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Iron Man, In Death Series, Buddy Read Challenge [Next Release: #61 Framed in Death -- September 2nd, 2025]
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Really enjoying Mavis. She's quite a character, with quite the wardrobe. I'm glad Eve has such a free spirit friend.
Just met Peabody a bit ago. Will be happy to see her come back in again later.
Audible is telling me I'm in Chapter 15--with the father/son shenanigans, and it is making me angry... one quote from another book (Firekeeper's Daughter) keeps popping in to my head: (view spoiler)
@Shaitarn--I wanted (view spoiler) to be the murderer too. I keep thinking who could it be, for reals? and my options are (view spoiler) and I doubt it's either, but it's fun to guess.
Not feeling Roarke yet, but am starting to get a better feel for Eve and some side characters. Not-an-Android butler dude is amusing. I like the tech guy (Feeney?) who often helps Eve. Haven't caught names on most other folks yet. :)

@Nyssa--Butters! High-five!
@Choko--definitely need more cat cameos. And I know it's almost a month later, but best wishes to your father too!
Also very much agreeing on the expensive presents thing... a definite way to make someone feel uncomfortable... I like to think that with presents, the importance is how much thought and research you put into it on the person, and what they want and need, not on how much $$ you can throw around... though if someone wanted to buy me a full collection of Sanderson leatherbounds I wouldn't say no. :) I *would* say no to expensive jewelry.
Oh yay page 4 in comments! oh no it's all book 3! >.<

So much for St. Mary’s next, Nirkatze…
And Rourke gets better at gifting later on… they sponsor a skill center for orphans, I think?… Philanthropy in Eve’s name or both their names…
And Rourke gets better at gifting later on… they sponsor a skill center for orphans, I think?… Philanthropy in Eve’s name or both their names…


The way the narrator does Peabody is adorable! It might be one of the reasons I love her so much:)))

Polka will never die!!"
POLKA WILL NEVER DIE! Oh I love Butters...
Though I'm also really coming to appreciate Peabody--a good dry sense of humor is also a fav for me. Glad she's getting more screen time in book 3.

Yeah... that was the plan--I wanted to get halfway through In Death, but I thought y'all were starting book 4--then someone had to say they were starting book 5, so now I have to do 3 first before returning to St. Mary's... Fortunately I've only got the first 4 on audio, so I should be able to do St. Mary's 13 and book 5 here simultaneously, after Ocean's Echo...
Glad to hear that Roarke gets better at gift giving--I rather like the idea of giving to charity in someone's name. @Choko, your comments on starting small makes me wonder if people with uber $$ have a different idea of what constitutes "small"...

That is a really interesting insight--the child being shamed into the straight path--I can see that working in East Asian cultures as well... but then I'm thinking also--that's not going to work on a psychopath/sociopath, megalomaniac, or demagogue...

Nirkatze wrote: "Up to Chapter 6 in book 3--and there's this scene where a sex goddess walks in to the interview room (didn't catch her name), takes a puff from a cigarette and blows it out in a cloud of smoke, and..."
That's how I felt when I switched to audio... the tight timelines between books, and tropey nature at times...
That's how I felt when I switched to audio... the tight timelines between books, and tropey nature at times...

Nyssa, that is the reason I enjoy them too, and they are such fast reads, it feels like an ongoing TV series...

On TV I love police procedurals, but usually only like my book mystery with a side of SF/F... the Eve/Roarke combo gives me Lucifer vibes for rich guy who can grease wheels & spunky cop...
Timelord Iain wrote: "That's how I felt when I switched to audio... the tight timelines between books, and tropey nature at times..."
The tight timeline makes me wonder about real police officers--do they have as tight of a caseload? I don't think murders happen this often in my town... but in a big place like NYC?
Up to Chapter 9 now--and are they setting up Peabody & narcotics dude????
Pretty much nothing moves as fast as cop shows... it's always weeks/months of investigating and evidence gathering... more like what you'd see in Bosch...
I think real life cops disparage the easy clues and eyewitness testimony, common in cop shows... but, how else are you going to resolve the plot in 42 minutes...
A town like NYC is gonna have this many murders... but there are like 100 precincts in NYC, splitting the caseload...
I think real life cops disparage the easy clues and eyewitness testimony, common in cop shows... but, how else are you going to resolve the plot in 42 minutes...
A town like NYC is gonna have this many murders... but there are like 100 precincts in NYC, splitting the caseload...

