The House of Hades
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NICO… YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT O.o
Drew wrote: "Blogger wrote: "Natasha wrote: "Drew wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Niecy wrote: "Do u like percy jackson"I would not have been in the thread if i didn't read the book and i would not have read this much ..."
Me too! I was around the same age when I started, and now Im 15. My sister started reading them now and she's 9.
Q_Q Can you guys please quote properly the two posts above me is crazy hard to know what you're talking about without going back 6 pages(sarcasm but i have to read backwards), if when i use my tablet i can quote(copy paste) you guys can do the same.
Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "Huh?"You guys are doing quotes of quotes of quotes, when you read your post you have to go back to see what you were talking about or replying to in the first place.
I realized that Nico was gay in the current book but never would have realized it from the other books. I think it works really well in the story and I hope the author finds someone for him though.
Drew wrote: "Blogger wrote: "Natasha wrote: "Drew wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Niecy wrote: "Do u like percy jackson"I would not have been in the thread if i didn't read the book and i would not have read this much ..."
Kids shouldn't give a damn about? I see....
Blogger wrote: "Drew wrote: "Blogger wrote: "Natasha wrote: "Drew wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Niecy wrote: "Do u like percy jackson"I would not have been in the thread if i didn't read the book and i would not have re..."
Well thats how I feel. Since when is it their business in the first place? Would you rather kids run around and slander gays more than they already do? Well in that case I also see.....
Yes Drew. Why? because things have to get harder to move forward. So what if other kids bully them? it just makes them stronger. How else did the Civil Rights movement work. As they always say, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
Blogger wrote: "Yes Drew. Why? because things have to get harder to move forward. So what if other kids bully them? it just makes them stronger. How else did the Civil Rights movement work. As they always say, wha..."yeah..................... well I guess you've had such a perfect little childhood then huh? Ever had others think your crap? I suppose you'll tell all the kids who killed themselves that they should have been stronger and sucked it up? Thats pretty sad bro.
Really? Because it's not that sad. It's sad that people commit suicide but there are children in Asia, Africa and South America who suffer from poverty every single day but you don't see them committing suicide. Btw my childhood was far from perfect nor was it sheltered. Not that I like people committing suicide but they need to be stronger and know that no one should have a say of their life. If that makes sense
Drew wrote: "So why even bring this up? It adds no value to the book for me and exposes things to kids about society they shouldn't give a damn about. frankly I don't see the point of it... So what if you live different? As far as I'm concerned people have a choice between life styles."Well, Rick is saying that it's okay to be gay, so I don't see how it would lead to kids slandering gay people. That would only happen if someone else negatively influenced their beliefs, which Rick isn't doing. It's better than kids growing up in ignorance of real life things and being confused when they one day meet a gay person!!!
And again, we don't know how necessary this is until Blood of Olympus comes out. If it still has no relevance to the plot, then imo it would make more sense to complain about it then. (also character development, anyone???)
Totally agree with you. But really, does nico being gay really have to give to the story? I mean, does someone being straight give to the story? (well yeah in a romance novel but that's not the point) I just don't see why it's such a big deal. So what? He likes guys. I just don't get it.
Blogger wrote: "Really? Because it's not that sad. It's sad that people commit suicide but there are children in Asia, Africa and South America who suffer from poverty every single day but you don't see them commi..."Im sorry, I can see where your coming from but that just seems a little too much. My cousin was gay and put a gun in his mouth... sooo ummm yeah
That's so sad. Sorry about your cousin, Drew.
Blogger wrote: "Really? Because it's not that sad. It's sad that people commit suicide but there are children in Asia, Africa and South America who suffer from poverty every single day but you don't see them committing suicide. Btw my childhood was far from perfect nor was it sheltered. Not that I like people committing suicide but they need to be stronger and know that no one should have a say of their life. If that makes sense "Although I am in no way trying to diminish the struggles the people in Africa go through, like poverty, etc, I really disagree with that. Just because someone else has it worse doesn't mean you're not allowed to feel sad or hurt because of something you have. That's like saying that you're not allowed to be happy because someone else has it better. I'm not saying they should commit suicide (because no one should, and I'm sorry about your cousin Drew), I'm just saying that someone else's hardships in no way correlate to your own, even if they have it worse. A problem is a problem, no matter the severity. You don't tell a depressed person to suck it up. Their problem is as much as a problem.
Okay, all I'm saying is this: Nico had no issues talking with Percy before HoH. The way I saw it, this was a last minute "quick, I'm being asked to mention something about homosexuals in my book, um, um, okay great, Nico will be gay."
