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OFFICIAL SPRING CHALLENGE - 2009

This brings me to 340 points.
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Figures in Silk A Novel - this book was awesome - just the kind of historical fiction I love - wonderful fictional main character interacting with real historical figures. This book takes place in the years leading up to the Tudors during the reign of Edward and his brother Richard but it's not about the royals it's about women of the silk trade and trying to change the status quo. I liked her first book Portrait of an Unknown Woman A Novel but I liked this one much better than that - it kept me wanting to know more in a way that one didn't. Next I'm on to the 50 pointer.
My TASKS
5 POINTS
1. Science Fiction or Fantasy Novel - The Sweet Far Thing by Libba Bray
2. Epistolary Novel - The Boy Next Door - Meg Cabot
7. Arbor Day - The Color Line - Lizette Carter (plan to recycle with paperbackswap or donate to the library when I'm done)
9. “Spring” Animals - Dating Big Bird - Laura Zigman
10. April Showers Bring May Flowers - The Ballroom on Magnolia Street - Sharon Owens
10 POINTS
1. St. Patrick’s Day - There's No Place Like Here - Cecelia Ahern
2. Cinco De Mayo - The Wild Girl - Jim Fergus
3. ANZAC Day - People of the Book - Geraldine Brooks
7. Mother’s Day - Too Hot to Handle - Robin Kaye (my mom's name is Robin) or Across the Color Line by Lizette Carter (she gave it to me)
8. Memorial and Armed Forces Day - Dear John - Nicholas Sparks
9. TNBBC Top Books - Number 91 (I was born in 1982) - The Eyre Affair - Jasper Fforde
15 POINT TASKS
2. National Poetry Month - The Book of Irish Verse - John Montague
5. Award Winner - The Witches Of Eastwick - John Updike
9. Color/Food - One Thousand White Women: The Journals Of May Dodd - Jim Fergus (not sure what I'm making yet)
25 POINT TASKS
2. EL'S TASK - Eden's Outcasts: the story of Louisa May Alcott and her Father by John Matteson
4. ROS' TASK - Katherine by Anya Seton
6. JON'S TASK - Eleanor of Aquitaine: a life by Alison Weir
7. DARLA'S TASK - Persuasion by Jane Austen as mentioned in The Lake House
8. CASSIE'S TASK - A Great and Terrible Beauty & Rebel Angels by Libba Bray
9. SARA'S TASK - Old Friends and New Fancies: An Imaginary Sequel to the Novels of Jane Austen by Sybil G. Briton
50 POINTER
Kiss the Bride - Patricia Cabot
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I get most books online from BN. Also, if she comes to Seoul, there's a bookstore that has an entire English language section. It's called Kyobo. She should look it up. If she takes the subway to it, the entrance to the store is right there on the subway line, and right in the front on the left is the English language section. Plus on post is a library. Is she on a post?

She's not on a post--my dad's working over there for Korean Aerospace Industries (he's a Mechanical Engineer), and they're just living in an apartment among the locals. Looks like Kyobo has a wikipedia page and an all-Korean website (my dad can have his coworkers look at it for him). It looks like they have 10 store locations, so maybe there's one in Pusan or somewhere closer to them! Thanks for the info--I'll pass it on!

In Honor of Women's History Month-5 points-Metro Girl
For Arbor Day read an e-book: Assassin Study
Karen's Task, A book which title starts with letter G Grave Sight; a Book which title starts with the letter R Redwall 25 points
25 points, Cassie's Task: Read two young adult novels: Wildwood Dancing and Uglies
25 points: Bonnie's Task: Read a book outside your nomral genres: Forest of Hands and Teeth -- My first zombie book!

