SciFi and Fantasy Book Club discussion
SciFi and Fantasy Book Challenge
>
2020 TBR Cleanup Challenge


I will take being 58 to get out of a year with a worldwide pandemic, a record hurricane season, and massive fires. I think it more than time to get out of this year. One of the few bright spots was I finished my first yearly challenge, so I am looking forward to the next one.
Reading now:
9. #ownvoices - The Way of Thorn and Thunder (own voices Native person)
6. Steal from someone else - Warbreaker all sorts of thievery goin' on.
2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) - Everfair (Nebula, Campbell/Astounding, Tiptree/Otherwise)
Read:
4. Relationship between humans/animals - Beasts of Extraordinary Circumstance (wolves and Merlin the pig?)
5. Recommended by a public figure - Blackfish City
13. #relatable - Circe - misunderstood women monsters!
16. Pushing the boundaries - The Left Hand of Darkness - I've heard this really is something special and I hope my mind expands for it.
17. The next [insert popular series here] - The Rage of Dragons (this is supposed to be a new Game of Thrones, I think. I hope not though.)
20. Hindsight is 20/20 - How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk - I mean, a bit late now but I'm getting to it.
Still to go
1. Inspired by a meme - Demonspawn (based on the necropost meme)
3. Small publisher - Crossover (Pyr)
7. Makes you wonder - Fever Dream (sounds like it will be one or the other!)
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme - Amatka - this poor book keeps getting nominated. I see you, book.
10. Won a smaller or regional award - The Bone People (okay, sure, it won a Booker, but it also won a New Zealand Book Award)
11. What a title?! - The Blind Owl (I am compelled. I sympathize, owl.)
12. Published in a memorable year - The Rook (year I joined GR and got married, aw)
14. Seven or Twenty - Scarlet, Book 1 - 7th book on my TBR
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages - Barsk: The Elephants' Graveyard - he's a linguist and the founder of the Klingon language society, so it should fit the bill.
18. LOLed IRL - The Mane Event - I was recommended this during a hilarious conversation.
19. Seen in an ad or on social media - The Wood Wife. The cover got me.
9. #ownvoices - The Way of Thorn and Thunder (own voices Native person)
6. Steal from someone else - Warbreaker all sorts of thievery goin' on.
2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) - Everfair (Nebula, Campbell/Astounding, Tiptree/Otherwise)
Read:
4. Relationship between humans/animals - Beasts of Extraordinary Circumstance (wolves and Merlin the pig?)
5. Recommended by a public figure - Blackfish City
13. #relatable - Circe - misunderstood women monsters!
16. Pushing the boundaries - The Left Hand of Darkness - I've heard this really is something special and I hope my mind expands for it.
17. The next [insert popular series here] - The Rage of Dragons (this is supposed to be a new Game of Thrones, I think. I hope not though.)
20. Hindsight is 20/20 - How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk - I mean, a bit late now but I'm getting to it.
Still to go
1. Inspired by a meme - Demonspawn (based on the necropost meme)
3. Small publisher - Crossover (Pyr)
7. Makes you wonder - Fever Dream (sounds like it will be one or the other!)
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme - Amatka - this poor book keeps getting nominated. I see you, book.
10. Won a smaller or regional award - The Bone People (okay, sure, it won a Booker, but it also won a New Zealand Book Award)
11. What a title?! - The Blind Owl (I am compelled. I sympathize, owl.)
12. Published in a memorable year - The Rook (year I joined GR and got married, aw)
14. Seven or Twenty - Scarlet, Book 1 - 7th book on my TBR
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages - Barsk: The Elephants' Graveyard - he's a linguist and the founder of the Klingon language society, so it should fit the bill.
18. LOLed IRL - The Mane Event - I was recommended this during a hilarious conversation.
19. Seen in an ad or on social media - The Wood Wife. The cover got me.

Completed so far are;
1. Inspired by a meme - The Prosperity Gospel: How Scott Morrison won and Bill Shorten lost.
3. Small publisher - A Time to Die: The Untold Story of the Kursk Tragedy.
4. Relationship between humans/animals - Dogs of War.
5. Recommended by a public figure - The World As It Is: Inside the Obama White House.
6. Steal from someone else - All the Birds in the Sky.
7. Makes you wonder - Ghost Fleet: A Novel of the Next World War.
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme - Exilium - From the 2019 TBR Challenge number 20, a graphic or illustrated novel.
9. #ownvoices - Dark Emu - Indigenous Australian.
10. Won a smaller or regional award - The Admirals: Nimitz, Halsey, Leahy, and King—the Five-Star Admirals Who Won the War at Sea.
11. What a title?! - I Hate Fairyland, Vol. 1: Madly Ever After.
12. Published in a memorable year - 2312.
14. Seven or Twenty - A Canticle for Leibowitz - The 7th Hugo Award winner.
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages - Saga, Vol. 1. Arguably reaching a bit here, but there is some unique slang in this series.
17. The next True Blood (ie, the next series that I will not bother to continue on with unless it improves with this book) - Devil Said Bang.
19. Seen in an ad or on social media - We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy.
20. Hindsight is 20/20 - Time and Time Again.
Still to go;
2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) - SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome.
13. #relatable - Man's Search for Meaning.
16. Pushing the boundaries - Genghis Khan.
18. LOLed IRL - Witches Abroad.
I'm halfway through Genghis Khan now, so hopefully I might still get through them.

