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Am I the only one who hates Annabeth?
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Ananth
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Jun 28, 2014 11:03AM
Annabeth is strong. She may not have any powers, but that will make it so that she has to have perfect fighting skills because she can't depend on a wild fire.
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Ananth wrote: "Annabeth is strong. She may not have any powers, but that will make it so that she has to have perfect fighting skills because she can't depend on a wild fire."She may not have any obvious natural powers, but her wisdom is greater than that of all the seven.
It would be cool is she could control the Brains jobs.
Kamiko wrote: "Um.... I will try not to get angry. Annabeth hated Tyson the first time she saw him because he's a cyclops. Not all cyclops are good. Tyson is awesome, though. Annabeth almost died because of a cy..."
I agree
I agree
Genevieve wrote: "I feel like that's a big part of her character development. A twelve-year-old comes into contact with something of the same species that caused the death of her best friend. It's similar to a fear ..."
Yeah and even percy has developed and changed so much
Yeah and even percy has developed and changed so much
Kaitlyn wrote: "Genevieve wrote: "I feel like that's a big part of her character development. A twelve-year-old comes into contact with something of the same species that caused the death of her best friend. It's ..."
mine too
mine too
I really don't want to repeat the earlier argument since it was about 14 pages long, and no she is not the only one who hates Annabeth. I, personally love Annabeth, but I can't make everyone love something that they dislike, unfortunately.
Shahdia wrote: "Hey, to all of you guys who hate on everyone who hates Annabeth? Read this.You know on the first page, where there's a deleted member comment? Yeah. That was me, back in my Annabeth-hating days. ..."
I'm sorry to hear that, but keep in mind that some people will never change. It's best to just ignore them if they are being rude and besides the point.
But seriously guys, WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS. Not hate on others! If you don't like what someone has to say, you can ask them why, or rebuke them with your own logic and on and on. But no RUDE or MEAN comments.
Nico probably hates Annabeth, so no, you're probably not alone. ;)
Wow. I can't believe we never discussed that.
I love Annabeth! She is one of the only stong female charcters in ya fiction along with Hermione. Unlike a certian vampire we all know....
I LOVE Annabeth. How could you not?
Genevieve wrote: "I feel like that's a big part of her character development. A twelve-year-old comes into contact with something of the same species that caused the death of her best friend. It's similar to a fear ..."I just wanted to add on. Annabeth has also admitted that pride was her fatal flaw, or hubris, I think is the actual term she used which means the same thing
Fatema wrote: "what are you talking about? i love annabeth. she's smart, pretty, and a thinker. she had some bad experiences. if you were in her shoes, you would have judged tyson too."I hated Tyson at the beginning of Sea of Monsters because he was so embarrassing. Now I love him :)
BubblesTheMonkey wrote: "Nico probably hates Annabeth, so no, you're probably not alone. ;)"Oh yeah! Nico is my favorite character while Annabeth is my least favorite. This totally makes sense now :D
Nico doesn't exactly hate her, well, he sort of does, but he can tolerate her.
I mean, he wants to hate her, but he doesn't.
Yeah, Nico does not hate Annabeth. He might envy her a bit, but not Hate. Really, his feelings for her have nothing to do with her at all, but with Percy.
But some character relations are a bit odd to understand.Frank - Piper
Leo - Frank
Piper - Hazel
Hazel - Annabeth
Jason - Frank
Wow. Another thing I've never thought about. It is weird. we've never read about those character relationships.
You put my thoughts into words, but again, the two sides have made peace
Ananth wrote: "But some character relations are a bit odd to understand.Frank - Piper
Leo - Frank
Piper - Hazel
Hazel - Annabeth
Jason - Frank"
There has been some development between Jason-Frank, Piper-Hazel, and Hazel-Annabeth, but not a lot I admit.
I don't care much for Frank and Piper. They're so different from each other...
I want to see Hazel-Annabeth.
Your not the only one sweetie I also despise Annabeth. I think she's the worst character in the entire series and annoying. I understand she had a bad past with Cyclops' but that didn't give her the automatic right to be a bitch to Tyson when he was practically worshiping her.
She has a genius IQ but that doesn't mean she gets a free pass to act like she's better than the gods. When people say it is completely normal and expected of a girl to be mean because said girl has a crush on your crush like Rachel did they forget that Rachel was being nice to her and Annabeth still hated her despite Rachel trying to be civil.
I also don't like Percebeth. First off there personalities clash in a way that would make any realistic relationship dysfunctional but people pass it off as opposites attract. I personally love those kind off relationships but Percebeth just doesn't make it work and there characters are so different in a realistic setting they would hate each other. Chris and Clarisse are a better example for this kind of relationship.
