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message 201: by Sarah jean (new)

Sarah jean  blank (Sarahjean) ick :Q


message 202: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments lol

oh well

but vampires were necessary actually when i thought about it
i mean, the fact that edward was a vampire was what made their relationship 500 times more difficult


message 203: by Sarah jean (new)

Sarah jean  blank (Sarahjean) yeah i jst realised- is bella any diffrent in the beggining of twilight than the end of BD


message 204: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments Ok so i saw Twilight. And it was actually pretty good. It was funny like when Edward put his hand over his mouth like he was smelling something bad (haha). I still dont like the series but the movie was okay.

I actually kind of liked Twilight, it was her first book and t was pretty interesting. New moon was a bit worse, because it had no plot,and Bella was schizophrenic but i liked the introducing of the volturi, and the werewolves.

Eclipse was worse than New Moon, because Bella was just whiny, and unsure about everything. It also had pretty much the same rising action as Twilight; Vampire wants to kill Bella, Edward saves her.

Breaking Dawn was the worst f them all in my opinion. You spend the majority of the book in the Cullens living room, being scared about this fight that never happens. The sex scene(s) had just a tad too much detail...It was exciting for about 300 pages, but then it just went kinda flat for me.


The movie was good. Kristen Stewart did a very good co-dependant.


message 205: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments yeah see chadani? it wasn't THAT bad (as long as you don't have high expectations)

and no sarah, bella doesn't mature much through all the series
which is disappointing because stephenie has so many situations where bella could've gotten better and so many stupid problems that came from her not maturing


message 206: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ My friend told me that Midnight Sun isn't getting published, but you can read it on Stephenie Meyer's website. She's given up on it, apparently.


message 207: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments Yeah i just read it.

Me and my sister just watched Twilight for the third time :P She loves it, i like it too, its much better than i expected, and its funny.

(no we didnt go to the movies three times what are you crazy? weve been watching it illegally on the internet shhh dont tell anyone)

I also thing that RP is pretty hott, ya know like in the shaggy way.

XD


message 208: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ lol. I love the movie. It's full of so many awesomely corny lines.
SAY IT. OUT LOUD. SAY IT!!!!
VAMPIRE.
XD


message 209: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments Lol!

ANd when Edward put his hand in front of his mouth like he smelled something bad!

Oh and when Rosalie dropped the Vase.

And when Emmett waved the kinfe,

haha i watched it three times.

haha


message 210: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ omg. hahaha it was sooo hilarious.


message 211: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments t was really funny. I actually loved that movie. I watched it three times yesterday, and im probably going to watch it today too.

Omg it was soo funny.

"The Feature is dead Angela! Dont bring it up again."

lOl i love Eric. But didnt Angela go out with Ben in the book?

I guess Ben became Eric in the movie.


message 212: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments it's funny how when we read things, it's not funny but when people actually says it, it becomes hilarious

oh yeah wasn't it ben? (i'm so confused!!!)

and jasper's actor is SO hot (and in the interview, jasper and alice are ALWAYS together!)


message 213: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments I know!!

Jasper was soo hot and Alice was such a good Alice!!!


message 214: by Brent (new)

Brent (brentguy) | 69 comments I just saw the movie and ... DAMN

I'm going to get my hands on the books as soon as possible. It's a shame that so many guys think it to be a "soap-opera" or "too girly."

Well, I'll admit it is kinda girly but it's great so I don't care.


message 215: by Sarah jean (new)

Sarah jean  blank (Sarahjean) the book is. i dont know about the movie. you cant judge a book by its movie.


message 216: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments The movie was funny.

The books sucked.


message 217: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments The movie was funny.

