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Am I the only one who hates Annabeth?

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message 451: by Sadiya (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sadiya Hassan I thought Annabeth was fine in the PJO too. But I really didn't like her in the House of Hades. I just couldn't wait to get her part over with. I don't know why but yeah. I agree with u Nightlock


message 452: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko The most interesting part for me is Percy's then Annabeth's.


message 453: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko Yeah, but you'd have the same pattern of thoughts if Rick just did one of them.


message 454: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko I think Taratrus was interesting


message 455: by sim (new) - rated it 5 stars

sim I didn't think Tartarus was interesting at all...honestly, after all the hype, I expected more. I groaned everytime Percy's and Annabeth's POV came; I was much more interested in what was happening on the Argo II. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that all the Percabeth and mushy talk made me want to be sick but aside from that too, Tartarus was pretty boring and not dangerous enough especially after all the huge help Percy and Annabeth got. I just didn't get the chills, you know?


message 456: by Rachel (last edited Apr 12, 2014 04:57AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rachel Jackson I liked the tartarus parts. Some parts did give me the chills. Like the arai! Or Nyx!


Vanessa I don't like her neither! She's pretty cool in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians, but in Heroes of Olympus? Pffffttt... no.
I understand she's getting bigger and I know she's not 12 anymore. But still.
I used to like her until the Battle of Labyrinth. She was so mean to Rachel! And in Mark of Athena, when she reunites with Percy, she judo-flipped him! LIKE SERIOUSLY! Who would judo-flip their boyfriend! That's just abusive!
I used to ship Percabeth too, until I started to dislike Annabeth


Vanessa Kamiko wrote: "Your defying the laws of books by hating Annabeth"
we as readers, have the right to dislike a character. Now you, please just go chase a donut


message 459: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko Seriously?


message 460: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko Annabeth had plenty if reasons to do what she's done. She even saved Rachel's life, that counts for something.


Vanessa Kamiko wrote: "Annabeth had plenty if reasons to do what she's done. She even saved Rachel's life, that counts for something."

and does that makes Annabeth a perfect Miss-Know-It-All character? No.


message 462: by sim (new) - rated it 5 stars

sim Oh boy, I'm sensing a fight O.o


Vanessa Nightlock wrote: "I probably am. I'm going to have a lot of people go against me on this thread but I'll stand up for what I believe in because I don't understand what's so likable about Annabeth. OK, she's wise and..."

I totally agree. Just because she's smart and pretty and stuffs, that doesn't make her PERFECT!


Vanessa Nightlock wrote: "Oh boy, I'm sensing a fight O.o"

THIS IS SPARTAAAA


message 465: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Vanessa wrote: "Kamiko wrote: "Annabeth had plenty if reasons to do what she's done. She even saved Rachel's life, that counts for something."

and does that makes Annabeth a perfect Miss-Know-It-All character? No."



That's exactly the problem. People just assume her as Miss-know-it-all, but that's just 'part' of her personality!


message 466: by Eiren (last edited Apr 12, 2014 08:40AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Eiren Vanessa wrote: "Nightlock wrote: "I probably am. I'm going to have a lot of people go against me on this thread but I'll stand up for what I believe in because I don't understand what's so likable about Annabeth. ..."

But that's one of the greatest things about her character! Being 'perfect' is impossible for anyone, and it shows shoddy character development when an author doesn't give his characters flaws. Those flaws notwithstanding, Annabeth is still one of my favourite characters of the series.


Vanessa I think it's all about point of view. If the story is told more like from Rachel's point of view, most people would hate Annabeth for being mean to her. But since it's not, RACHEL becomes that girl most people hates


message 468: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Well I don't think theres a reason to hate rachel now is there?


Vanessa Neha (Athena) (Queen Elinor) wrote: "Well I don't think theres a reason to hate rachel now is there?"

there is absolutely no reason to hate Rachel. I think she'll make a pretty cool friend! She loves art, wow! She can predict future, impressive! She's loyal and fun, amazing! There's absolutely no reason to hate her.


Zanib I actually looked forward to the scenes in Tartarus. I mean, and the scene where Percy like controls the poison, that was epic!

And about the whole "no need for percy and Ann's POV" I disagree. With both of their POV's we get to see two different perspectives and reactions...also, up on the Argo, the crew was together and they still got all of their POV's, so it's kind of like the same thing..


message 471: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko Things escalated quickly.

