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[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift]

As described

[Becky]

Random:

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift]

aaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

[Mike (the Paladin)]

The unknown pooch!!!!! Quick get an autograph!

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift]

[Chris , cookie guilt]

Holy shit. I'm listening to David Bowie at this exact moment.

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift]

Chris wrote: "Holy shit. I'm listening to David Bowie at this exact moment."

GMTA

[Nyssa]

I has question! What is "YA/MG"? I get Young Adult, but what is the MG?

[Chris , cookie guilt]

Nyssa wrote: "I has question! What is "YA/MG"? I get Young Adult, but what is the MG?"

Middle Grade....

[Nyssa]

Chris wrote: "Nyssa wrote: "I has question! What is "YA/MG"? I get Young Adult, but what is the MG?"

Middle Grade...."

:face palm:

[Mike (the Paladin)]

wonder how much more we can narrow down genres?

[Becky]

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "wonder how much more we can narrow down genres?"

YA/MG/Middle of 3rd grade/ 2nd 3rd of 1st grade/ 1st day of Kindergarten...

I can keep going. ;)

[Nyssa]

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "wonder how much more we can narrow down genres?"

Well Christa mentioned a new one, the other day, thats coming down the pipe: "New Adult"

[Becky]

Ugh. Yeah. I don't wanna talk about it.

[Mike (the Paladin)]

Okay...I'm going now.

[Becky]

New Adult just makes me think of Fifty Shades of Grey. But then, I don't really read romance or erotic type stuff (though I have been known to - it's just not my preference), so I have no interest in 20-somethings having sex. LOL

[Becky]

Aww, I scared Mike off again. I really have to stop doing that. =\

[Becky]

Becky wrote: "New Adult just makes me think of Fifty Shades of Grey. But then, I don't really read romance or erotic type stuff (though I have been known to - it's just not my preference), so I have no interest ..."

So, I say this, and then I download an Audible freebie PNR story. I'm such a hypocrite. *sigh*

[Mike (the Paladin)]

No just intimidated by the idea of books being broken down in two year increments.

I just got Sanderson's youth book from the library Alcatraz Versus the Evil Librarians. Anyone read it?

[Becky]

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "No just intimidated by the idea of books being broken down in two year increments.

I just got Sanderson's youth book from the library Alcatraz Versus the Evil Librarians. Anyone read it?"

I have. I liked it, though I don't think it's anywhere near as good as his usual fare. It was a fun story though. I will read the rest of them at some point.

[Mike (the Paladin)]

I just "stumbled over it" on the library web sight and downloaded it.

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster!]

Becky wrote: "New Adult just makes me think of Fifty Shades of Grey. But then, I don't really read romance or erotic type stuff (though I have been known to - it's just not my preference), so I have no interest ..."

Isn't 50 Shades just adult?

I still don't entirely understand NA, except it's like YA, but with sex.

And, yes, MG is middle grade. Also referred to as juvenile and, at Borders anyway, Independent Reader.

I asked for the combo 'cause a lot of people lump MG books in with YA, and it makes my inner cataloguer cringe. Combining them means I don't have to wade into the "it's nit YA, it's MG" arena, and my anal retentiveness can be assuaged.

'Cause it's all about me, yo. ;)

[Becky]

Colleen wrote: "Isn't 50 Shades just adult?"

It's on the New Adult Listopia... but I don't know if it's correct that it's there.

[Becky]

I don't get NA either, honestly, and I probably shouldn't even comment on it because I don't know anything about it. I just have very negative connotations when the category/genre/whatever is mentioned. LOL

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster!]

All I know I heard in the UF group where people were saying they liked the idea of NA, but were annoyed most books in it are romance.

I got the impression it's kind of currently catering to people who were reading YA romance, but decided they wanted actual sex.

Which is darkly humorous to me, since one of the reasons I often here for adults reading YA romance is to get away from the graphic sex.

[Nyssa]

I think they messed the original naming system, but of course can't go back.
NA should technically be Young Adult, and YA should just be Teen. MG covers pre-teens and tweens (a term I still don't quite understand, but that my 13 year old likes to use).

[[deleted user]]

I find New Adult a very patronising category myself. Then again, I feel the same way about Young Adult marketing -- at that age you have to read regular 'adult' titles for school, so why the hell wouldn't you be considered mature enough to read them for leisure? When I was a kid, the book shops had two age categories -- kids & teens, and adult. Although I've continued reading kids & teens books all my life, because many of them are very good, I wandered into the adult section of the book shop at age nine and never left. Somehow I survived it.