The books sucked.


message 218: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ i loved both ... but for different reasons. lol. oh and brent you are right. guys should totally read twilight. haha


message 219: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments a twi-guy is what they were saying on the interview thing where jackson and ashley kissed...

im really hoping those 2 get together (and that they last longer than most celebrity couples...)


message 220: by Brent (new)

Brent (brentguy) | 69 comments Jackson and Ashley? Are they some characters in the next book or something?


message 221: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ no ... actors.


message 222: by Court (new)

Court Ashley = Alice
Jackson = Jasper..I think..


message 223: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments yups

that would be really cool (but this is my fangirl mind speaking so ignore it)


message 224: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments My friend brok up with her "Boyfriend" (were 12 a tad too young) because compared to Edward cullen he was butt ugly.


message 225: by Court (new)

Court omg!!! LOL
**i would never do that..i'm not THAT crazy, no offence to ur friend..*


message 226: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments S'okay were not even that close!


message 227: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ wow. that is kinda stupid. especially considering that edward cullen DOESN'T EVEN EXIST!!! as painful as it is to admit it. lol



message 228: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments :P


message 229: by Brent (last edited Dec 04, 2008 05:39PM) (new)

Brent (brentguy) | 69 comments I do get tired of the phrase, "his perfect lips/chest/face" repeated over and over again ... but other than that, the book is awesome so far.


message 230: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments Overused words in Twilight

-Grimaced

-Velvety

-Murmur

-Topaz (ugh)

-Smoldered

Come on how many times are this word used in the book?


message 231: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments there are so many words in the dictionary
and she wrote 2,000 pages of words. (so a couple i can forgive)

but im not a rabid fangirl so while i love the story and would love to meet a jasper, im waiting for my own jasper (basically jasper without the blood-sucking trait)


message 232: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ same. i'm not one of those really die-hard fans but it's a great story.
like, i know that edward cullen does not exist. lol


message 233: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin lol, me too. i'm not like "OMG IM SOOO OBSESSED WITH TWILIGHT!" But I think it's a good book. And I loved the movie. XD

And yeah, Angela goes out with Ben in the books...I guess they changed that because they didn't want to have to add another character...


message 234: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ probably


message 235: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments yeah.


message 236: by Riley (new)

Riley (booksarecool) WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



STUPID ECONOMY RUINING MY LIFE!!!!!!!

MY MOM CAN'T TAKE ME TO SEE TWILIGHT THIS WEEK BECAUSE SHE ONLY HAS $25 FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


STUPID ECONOMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


message 237: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments that sux

but don't waste your money riley

you save a lot of money by just waiting for the DVD

watch it 200 times (a dime a watch!)


message 238: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments SCREW THE ECONOMY!!!

GO COMMIES!!

Lol jk. You can watch Twilight online 4 free at Supernovatube.com


message 239: by Court (new)

Court I'm seeing it again on Sunday XD
Can't wait(yes, i know it partly sucked but i like it just cuz..)


message 240: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments lol


message 241: by [deleted user] (new)

well, compared to other movies, this is actually pretty good. I mean, all movies have a bad point, and there's always that person who finds something nit-picky about it. But people who think twilight is good are people who like twilight. People who don't are people who don't like it. I don't think it's fair if people who don't like it say it's bad. This is entirely based on opinion. And in my opinion, it's a good movie
XD but that's just my opinion.


message 242: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 09, 2008 08:07PM) (new)

Ugh, HATE it.
It's so horrible... and it's the best one in the series.

Reasons why I hate Twilight:

1. Bella. She's whiny and inconsiderate, she's a damsel in destress, and she's EXTREME clumsy (I fall a lot, but come on, she's just way to extreme). She's also stupid. But oh, her looks are perfect, she's absolutely beautiful, and that's why Edward lovers her. Oh, and she smells absolutely delightful.
I told my friend that I didn't like Twilight and one reason was because of Bella.
me: "Edward only likes her because she smells good."
her: "Well, she's also supposed to be really pretty..."
NOTHING about her personality.
Also, at her old school, she's this weird kid. In Forks, she's miss popular, miss i-get-asked-out-by-everyone-cuz-i'm-beautiful. And the only reason she chose Edward over everyone else (the much nicer, sweeter guys) is because of his looks!

