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Book Clubs! > Iron Man, In Death Series, Buddy Read Challenge [Next Release: #61 Framed in Death -- September 2nd, 2025]

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message 351: by Shaitarn (new)

Shaitarn | 2185 comments I'm going to be late with the next one because of Jasmine Throne.


message 352: by JL (new)

JL | 54 comments Just finished #4/Rapture and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I am starting to see that she introduces characters and usually the logical choice is the bad guy. She did not wrap it up until the very end.

Just one random comment about Roarke and Eve's relationship. (view spoiler)

Of course I am going to continue reading. They are quite entertaining. Just curious to see how their relationship develops.

Also <3 Peabody. She adds so much humor to the series.


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments JL, I think neither one of them would kill each other if the other cheated, but I think that if that happened, it would be the end of the relationship completely. Both of them have big trust issues, with good reasons of course, but that type of betrayal would be something neither one could live with. So I think it's something they just say to each other...

About Roarke and him kissing her friends, I think it's just in good fun... If he was doing it in a lascivious manner, I would have a problem with it, but my friends when we were younger, we were all kissy and huggy and I never thought much of that at all... Really depends on the person and the relationship:)))

JL, so glad you are sticking with us:))))


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Nyssa | 1651 comments Welcome to the obsession umm, club, JL! :D

I had a similar reaction the first time Roarke seemed overly friendly, but I've realized that it's supposed to display his surprisingly loving nature and his known charm. No harm is intended in any way - they are now chosen, family. Eve's nearest and dearest will be his and vice-versa. You will see in another story when one of his friends kisses Eve.


message 355: by JL (last edited Dec 21, 2022 05:04PM) (new)

JL | 54 comments I figured it was all in good fun but it’s a little weird considering how intense they feel for each other. However, I can also appreciate that because they accept each other so completely the love overflows….

I also forgot to mention how the end of #3 made me cry. (view spoiler)


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Nyssa | 1651 comments JL wrote: "I also forgot to mention how the end of #3 made me cry. (view spoiler)."

Yeah.


message 357: by Tonari no Emily (new)

Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Nyssa wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "And Nyssa is a week ahead..."

Reading Holiday in Death fits the season. Plus, I had to borrow the omnibus from the library to read [book: Vengeance in Death|13..."


I just finished #5 and I feel like they can both make some comments to eachother that come off harsh, but end up apologizing for them later.

#5 I really appreciated the overall theme of Eve questioning herself on whether she's a good person (view spoiler)


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments JL, about #3's reveal, you are not kidding! So intense and painful to read!!!

Emily, about #5, I think this is what makes Eve likable. She has not been well socialized as a kid and found safety in becoming a cop, but she really struggles with trying to be better than she was raised to believe she is... She is a fighter, but she has no real self-esteem and she is trying hard to impose on herself the understanding of self worth which she lacks, but assigns to all of the victims she tries to find justice for... I can relate to that... I see people as beautiful ( not in a superficial way) in the vast majority, but I have to work on thinking that I rate at all... I think it's one of those things that comes with abuse... But you try to make life better for everyone and go on:)))


message 359: by Nirkatze (new)

Nirkatze | 20939 comments Nyssa wrote: "JL wrote: "I also forgot to mention how the end of #3 made me cry. (view spoiler)."

Yeah."


Ditto here--yeah. Was definitely worried about the same thing @JL--that memory review was both painful and a great relief.

@Emily--I really like the character moments you picked out to highlight Eve's struggle, and @Choko's character analysis. For such quickly digestible novels, there's a lot of meaty character to unpack!

@Nyssa--I'm definitely going to keep an eye out for that Peabody thing in book #7... sort of makes me think of all the character analysis talk we're doing too--we dive deep in one book--but the growth between each book seems to often get rewound a bit--almost like Robb either decided we still need said conflicts, or like a "previously on" recap... but then also thinking--what is more realistic? How many times does it take someone making a mistake, saying something stupid or mean, or learning something that engages empathy about someone before we actually change our behavior? Almost thinking that characters in books actually grow faster than real people, but we're used to seeing that... (gotta get that growth in before big climactic moment!) even though it's not necessarily realistic...?


message 360: by Tonari no Emily (new)

Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Nirkatze, I think you might be right about expecting more from fictional people xD


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Nyssa | 1651 comments I think Eve has managed to piss everybody off, at least once, in this book!
(view spoiler)

Oh, and I think I know who the killer is, but I have no idea why they're doing it.


message 362: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I agree... It's like beating your head into a wall trying to change the ingrained habits of people... But in books, we think they should change in the blink of an eye...