You have some good books on that list. I just wish I could find A Canticle for Leibowitz in an electronic format. I generally don't buy Fantasy or Sci-Fi because I generally don't want them taking up space on my book shelves. That is for WWII books. LOL

https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/a-ca...
it's like Nook but in Europe and they have a desktop and an ios app. I'm not sure if it will work outside Europe though
and it is available as an audiobook through Audible:
https://www.audible.com/pd/A-Canticle...

It's a great read DJ. I'd never read it before but it's one I can see myself re-visiting in the future.

My books here
This was a light scifi year of reading. Only 5 or 6 in the tbr challenge. I have read 8 book club books this year however some were borrowed from the library or didn't fit the challenge tasks.

My books here
This was a light scifi year of reading. Only 5 or 6 in the tbr challenge. I have read 8 book club books this year however some were borrowed from th..."
Well done Monica. That's an interesting list too. I've added a few to my TBR.
Why does the TBR Challenge always end up with me putting more books on my TBR list than taking off?


1. Inspired by a meme
Redshirts ✅ a funny quick book for Star Trek fans and Will Wheaton does an amazing audio performance
2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win)
Gods of Jade and Shadow ✅ 4 nominations that it didn't win Nebula Award Nominee for Best Novel (2019), Locus Award Nominee for Best Fantasy Novel (2020), Prix Aurora Award Nominee for Best Novel (2020), Goodreads Choice Award Nominee for Fantasy (2019)
3. Small publisher
Not Your Villain ✅ Trans Superhero MC from Duet Books
4. Relationship between humans/animals
The Princess and the Horse ✅ 4th in a series that has stories of shapeshifting animals to humans or humans to animals and relationships between animals and humans
5. Recommended by a public figure
Wild Beauty ✅ had to stretch public figure to be bookstagrammer since my original choice Know My Name (Saw interview on Daily Show) wasn't available at my library
6. Steal from someone else
I Wish You All the Best ✅ Stole from Queer Lit Challenge List
7. Makes you wonder
The Library at Mount Char ✅ Most of the reviews include WTF did I just read lol; it did make me wonder
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme
All the SciFi Ladies
The Obelisk Gate ✅ so happy I choose this, ended up re-reading the first book and finished the series, one of my all time favorites
9. #ownvoices
Pet✅ Trans MC by Trans author, wonderful fantasy middle grade fiction
10. Won a smaller or regional award
The Great Michigan Read Award
Station Eleven ✅ I read this at the beginning of the year and boy was it ominous
11. What a title?!
Girl Made of Stars ✅ originally I was going to do Oryx and Crake but my library does not have the ebook and it has been closed most of the year
12. Published in a memorable year: 2020
Heartstopper: Volume Three ✅ I think we all can agree that 2020 is and will be a memorable year - this is the third in my favorite graphic novels this year
13. #relatable
Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America ✅ Kendi is a great historian and this a book is a must read
14. Seven or Twenty
Over Sea, Under Stone ✅ 20 on the TBR ended up disappointed in this one
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages
The BFG✅
16. Pushing the boundaries
Parable of the Sower ✅ I read this at the beginning of the year with Station Eleven and both started hitting too close to home
17. The next Fault in our Stars
The Stars and the Blackness Between Them ✅ heartbreaking and beautiful
18. LOLed IRL
Wow, No Thank You. ✅ Irby always makes me laugh and sometimes cringe lol
19. Seen in an ad or on social media
The Left Hand of Darkness ✅ My urge is always to read all the Le Guin and Butler I can but I try to space it out since no new books are coming so I choose this one since it was a re-read and loved it and the discussion!
20. Hindsight is 20/20
Mistakes Were Made ✅ Chose this for the title not the content, mistakes WERE made lol

"15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages The BFG✅..."
Dang! Wish I had thought of that one!
I am certainly not avoiding Brown Girl in the Ring, but The BFG would be half as long, half the grade-level, and half as emotionally challenging!
(And please, everyone, think about our future as friends before you come back at me with any "half-as" jokes...)

I did a short book for that too: The Red Badge of Courage.