Honestly, whatever I have never met anybody who hates Rachel, so I don't think anybody would hate Annabeth(although, judging from this thread, my feelings about how much everybody thinks of Annabeth has changed.) So what if she's smart? I can understand hating somebody, but you can't hate somebody for no reason!


message 472: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha o.O Woah really?? Well that could explain my first dislikeness towards Sadie Kane...but now of course I like her,not love her though :P


message 473: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko Never knew that, but nobody(I hope) absolutely positively hated Annabeth the first time they met her. Also, if they remind you of someone you don't like, that's sort of a reason.


message 474: by Ananth (new)

Ananth Nobody is perfect.Annabeth isn't an exception.


Zanib Goldenfalcon101 wrote: "Actually, you can hate someone for no reason.

*Getting all sciencey here*
According to psychologists you can hate someone instantly for no reason. They might remind you of someone you've had a bad..."


I think you're not giving us the whole truth here. It's true that you may feel opposed to someone from the first time you ever see them, but to hate would be taking it kind of far. You cannot HATE, but you can feel discomfited around whoever. Hate is an emotion felt only when two people get to know each other or what not.

Also, I did not say that people who do not like Annabeth are terrible. Don't know where you got that from... In fact, I think it's quite interesting when two people discuss why they like/dislike a person. In the end no one person's opinion is superior to the others.

As for the Argo crew going off on their own, yes, I'm aware of that. Putting aside the part where Percy was unconscious, Annabeth's POV gives us some insight on the way she is feeling about things, and that might be vital because it may lead up to more of her in the last book. She may have a role to play, and to suddenly throw in her POV in the last book without it being there in HoH might make things a bit confusing. Whatever, we won't know until the last book comes out


message 476: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko Couldn't of said it better.


message 477: by Neha (last edited Apr 13, 2014 09:59AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha *slow clap* I like it!


message 478: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko That would have taken a lot of thinking and editing for me to type.


message 479: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha IKR!


message 480: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko Sorry for annoying you. I respect your beliefs even though I don't understand them. I just strongly believe that there is no reason to dislike Annabeth, and I apologize if we do not see eye to eye. Agreed?


message 481: by Zanib (last edited Apr 13, 2014 01:27PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Zanib Goldenfalcon101 wrote: "Zanib wrote: "Goldenfalcon101 wrote: "Actually, you can hate someone for no reason.

*Getting all sciencey here*
According to psychologists you can hate someone instantly for no reason. They might..."


Sorry you feel that way. I for one just like going back and forth XD At the end of the day everyone'll see things differently, there's nothing wrong with that. (as for: I'm not sure where you got where I was saying you were saying we were terrible people for disliking Annabeth. Please tell me where I said that.// just look up at the first time you replied to me. I guess you meant to direct your comment elsewhere)

PS. Annabeth disliking Rachel "for no apparent reason"...lol, what was that psychological thing you were saying about it being possible to dislike someone for no reason? But actually there was a reason. It could have been that Annabeth didn't like Rachel because it might have to do with jealousy or maybe Rachel cuts into her pride, what with that being her fatal flaw and all. Ann hating Rachel really makes her a 3 dimensional character. And in any case, she's over it, so I suggest everyone else get over it too XD


message 482: by Natalie (last edited Apr 13, 2014 02:06PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Natalie Annabeth disliking Rachel seems to cement people's assumptions that Annabeth is just kinda a jerk, but I would like to point out that she had multiple reasons to dislike her. First of all, if a random chick showed up with your best friend (who you happen to have a major crush on) right before your first date, would you be thrilled? The answer is pretty obviously no. And if this girl happened to immediately get farther with said best friend in 3 weeks than you did in 3 years, how would that go over? Pretty badly, most likely. And let's not forget that the best friend immediately memorized random girl's number, a pretty clear indication that he had some interest in her. So, despite being best friends for 4 years, you just got blown out of the water by a girl who showed up less than a month ago. (Although that one is, admittedly, at least partially Annabeth's fault for not being upfront about how she felt.) Now, I don't know about anyone else, but I would be a little bit less than hospitable if I was in that situation.

Not to mention the other reasons Annabeth had to dislike Rachel: she hijacked the first quest Annabeth led, she easily succeeded in the things Annabeth failed at, and, to top it off, Annabeth was forced to risk her own butt to save Rachel a couple of times (not to mention Rachel almost getting both her and Percy killed at least once). Also, I think Annabeth may have been jealous that Rachel was a rich mortal who wasn't hunted by monsters constantly. Maybe she thought Rachel was weak (which she isn't, but in comparison to Annabeth, pretty much everyone is). Maybe she was simply jealous. Any which way, in my personal opinion, Annabeth did have some fairly decent reasons to dislike Rachel- although she shouldn't have acted the way she did, she did have her reasons. Just thought I'd put that out there, since Annabeth's dislike of Rachel seemed to be a big issue with a lot of people.