...ahem. Sorry. Pet peeve took over. :)

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift]

NA became a thing because these romance authors were writing serious sex filled books for barely adults and mostly teens (a la Twilight). The bigger ones got push back because almost all of the books featured an abusive(like) hero (a la Twilight). So "new adult" was coined. And people like that chick that wrote Beautiful Disaster removed their YA tag (which they originally added themselves cause YA was selling like hotcakes) and cried "we're new adult!"

There are a few NA authors who have written actual gems in the field - but as I am disgusted by most of that kind of angst I still avoid. The books that have turned into gems have dealt with sex, etc but more so focused on themes like "who am I?" and those kinds of angsty questions that young adults have to answer as they leave home and venture out into the world.

[Becky]

MrsJ - that just about covers it. It's not so much the SEX that bothers me, it's the relationship dynamics that I seem to see over and over: Hot "bad boy" (read: abusive asshole) for some inexplicable reason falls for the doesn't-know-she's-beautiful doormat, and then "loves" her so much that he can't let her out of his sight for 2.3 seconds without turning into a jealously insecure abusive asshole.

I stopped reading a lot of YA because so much of it is just... formulaic crap lately. I won't even go near NA. I have no desire to be constantly pissed off at the stupidity of what i'm reading. LOL

[Becky]

I'm hoping that the YA books we choose here will be great. Colleen's got high standards. :D

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster!]

Becky wrote: "I'm hoping that the YA books we choose here will be great. Colleen's got high standards. :D"

OMG, the pressure!

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon, Not a book hipster!]

Nyssa wrote: "I think they messed the original naming system, but of course can't go back.
NA should technically be Young Adult, and YA should just be Teen. MG covers pre-teens and tweens (a term I still don't q..."

Well, my library classifies YA as Teens, so I guess they agree with you. ;)

[[deleted user]]

Yeah, I don't have a problem with teens/barely adults reading sex-filled books. It's nothing their imaginations aren't doing anyway. Most people vastly overestimate the 'innocence' of youth. And a lot of the classics that you have to read for school are totally sex-filled. LOL. Well, on some educational curriculums anyway.

This is why I hate NA/YA as a marketing category. It seems designed to pander to people who want young men and women who should be reading everything to be reading what's 'age-appropriate'. It doesn't meet an actual need from the children themselves, who could and should just be freely mixing kids and teens fiction with regular adult fiction the way that those of us who grew up before the YA phenomenon did, and the way that school will require them to do anyway.

(Don't get me wrong, my pet peeve is purely with YA/NA as a marketing ploy, not with the books themselves. I'm in my late twenties and enjoy fiction written with kids and teens in mind just as much as I did when I was one -- probably more. :D)

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift]

I don't have a problem with the sex but I do have a problem with the relationships - and I don't think that should be marketed toward young kids. If they find it themselves is completely different.

I've seen that kind of relationship between teens(NAs?) in high school. Bad boy and doormat. It was horrible to watch and I hate that it's being promoted and cool or sexy or "romantic."

[Felina]

MrsJoseph (taking back my data & giving GR the middle finger) wrote: "I've seen that kind of relationship between teens(NAs?) in high school. Bad boy and doormat. It was horrible to watch and I hate that it's being promoted and cool or sexy or "romantic."

I completely agree. I know girls who buy into that crap. The whole 'he's being mean and distant so that means he really likes me, right?' crap. And even if that were true, that the guy really liked them, who wants to date someone like that?

[[deleted user]]

MrsJoseph (taking back my data & giving GR the middle finger) wrote: "I don't have a problem with the sex but I do have a problem with the relationships - and I don't think that should be marketed toward young kids. If they find it themselves is completely different..."

Yes, I think it'd be better if that sort of stuff was just marketed under regular adult fiction like it used to be, and if kids find it, well fair enough.

Of course, since I absolutely hate all of this bad boy/'alpha male' and women-as-doormats stuff, I'd love to see healthier relationships depicted more frequently in fiction marketed at every age.

Or rather, I would like to see people who write about dysfunctional relationships actually include the recognition that they are dysfunctional, rather than glorifying them and painting them as romantic.