"15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages The BFG✅..."
Dang! Wish I had thought of that one!
I am certainly not avoiding Brown Girl in the Ring, but [book:The BF..."
Sometimes something that falls into all of those categories is just what you need at the moment. Kudos for actually saying it.

✔︎ 1. Inspired by a meme: Free Chocolate (Which way to the clubhouse chocolate table?)
✔︎ 8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme: The Engines of God ("April 2017 First Contact Sci-Fi" and a good candidate for a future "Reckless and Unprofessional Behavior" poll)
✔︎ 9. #ownvoices: Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge, and the Teachings of Plants (A fascinating book on the intersection of Western science and Indigenous culture)
Overall progress: 16/20
Will I finish this year? Outlook hazy. Ask again later.

1. Inspired by a meme The Future of Another Timeline (view spoiler)
2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) Cinder
3. Small publisher The Living
4. Relationship between humans/animals Hollow Kingdom (view spoiler)
5. Recommended by a public figure The Martian (view spoiler)
6. Steal from someone else Love Poems (view spoiler)
7. Makes you wonder Catfishing on CatNet (view spoiler)
8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme Robogenesis - We Are Sci-Fi Family (Found Family)
9. #ownvoices The House in the Cerulean Sea (view spoiler)
10. Won a smaller or regional award Middlegame (view spoiler)
11. What a title?! How Rory Thorne Destroyed the Multiverse
12. Published in a memorable year A Wizard’s Guide to Defensive Baking (view spoiler)
13. #relatable Ready Player One (view spoiler)
14. Seven or Twenty Riot Baby (view spoiler)
15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages The Windup Girl
16. Pushing the boundaries The Vanished Birds (view spoiler)
17. The next [insert popular series here] The Burning World (view spoiler)
18. LOLed IRL Artificial Condition
19. Seen in an ad or on social media Rogue Protocol (view spoiler)
20. Hindsight is 20/20 This Is How You Lose the Time War (view spoiler)

Oof! Oh to be back in 2019 when we were planning all the 2020 related prompts/challenges, thinking it would be a glorious year!

I shouldn't have been drinking coffee when I read the details on that one. Boy howdy. What an excellent choice on the year.
Congratulations on the completion!

✔️1. Inspired by a meme: The Consuming Fire, inspired by the 'This is Fine' meme which is a dog sitting calmly in a room being consumed by fire https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/this-i...
✔️2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win): changed to Raven Tower
✔️ 3. Small publisher: Rock Manning Goes for Broke, Subterranean Press.
✔️ 4. Relationship between humans/animals: changed to Death Masks, because of the pet cat, Mister
✔️ 5. Recommended by a public figure: Terminal Alliance, Seanan McGuire recommended this series.
✔️ 6. Steal from someone else: Network Effect, thanks Anna!
✔️7. Makes you wonder: Whispers Under Ground, I wonder what they are whispering (also this whole series makes me wonder)
✔️8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme: changed to City of Bones, M. Wells, desert fantasy theme
✔️9. #ownvoices: Lagoon, set in Nigeria and Nnedi Okorafor is Nigerian-American
✔️10. Won a smaller or regional award: Redemption in Indigo, won a Golden Tentacle award.
✔️ 11. What a title?!: A Monstrous Regiment of Women
✔️12. Published in a memorable year: The Bear and the Nightingale, my parent's 50th wedding anniversary year.
✔️ 13. #relatable: The Perks of Being a Wallflower, High School, ugh.
✔️ 14. Seven or Twenty: Record of a Spaceborn Few, #20 on my TBR by date added.
✔️15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages: changed to Happy Hour of the Damned which I DNF'd (it was terrible)
✔️16. Pushing the boundaries, changed to Talulla Rising,
✔️ 17. The next [insert popular series here]: The Big Over Easy, reviewers compared it to Harry Potter and Lemony Snicket, plus The Simpsons, South Park and Monty Python for good measure.
✔️ 18. LOLed IRL: Mort, I anticipate lol-ing IRL when I read this.
✔️19. Seen in an ad or on social media: Heartstone, someone I follow on Twitter posted about this book and I had to have it.
✔️20. Hindsight is 20/20: Geisha, a Life, an autobiography

✔️1. Inspired by a meme: The Consuming Fire, inspired by the 'This is Fine'..."
The Big over Easy sounds like it would be schizophrenic. I am not sure what I would think of that much going on in one book. Was it much like any or all of those things?

✔️1. Inspired by a meme: The Consuming Fire, inspired by t..."
It had a lot going on, probably too much (subplots, characters). It was like Monty Python in terms of snarky and smart British humor, but not really like the others.

✔️1. Inspired by a meme: The Consuming Fire, in..."
Maybe I will give it a glance. I like snarky humor. LOL

✔️1. Inspired by a meme: [book:The Consuming F..."
Fforde's plots share some similarity with Douglas Adams. This series is a police procedural, set in the world of nursery rhymes and fairy tales, but all the characters have off-screen lives (off-page?). It follows logically from the Thursday Next stories.

