Pandemonium
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Alex or Julian???
Julian is a pansy!!! . . .just kidding. That was just my first thought of his personality. I don't really care who Lena ends up with, as long as the story is good. I don't want anyone to get hurt! But i guess if I absolutely HAD to choose, I would pick Alex because Lena and Alex were together first. Alena! ok, maybe I do care.
Lauren Oliver better make me love Julian over Alex in the third book if she's not gonna have Lena & Alex end up together. It's hard not to root for Alex since we were exposed to more of Lena with Alex, all the cute and romantic times they had, and the development of her ability to discover and accept love, all thanks to Alex.Although I wouldn't be surprised if Lauren Oliver is aiming for some kind of...love lost, first cut is the deepest, some things aren't meant to be, it's not the end, you can love again, love who they used to be...sort of theme. haha
Clary wrote: "I just read this one on tumblr and i want to share it with you guys :)Alex: Lena and I always hang out on a mansion! Beat that!
Julian: Lol, we were locked in a room for weeks.
Lena: .....
Alex: ..."
Thanks for the laugh :P
Monica wrote: "Julian is a pansy!!! . . .just kidding. That was just my first thought of his personality. I don't really care who Lena ends up with, as long as the story is good. I don't want anyone to get hurt..."
Could not agree more :)
I felt no connection to Julian at all! Lena's affection for Julian was definitely out of necessity. That and I think that she felt like she needed to find something that could replace loss of Alex. I want her to pick Alex because throughout the whole book she was thinking about Alex while she was with Julian. You know she isn't "over" him. I don't think Julian could ever compare to what she had with Alex.
Nina wrote: "I felt no connection to Julian at all! Lena's affection for Julian was definitely out of necessity. That and I think that she felt like she needed to find something that could replace loss of Alex...."amen. :)
Believe me when I say I love Alex, and I am definitely on his team. But as I imagine what will happen in the third book, it's most likely Lena is going to end up with Julian,i can imagine her and Alex fighting at the beginning of Requiem about Julian. Alex introduced her to a new world and let her find her way, but Julian was the one she truly bonded and connected with, specially because she was to him what Alex was to her. I hate the fact that Julian might win, maybe Oliver will kill him off (is it cruel that I wish she would?), but whatever happens, I'm still rooting for Alex..
Juilian. The love seems more real. I didnt really feel Alec and Lena connection.
Courtines wrote: "I don't know which one to root for. Alex's only line of dialog in the book was intentionally ambiguous. It is hard to say whether he even still wants Lena. Lena obviously still wanted him up to her..."i think he still wants her and he is still uncured becuase he says at the end of the second book "dont believe her" you dont say that if your not hurt/in love, in my opion. but ugh same i need to no now.
Amanda wrote: "Alex all the way. If it wasnt for Alex their would b no story no novel no excitement no new goal driven, fighting, amazing Lena. Alex made her what she is now in the book. Alex 100%. Julien's a go..."if she goes with Alec it seems so similar to EVERY love story ever done (twilight - dont hate me) i think she may bring in a 3rd party. Or she may shock us all and make Lena fall in love with a girl. I also think Alec and Juillian are brothers
Alex, alex alex and alex!!!!!!! SHE COULD/SHOULD NEVER LOVE ANOTHER MAN!!!!!! HE WILL ALWAYS BE HER FIRST LOVE AND HER VERY LAST!!!!
I really had a little crush on Julian,but every time he wasn't really there I thought about Alex-like Lena did!She has to end up with Alex and she has to find her mother and get Grace out of Zombieland.
(chanting)ALEX ALEX ALEX ALEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Valerie wrote: "I think that in the next book Julian is going to find out that Raven and Tack set Lena and Julian up and he's going think Lena was in on it. Julian will be upset with Lena, and meanwhile Alex and L..."I also have the same theory... And most probably, Lena will end up with Alex. It's either Julian will hate her or he will die from his tumor.
Chacy wrote: "Valerie wrote: "I think that in the next book Julian is going to find out that Raven and Tack set Lena and Julian up and he's going think Lena was in on it. Julian will be upset with Lena, and mean..."I'm really hoping you're right. I hope Lauren Oliver could hear us. :)
I really thought that Alex was dead, so I fell for Julian. I loved how this time around Lena was the experienced one. and as for Alex, I kind of felt like she was with him only because he was the first boy she ever met so of course she would like him, whereas she got to 'pick' Julian because by that point she knew more about the Deliria. So, I liked Julian more, however I was shocked and really happy to see Alex again. I'm looking forward to the next book, and I think now that both boys have been hardened it will make things very interesting! I would be happy with either one she chooses.
