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message 1: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (last edited Jan 01, 2020 08:54AM) (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
The SFFBC 2020 Hindsight Awards: A RetroSPECtive of the New Millenium



We are pleased to introduce the selection process for the first ever SciFi and Fantasy Book Club Award!

There are 5 categories:

Best Fantasy Novel
Best Science Fiction Novel
Best Genre Bending Novel
Best Fantasy Author
Best Science Fiction Author

These awards will go to the book or author we think deserves the most praise so far this millennium. The awards will be announced December 31, 2020.

Rules:

1. All books nominated for "best novel" must have been read by the person nominating it.
2. All books for "best novel" must be standalone or the first in a series, and have been first published in its original language between 2000 and 2019.
3. All books nominated for "best novel" must actually be novels, not novellas, collections, graphic novels or novelettes. The book should not be children's or MG grade reading.
4. All authors nominated for best author must have at least one book, novella, graphic novel or collection of short stories first published between 2000 and 2019. The works that form the basis of their nomination must not be children's or MG grade reading.
5. Genres will be determined primarily by the nominator. However, if there is a question, it is likely a "genre bender." Genre bender includes any other books where either the genre isn't readily apparent, or the speculative element is secondary. In the event the genre cannot be agreed upon, moderators will have final say.
6. There will be 3 stages to this: The Call, The Nomination, and The Vote. The initial "Call" will not receive seconds. List every qualified book and author you believe to be worthy of contemplation.
7. The Call will close September 30, 2020
8. Nominations for the short list, (up to three nominations per category per person) will begin November 1, 2020 and end November 20, 2020. The 4 nominees with the most seconds will be selected for the final vote. An author may only be on the short list one time per individual nominee slate. (Ex. You list Iam Author for Best Fantasy. You cannot then use Iam Author in any other category on your slate.)
9. The final vote will begin December 1, 2020 and end December 20, 2020. An author may only appear once on the poll, determined by number of votes in category.
10. The results will be revealed December 31.


message 2: by Meredith (new)

Meredith | 1783 comments How fun!


message 3: by Eva (new)

Eva | 968 comments Such a cool idea!


message 4: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
I sure hope so! And I already had fun having people try to guess this after the CLUE poll haha!


message 5: by Ryan, Your favourite moderators favourite moderator (new)

Ryan | 1745 comments Mod
Excellent! I'm as interested in seeing how the members define 'the best' as I am in what and who wins.


message 6: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
I agree, Ryan! Really curious how this will pan out!


message 7: by jamako (last edited Jan 01, 2020 01:10PM) (new)

jamako (jann1k) | 64 comments This is a cool event! :)
However, why are later books in a series excluded? For example, I'd definitely nominate Cold Days but wouldn't nominate Storm Front as the best genre-bending novel. Wouldn't it make more sense to split categories between Best Series and Best Standalone or just accept all books no matter where in a series they are?


message 8: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (last edited Jan 01, 2020 01:13PM) (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Jannik wrote: "This is a cool event! :)
However, why are later books in a series excluded? Wouldn't it then make more sense to split categories between Best Series and Best Standalone in a genre?"


We went back and forth about this soooo many times. The end result was that we were afraid that allowing any book in a series would make it hard for people to confirm, as many people space out series, or haven't gotten to book 19 yet or only read standalones or various other things that would spread votes out too much, and that by allowing "best author" for the two big genres, it should help to capture folks who are still important and relevant, but whose stories started earlier than 2000. We also felt that "best series" and "best standalone" felt more arbitrary than focusing on what this group is all about: genre fiction in all its forms.


message 9: by jamako (new)

jamako (jann1k) | 64 comments Hm, okay. Makes sense. Thanks for the quick answer! It's just unfortunate in my case I guess. I love both the Dresden Files and The Expanse but find the first books in both series are nowhere near the best in the series or as good as the first entries in other series or some standalones.


message 10: by Kaa (new)

Kaa | 1546 comments For the initial list, can I put the same author under both fantasy and sf?


message 11: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Jannik wrote: "Hm, okay. Makes sense. Thanks for the quick answer! It's just unfortunate in my case I guess. I love both the Dresden Files and The Expanse but find the first books in both series are nowhere near ..."

Sounds like Butcher and the collective Corey would be great considerations for you as Best Author, then! Authors who've left an indelible mark on the genre, but whose individual works (which are eligible) might not be what you'd consider the single best book in the genre.


message 12: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Kaa wrote: "For the initial list, can I put the same author under both fantasy and sf?"

Yes!


message 13: by Banshee (new)

Banshee (bansheethecat) | 206 comments This is such a cool idea and I'm looking forward to see how it plays out (and to participating, of course) :)


message 14: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) Ok, I finally caught it. "SPEC" for speculative fiction. Good 'un.


message 15: by V.M. (new)

V.M. Sang (aspholessaria) | 77 comments Great idea.


message 16: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Cheryl wrote: "Ok, I finally caught it. "SPEC" for speculative fiction. Good 'un."

