SciFi and Fantasy Book Club discussion

14. Seven or Twenty
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__7th book in the series which means I'll have to read the whole series for the first time in Kindle format =
18. LOLed IRL
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__I read a bunch of the blogs that turned into this book and I LOL'd and I've had this on my TBR pile for quite a while

8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme
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__February 2018 Sci Fi poll
I enjoyed this one quite a bit

edit to change mont to month


Here is the review
So I started reading this book thinking I knew why the Chicken crossed the world. I figured it was the same reason the Pig did, food. Turns out for the most part that is wrong. Religious reasons, reasons of state and just because they looked so cool and could fight. The book goes over a great many things involving Chickens and their change in human society. All in all it is a very interesting and well presented book. I am glad I read it even though I might have skipped over it because I thought I already knew the answer.

12. Published in a memorable year
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__published in 2011 and we know why that year's important
now I'm off to read the rest of the Raksura series that are in my TBR pile courtesy of a Humble Bundle (1-3) and a purchase (7). I'll stop at 3 and wait until the others go down in price.
This series is interesting, but for some reason it's not really enthralling me. Maybe it needs more character depth? The main character was well drawn, but the others weren't so much. I kept wanting to get immersed in it and it wasn't happening.

I'm up to seven, and given that I've (once again) gone off on a couple of tangents already this year, I'm pretty pleased with that.
Completed so far are;
3. Small publisher - A Time to Die: The Untold Story of the Kursk Tragedy.
4. Relationship between humans/animals - Dogs of War.
5. Recommended by a public figure - The World As It Is: Inside the Obama White House.
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme - Exilium - From the 2019 TBR Challenge number 20, a graphic or illustrated novel.
9. #ownvoices - Dark Emu - Indigenous Australian.
17. The next True Blood (ie, the next series that I will not bother to continue on with unless it improves with this book) - Devil Said Bang.
19. Seen in an ad or on social media - We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy.
Still to go;
1. Inspired by a meme - The Prosperity Gospel: How Scott Morrison won and Bill Shorten lost.
2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) - SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome.
6. Steal from someone else - All the Birds in the Sky.
7. Makes you wonder - Ghost Fleet: A Novel of the Next World War.
10. Won a smaller or regional award - The Admirals: Nimitz, Halsey, Leahy, and King—the Five-Star Admirals Who Won the War at Sea.
11. What a title?! - What It is Like to Go to War.
12. Published in a memorable year - 2312.
13. #relatable - Man's Search for Meaning.
14. Seven or Twenty - A Canticle for Leibowitz - The 7th Hugo Award winner.
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages - Persepolis Rising.
16. Pushing the boundaries - Genghis Khan.
18. LOLed IRL - Witches Abroad.
20. Hindsight is 20/20 - Time and Time Again.

◆ Inspired by a meme: The Raven and the Reindeer
◇ Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win): Gideon the Ninth
◆ Small publisher: Zero Hour
◆ Relationship between humans/animals: Coraline
◆ Recommended by a public figure: Circe
◇ Steal from someone else: Stealing Life
◆ Makes you wonder: Starlight
◇ Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme: Witchmark
◆ #ownvoices: Love Beyond Body, Space, and Time
◇ Won a smaller or regional award: Otherbound
◇ What a title?!: Ruby Red Booty Shorts & A Louisville Slugger
◆ Published in a memorable year: The Errant Prince
◇ #relatable: 5 to 1
◇ Seven or Twenty: The First Twenty
◇ Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages: Prosperity
◇ Pushing the boundaries: The Complete Stories and Poems by Edgar Allan Poe
◇ The next [insert popular series here]: The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet
◆ LOLed IRL:
✘ The Ghost on My Couch
✘ The Adventures of Charls, the Veretian Cloth Merchant
✔ Spirit
◆ Seen in an ad or on social media: Time for Destiny
◆ Hindsight is 20/20: Tin Man

I'm up to seven, and given that I've (once again) gone off on a couple of tangents already t..."
So how was the Kursk book? I still find it hard to imagine much that was untold about that story.

Well, I'm very satisfied with this challenge so far. My average rating right now is 4.0 stars.
My faves were: The Raven and the Reindeer, which you guys already read, Coraline, the first book by Neil Gaiman that I like, and I didn't like it, I loved it (maybe I should stick to children's books with him?), Starlight and Tin Man, because Lisa Henry is pretty much a sure bet for me, and Spirit, I both laughed and cried irl, it was so great. Also, some of the stories in Love Beyond Body, Space, and Time (specially 'The Boys Who Became the Hummingbirds', 'Né łe!' and 'Valediction at the Star View Motel') were awesome, even if the book as a whole didn't make it to the top, as it tends to happen with anthologies.