Trina wrote: "I really thought that Alex was dead, so I fell for Julian. I loved how this time around Lena was the experienced one. and as for Alex, I kind of felt like she was with him only because he was the f..."How has Julian been hardened?
Rajshree wrote: "I do love Julian but Alex was the first. I loved him ever since he came up on the observation deck, and i'll always pick him."yes!! i did too!!
Julian has a more complex relationship with Lena, where I felt alex and Lena's relationship was never as complex.
Alison wrote: "okay...someone had to start this...so i guess i will.I know the majority of people out there are probably going with Alex, and honestly, I thought I would be too, but I just finished reading Pand..."
Like! Like! Like! Same thought here. I think they can relate more. It's different for all the readers but I can feel more connection between Lena and Julian, same effect for me as the reader, I can connect to Julian the way I never felt in book 1 for Alex. Julian it is! <3
being kept up in jail will have changed him a lot and he won't be the same Alex And I think Julian will have a LOT of problems adjusting
But I will never ever leave Alex's side
I'm sooo going for Alex! Some people say they felt a better connection to Julian but I am definetly on Alex's side... I loved him from the very begining of the first book! I just felt something, real warmth in his character that I did not feel when I was reading about Julian. I always felt there was something stronger between Lena and Alex, something undeniable and unbreakable. Maybe it was his super outgoing personality, his easy smile -a beautiful something I can't quite describe that Julian just didn't really have. To me, Julian felt hollow. Almost like he only had an outter shell. There was no spark, no electricity to me. In all honesty, I like Hunter more than I did Julian.So, just to, you know, sum up... ALEX!!!!!
Julian! He's so sensitive and sweet and innocent. I wouldn't mind catching the deliria from him ;)
i really want lena to end up with alex, i mean i feel sorry for everything julian lived but alex all the way it just makes more sense for me, i think i just connected more with alex it was real love it seemed like it took them time to develop, lena and julian got connected because they lived an awful situation togeter and that made them feel connected anyways who knows what happened to alex at the cripts and how he now feels for lena i'm sure he still loves her and she loves him too, i just want the two of them to be togeter!!
I used to be rooting for Alex, but after Pandemonium, I'm on Team Julian. He seems better for Lena because he can be able to understand her about the cure and what-not because both of them grew up in that environment. Alex, on the other hand, did not. Plus, I can't really blame Lena for what happened, because she thought Alex was dead. So, she fell for Julian.:)
Julian! <3You might want to join this awesome group: Erudite Readers. If you'll join, can you do me a favor? Please mention that I invited you. Thanks guys! :)
Nic wrote: "You know what I think will happen first? She'll stay with Julian, maybe out of guilt or shock. Maybe then she'll fall in love with Alex again. And maybe something will happen to Julian, since he ha..."That's exactly what I think is gonna happen. I bet she'll have no choice but to be with Alex because Julian dies because of his tumors. Have you ever read the Uglies series? Because the same thing kinda happens with Tally and Zane
AlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlexALEXXXXXXX but I'm so sad he saw them making out!! He has to love her again! I don't want him to be different, he seemed really out of character in the last scene (but that may or may not be because she was with someone else) She has to pick him, if she doesn't I WILL DIE PLEASE LAUREN PLEASE!
i'll go for Alex. If Alex were dead there will be no Requiem. haha Alex alive makes the story interesting and exciting. Got to be a difficult situation for Lena..
Shine wrote: "i'll go for Alex. If Alex were dead there will be no Requiem. haha Alex alive makes the story interesting and exciting. Got to be a difficult situation for Lena.."I totally agree with you. Having Alex not around in Pandemonium makes the book uninteresting.