I am about 90% in book #6... This seems to have a bit more action than the previous ones. It gets intense at times... (view spoiler)

Am I the only one who wishes we had cars like those? I know the logistics of traffic would be hell, but I would love for us to try:)))


message 363: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments In book 6, I still have no idea who the killer is 90% in ...


message 364: by Nyssa (new) - added it

Nyssa | 1651 comments Completed #7; Holiday in Death.


Side Notes: (view spoiler)

My overall thoughts: (view spoiler)


message 365: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I finished book #6... This was good! I liked the twist and as I said, I had no idea who the killer was until the end...

I am with you, Nyssa, I really wish Eve and Summerset become kinder to each other, but I think at this point in time, the only reason they haven't killed each other is that they both love Roark.

I really like McNab and it was hilarious how disdainful he was when she asked him, the grandson of a Highlander, if he was Irish:)))

Nyssa, if you are done with the publisher pack, you might want to take a week off, so you don't burn out. I don't want to lose you as a buddy here:)))


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Nirkatze | 20939 comments Choko wrote: "I finished book #6... This was good! I liked the twist and as I said, I had no idea who the killer was until the end...

I am with you, Nyssa, I really wish Eve and Summerset become kinder to each..."


I started itches in my hindbrain when (view spoiler) I don't feel like I actually guessed it early, but I love looking back and seeing how all the clues fit together. Nicely played!


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Nyssa | 1651 comments Choko wrote: "Nyssa, if you are done with the publisher pack, you might want to take a week off so you don't burn out. I don't want to lose you as a buddy here:)))."

Thanks, Choko! :) I'm not going anywhere.

The omnibus contains up to book #10, but I had already decided to take a break after Holiday In Death.

Although I now see that a bonus story is up next, Midnight in Death, so I might sneak that one in over the weekend, then take a break.

I hope either the omnibus is still available or the library has a standalone copy of Conspiracy in Death when I'm ready to start again.


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Nyssa | 1651 comments I said "might" like there was any doubt that I wanted to read Midnight in Death ASAP. Ha! So, I'm reading it as part of another omnibus, Three in Death. Although it is the first short story in the series, it is the second one listed in the book (Why!?!)

Yeah, I'm laughing at myself too.

So, I'm 2.5 chapters in, and (view spoiler)


message 369: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I think she doesn't truly value her life. Not yet. When you have been raised with the sense that you are nothing, you don't have the same understanding that your life is precious and you tend to be careless with it. I know this so well... People think that you are brave, but it is not really true. What you are is very cognizant of the danger, and in the split moment before you put your life in danger for someone else, you decide that their life is definitely worth your sacrifice, since it isn't a sacrifice after all... I don't consider myself stupid, but I have saved several people's lives in very dangerous situations, and the thoughts that were going through my mind at the time were, ok, I might either get truly hurt or dead if I do this, but I am doing it anyway... It is a wildness that takes over, in which you act despite of the very clear danger, your adrenaline is pumping, and nothing about is brave... Only in the last several years have I began to consider my well-being and stopped acting in such self-destructive manner. I think it takes a lot of life experience and getting to middle age to grasp how precious and short life is and how you need to fight for it...

Nyssa, you have to let me know if she starts with the slightly paranormal elements in the first short story:)


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Nyssa | 1651 comments It sounds like you have been through some incredible (in every sense of the word) experiences, Choko! I am glad that you are with us here. I am sending (((HUGS))) if that is okay.

I was unaware that this series would take on a paranormal spin. I will keep an eye out for it.


message 371: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Thank you for the hugs!!!! <3:) Yeah, life is rough at times, but this is why it's so wonderful to survive long enough and understand how precious it is:)))

The novellas usually have a bit of supernatural or paranormal elements to them, but I don't remember if they started out that way. I get a kick out of those:)

Happy Holidays to all of you, my dear GR Friends!!! I am grateful and appreciate you all!!! ❤️


message 372: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35238 comments Mod
The paranormal short stories don't start until 22.5, I don't think...


message 373: by Tonari no Emily (new)

Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Choko wrote: "Thank you for the hugs!!!! <3:) Yeah, life is rough at times, but this is why it's so wonderful to survive long enough and understand how precious it is:)))

The novellas usually have a bit of supe..."