A great read though heartbreaking. I was worried that Moore would extrapolate and dramatise events of which we know very little about but he stuck to the facts and, really, there was enough drama happening on the surface, with events surrounding rescue attempts, without speculating about what was happening in the submarine. The combination of paranoia and a bloody-minded focus on political expediency (which I think exists even more today than it did 20 years ago) had a tragic result.

Well, I'm very satisfied with this challenge so far. My average rating right now is 4.0 stars.
I am a big Neil Gaiman fan Pandora and if you think you should stick with his children's books then give Odd and the Frost Giants a try. I have to point out though that I've not read Coraline so I can't make a direct comparison, but I loved Odd and the Frost Giants.

As I've mentioned before, many of my selections for the challenge this year fall outside of the definition of SFF, but I really enjoyed Dogs of War. It poses some interesting questions about the possible path of the militarisation of genetic research.
I also really enjoyed A Time to Die: The Untold Story of the Kursk Tragedy and We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy.
The best book I've started reading this year though is one that I've not included in the challenge; Battle Cry of Freedom. It's history, not SFF, and I'm only halfway through it, but it's tracking to be 5 stars.

A great read though heartbreaking. I was worried that Moore would extrapolate and dramatise events of which we know very little about but he stuck to the fac..."
Thanks, I might have to give it a look. Glad he was sticking to the facts.

The Bear and the Nightingale

I am not sure what it was but I had a really hard time getting into this book. The writing was good, the character development was really good. I think that the main thing that slowed me down was being out of my depth with the myth and legend cycles that the book is based on. I am glad the book is doing so well in the eyes of others since it deserves to be enjoyed. I just might have to start looking at Russian legends for a while and come back to it later.

The Bear and the Nightingale
I am not sure what it was but I had a really hard time getting into this book.
oh, no, I have that one on my list too.

The Bear and the Nightingale

I am not ..."
This does look very interesting. I might have to give it a shot.

The Bear and the Nightingale
I am not sure what it was but I had a really har..."
Don't back away on my account. It might be that you like it better than I did. After even with not being able to fully get into it, I still gave it three stars.

I recently finished:
1. Inspired by a meme: The Consuming Fire, by John Scalzi
20. Hindsight is 20/20: Geisha, a Life, by Mineko Ieasaki, which is an autobiography.

1. Inspired by a meme - The Lady and Her Monsters: A Tale of Dissections, Real-Life Dr. Frankensteins, and the Creation of Mary Shelley's Masterpiece; Roseanne Montillo (kid burning house meme)

2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) - Amberlough; Lara Elena Donnelly (Nebula Award Nominee for Best Novel (2017), Lambda Literary Award Nominee for LGBTQ SF/F/Horror (2018))
3. Small publisher - Witches, Sluts, Feminists: Conjuring the Sex Positive; Kristen J Sollée (Three L Media)
4. Relationship between humans/animals - A Natural History of Dragons; Marie Brennan
5. Recommended by a public figure - Black Hole Blues and Other Songs from Outer Space; Janna Levin (rec'd by Maria Popova)
6. Steal from someone else -
7. Makes you wonder - Physics for Rock Stars: Making the Laws of the Universe Work for You; Christine McKinley (...Can I make the universe work for me?!)
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme -
9. #ownvoices - The Secret Lives of Baba Segi's Wives; Lola Shoneyin (Nigerian author)
10. Won a smaller or regional award - The Windup Girl; Paolo Bacigalupi (it won a lot, one of those has to be regional...)
11. What a title?! -
12. Published in a memorable year -
13. #relatable -
14. Seven or Twenty - A Sicilian Romance; Ann Radcliffe (let's say it's been on my list for 7 or 20 years)
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages - Embassytown; China Miéville ("includes an English-derived dialect called Anglo-Ubiq")
16. Pushing the boundaries - A Big Ship at the Edge of the Universe; Alex White (it's in the title)
17. The next [Library] -
18. LOLed IRL - Gulp: Adventures on the Alimentary Canal; Mary Roach (Roach's writing always brings a smile)
19. Seen in an ad or on social media - Who Fears Death; Nnedi Okorafor (been on my list and just learned it's been optioned by HBO!)
20. Hindsight is 20/20 - The Obelisk Gate; N. K. Jemisin (i should have finished this series ages ago.)