Glad to know I'm not alone on that! I didn't think it was a *bad* book, just kind of slow and not particularly interesting. Though the plot didn't proceed exactly as I'd expected, it still was more-or-less predictable. I might have liked it at the age of sixteen (back when I was a big fan of Pride & Prejudice and relatively new to classic romance) but now I just find it kind of meh. Oh, well! Still got my ten points :-D

5 Points
1. Sci-Fi: Day Watch - Lukyanenko
6. Girl in Title: Little Girl Lost - Richard Aleas
7. E-Book: A Doll's House - Henrik Ibsen
15 Points
6. Translation: The Stranger - Camus
8. Interview: Dreams from My Father - Barack Obama
25 Points
5. Atypical Genre: Watchmen (Graph. Novel) - Moore
Edit: Now 70 points.
I'm working on some others as well:
10 Points
4. Spring Birthday: Two for the Money - Max Allan Collins
5. Magic: Turn Coat - Jim Butcher
9. TNBBC List: The Road - Cormac McCarthy
10. Other Member's 5-Star: A Thousand Splendid Suns
15 Points
3. Group Read: People of the Book - Brooks
7. Rhymes: Wide Sargasso Sea; Pinball 1973
25 Points
4. BBC Big Read: Love in the Time of Cholera - Marquez
8. Two YA Novels: Persepolis 1 & 2 - Marjane Satrapi
9. Long Title: Pride and Prejudice and Zombies: The Classic Regency Romance - Now with Ultraviolent Zombie Mayhem! - Seth Grahame-Smith

I think this is one of the few times that the film is better than the book. I found the book to be very slow in places and I've really struggled to get through it.
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5 Points
8. Humor: Pride and Prejudice and Zombies - Seth Grahame-Smith"
Welcome! Also, I don't know if you've chosen a 12+ word title book to read for my 25-point task (#9)... but the full title of the your humor book (Pride and Prejudice and Zombies: The Classic Regency Romance - Now with Ultraviolent Zombie Mayhem!) would count, if you wanted to bump up your points. To me, it seems easier to find another humor book than to find another book with a ridiculously long title...
Just a friendly suggestion!

I completely forgot about the rest of P&P&Z's title! Thanks for the suggestion. Now I feel better about finishing a book with 19 words in the title on February 27th.

Gratz, Rory! My little one just turned 3 months. It is truly the best experience ever!

I completely forgot about the rest of P&P&Z's title! Thanks for the suggestion. Now I feel better about finishing a book with 19 words in the title on February 27th."
No problem! I think long titles are really fun...

5 Points
1. Sci-Fi: Day Watch - Lukyanenko
6. Girl in Title: Little Girl Lost - Richard Aleas
15 Points
6. ..."Welcome to the challenge Sam - nice try on the rhyming task but the same word can't be used to rhyme with itself - otherwise you're good.
I also finished Queen of Babble for half the 50 point task I picked it up today and just had to finish it - it was a really nice quick fun story...a bit predictable as most books in this genre are but still funny and cute - a good break from all the historical stuff I've been reading lately - and I think it would translate really well to the big screen and I look forward to reading the other 2 books in the series although that will have to wait - maybe the summer challenge:).
I'm reading a Patricia Cabot book for the other part of the task - back to historical stuff but a little more on the romancey side I think than the last few I've read.

- I.E. if you read Stephen King’s The Green Mile (you could have a mixed green salad and pasta with pesto sauce; or a kiwi and a bowl of mint ice cream for dessert).
A Bright Red Scream by Marliee Strong-4/27
For lunch I had Subway with tomatoes, pepperoni and a couple of red Jellie Bellies
New Total: 320
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Okay, in light of that, I'm adding these list items:
5 Points
7. E-Book: A Doll's House - Henrik Ibsen
10 Points
8. (American Revolution) Veteran: American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House
So that'll still net 80 points.
My other e-book that I haven't read yet, Pinball 1973, rhymes with Wide Sargasso Sea.
So, it looks like I should thank you for disallowing the house/house!

The opening sequence was extraordinarily powerful and there were some strong elements to the novel, but somehow I never connected with the characters. Given the subject matter, perhaps that is just as well.
Tasks Completed: 18/40
Pages Read: 6392
New Total: 360 pts.
Liz (Bklyn)

Okay, in light of that, I'm adding these list items:
5 Poi..."I'm afraid that won't work either a date rhyming with a word - if it was spelled out in the title then yes Nineteen Seventy-Three would rhyme with Wide Sargasso Sea but the number itself no.

I'm still trying to figure out how a word doesn't rhyme with itself or how that's not okay when it wasn't stipulated in the rules, but in no universe does 3 not rhyme with Sea--regardless of how it's written. But, you know, it's not my game, so never mind.



8. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn & The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
I really liked both of these books. I think I liked A Tree Grows in Brooklyn a little bit better though. The Boy in the Striped Pajamas was a quick read and I've always enjoyed Holocaust related books so I enjoyed this one.
New total: 135

One of my students lent it to me, but I haven't had a chance to start it yet. I can tell you that she (my student) really liked it.

I'm almost finished with P&P&Z and I love it. There are parts that are (for me) laugh out loud funny. In fact, on Friday my students asked me to stop reading it because I was disturbing their reading time with my chuckles.

5 points:
1. Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card (sci-fi)
2. The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky (epistolary)
4. Xenocide by Orson Scott Card (plane from NY, NY - Wichita, KS and back)
7. A Princess of Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs (e-book, Project Gutenburg)
10 points:
7.The Pact A Love Story by Jodi Picoult (recommended and given by my mother)
25 point:
BONNIE'S TASK- Newjack Guarding Sing Sing by Ted Conover (non-fiction)
SARA'S TASK - Loser Goes First My Thirty-Something Years of Dumb Luck and Minor Humiliation by Dan Kennedy
Total: 80 points

I'm s..."The word Three does yes rhyme with the word Sea but the numerical digit 3 isn't a word and therefore can't rhyme from my perspective - I made that ruling earlier in the game so I'm trying to keep everything even and equal.

DONNA JO - 575
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BJ ROSE - 535
LIZZI - 525
SANDY - 520
BRIDGIT - 505
KRISTEN IL - 480
WENDY - 455
KRISTENR - 445
RORA - 435
SHARON - 430
LEORA - 410
MEGHAN - 410
BETH MN - 405
ASHLEY ID - 400
CAIT - 395
TINA - 395
JOSIE - 385
LOUISE - 370
RORY - 370
BEV - 365
BONNIE - 365
LIZ BRKLYN - 360
KRISTINA GA - 345
APRIL NY - 340
AMY - 330
ALICE - 325
ANGELA IL - 320
KRITIKA - 315
NICOLE NC - 315
REBECCA J - 310
SARANICOLE - 310
MAGGIE - 305
CATHEROO - 295
CYNTHIA (SCM) - 295
PERS - 295
EL - 290
LINDSEY - 285
ELIZABETH NC - 280
EVA - 280
JESSICA IL - 280
JUDITH IA - 280
RHIANNON - 280
SUSAN - 280
ANGIE - 275
MARY BETH - 275
LAURA NY - 270
LORI TX - 265
SANDIE - 265
COURTNEY - 255
SUZIER - 250
ROSEANN - 245
JON - 230
LYNLEE4 - 225
JAMIE MN - 220
STEPHANIE CA - 220
FIONA (TITCH)- 215
JOY - 215
KRISTINA UK - 215
STEPH - 215
RENFREW - 210
BECKY - 200
SARA E - 200
FALLON - 195
MALIADES - 195
ALISHA - 190
ASHLEY AL - 190
ELIZABETH (ALASKA) - 190
CAROL - 185
HAYES - 185
WV HEATHER - 185
JILLIAN - 180
KATE - 180
MANDAY - 175
SERA - 170
VICTORIA - 170
JENNIFER IN - 165
JOANNA - 165
LIZ VEGAS - 160
POTJY - 155
LILY - 150
ROS - 150
CYNDEE - 145
MARIE - 145
MEGAN - 145
DAVID - 140
JEN B - 140
KATHRYN - 140
TRYPHENA - 140
KAREN - 135
LACY - 135
SARAH PA - 135
HEATHER KS - 130
JEGKA - 130
JOANIE - 130
JULIE (ID)'S - 130
RYAN - 130
TRACY - 130
ANN FROM SC - 125
NATALIA - 125
CASSIE - 120
SLAYERMEL - 120
KICKI - 115
SUSANNA UK - 115
ABBIE - 110
BETH - 110
MELODY - 110
CATHERINE - 105
JEANE - 105
LINDA - 105
ASHLEY UT - 100
CYNTHIA - 100
JESSICA SC - 100
SHANNON - 100
TERRI - 100
AMANDA - 95
REBECCA - 95
JENNY - 90
MACKENZIE - 90
MADELINE - 90
SAI - 90
JEN MD - 85
LAUREN - 85
MEREDITH H - 85
SAM - 80
JULIE TN - 75
JULIE UK - 75
MEL - 75
RACHEL - 75
SHELLIE - 70
SLAIMI - 70
ALLISON MO - 65
JESSICA MI - 65
JOANN - 65
ALYSSA - 60
KELLY - 60
JAMIE WA - 55
ROBIN - 55
VICKI - 55
KATIE - 50
KIM - 50
5PEASINAPOD - 45
ELIZ - 45
KELLY MA - 45
JULIE KS - 40
LDB - 40
LISA CO - 40
LIZ NY - 40
TOBIE - 40
JAMIE 23 - 35
JUDITH NY - 30
DOROTHY - 25
JAIME 26 - 25
KRISTI - 25
MELISSA - 25
LAZARUS - 20
NICOLE CA - 20
CAITLIN - 15
JENNI - 15
GREG - 10
MARY - 10
MORGAN - 10
MICHELLE - 5
SHELBY - 5