But that's a rant for another day, and I know I'm preaching to the choir. :)

[Mike (the Paladin)]

You know the whole "bad boy" paradigm bugs a lot of men to (me included). That's especially true if we've had to deal with the fall out involving someone we care about.

On the plus side sometimes you get the chance kick a "bad boy's" a**.

[MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift]

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "You know the whole "bad boy" paradigm bugs a lot of men to (me included). That's especially true if we've had to deal with the fall out involving someone we care about.

On the plus side sometimes ..."

*nods* every cloud...

[Felina]

What's everybody doing this evening? I'm just watching Drag Race and Face Off with my SIL. I keep checking in but this place is a ghost town.

[Allison]

I'm switching between Scandal reruns on Netflix and reading chapters of The Partly Cloudy Patriot by Sarah Vowell.

[Nyssa]

Allison (The Allure of Books) wrote: "I'm switching between Scandal reruns on Netflix and reading chapters of The Partly Cloudy Patriot by Sarah Vowell."

My mom and auntie just discovered Scandal (via Netflix) yesterday... they are about to start episode 16 of the second season . I haven't watched the show yet, and if its that addictive, I don't think I will until next summer when i don't have work during the week! LOL

[Chris , cookie guilt]

We went to eat seafood. God, I'm stuffed....

Catfish, scallops, shrimp, stuffed crab, hush puppies, baked potato, and fried pickles. And a cup of gumbo.

That was just my plate...hehe

[Christa]

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "You know the whole "bad boy" paradigm bugs a lot of men to (me included). That's especially true if we've had to deal with the fall out involving someone we care about.

On the plus side sometimes ..."

I think the problem is the confusion between "bad boy" and "bad person of the male gender". I've dated "bad boys" and none of them were dangerous, mean or disrespectful to me. They were more about giving the finger to societal conventions, not being afraid to be a badass when the situation called for it, and possibly wearing a leather jacket when it might be a tad to warm out. (The last bit attracts me, I admit.)

See, this is what happens when the music scene moves away from Hair Bands. When we had Hair Bands, we knew what bad boys were. Also, this is what happens when YA authors try to give their readers what they want, which is not possible because most of them have no idea what they want! It isn't their fault, they haven't lived enough yet, but that can NOT be helped by giving them male protags that give men a bad name.

If I look back at my mid- to late-teens and think about the kind of guy I wanted back then, something interesting happens - I realize that I wanted pretty much the same kind of guy I do now (well, a slightly older version of him now) but how I would have described him then would have been completely different. Back then, my hormone-addled brain could not have properly described the difference between a strong man who knows what he wants, and a bully. But now I definitely can, and these authors should be able to do so. So why the F don't they???

Felina wrote: "What's everybody doing this evening? I'm just watching Drag Race and Face Off with my SIL. I keep checking in but this place is a ghost town."

Now that I'm done soapboxing about bad boys, I'll be playing Mass Effect 2.

[Emily]

We are in Dallas and have been iced in for over 48 hours now! My husband was traveling for work and got stuck so it was just my three year old and me, and for part of the time we had no power. He's finally home now thankfully and I need a beer! :)

[Mike (the Paladin)]

Hang in there. I live in Nashville and I know that here in the south ice shuts us down as we don't have the equipment and so on. I had the sermon tomorrow morning but just got word that they've called off services because of a weather advisory.

I'll save the sermon as an emergency one.

[Nyssa]

Big Fish is having a 50% off sale this weekend. I took advantage of it (purchasing 4 games for $5 each) and have been switching back and forth between those and a few I purchased in the past. I'm a sucker for Time Management and Hidden Object games..especially ones that also let me "build", "restore", or "decorate" something.

I've been tempted to become a member, but my husband really hates the subscription idea, and doesn't think I'll get my money's worth. He's probably right..*shrug*

[[deleted user]]

I've been marathoning through Babylon 5 at the recommendation of someone dear to me. I'm a little over halfway through season one and was starting to get really into it... of course, then I fell asleep. :)

Now it's 4 AM and I'm too awake to go back to sleep, and too tired to do much.

[Kathy]

Felina wrote: "What's everybody doing this evening? I'm just watching Drag Race and Face Off with my SIL. I keep checking in but this place is a ghost town."

I've been reading and watching a Big Bang Theory marathon.

[Mike (the Paladin)]

I liked Bab 5. Hope you like it.

[Emily]

I love the Big Fish Games as well! Find any good ones on sale?