Well, it seems more interesting with both of them in the same book.:)
ALEX !! Of course Alex! You guys, just look at all the things that Alex sacrificed for Lena. She shouldn't just dump him. She's not even sure that Alex is dead and this thing with Julian happens. I was really irritated with that because if you really love the person, no matter what happens everything will stay the same! Reading Delirium, I think that what Lena felt for Alex and vice versa is REAL. I will be REALLY REALLY disappointed if Lena doesn't end up with Alex. This happens almost all the time. The first boy being forgotten.
lauren oliver should put alex and lena together because ending up with the second guy is too mainstream :D
Nicole wrote: "lauren oliver should put alex and lena together because ending up with the second guy is too mainstream :D"So hipster ;)
Nic wrote: "Kayla wrote: "Nic wrote: "You know what I think will happen first? She'll stay with Julian, maybe out of guilt or shock. Maybe then she'll fall in love with Alex again. And maybe something will hap..."I dunno, maybe Lauren Oliver just hasn't read Uglies before :/ And I hate love triangles also! >.>
im rooting for julian because somehow both lena and julian have more similarities compared to alex.at first they lived their life according to what others think is right
but then changed and become stronger when their eyes fully open and they become aware of what is the truth.
you see at first in delirium
alex is the one saving lena
but in pandemonium somehow
lena is the one saving julian
but then i think lena will pick alex because first and for most it is alex who gave him stregth to do such thing
i'm julian all the way, i mean did you not notice how alex reacted when he saw them? he was a total jerk. i know that lena loved alex but she thought that he was dead. AND IT'S NOT LIKE SHE PURPOSEFULLY FELL IN LOVE WITH JULIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i cant wait for REQUIEM to see who she ends up with. i'll be happy anyway because i like them both.
The first book I completely fell in love with Alex, but now after this one.. Julian? I don't even know! If it wasn't for Alex, Lena would never of met Julian so maybe both of them are good for her... If she really loved Alex then she wouldn't of fallen for Julian so quickly..
Julian! I know it's going to be Julian because Alex has changed. I know that Alex was first but oh well. remember when she said his eye had changed they where hard. I bette it's going to be like the hunger games. when Katniss picked petea because he was willing to forgive and he is what she need. It's going to be the same thing. so go JULIAN!!!
Maddie wrote: "i'm julian all the way, i mean did you not notice how alex reacted when he saw them? he was a total jerk. i know that lena loved alex but she thought that he was dead. AND IT'S NOT LIKE SHE PURPOSE..."i dont think he was acting like a jerk. think about it. how would you feel if for about...however long he was in the crypts, you were being tortured (if you recall she mentions a scar that marred his beautiful face! D,: ... okay, maybe the scar isnt that melodramatic) and you sacrificed yourself to give the person you love a better chance of life; then you are given the chance of freedom one day and the hopes of being reunited with them blossoms, only to shoot that horse in the face when you see him/her in the arms of another (MAKING OUT!)?? i dont know about you, but i wouldn't be thrilled either. i would be LIVID. livid and hurt. no matter what the circumstances of their situation alex really loved lena, so naturally seeing her with someone else is not going to sit well with him.
plus, i would say the same thing to her were i in his shoes ("don't believe her"). there she is promising julian they will stay together when not so long ago that was alex. i mean, replaceable much? poor alex :(
not to mention being angry that she didnt do SOMETHING to see if i was truly dead or not. she just assumed he was.
oooohhh this is such a hard question. Alex was Lena's first love ever and he taught her how to be an invalid and what it was like to be free. Julian, on the other hand, grew up just like Lena: surrounded by the cure. I think that technically, Lena should be with Julian, but for some reason i really think she belongs with Alex. Out of all the free invalids, Alex still fell in love with cure-believing Lena. I just love the fact that he had faith in her. I still love Julian too tho!
Deanne wrote: "oooohhh this is such a hard question. Alex was Lena's first love ever and he taught her how to be an invalid and what it was like to be free. Julian, on the other hand, grew up just like Lena: surr..."Haha, I feel like that too.:D
Every time I read a team Julian here, it honestly feels like a knife stabbed in my chest.I just really love Alex okay.
I AM SO DEPRESSED AND FRUSTRATED. IF LENA DOES NOT END UP WITH ALEX I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE. YOU MIGHT AS WELL LOCK ME IN THE CRAPS.
Nadia wrote: "I AM SO DEPRESSED AND FRUSTRATED. IF LENA DOES NOT END UP WITH ALEX I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE. YOU MIGHT AS WELL LOCK ME IN THE CRAPS."me too :'(
Nadia wrote: "Every time I read a team Julian here, it honestly feels like a knife stabbed in my chest.I just really love Alex okay."
I thought I was the only one!
I'm torn between this two lads,
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agree.