Heehee!

I'm glad you all are on board! Hoping we find some gems ^^


message 17: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments and now we have a long list of books which fit the "hindsight" prompt of the TBR Cleanup challenge. Neat!


message 18: by Ryan, Your favourite moderators favourite moderator (new)

Ryan | 1745 comments Mod
Just read a list of the best sci-fi books of the noughties by Annalee Newitz and... yikes. She includes some fantasy and horror, which doesn't help.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/20-best-scien...

Was worried that I was suffering from recentivism as most of the great sci-fi books of this millennium that come to my mind were published in the latter decade.

Anyway, my quest to do this task justice by nominating works and authors that can hold up to scrutiny has begun.


message 19: by Ryan, Your favourite moderators favourite moderator (new)

Ryan | 1745 comments Mod
Just seen a more appropriate thread to have posted that in *grumble*


message 20: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Ryan wrote: "Just seen a more appropriate thread to have posted that in *grumble*"

Haha no worries! I figured most folks would post overall questions/comments here and save The Call for things they actually want to have folks consider for the nomination, so all good!


message 21: by Melani (new)

Melani | 146 comments Can I get a judgement. I'm going through my top rated books, the ones that fit into the time frame, and Frances Hardinge pops up over and over. Her books are complicated and intricate but tend to be categorized on the border of YA and Middlegrade. I would totally nominate her and a few of her books, but I don't know if she would be disqualified because Middlegrade.

Weigh in please.

A Face Like Glass
Cuckoo Song


message 22: by DivaDiane (new)

DivaDiane SM | 3680 comments Arrgh! Ryan! Why are there so many books on that list that I have not even heard of let alone read?!? Very interesting list!


message 23: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Melani wrote: "Can I get a judgement. I'm going through my top rated books, the ones that fit into the time frame, and Frances Hardinge pops up over and over. Her books are complicated and intrica..."

I would say no to Face Like Glass as Pan Macmillan published it with their Children's imprint, but Cuckoo Song is okay? But also if she has books that are definitely not MG/Children's as well, she would qualify as best author, if you thought that her oeuvre overall is worth investigating :)


colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2719 comments Melani wrote: "Can I get a judgement. I'm going through my top rated books, the ones that fit into the time frame, and Frances Hardinge pops up over and over. Her books are complicated and intrica..."


Ok, so just based on cover and publishing houses and whatnot...

I would say "Face Like Glass" looks more MG, but "Cuckoo Song" definitely YA.


message 25: by Melani (last edited Jan 03, 2020 07:34AM) (new)

Melani | 146 comments Allison wrote: "Melani wrote: "Can I get a judgement. I'm going through my top rated books, the ones that fit into the time frame, and Frances Hardinge pops up over and over. Her books are complica..."

Excellent thank you. And yes she is. Her books are fantastic, every one has been amazing, but those two have been my favorites.


message 26: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
A reminder! Starting November 1, we'll have nominations for our own awards for: Best Fantasy Book, Best Science Fiction Book, Best Genrebender Book, Best Fantasy Author and Best Science Fiction Author of the 21st Century.

You can nominate up to 3 times for each category, but remember that you can only use an author one time in your slate, and that you must have read the work you're nominating. For example, if Iam Author is your favorite SF author and wrote your favorite SF book, you'd need to pick if you think their oeuvre or that book will be on your slate.

To be eligible the novel must have been first published in the 21st century, or the author must have published at least one genre work in the 21st century

You can change your nominations, just please call out which you're changing and to what so I can try to keep up.

Start thinking about your options, but please don't start sharing them here yet, that will begin Nov 1!


message 27: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
*NOW ACCEPTING NOMINATIONS FOR BEST GENRE BOOKS AND AUTHORS OF THE 21ST CENTURY!*

Please read the prior post first, or the rules in the initial post, to make sure you're taking full advantage!


message 28: by Norman (last edited Nov 02, 2020 09:41AM) (new)

Norman Cook (normcook) | 30 comments Best Fantasy Novel
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke
The Ten Thousand Doors of January by Alix E. Harrow
The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin

Best Science Fiction Novel
The Calculating Stars by Mary Robinette Kowal
The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin
The Algebraist by Iain M. Banks

Best Genre Bending Novel
The Yiddish Policemen's Union by Michael Chabon
Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir
Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer

Best Fantasy Author
Neil Gaiman
Charles Stross
George R.R. Martin

Best Science Fiction Author
Connie Willis
China Miéville
Kim Stanley Robinson


message 29: by Jain (new)