*Just for the record, I actually love Rachel. But I get why Annabeth doesn't like her, and I'm pretty sure if I did this from Rachel's POV, she would have reasons to dislike Annabeth.


Matthew Vanessa wrote: "I don't like her neither! She's pretty cool in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians, but in Heroes of Olympus? Pffffttt... no.
I understand she's getting bigger and I know she's not 12 anymore. But ..."


I think the judo-flip was for comedic effect…


message 484: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Matthew wrote: "Vanessa wrote: "I don't like her neither! She's pretty cool in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians, but in Heroes of Olympus? Pffffttt... no.
I understand she's getting bigger and I know she's not ..."


THANK GOODNESS! SOMEONE UNDERSTOOD!!


message 485: by Rachel (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rachel Jackson Neha (Athena) (Queen Elinor) wrote: "Matthew wrote: "Vanessa wrote: "I don't like her neither! She's pretty cool in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians, but in Heroes of Olympus? Pffffttt... no.
I understand she's getting bigger and I..."


:P people make a big deal out of everything.
I'm just saying if my boyfriend went missing for 8 months and I spent all those 8 months looking for him I'll probably judo flip him too.
Percy didn't mind. He got it why can't you?


message 486: by Zanib (last edited Apr 14, 2014 03:28PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Zanib Rachel wrote: "Neha (Athena) (Queen Elinor) wrote: "Matthew wrote: "Vanessa wrote: "I don't like her neither! She's pretty cool in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians, but in Heroes of Olympus? Pffffttt... no.
I ..."


Right? I'd rather see the judo flip than her getting all mushy...


message 487: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko IKR! That was one of my favorite parts. Percy getting his butt kicked by Annabeth is hilarious!


message 488: by Ananth (new)

Ananth Yeah, Percy and Annabeth already have attached mouths.


message 489: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Goldenfalcon101 wrote: "The point still stands that those are my reasons for disliking Annabeth, other than the fact that her personality just doesn't appeal that much to me anyway.

Unless you see me saying 'Oh yeah, Ann..."


Naah no one's trying to change your opinion..just defensing I guess :P


message 490: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Ananth wrote: "Yeah, Percy and Annabeth already have attached mouths."

Please don't be mean to our OTP Percabeth thankyou very very much.


Christina H. Goldenfalcon, i totally agree with you. I mean the discussion is ok, but it is getting "a bit" annoying when this thread is supposed to be where people who dislike Annabeth share their opinions on her.


message 492: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Goldenfalcon101 wrote: "Neha (Athena) (Queen Elinor) wrote: "Goldenfalcon101 wrote: "The point still stands that those are my reasons for disliking Annabeth, other than the fact that her personality just doesn't appeal th..."

I understand, and Im an Annabeth-admirer. But it's a discussion thread so I guess everyone's got to say something on Annabeth whether they like her or not. Nobody's making it a Annabeth-lover topic, but let's not make it Annabeth-haters unite either. It's a discussion thread, not a gang-maker or something XP


Christina H. @Neha, I understand what your point is, but doesn't the title sort of explain what type of discussion thread this is? Of course it wouldn't be as interesting without the Annabeth-admirers in the thread but still.


message 494: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Uhh..it's just a question if the one who questions is alone in his/her opinion. :P


Blogger Girl The staff of Serapis has a gooood cover!!


message 496: by Ananth (new)

Ananth This is a war. Those who are weak will fail, those who are strong will succeed on this terrifying debate. If you think this is scary, too bad. Deal with it. Do not fail me fellow debaters! This epic argument will go down in the history of the world!

P.S That was supposed to be dramatic, not real.


message 497: by Kamiko (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kamiko Ok, I'd like to see a thread about hating a character NOT attract people who love that character. That's nearly impossible.


Zanib Christina wrote: "Goldenfalcon, i totally agree with you. I mean the discussion is ok, but it is getting "a bit" annoying when this thread is supposed to be where people who dislike Annabeth share their opinions on ..."

This thread is open to anyone and everyone. It's quite unreasonable getting annoyed because people are mingling and sharing their opinions. Loosen up and just enjoy the different perspective. If you state a reason for hating Ann, someone else might try to rebut that reason, but that doesn't mean we expect you to change your opinion. Some of us do it just to give another take on the same situation..


message 499: by sim (new) - rated it 5 stars

sim ^THIS. Thank you. *applauds*


message 500: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha *slow clap* I agree. Keep Calm and discuss in peace *white flag* XD


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