10. Won a smaller or regional award
__The Little Country by Charles De Lint
__The Aurora Awards for Canadian Science Fiction & Fantasy
I loved this book with two separate stories in it. I like de Lint anyway, but this one was a joy to read and probably one of his better books

Wow. There are some really fascinating choices there. This is the one that I'd be stealing though if I hadn't already filled that category. I loved her work as a director/screenwriter/producer.

complete: 12/20
in progress: 2/20
1. Inspired by a meme: Harnessed: How Language and Music Mimicked Nature and Transformed Ape to Man by Mark Changizi
3. Small publisher: Experimental Film by Gemma Files
4. Relationship between humans/animals: The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History by Elizabeth Kolbert
9. #ownvoices: Trail of Lightning by Rebecca Roanhorse in progress
13. #relatable: Dune by Frank Herbert
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages: Beloved by Toni Morrison
19. Seen in an ad or on social media: Leviathan Wakes by James S.A. Corey in progress
20. Hindsight is 20/20: Doomsday Book by Connie Willis
Reasons:(view spoiler)

1. Inspired by a meme -
2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) - Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand (in process)
3. Small publisher - The Way of Thorn and Thunder (in painfully slow process, due to format)
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10. Won a smaller or regional award - Autonomous
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1. Inspired by a meme: David Crockett: The Lion of the West (Written to refute the Disneyfication of "♪ ♫♪ Da-a-avy, Davy Crockett...♪ ♫"
2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win): The Blade Itself was Locus Award Nominee for Best First Novel (2007), Compton Crook Award Nominee (2008), Tähtifantasia Award Nominee (2010)
3. Small publisher: William Shakespeare's Star Wars: Verily, A New Hope by Quark Press
4. Relationship between humans/animals: Flowers for Algernon
5. Recommended by a public figure: Andrew Luck, Leviathan Wakes
6. Steal from someone else: Black Science, Vol. 9 (view spoiler)
7. Makes you wonder -- haha, any Seven Wonders RATB (The Native Star)
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme: The Goblin Emperor (November 2015 Debut)
9. #ownvoices Brown Girl in the Ring
10. Won a smaller or regional award -- The Guns of the South
11. What a title?! John Dies at the End
12. Published in a memorable year -- Changewar, 1983
13. #relatable -- Old Man's War
14. Seven or Twenty -- the seventh Tarzan book, Tarzan the Untamed
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages Leviathan Wakes' sequel
16. Pushing the boundaries The Calculating Stars
17. The next [insert popular series here]...Thomas Covenant: The Summer Tree
18. LOLed IRL Midnight Riot -- the funny parts were a riot.
19. Seen in an ad or on social media -- The Collapsing Empire
20. Hindsight is 20/20 -- Bellamy, Looking Backward
06 May Update to #6 (Steal From Someone Else): The more I think on it, the more I believe the Volume 9 conclusion of the Black Science graphic novel saga makes a really good case to fulfill this item. Been on my TBR whilest we were waiting for it to be published, and those last three chapters contain one concealed theft after another. Sadly, you will have to read it to understand.

Some great choices there.


This book was the one that was recommended
So I am really glad that I read this book. I read Snowcrash and wasn't in on the joke so I thought it was a serious work and was underwhelmed. Now that I have read another book by Stephenson my impression has been changed completely.
This book is amazing. The characters are well developed and stay consistent within the framework of the story. It doesn't try to answer all the questions on what caused the catastrophic event that sets everything else into motion and it doesn't overwhelm with the science of things.
A little long in places and some events seem contrived, but that doesn't really harm the readability of the book in the least. A great read.

Thanks!

1. Inspired by a meme
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__http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3v8bu8
I enjoyed this one more than I thought I would

1. Inspired by a meme
__Wild Cards I by George R.R. Martin et al
__http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3v8bu8
I enjoyed this one more than I thought I would"
LOL. That's gold :-)


I'd be more concerned by "Now in development for TV!"
The Game of Thrones series is on my "not going to start it until it's finished" TBR list so I'm just being concerned for... "a friend." Yeah - that's it.


here is my review:
So I may be an exception, but in general, I am not a Jim Butcher fan. The Dresden series really doesn't get me excited. This book changed my view quite a bit. A number of different characters with complete and unique personalities. Admittedly some of them are stereotype steampunk characters but the fact that they are unique in their own right and stay true to themselves throughout the book is impressive. You can't forget the Cat.
The Worldbuilding shows a very nice complexity that is more hinted at than tossed up in your face and spelled out in pages of background. It is a nice touch since the characters in the world wouldn't need to have their world spelled out to them.
If this book has any downside it is that the second one is five years in the making and still hasn't been released.