Jain | 92 comments Best Fantasy Novel
The Raven and the Reindeer by T. Kingfisher
Spinning Silver by Naomi Novik
The Watchmaker of Filigree Street by Natasha Pulley

Best Science Fiction Novel
The Light Brigade by Kameron Hurley
Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie
Warchild by Karin Lowachee

Best Genre Bending Novel
Amberlough by Lara Elena Donnelly
The Girls at the Kingfisher Club by Genevieve Valentine
Farthing by Jo Walton

Best Fantasy Author
Frances Hardinge
N.K. Jemisin
Megan Whalen Turner

Best Science Fiction Author
Ted Chiang
Aliette de Bodard
Yoon Ha Lee


message 31: by Christopher (new)

Christopher | 981 comments Best Fantasy Novel
The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss
The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
His Majesty's Dragon by Naomi Novik


Best Science Fiction Novel
Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky
Ninefox Gambit by Yoon Ha Lee
Semiosis by Sue Burke

Best Genre Bending Novel
The City & the City by China Miéville
Among Others by Jo Walton
The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern

Best Fantasy Author
George R.R. Martin
Jo Walton
Lois McMaster Bujold

Best Science Fiction Author
Ted Chiang
Martha Wells
Kim Stanley Robinson


message 33: by Ryan, Your favourite moderators favourite moderator (last edited Nov 01, 2020 02:38PM) (new)


message 35: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Nicol, Vanished Birds was published in 2020, feel free to replace!


message 38: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
@Silvana, it's gotta be standalone or first in a series, and the author can only show up 1 time in your slate ;-)


message 39: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2797 comments Allison wrote: "@Silvana, it's gotta be standalone or first in a series, and the author can only show up 1 time in your slate ;-)"

oh! well, I suck at reading rules, I guess ;p Fixing in progress....


message 40: by Jemppu (last edited Nov 02, 2020 09:17AM) (new)

Jemppu | 1735 comments So, if I nominate a book by the author, I can't nominate the author themselves? Hmm, makes this tricky...

I'll leave my preliminary here:

Best Fantasy Novel:
Black Leopard, Red Wolf by Marlon James
The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin
The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson

Best Scifi Novel:
The Martian by Andy Weir
Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell
Too Like the Lightning by Ada Palmer

Best Genrebender:
Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami
My Real Children by Jo Walton
The Martian Child: A Novel About a Single Father Adopting a Son by David Gerrold

Best Fantasy Author:
Ursula K. Le Guin
Guy Gavriel Kay
Robin Hobb

Best Scifi Author:
Adrian Tchaikovsky
Kim Stanley Robinson
Ted Chiang




Dang, I have no room for Matt Haig. ETA: thanks for the clarification, Allison! Still, the problem remains ^^' Haig would definitely fit a 'Best Fantasy novel' slot even, if only The Midnight Library had come out a year earlier *ha*


message 41: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
As long as they've published adult lit in the past 20 years, they can count! Just not for best novel, but for best author it's fine :)


message 43: by Gabi (last edited Nov 02, 2020 09:48AM) (new)


message 44: by Anna (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10434 comments A couple I can spot that don't belong:


CBR, Binti is a novella, so not eligible for the novel category

Gabi, Atlas Alone is the only one in the series that can't be read standalone, so not eligible

I haven't read all lists thoroughly, but those are the ones that immediately stood out to me.


message 45: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Thanks, Anna! I wasn't sure about Atlas Alone.


message 46: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Anna wrote: "
Gabi, Atlas Alone is the only one in the series that can't be read standalone, so not eligi..."


Oh sh***ugar. Okay, I'll delete it.


message 47: by CBRetriever (new)

CBRetriever | 6130 comments Anna wrote: "A couple I can spot that don't belong:


CBR, Binti is a novella, so not eligible for the novel category

Gabi, Atlas Alone is the only one in the series that can't be read standalone, so not eligi..."


will change it


message 48: by Anna (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10434 comments CBR, RemPop is also too old! :( It would be on my list, but alas :'(


message 49: by Anna (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10434 comments Allison, are we allowed to discuss and strategize to make sure a book/author gets a chance? For example right now Ninefox Gambit is both in genrebender (that's where I'll be putting it) and scifi, as well as author. Jo Walton is also all over the categories (I'll be putting her in genrebender, too). It's super hard, because of course I kinda want to see what everyone else is doing (this is why I wanted secret noms), but I also can't fit all the things on the list if I do that. This is even harder than I imagined! :[


message 50: by Jemppu (last edited Nov 02, 2020 09:15AM) (new)

Jemppu | 1735 comments Anna wrote: "CBR, RemPop is also too old! :( It would be on my list, but alas :'("

I'm bummed Tigana misses this by year, as well.

(ETA: whelp... had to edit in Guy Gavriel Kay anyway).


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