✔️1. Inspired by a meme: [book:The ..."
It was fun and had a lot of humor, both overt and subtle. I found it a bit over-stuffed which overshadowed the actual mystery and took away any urgency. I enjoyed the Thursday Next books and found them a bit more focussed on the main story, while still having all sorts of zaniness and literary humor.

✔️1. Inspired by a mem..."
I think I just man-splained. Oops. Many profuse apologies.

✔️1. ..."
I didn't perceive it that way, I thought you were giving more info to Dj, but I do appreciate and accept your apology.

✔️1. ..."
Didn't bother me, that was more or less what I was looking for.

12. Published in a memorable year - The Steerswoman (1989 - fall of the Berlin Wall)
14. Seven or Twenty - Queen & Commander (the 20th unread book on my e-reader)

✔ 1. Inspired by a meme - Voyage of the Dogs / Dogsbody *
✔ 2. Nominated for 2+ awards (didn't win) - The Memory Police
✔ 3. Small publisher - The Girl With No Hands and Other Tales
✔ 4. Relationship between humans/animals - The History of Bees
✔ 5. Recommended by a public figure - Jagannath
✔ 6. Steal from someone else - The Tiger Flu
✔ 7. Makes you wonder - Medusa in the Graveyard
✔ 8. Fits a past SFFBC nomination theme - Survival
✔ 9. #ownvoices - Love Beyond Body, Space, and Time
✔ 10. Won a smaller or regional award - Wicked Gentlemen
✔ 11. What a title?! - A Wizard's Guide To Defensive Baking
✔ 12. Published in a memorable year - My Real Children **
✔ 13. #relatable - Network Effect
✔ 14. Seven or Twenty - The Relentless Moon
✔ 15. Dialect, slang, or pidgin languages - Skin Folk
✔ 16. Pushing the boundaries - The Vela
✔ 17. The next [insert popular series here] - Hollowpox
✔ 18. LOLed IRL - Cat Pictures Please and Other Stories
✔ 19. Seen in an ad or on social media - Gamechanger
✔ 20. Hindsight is 20/20 - The Library of Legends
Reasons for choosing these books: (view spoiler)
* I didn't read Dogsbody yet, I might still, but I left it because I wanted to leave the meme :)
** I don't know how long I would've waited if it wasn't for this challenge, and it was one of the best books I've ever read. I've certainly talked about it a lot this year!["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>

And thanks, Allison! I may have to put some of my other current reads on hold until the new year, but so be it.

Congratulations, Anna! Wonderfully done!
I had to give up on this one, unfortunately.

✔ 1. Inspired by a meme - Voyage of the Dogs / [book:Dogsbody|157754..."
Congrats I have dipped into A Wizard's Guide and am enjoying it.

Yeah. YEAH, that's it! I was Giving More Information. Yeah....

Congratulations on getting both of those done!

LoL

Yay!"
I am eager to start picking out some new books, that is a part of the fun of this challenge.


TBR Cleanup 2020 - November Update
12/20
(view spoiler) ["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>

Eh, I know that struggle from the last two years.
What has helped me this year was to limit my selection to books I actually own, though that, too, isn't foolproof, I guess.
Amanda wrote: "Yeah, for next years I'll need to try to pick books I actually want to read, not just "happen to be on my list" books. I got about halfway through and then ran into a big ol wall of "don't wanna""
I usually take that as a sign. If I put it on my TBR and can't even force myself to read it for a challenge, usually it's time to question if it needs to stay on the TBR. If not, then I still have completed the challenge! TBR shorter! Mischief managed!
I usually take that as a sign. If I put it on my TBR and can't even force myself to read it for a challenge, usually it's time to question if it needs to stay on the TBR. If not, then I still have completed the challenge! TBR shorter! Mischief managed!

Any other year I'd agree but I think a lot of it in this case is "It's 2020 and everything's a struggle"
Not to mention I also tried to mainly limit it to books I own, unless it's something I'm really looking forward to, so they'd still mentally be there, since I technically could read them at any time.
I think for next year though I will see if I can limit it to books I consciously chose to put on my list, as opposed to "eh, it's on sale and I might be interested at some point"
Books mentioned in this topic
The Dispossessed (other topics)Pan Lodowego Ogrodu. Tom 1 (other topics)
The Sisters Brothers (other topics)
Clay's Ark (other topics)
Deathless (other topics)
More...
Authors mentioned in this topic
Jonathan L. Howard (other topics)Tana French (other topics)
Liu Cixin (other topics)
Adrian Tchaikovsky (other topics)
Adrian Tchaikovsky (other topics)
More...
Looking forward to seeing what you've come up with this time!