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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Heard mention online that people want to see Ncuti interact with other Doctors, and while it would be great to see him with Jodi or Jo Martin, I would love to see him interact with a Classic Doctor.

Do 'Time crash 2' with him and Colin.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments How'd I miss that BF had done new Stingray and Fireball XL5 stories...?

That's very cool!


message 2303: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments I’ve gotten the Space 1999 stuff, which has been quite good. The UFO stuff hadn’t worked for me though.


message 2304: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "I’ve gotten the Space 1999 stuff, which has been quite good. The UFO stuff hadn’t worked for me though."

UFO is an odd show and I can see it being hard to continue, as the continuity is a mess.
I think it is more beloved for its look and cast, than its writing.
It was the Torchwood of the 70's.


message 2305: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Certainly a fair assessment.


message 2306: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Certainly a fair assessment."

I like the show, but it's a mess.
Really curious what might have happened if they'd gotten a season 2.


message 2307: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Space 1999 started out as UFO season 2 - but development changed radically when UFO didn’t get renewed.


message 2308: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Space 1999 started out as UFO season 2 - but development changed radically when UFO didn’t get renewed."

I had heard that and think it is a fascinating 'what if...?' about what might have been.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Someone online mentioned that the only show that comes close to Doctor Who's record is Scooby Doo.

And now I want a team up.
You could do it with any Doctor from 3 on.
Or all of them.


message 2310: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments No, no, no.
Just no.
Please no.


message 2311: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "No, no, no.
Just no.
Please no."


You're no fun.


message 2312: by Rick (last edited May 03, 2025 08:21AM) (new)

Rick | 2260 comments So I’ve been told.
Or should that be …
So, I’ve been told.


message 2313: by Lori S. (last edited May 03, 2025 05:13PM) (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Travis wrote: "Someone online mentioned that the only show that comes close to Doctor Who's record is Scooby Doo.

And now I want a team up.
You could do it with any Doctor from 3 on.
Or all of them."


Velma and 15 as a team up? Sign me up.


message 2314: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Rick wrote: "So I’ve been told.
Or should that be …
So, I’ve been told."


😂


message 2315: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "Someone online mentioned that the only show that comes close to Doctor Who's record is Scooby Doo.

And now I want a team up.
You could do it with any Doctor from 3 on.
Or all of the..."


I was thinking Ace would love hanging out with the Scooby kids.


message 2316: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Or what about when Shaggy and Scooby try Jelly babies for the first time...!


message 2317: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments No! No scooby! Stop! 😩


message 2318: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Next you’re gonna want scooby to meet K-9 😩


message 2319: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Next you’re gonna want scooby to meet K-9 😩"

Stop peeking at my notes!


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments It was Free comic book day and it looks like Doctor Who didn't have an issue this year or my shop didn't save me one.

Either way, bummer.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments To all that celebrate: May the Fourth be with you!


message 2322: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Ah, but are prepared for the Revenge of the Fifth!


message 2323: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "To all that celebrate: May the Fourth be with you!"

I celebrated yesterday by going to see Monty Python and the Holy Grail on the big screen.


message 2324: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Ah, but are prepared for the Revenge of the Fifth!"

I just figure the dark side types wanted their own holiday.
Seems fair.
You can never have too much Star Wars.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Does the UNIT and/or Sea devils project have a release date?
Feels like some stuff in Lucky Day was intended as set up.


message 2326: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments I don’t they’ve made anything specific. But I think I’d heard it was due in the fall.


message 2327: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "Does the UNIT and/or Sea devils project have a release date?
Feels like some stuff in Lucky Day was intended as set up."


And, yes, I got that impression as well.


message 2328: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Thunderbolts is a solid movie.
Really good balance of big comic book stuff and smaller ideas.


message 2329: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "Thunderbolts is a solid movie.
Really good balance of big comic book stuff and smaller ideas."





message 2330: by Rick (last edited May 08, 2025 12:22PM) (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Big Finish announced the opening of the 10th year of the new writer competition. This year they’re specifically looking for a 13th Doctor and Yaz story.

https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/tent...


message 2331: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Big Finish announced the opening of the 10th year of the new writer competition. This year they’re specifically looking for a 13th Doctor and Yaz story.

https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/tent......"


Hoping to get my act together and submit something this year.


message 2332: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments All the best.
Break a leg.
Good luck.
You got this.
Knock ‘em dead.
Bon chance.


message 2333: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "All the best.
Break a leg.
Good luck.
You got this.
Knock ‘em dead.
Bon chance."