1 - Coraline by Neil Gaiman
2 - Anne Frank The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank
5 - Memnoch the Devil by Anne Rice
6 - Girl, Interrupted by Susanna Kaysen
8 -
10 - The House of Thunder by Dean Koontz
10 Points
1 - In the Woods by Tana French
2 - Like Water for Chocolate by Laura Esquivel
3 - not yet
4 - Practical Magic by Alice Hoffman
6 - Midnight Sun by Stephenie Meyer
7 - Pandora by Anne Rice
8 - Cold Mountain by Charles Frazier
9 - I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith
15 Points
1 - Nightmare in Pink by John D. MacDonald
2 -
4 - Blindness by José Saramago
5 - People of the Book by Geraldine Brooks
7 - ---
8 - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling audiobook
10 - ---
25 Points
1 - not yet
2 - not yet
3 - not yet
6 - not yet
9 - not yet
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Task 25.5: a book outside my usual genre: I read a collection of poems by John Betjeman for 25 points.
TOTAL POINTS = 100

Total Points: 395

Five Point Tasks
2 Letters: Paper Darts by Virginia Woolf
3. Spring Cleaning: Girl with a Pearl Earring
6. Women's History: Smart Blonde
10 Point Tasks
2. Mexican Theme: The Crystal Frontier
3. ANZAC Day: Rabbit Proof Fence
4. Author B'Day Heat and Dust or prodigal summer
5. Book with Magic: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
7. Mother's Day: Moominvalley in November
8. Armed Forces Day: The Ghost Road
15 Points
3. TNBBC Group Read:Extremely Loud
4. Spring Visit: Possession A Romance
5. Award Winning Author: Schindler's List by Thomas Keneally (won Miles Franklin Award for Australian Literature in 1968)
6. Translated Book: The Shadow of the Wind
7. Rhyming Books: The Remains of the Day / The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay
8. Get to Know the Author: Colonyread online interviews
9. Book with Colour Title: A Patch of Blue
10. 3-4-5: The Horse and His Boy,Prince Caspian, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
25 Points
1. G/R The Gathering/The Road Home
3. Jamie's Shelves: Interpreter of Maladies and
5. Off Genre - True Crime Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
9. Saras Crazy Title : The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Other Stories, Robert Louis Stevenson
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Some snails hibernate during the winter (typically October through April in the Northern Hemisphere). They may also estivate in the summer in drought conditions. To stay moist during hibernation, a snail seals its shell opening with a dry layer of mucus called an epiphragm.
So if it hibernates in the winter, coming out in the spring would make it a spring animal, right? Thanks!!!