2. Edward. He's perfect in every way. Except that he can't stop himself from being in love. That's NOT a flaw. He's so perfect, he's boring. I don't like a book without flaws, why should I like a character without flaws? He's also a stalker. No, it's totally normal to only like a girl because of her looks and the way she smells. It's also normal to creep into her room every stinkin' night.

3. The plot. I know other people have said this, but it's SO true. There is no plot. Their everyday and nightly love being described isn't interesting! The only "climax" scene is at the END, and Bella gets knocked out at the beginning of it! And they don't recount anything!

4. Stephenie Meyer. She's living through the book. She wishes she could find someone perfect, and making teen girls think that Edward is real and someday he'll like them. She also describes the kissing scenes too much, and the "Oh edward" "oh Bella" scenes too much, and not enough conflict! This goes along with #3.

5. The Twi-hards. I used to like Twilight. Then I read breaking dawn and thought it was the 2nd worst book ever. But then people's responses when I said I only liked it "HOW COULD YOU??!!! HOW COULD YOU HATE TWILIGHT???!!! I HATE YOU, TRAITOR!!!" I mean, what the hell? All this over a book that's not very good? Come on, get a life, Twilight lovers!

6. Messages. Here are the messages it sens out to girls.
~If a bunch of guys like you, go for the hottest one, even if he's creepy, because only looks matter.
~It's perfectly OK for a guy to come into our room at night and watch you wihtout you knowing. In fact, it's romantic.
~It's fine to love a guy because he's hot, and the only reason he likes you is because you smell good.
~It's alright to get into all kinds of trouble and almost kill yourself. The GUY you love will come get you out.
~Whenever someone tries to give you something, whine about it. You know they could do better, just let them think you don't want presents until they give you everything.
~It's perfectly fine to get married at 18. And then you can get pregnent at 18! Oh, but you HAVE to be married fist, but of course it's alright to get married and have a kid at 18 years old!


message 243: by Paige (new)

Paige Miller I disagree, but watev


message 244: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments you've forgotten, it's all okay because there are vampires involved

if edward was an everyday guy, even if he was creepy and weird, half of this wouldn't have happened


message 245: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments OMG DR PEPPER HAVE YOU JOIND THE TWILIGHT HATERS GROUP?? YOU WOULD LOVE IT THERE!!

Also i agree with you 1000000000000000000000000000000000%!!!!!!




message 246: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments Wow Dr pepper, i did the same thing! I loved Twilight, then i read BD and i was like UGH. and then i re read them and it SUCKED!!!!! Plsssss join the Twilight Haters group if you havent already!


message 247: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments lol

that's one of the reasons i don't re-read books




message 248: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ Fair enough, but I hate how Twilight haters act like ALL ppl who like Twilight are brainless teenage girls who believe that Edward Cullen actually EXISTS. I mean, I like Twilight cuz it's an entertaining read. Sure, it has its flaws, but so does every book. It's definitely not one of the worst books out there. And just because I like it doesn't make me a conformist, and it doesn't mean that I actually believe in vampires or anything. Very few Twilight lovers are actually that obsessed. I know a lot of ppl who like Twilight, but they don't believe that Edward exists or anything. What's w/all the stereotypes about Twilight lovers, huh? guuuhhh it makes me so mad! Whenever I say I like Twilight, it's automatically like, "Oh, you must be an idiot then." It's so aggravating!


message 249: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments Hey i dont think that ALL Twilight-likers are brainless!! Just the ones that join the group and make topics like "Twilght haters are retards" Those are the brainless ones.


message 250: by Diana (new)

Diana  (higura_natume) | 931 comments lol

i wish jasper was real, ill admit that

but i know he isn't
which sux

but im reading midnight sun right now, edward's so funny...


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