I think real life cops disparage the easy..."
No kidding on all three fronts. I think I read something once about real cops scoffing at turnaround times for any kind of evidential analysis--more like a few months compared to TV show's hours to a few days...
I'd be curious to ask police officers if there are any TV shows they feel do get some aspects accurately--I remember watching the Rookie, and liking that it was all beat-cop--very rarely were there big cases, and it was all about helping the people you come across on the daily routine, and lots of paperwork afterwards. And then there's British shows, or the occasional limited series, where it's one case for a whole season instead of murder-of-the-day...
Choko wrote: "Book #3 ... Ch. 12-13 were rough to read, all emotional and stuff... I had no idea she came to remember so early in the series... Mira wa..."
Up to chapter 13 and just passed the big makeover party. Leonardo's friends are a bunch of fun, especially the hairdresser. Great voices too. Is the hairdresser Trina? Great character.
Very tough to listen through ch. 13. (view spoiler)


Book 3, up through chapter 15. Getting the same feelings for narcotics guy (name doesn't stick) as y'all were. I really don't like someone who flirts and feels it is ok to touch in flirting--especially when they've been told point blank that the subject is not interested and off-limits--not to mention that he's leading Peabody on...


At your own pace Monika! We're here. :)

Yeah, I really identified with her little drunken chat about her little "paunch" and how everyone in her family has it--and how she's saving up to have it suctioned... and how her boyfriend liked skinny guys. No no no--she deserves someone who will love her for her, and love her little jelly belly for itself.

Also agreeing with Nyssa about the show scene--Eve should have been able to turn off the cop for her friend for at least until the end of it. Seriously.
Yay! Made it to p5 of the comments! Almost caught up there!
Enjoying the series ok, but not loving it. Enjoying being able to chat about the books more than the books themselves, but they are ok listen candy. A lot of the 90s machismo etc still bugs me a lot. Will keep going with y'all until I can't though. :) Swapping to St. Mary's for a spell.


I was thinking of that one in particular! Such a great series. A lot of BBC productions are like that... I was also thinking of The Killing (which I believe was based on a Danish show)...
I've started Ceremony in Death... I forgot about this one... pretty close to a paranormal story... more what I associate with the later short stories from book 22-45...
One of the characters is even named Alice... seems like a clear allusion to Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass... even though I know there's a later short story called Wonderment in Death
One of the characters is even named Alice... seems like a clear allusion to Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass... even though I know there's a later short story called Wonderment in Death


Iain, I just started #5 as well and yes, definitely some paranormal stuff is implied, although I am like Eve, sceptical about it...


Choko wrote: "Book #5...I am not clicking, because I am only up to Ch. 5 right now..."
Peabody gets the best one-liners / responses to Eve's straight man routine...
Later on, there's something about cameras at a press conference maybe, and getting her best angle, and Eve says she's sitting on it... which could be taken as an insult... but Peabody is like "thanks, I've been working on it" with her exercise routine comments... and I think that came right after another one-liner...
Peabody gets the best one-liners / responses to Eve's straight man routine...
Later on, there's something about cameras at a press conference maybe, and getting her best angle, and Eve says she's sitting on it... which could be taken as an insult... but Peabody is like "thanks, I've been working on it" with her exercise routine comments... and I think that came right after another one-liner...

Although J.D. Robb is usually terrific about giving us alternative suspects, I'm not buying it. (view spoiler)
I am apprehensive about (view spoiler)


Yeah. I did feel that way.
There were a few emotionally brutal scenes in this one!
End of the book: (view spoiler)


Ditto on Choko, Monika, fingers crossed for the strike to be resolved amicably and quickly and for the books to fall into your hands!
@JL welcome!! Plenty of us are running late and starting late, so you're in good company. :) I'm only up to #3 so far.

Narilka, about Jaimie, (view spoiler)

I enjoy it when a series book references previous installations' events. It makes the series feel that much more connected and cohesive.
So I was pleasantly surprised to see a solid link to book #1 ( Naked in Death). I hope Roarke's plan works out! It would be awesome to revisit it in later books.

I really like Peabody (her Halloween outfit made me smile).
Summerset:(view spoiler)

I'm pretty used to it at this point too.. But yeah real life they definitely don't do that.
Nyssa wrote: "I don't know the narrator's name, but twice now, in two different books, she has pronounced "forte" as "fort," and it is killing me!"
THANK YOU that bothered me so much and had me questioning my pronunciation lol
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