Secondly its an abusive relationship. Honestly if there genders were switched and a male Annabeth judo flipped a female Percy the romans would have skewered him by now. But no. It's considered cute when a girl does it. She basically calls him stupid all the time but its overlooked and again considered cute. Boy or girl you wouldn't want your love interest doing this to you but everybody waves it off just because the genders are switched.
Thirdly it's completely cliché. The strong hero falls in love with the smart but battle challenged blonde princess and its happily ever after. It just makes me want to gag at how stupid and unoriginal there relationship is.
And by the way she is battle challenged. She carries around a small knife as her only protection. Any amount of experience isn't goanna change the fact that its a puny knife. She is the least powerful demigod in the whole series but people still describe her as badass and scary. It's like Rick is trying to make people think Annabeth is more than she is.
Also if Annabeth were a real character many of her fans wouldn't like her personality wise. Think of her flaws: Pride, envy, moodiness, dependency, and being judgmental. Those are flaws many people hate in people but with sweet little Annabeth it's like she is put on a pedestal and all her flaws are either ignored or she has a right to act like that because of her bad past or she's just awesome. I understand any realistic character needs flaws to not be a Mary Sue but all that combined in one just makes them annoying.
I honestly don't see why people like her so much and think she's the best character in all of literature history.
Nano wrote: "Your not the only one sweetie I also despise Annabeth. I think she's the worst character in the entire series and annoying. I understand she had a bad past with Cyclops' but that didn't give her th..."I almost read the whole thing. Please, either indent or put your thoughts into paragraphs..
I'll have to get back to you soon, busy right now, but don't think your post will go unnoticed ;) I can already rebute most of your points... but yeah, busy. Coming soon, ok?
That is going WAY too far. I nearly choked on air when I read that. There is only so much I can handle. I can also counter anything you say, but I won't bother. This is war!!! Just kidding...or am I?
I just read what I said, and realized it was offensive, so...no offense...
It's Ok I just don't like her and my fingers wouldn't stop typing.
Yeah, you typed A LOT.
I'm feeling available now. Rebute time XD
You-"I understand she had a bad past with Cyclops' but that didn't give her the automatic right to be a bitch to Tyson when he was practically worshiping her." Actually, realistically speaking, it does give her the right. Not to be a b***, but she wasn't being that. You know what you just did there? You pulled a red herring. It's a misleading technique. You're calling her a b*** when all she did was not accept him or act supper friendly before him. That's acceptable considering what she has been through as a child.
You- "She has a genius IQ but that doesn't mean she gets a free pass to act like she's better than the gods."
She's a genius. Yes. But her FATAL FLAW is HUBRIS. That means excessive pride. So far, your points are very weak. Before I continue, I just want to say: You want Annabeth to be a PERFECT, KIND protagonist. You want her to be your typical nice and flawless character. From your agruements, that's clear. So all I can say to you: Sorry she's not fake and perfect. I'm sorry that like a human, she has flaws.
You- "When people say it is completely normal and expected of a girl to be mean because said girl has a crush on your crush...Annabeth still hated her despite Rachel trying to be civil."
It is completely normal. My friend "CC" liked this guy named "oliver" but this other girl "vv" liked him too. We were young, about the same age as Annabeth. My friend was pretty rotten to "VV". But again, you're misleading. Annabeth wasn't even mean. She's allowed not to like certain people. Again, you want her to be perfect.
YOU- "I also don't like Percebeth. First off there personalities clash in a way that would make any realistic relationship dysfunctional but people pass it off as opposites attract."
That's your opinion. I think it's adorable how their personalities mix up. There are times when they both need each other. It's adorable.
YOU- "Secondly its an abusive relationship"
*Dies Laughing* You sound like some eccentric Twilight hater. If the boy were to flip the girl (first of all he wouldn't, second of all he'd probs catch her) but because it's Annabeth, it makes sense. She knows Percy better than anyone. She knows how strong he is. We're not talking about a normal boy. We're talking son of the big three baby.
You- "She basically calls him stupid all the time but its overlooked and again considered cute."
I see, you would rather she clung to him like a shy or over infatuated girl? Again, you want a perfect ideal of a girl. When I have feelings for some guy, I can't help but call him things like "idiot" or "doof". It's actually very realistic. She's masking her adoration probs because she feels embarrassed. Like me. Sorry she's not perfect again. And oh, if the genders were switched you say? Normally, it's the women who act this way... even in real life. So??
YOU- "Thirdly it's completely cliché. The strong hero falls in love with the smart but battle challenged blonde princess and its happily ever after. It just makes me want to gag at how stupid and unoriginal there relationship is."
You think Percy is strong?? aww. And yes, he is, but so is Annabeth. But he's also weak because of his lack of better judgment. That's where Annabeth compliments him. She makes up for his stupidity. For his lack of strategy. Call it cliché, but it's about the way the author executes the idea that makes is original.