Ditto to Nyssa about the HUGS Choko! And a very Happy Holidays to you too! :)


message 374: by Tonari no Emily (new)

Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Started #6... about 20% in and yeah at this point I really have not a clue... But the theme for this is obviously vengeance.. Is that directed towards Rourke or Eve I wonder... (view spoiler)


message 375: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments This was the first book I had absolutely no idea who was the killer. The other books she always gave us at least a couple of suspects, this time, nothing... I enjoy them either way:)


message 376: by Monika (new)

Monika | 2311 comments Looks like I'll be catching up after New Year. Still no info from library about book 2...


message 377: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Don't worry, Monika, we will be here:)))


message 378: by Monika (new)

Monika | 2311 comments I would buy whole series if I won lottery LOL! No luck with that tho ;)


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Nyssa | 1651 comments Monika wrote: "I would buy whole series if I won lottery LOL! No luck with that tho ;)"

Same! And add the audio versions as well!


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Monika | 2311 comments Merry Christmas boys and girls!


message 381: by Brian (new)

Brian | 1681 comments Merry Christmas y’all. Love my book reading partners! Hope everyone has a great day


message 382: by Monika (new)

Monika | 2311 comments Yeah :) Watching Godzilla in original LOL! My little man is big Godzilla fan and his Daddy found him 2 disc edition movie and he decided to watch it in Japanese with English subtitles :)


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Timelord Iain | 35238 comments Mod
Merry Christmas


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Nyssa | 1651 comments Have a Very Happy Holiday Season!!


message 385: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Happy Holidays!


message 386: by Tonari no Emily (new)

Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Finished #6.. I did start to pick up on the "baddie", but only towards the last 20-10% (view spoiler)

These really are like police procedural TV shows. Great popcorn reads!


message 387: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Exactly! They go down very easy... I am about to start the short story...


message 388: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I was wrong. I am up to Book #7, Holiday in Death... I guess, as Nyssa said, perfect for the season:)))


message 389: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35238 comments Mod
We are supposed to start that one tomorrow... perfect timing :D

Nice coincidence... I think I mentioned this before, about how book 8 will start the super tight timeline to the series going forward... most of a year passes in the In Death world, across these first 7 books, then it's like 20 books per in-series year...


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Nyssa | 1651 comments I just extended my library loan for Vengeance in Death / Holiday in Death / Conspiracy in Death / Loyalty in Death / Witness in Death. I will probably start Conspiracy in Death soon. I've tried reading two other books, but nothing else keeps my attention.

Edited to Add: Happy Boxing day!


message 391: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments So, I am about 35% in Holidays in Death, book # 07... Three "days" of Christmas behind us... (view spoiler)


message 392: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Nyssa, I know exactly what you mean. I guess it is the writing, but with the insanity of the holidays, this series is the only one that is able to keep my attention and feel satisfying... Maybe because we have already gotten into the cadence of the storytelling and the character familiarity... Whatever it is, it hits the spot...


message 393: by Nirkatze (new)

Nirkatze | 20939 comments I just started #7 Holiday yesterday too! Not sure I'll have much time to listen/read since visiting folks this week. But I definitely got a tickle out of reading a story with a holiday theme right at the holidays--I don't think I've actually ever done that before.

That first crime though... yikes. Brutal.

And Happy Boxing Day folks!


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Nyssa | 1651 comments Choko wrote: "Nyssa, I know exactly what you mean. I guess it is the writing, but with the insanity of the holidays, this series is the only one that is able to keep my attention and feel satisfying... Maybe bec..."

It's crazy. I just downloaded a short story to my Kindle, went to open it, and immediately changed my mind. Like Nope-That's not what I want!!


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Nyssa | 1651 comments I give up.

I'm starting Conspiracy in Death. Based on the Prologue, this will be a doozy of a case!!

Also, this book is longer than the others; not only is there a prologue, there are 22 chapters instead of 20!


message 396: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Holidays in Death, #7... 55% in... after day 4 ... (view spoiler)


message 397: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35238 comments Mod
20% into Holiday in Death... (view spoiler)


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Timelord Iain | 35238 comments Mod
Choko wrote: "Nyssa, I know exactly what you mean. I guess it is the writing, but with the insanity of the holidays, this series is the only one that is able to keep my attention and feel satisfying... Maybe bec..."

I enjoyed my Children of Time re-read... and Mercy Thompson #9 re-read... between being sick and the holidays, I've done alot of re-reads on my TBR (planned re-reads, nothing truly spontaneous... just paused new material reads)...


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Timelord Iain | 35238 comments Mod
Choko wrote: "So, I am about 35% in Holidays in Death, book # 07... Three "days" of Christmas behind us.."

(view spoiler)


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Nyssa | 1651 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "I enjoyed my Children of Time re-read... and Mercy Thompson #9 re-read... between being sick and the holidays, I've done alot of re-reads on my TBR (planned re-reads, nothing truly spontaneous... just paused new material reads).."

I hope you're feeling better, TI!


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