5 Points
#2 P.S. Longer Letter Later
10 Points
#4 Private by Kate Brian - birthday March 11, 1974.
#5 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
#9 84, Charing Cross Road born in 1988.
#10 1st to Die Fiona gave it a 5-star and we both joined this group on the same page!
15 Points
#2 Where the Sidewalk Ends
#6 Night Originally written in French
#8 Identical The link to the interview I read is http://www.teensreadtoo.com/Interview...
25 Points
#7 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets This appeared in the movie "Cinderella Story"
#9 He's Just Not That Into You The No-Excuses Truth to Understanding Guys
Total Points: 140
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1) I wish you had mentioned that earlier. I'd suggest that you might want to think about how punitive a decision like that is; you said "can't rhyme" rather than "it rhymes, but it's my rules in my game," which is a different situation entirely. When learning to read, most of us learn by visual recognition and phonetic interpretations. We have no separate process for learning numbers and other non-words. Thus, there is no other way to read "3" than "three." I challenge anyone to refute that claim. What about other non-words? Does "My parents said if I got a D/They'll take away my liberty" not rhyme? Or, what about "If I don't pay my taxes to the I.R.S./I'll be under loads of duress"? Letters and abbreviations aren't words, right? Yet you can still see that the last two couplets I included clearly rhyme. Finally, are you really arguing that a couplet like "My jaw hit the floor/When I read Orwell's 1984" doesn't rhyme?
2) As to two words not making a rhyme, I'd point you to The OWL at Purdue, one of the best academic websites on grammar and other writing-related things. Same-word rhymes are acceptable; they're called "identical rhymes." One of the definitions of rhyme is "correspondence in terminal sounds of units or composition or utterance"
(this definition also helps justify the numeral thing as well). The fact that both of my titles ended in the word "house" passes the smell test for "rhyme" for both Merriam-Webster and Purdue University.
This isn't Internet hate...clearly, you've done a lot of good work here. This whole rhyme thing just goes against a lot of other information and previous knowledge. If you're talking about your challenge, that's one thing (and obviously your prerogative), but I hope we can all agree that rhyming numerals (and other non-words) as well as same words is perfectly acceptable in poetry.

New total 215 points, which means I've exceeded by 200 point target so I've raised that to 300

Sam, I think the point is that this is a challenge. There's not much challenge to using identical rhymes. Something you can do with this challenge is ask questions before you read books. Several people make a post asking Cynthia if she would accept a specific book for a certain task. That way you don't wind up reading something that does not work for a task. As far as rhyming goes, most people (including the writers of the world) would not initially look at the challenge idea and say, "Hey, I can read two books with the same word in the title!" Identical rhymes is still pooh-poohed by a lot of the literary world as it is considered rather an easy out, unartful.
In any case, as it says in the actual instructions for that task, By this I mean that there is a word in the title of one book that rhymes with a word in the other book’s title the wording indicates that two different rhyming words should be used.
Whether or not it's acceptable in poetry is sort of irrelevant at this point in the discussion as Cynthia has already stated her case.


Whose spring challenge posed quite a jam
Yes, "3" rhymes with sea
But it's a digit, you see
So move on and knock off the spam
:)

Whose spring challenge posed quite a jam
Yes, "3" rhymes with sea
But it's a digit, you see
So move on and knock off the spam
:)"
How is it spam? He made some valid points and just wanted some clarification/to prove his case.

Whose spring challenge posed quite a jam
Yes, "3" rhymes with sea
But it's a digit, you see
So move on and knock off the spam
:)"
That was cute!

Whose spring challenge posed quite a jam
Yes, "3" rhymes with sea
But it's a digit, you see
So move on and knock off the spam
:)"
How is it..."
I couldn't think of another word that rhymed - it's still before-coffee hour in my neck of the woods !

Whose spring challenge posed quite a jam
Yes, "3" rhymes with sea
But it's a digit, you see
So move on and knock off the spam
:)"
How is it..."
P.S. - I agree, April, but I've seen these discussions take on a life of their own and a little levity may serve to remind all of us that this is a game - a most enjoyable game - and both Cynthia's and Sam's thoughts have been clearly clarified - time to move on...

Whose spring challenge posed quite a jam
Yes, "3" rhymes with sea
But it's a digit, you see
So move on and knock off the spam
:)"
How ..."
Oh, yeah, the pre-coffee thing happens to me too! I need it to function, and luckily I've already had a cup!!

Laughter of Dead Kings - Elizabeth Peters and Sons of the Wolf - Barbara Michaels.
Both authors were among my favorites, and LoDK was the conclusion of my favorite series, but since it came over 10 years after the last book, it definitely appeared that she just wrote the book to finish the series rather than becuase there was a real story to tell. Disappointed overall. I had read the Sons of the Wolf before - probably 15 years ago. I guess that's why i found it so predictable!!
Total points: 505

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Total Points: 85
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I felt the same way about ICTC, but I believe we're in the minority on that! "
I'm in the middle of it, but if the first 4 chapters are any indication..... I may be in the minority as well. It just isn't capturing my attention at the moment. Of course, I haven't given it much effort so far, so we shall see....