 3.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4...
Could someone please remove it?
Another example of why we creators/MODS need to have the ability to delete books from our Listopia Lists and our group bookshelves while still allowing others to add books.
Z-squared wrote: "42 done"Thank you very much! :]
OOPS, I just found another one ~#71 pg-1-These Is My Words (Sarah Agnes Prine, #1) by Nancy E. Turner rape and almost rape in front of a toddler,certainly makes it inappropiate for my Clean/Secular/Non Religious Books-list!
Christine wrote: "OOPS, I just found another one ~#71 pg-1-These Is My Words (Sarah Agnes Prine, #1) by Nancy E. Turner rape and almost rape in front of a toddler,certainly makes it inappropiate for my Clean/Secul..."
Gone.
The Harry Potters start with the murder of parents in front of their baby. Is that OK?
Banjomike wrote: "Simon wrote: "Would someone be able to remove two books from the list https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4... that don't match the aim (they're not members of the debu..."Awesome, thanks. Though I just noticed Kym Brunner's has been added BACK again. Oh well - guess you can't fight the tide?
Banjomike wrote "The Harry Potters start with the murder of parents in front of their baby. Is that OK?"In the HP books that is NOT graphically described if I remember correctly.
Can anyone help with my listopia list?https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4...
People have mistakenly added books that don't fit the list at all, even though I thought the description was clear. I went ahead and edited the description to make it even more clear, but the wrong books still remain.
If a librarian could remove these, I would appreciate it....
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
Bi Any Other Name: Bisexual People Speak Out by Loraine Hutchins (Editor)
Hidden from History: Reclaiming the Gay and Lesbian Past by Martin Duberman (Editor)
What Is Marriage For?: The Strange Social History of Our Most Intimate Institution by E.J. Graff
Gay American History : Lesbians and Gay Men in the U.S.A.: a Documentary by Jonathan Ned Katz
Stranger at the Gate: To Be Gay and Christian in America by Mel White
Coming Out Under Fire: The History of Gay Men and Women in World War Two by Allan Bérubé
The Left Hand of Darkness (Hainish Cycle #4) by Ursula K. Le Guin
Families: A Celebration of Diversity, Commitment, and Love by Aylette Jenness
Stonewall by Martin Duberman
The Mayor of Castro Street: The Life and Times of Harvey Milk by Randy Shilts
The Men with the Pink Triangle: The True Life-and-Death Story of Homosexuals in the Nazi Death Camps by Heinz Heger
Maurice by E.M. Forster
I would really appreciate the help! Thank you!!
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Sorry, I didn't know that. I just thought it would be helpful to see what they were.
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