YOU- " She carries around a small knife as her only protection. Any amount of experience isn't gonna change the fact that its a puny knife"
She carries something more powerful than a knife. Her battle strategy and her wisdom. She's the freaking daughter of Athena. And heretobefore, she has never needed anything more.
YOU- "She is the least powerful demigod in the whole series"
Your opinion. But actually, she isn't even meant to harbour strength, but Wisdom and strategy. And these qualities make her more effective than all the characters combined. I'm sorry, again, that's she's not your powerful perfect, nice girl. If you want a Mary Sue, go read some Paranormal Romance.
YOU- " I honestly don't see why people like her so much and think she's the best character in all of literature history. "
Exaggerating much? No one thinks she's the best in all of history. Stop trying to stuff words into our mouths.
Your previous points about her personality. In real life, most of us feel pride and envy "moodiness, dependency, and being judgmental". How can one hate what one contains? We all carry these as humans. They're more defined in Annabeth to distinguish her as a character.
Anyway, so you're telling me you hate Annabeth because she's not perfect enough?? You want her to be:
-A nice girl to Tyson from the get go (which wouldn't make sense to the reader considering her history)
-You want her to suppress her Fatal flaw and act all pitiful and bow before the gods?
-You want her to be nice and gentle with Percy
-You want her to ignore the fact that she is the daughter of Athena. You want her to ignore her battle strategy and wisdom and instead carry around big swords?? You think a bigger sword is easier to wield??
-You want her to be without characteristics that make her real (pride, moodiness).
You want a Barbie doll, in other words. If so, than I'm sorry Annabeth isn't all that..plastic.
Oh, and if you want to argue character personality, let me know k? ;PFinal point!!
And even if there are moments when I don't like Annabeth, I'm ok with that. Why? Because that makes her more believable. I love my family but at times I feel so much "ugh" towards them.
Unlike what I see from your arguments, I don't want a Perfect Mary Sue.
Nightlock wrote: "I probably am. I'm going to have a lot of people go against me on this thread but I'll stand up for what I believe in because I don't understand what's so likable about Annabeth. OK, she's wise and..."I don't hate Annabeth, but I like people who aren't afarid to let all the lovers that they hate that person.
YOU'RE SUPER AWESOME!!! (virtual high five)
I don't want her to be perfect I want her to be less annoying. Also thank you for actually writing that. I still disagree with you and hate her but a lot of people just say "your wrong" and that's it. I was expecting disagreements but I will always hate her.
By the way, she hates being blonde. She said that(technically thought, not said) in The Heroes of Olympus. I don't remember which book, but she said that she hates being blonde because people never take her seriously. Blonde princess? Now that is a bad argument. She might be really pretty, but that doesn't mean she's a barbie doll. Hello? She is completely the opposite. She is not a complete damsel in distress, she doesn't wear makeup, and does not fall in love with someone name Ken(I don't think that's a good argument, but Zanib put all my jumbled up thoughts into a way better argument than I could've done
H99 wrote: "Zanib wrote: "You-"I understand she had a bad past with Cyclops' but that didn't give her the automatic right to be a bitch to Tyson when he was practically worshiping her." Actually, realistica..."
Exactly. Not to mention she has grown up with the belief that all Cyclops are evil... One cannot eradicate beliefs that one has harboured all of one's life.
*shiz, I'm doing that "one" thing again, noo*
Nano wrote: "I don't want her to be perfect I want her to be less annoying. Also thank you for actually writing that. I still disagree with you and hate her but a lot of people just say "your wrong" and that's ..."I don't expect your opinions to change. I'm simply letting any on lookers know that there are multiple opinions and counterarguments out there.
Like your idea of less annoying is "more perfect" in my eyes.
On a side note, we revived this thread XD
It was so off topic, yeah...
Zanib Wrote:I don't expect your opinions to change. I'm simply letting any on lookers know that there are multiple opinions and counterarguments out there.Ok I can accept that. Agree to disagree. I also like to see everyone's argument so thanks.
H99 wrote: "Zanib wrote: "H99 wrote: "Zanib wrote: "You-"I understand she had a bad past with Cyclops' but that didn't give her the automatic right to be a bitch to Tyson when he was practically worshiping h..."Yes, forgot to mention that part. And with some time and trust, that's exactly what Annabeth did. See? It was nice development right there.
Nah she's fucking annoying right now.
Stephanie wrote: "Nightlock wrote: "I probably am. I'm going to have a lot of people go against me on this thread but I'll stand up for what I believe in because I don't understand what's so likable about Annabeth. ..."Aww thank you :) You're SUPER AWESOME as well B) (returns virtual high five)
And others (Nano, Zanib etc) carry on! I'm too tired and lazy to argue any more but I love reading ur comments :) ;)
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