Just checked out the guidelines: I can use any 13th Doctor companions!
I can write a Graham/Doctor story!
Cool.


message 2334: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Cool!


message 2335: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Graham and the Doctor! 💕💕


message 2336: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth | 35 comments Lori S. wrote: "Graham and the Doctor! 💕💕"

My thoughts exactly! 🥰


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Don't know how many comic readers are here, but I need to grumble:

The constant ending a series and then immediately restarting it with a new #1 issue makes me crazy.
Just saw an announcement that a series I love is ending with issue #25, only to have a friend tell me it's restarting in august with the same creative team!
2025 is rough!
Stop playing with my emotions like that


message 2338: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Unfortunately the comic book publishers realized in the late 70s that issue #1s sell disproportionately more copies than anything else. And it only got worse in the 80s with the rise of comic book specialty stores. There was the explosion of the mini-series to capitalize on this purchasing phenomenon, irritating me personally as it meant the permanent demise of the rotating feature titles like Marvel Premiere and Marvel Spotlight. The speculative market seemed to reach its lowest depths with the 90s and the multi-cover, bagged with exclusive cards, and special material cover insanity of the 90s. But then came the constant hard or soft REBOOTS to get new readers interested. And I gave up shortly thereafter.
A few titles I was still enough hard core to keep up on, Fantastic Four, Indiana Jones, Doc Savage, Farscape, Elfquest, Doctor Who, but those have all eventually dropped off as well as trade paperback collections have consumed the market place. But that’s another story.


message 2339: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "Don't know how many comic readers are here, but I need to grumble:

The constant ending a series and then immediately restarting it with a new #1 issue makes me crazy. ..."


My long winded way of saying: I hear ya.


message 2340: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments I don't mind everything getting a TPB collection, as there are some series on my wish list that I could never afford otherwise.

DC and marvel's greed means that I own complete runs on some series I had no chance of collecting all the single issues.


message 2341: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments My gripe about trades isn’t that they publish them, it’s that they have them written specifically for collection publication now. Gone of single issue stories or a story that spans a number of issues other than 4 or 6 of 12, along with the constant renumbering of series. It’s the same thing as “killing off” a major character, and then just bringing them back a couple issues later. Boring. Uninspired. Zero creativity. There aren’t new stories anymore, it’s just marketing and retelling the same stories again and again.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Yeah, don't love 'writing for the trade' or it's brother 'I hope the MCU picks this story'

I mostly enjoy when a character gets attention in the comics or movies and then they immediately release a trade of their early, hard to get appearances to cash in.

That part I do like.


message 2343: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "… That part I do like."

That’s the part I like as well. Still waiting for Master of Kung Fu Epic Collection, Vol. 3: Traitors to the Crown.


message 2344: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "… That part I do like."

That’s the part I like as well. Still waiting for Master of Kung Fu Epic Collection, Vol. 3: Traitors to the Crown."


I've picked up the occasional issue of MoKF, but never got around to sitting down to read the whole thing.
Someday.


message 2345: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments The comic is absolutely NOTHING like the film. It’s basically a rift on or mashup of James Bond and Bruce Lee. In the comic, Shang Chi’s father is The Insidious Dr. Fu Manchu, but the character was still under copyright at the time. The Fu Manchu connection has since been retconned away. There’s also a lot of offensive racist stereotypes that come with Fu Manchu, that’s undeniable.


message 2346: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "The comic is absolutely NOTHING like the film. It’s basically a rift on or mashup of James Bond and Bruce Lee. In the comic, Shang Chi’s father is The Insidious Dr. Fu Manchu, but t..."

Like the movie, but the more relaxed, chatty Shang-Chi, I didn't love.
I prefer the stoic one of the comic.
Bugs me that the comics has started writing him as the movie version, as classic Shang plays great off of other super heroes.

I like the issues I have but feel I need to sit down and read the whole saga.


message 2347: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Love the movie and that the character is interesting and updated. I've looked at the classic comics and they're just too much like Bruce Lee for my tastes. Too each their own though.


message 2348: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Lori S. wrote: "Love the movie and that the character is interesting and updated. I've looked at the classic comics and they're just too much like Bruce Lee for my tastes. Too each their own though."

It is very period piece, like reading the original Bond novels.


message 2349: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2260 comments This is very true. I LOVED the comics as a kid. I still enjoy them, but I can see the dated nature of the characterization, the stereotypes, and the racism (some intentional, some unintentional). And yes, it is pretty obvious that he was patterned off Bruce Lee.
The film is a completely separate character. You can’t even really compare them. The movie had magic, the comic doesn’t. The film wisely chose NOT to try and use Fu Manchu or some other variant of the “yellow peril” threat from Marvel like Yellow Claw or the original comic concept of the Mandarin. I mean, how many stereotypical Chinese arch villains did Marvel comics need? The Yellow Claw was already Marvel’s answer to Fu Manchu, and their way of getting around paying royalties, but then they added the Mandarin, and then actually used Fu Manchu, and paid for it when they already had the Yellow Claw and/or the Mandarin they could have used. It’s all so ridiculous.


message 2350: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "This is very true. I LOVED the comics as a kid. I still enjoy them, but I can see the dated nature of the characterization, the stereotypes, and the racism (some intentional, some unintentional). A..."

What I like about the movie is that instead of handwringing about the old stuff being problematic, they just updated the character and got themselves a great actor.
He's still a composite of marvel's yellow peril characters, but he's a modern version.
They kept the basic stuff, scraped off the bad bits and actually got an Asian actor to play him.

One of my only grumbles about the movie is that the stuff between Shang and his dad is so good, I actually got annoyed when the dragon showed up.


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