1. Inspired by a meme A Little Life (book cover is like the crying meme)
✔ 2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous (National Book Award, Kirkus Prize)
3. Small publisher The Way of Thorn and Thunder
✔ 4. Relationship between humans/animals His Majesty's Dragon
✔ 5. Recommended by a public figure The Underground Railroad (Oprah’s Book Club)
✔ 6. Steal from someone else The Black God's Drums (MC is a street ruffian/thief)
✔ 7. Makes you wonder Among Others
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme Shards of Honour (Space Pirates)
✔ 9. #ownvoices Americanah (Nigerian-American author)
10. Won a smaller or regional award The Great Believers (LA Times Book Prize)
11. What a title?! Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead
✔ 12. Published in a memorable year Luck in the Shadows (1996)
13. #relatable Catch and Kill: Lies, Spies, and a Conspiracy to Protect Predators (#MeToo)
14. Seven or Twenty Seven Surrenders
✔ 15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages Brown Girl in the Ring
16. Pushing the boundaries Cloud Atlas
17. The next [insert popular series here] Black Leopard, Red Wolf [GoT]
18. LOLed IRL This Is the Way the World Ends
✔ 19. Seen in an ad or on social media The Silent Patient
20. Hindsight is 20/20 Frederick Douglass: Prophet of Freedom

I'm still trying to figure out how to best integrate challenges like this into my reading life. But I'm determined to do better than last year at least.

1. Inspired by a meme
Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman
Been meaning to re-read this since the series. Inspired basically every meme in the summer of 2019.
A Closed and Common Orbit by Becky Chambers
Nominated/didn't win Hugo and Arthur C. Clarke
Uncanny Magazine Issue 15: March/April 2017
I just became a Patreon subscriber and am making my way through the backlog. Love this magazine!
Into the Drowning Deep by Mira Grant
Mermaids: half-person, half-fish.
Pachinko by Min Jin Lee
Rec'd by Obama
Widow's Point by Richard Chizmar
Bought this for my partner, and he loved it, so now I'm going to have to steal it from his bookshelf. :)
The Queen of Attolia by Megan Whalen Turner
I read The Thief so long ago, and immediately picked this up, and now I'm wondering why I let so much time lapse without reading it. And if I'll even know what's going on anymore. And why book series don't have a "Last time, on ______" section like TV shows.
The Girl in the Tower by Katherine Arden
July 2018 theme: sequel fantasy
The Things She's Seen by Ambelin Kwaymullina
The author of this aboriginal ghost story is from the Palyku people of the Pilbara region of Western Australia
In the Woods by Tana French
Barry Award Winner
Her Silhouette, Drawn in Water by Vylar Kaftan
Because, really, what a title!
12. Published in a memorable year
About the Night by Anat Talshir
Published in 2016. That year where everyone was like, surely things can't get worse, and then it did.
At Home: A Short History of Private Life by Bill Bryson
Depressingly relatable because I'm not allowed to leave
The Year of Eating Dangerously: A Global Adventure in Search of Culinary Extremes by Tom Parker Bowles
Published in 2007.
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages
Karen Memory by Elizabeth Bear
Written in first-person, seems to have a strong regional dialect.
16. Pushing the boundaries
A History of the Wife by Marilyn Yalom
Pushing the boundaries of what we typically think of as "history"
Exit Strategy by Martha Wells
The next in the popular Murderbot series, and so I can read the full-length novel when it comes out!
Hollow Kingdom by Kira Jane Buxton
I lol'd IRL just reading the description. Looking forward to the group read next month!
Bird Box by Josh Malerman
That movie everyone was talking about that I have refused to see because I wanted to read the book first.
Lavinia by Ursula K. Le Guin
A re-telling of a history from another POV.
Progress: 16/20

◆ Inspired by a meme: The Raven and the Reindeer
◆ Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win): Gideon the Ninth
◆ Small publisher: Zero Hour
◆ Relationship between humans/animals: Coraline
◆ Recommended by a public figure: Circe
◆ Steal from someone else: Stealing Life
◆ Makes you wonder: Starlight
◆ Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme: Witchmark
◆ #ownvoices: Love Beyond Body, Space, and Time
◇ Won a smaller or regional award: Otherbound
◆ What a title?!: Ruby Red Booty Shorts & A Louisville Slugger
◆ Published in a memorable year: The Errant Prince
◆ #relatable: 5 to 1
◇ Seven or Twenty: The First Twenty
◆ Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages: Prosperity
◇ Pushing the boundaries: The Complete Stories and Poems by Edgar Allan Poe
◇ The next [insert popular series here]: The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet
◆ LOLed IRL:
✘ The Ghost on My Couch
✘ The Adventures of Charls, the Veretian Cloth Merchant
✔ Spirit
◆ Seen in an ad or on social media: Time for Destiny
◆ Hindsight is 20/20: Tin Man
I'm gonna be honest, I don't think my tbr list is getting any smaller, but without these challenges there are books that would stay there for the rest of my life. I don't know if I ever would have gotten around to read Prosperity or 5 to 1, because the heavy use of slang in the former, the chapters in verse in the latter, and the total lack of romance in both were putting me off. Anyways, they're two of my favorite books of the year for sure, possibly ever, and those things in the end weren't obstacles for my enjoyment at all (on the contrary!).
Prosperity is a crazy imaginative steampunk fantasy with floating cities, bewitched flying ships, sky krakens, clockwork reanimated corpses and queerness all around. It has adventure! And fun! And a pinch of tragedy! It has sexy times! It has magic! It has pirates and outcasts and whores and crime lords! The sweetest characters you'll ever encounter! Plus a sociopath or two as well! Just. It's awesome, guys. For real.
5 to 1 is a matriarchal dystopia set in a future India where, to make marriage "fair", every girl is forced to choose among five male contestants that are in turn forced to compete for her. It does make use of a certain misconcepcion of feminism, but the message against extremism, totalitarism, corruption, hatred, sexism, inequality and lack of freedom (with a focus on young women in indian culture) is clear. It seemed to me like a very original take on the genre. And all of it beautifully written like you can't even imagine.
Yeah...I'm not convinced it's possible to lower the TBR, really, but there are some books that linger, and it feels good to finally knock them off the shelf :)

Aaaaand I've added two more books to my TBR list.
Very interesting list Pandora, and Prosperity and 5 to 1 sound very intriguing.


Yess mission accomplished!
Petar wrote: "Pandora wrote: "The confinment begins to relax in my country for the general population today. I'm only allowed a short walk, but I'll be setting foot on the street for the first time in 52 days. I..."
Yup, the chapters told from Sudasa's POV are all in verse, but they're very easy to read and it gives her voice more character somehow.

2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win)
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__Nominated for Locus Award and World Fantasy Award and didn't win any major award
and off to the other 9 books in the series. I might have to intersperse with some other book as these are pretty heavy and long. I am eternally grateful to Amazon's Xray on these books as it helps to look up character names and who they are.

11. What a title?!: A Monstrous Regiment of Women, I didn’t think it was as good as the first in the series.
18. LOLed IRL: Mort, light and fun.


As my #their own voices.
This is my 14th book finished in the challenge and so far the only one I gave five stars too. Here is the review:
I am not now, have never been previously, and most likely never will be a big fan of the first-person accounts of any war. At higher ranks, there is always the question of what it is that the individual is trying to gloss over to maintain or improve their reputations. At the lower ranks, there is, sometimes, a great deal of immediacy but at the loss of understanding of what is going on in the overall sense. I have never been one to desire to live my life vicariously through another's actual experiences. That is what Fantasy is for.
So why fives stars? Simple. First off Robert Leckie is unusually honest, not just about others but about himself. Second, he writes at levels far beyond that of other first-person accounts. In fact, sometimes he writes so well that it makes it hard to believe that the author is the one that lived through these experiences. The details though make it clear that he was there, but he has the eye of a poet more than most other soldiers who write about their experiences and that makes this book all the more worth reading.
The epilogue is especially moving. He names friends and others that he knew and then asks...'of all these and the others, dear Father, forgive us for that awful cloud.'
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1. Inspired by a meme - A Stitch in Time (Inspired by this Garashir meme)
6. Steal from someone else - Monstress, Vol. 1: Awakening
9. #ownvoices - Not So Stories (Writers of color writing back against Rudyard Kipling's Just So Stories)
13. #relatable - Bitch Planet, Vol. 2: President Bitch
I read Monstress #1 instead of The Gate to Women's Country when I realized the former, which I "stole" (i.e. borrowed") from a colleague a while ago, also fit the prompt.