My personal stance on homosexuality is irrelevant at the moment. What is relevant is this ridiculous and idiotic manipulative idea that there absolutely must be a homosexual character in every series now, otherwise the author must be homophobic. I think it says a lot about the intolerance of those who advocate for 'tolerance' that they seem to require authors, filmmakers, and the like to include gay characters or ideologies. No one requires that there be someone who's Muslim in a film or someone who's Christian in a book. So why the special treatment?
Those are just my thoughts. I think it's obvious that Nico was never gay to begin with - and since when did he not like Annabeth? I mean, hello! Um, what? *sigh* Anyways, yes. This seemed very... last-minute, not thought through well, and totally bizarre. Was there a gay character in the original PJ series? Nope. So why the sudden homosexual implementation? Well I wonder... I doubt RR suddenly became a hardcore gay rights activist. There's something else going on here. I've seen it in other books (Prodigy [Legend #2] by Marie Lu - homosexual character, totally thrown in out of left field, no previous clues, in fact he was practically drooling over the main female character in the first book). *sigh* This frustrates me. Political controversy shouldn't require anything of literature. Just let writers write for goodness sakes!
Okay, now I'm done.
My personal stance on homosexuality is irrelevant at the moment. What is relevant is this ridiculous and idiotic manipulative idea that there absolutely must be a homosexual character in every series now, otherwise the author must be homophobic. I think it says a lot about the intolerance of those who advocate for 'tolerance' that they seem to require authors, filmmakers, and the like to include gay characters or ideologies. No one requires that there be someone who's Muslim in a film or someone who's Christian in a book. So why the special treatment?
Those are just my thoughts. I think it's obvious that Nico was never gay to begin with - and since when did he not like Annabeth? I mean, hello! Um, what? *sigh* Anyways, yes. This seemed very... last-minute, not thought through well, and totally bizarre. Was there a gay character in the original PJ series? Nope. So why the sudden homosexual implementation? Well I wonder... I doubt RR suddenly became a hardcore gay rights activist. There's something else going on here. I've seen it in other books (Prodigy [Legend #2] by Marie Lu - homosexual character, totally thrown in out of left field, no previous clues, in fact he was practically drooling over the main female character in the first book). *sigh* This frustrates me. Political controversy shouldn't require anything of literature. Just let writers write for goodness sakes!
Okay, now I'm done.
Cecerose wrote: "Blogger wrote: "Really? Because it's not that sad. It's sad that people commit suicide but there are children in Asia, Africa and South America who suffer from poverty every single day but you don'..."100% behind that. And thank you both
Lia wrote: "Okay, all I'm saying is this: Nico had no issues talking with Percy before HoH. The way I saw it, this was a last minute "quick, I'm being asked to mention something about homosexuals in my book, u..."Lol. No one (that I know of) ever said Rick was homophobic before writing House of Hades. And I don't see why it's /bizarre/ that authors would implement a gay character? (if you think Nico doesn't match the other books, that's fine, as it's your opinion, even if I disagree). I don't see how it's different than real life. What exactly is a "sudden homosexual implementation"? The fact that a gay character even exists? Why are people even separating books with and without gay characters? I don't get why it isn't natural just because there wasn't one before. There isn't perpetually a gay person in the vicinity, and vice versa.
You don't have to be a hardcore gay rights activist to want to write a gay character and like you said, just because you don't write a gay character doesn't mean you're homophobic / weren't as much as an "activist" or whatever before. Plus, the gay rights movement is a lot more than just political controversy.
And just a thought...maybe...just maybe...Rick did it completely of his own will? Maybe he wanted to write about it.
Kevin wrote: "Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "Huh?"You guys are doing quotes of quotes of quotes, when you read your post you have to go back to see what you were talking about or replying to in the first place."
Sorry, Kevin! Haha. I honestly didn't even realize it didn't have the entire thing... I wasn't paying attention to that, I just hit "reply."
Sorry
Personally, I don't think we're going to convince anyone to see things in a different way than we already do, no matter what opinion we have, so what's the point in arguing about it?
Kevin wrote: "Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "Huh?"You guys are doing quotes of quotes of quotes, when you read your post you have to go back to see what you were talking about or replying to in the first place."
Oooooh
Drew wrote: "Blogger wrote: "Really? Because it's not that sad. It's sad that people commit suicide but there are children in Asia, Africa and South America who suffer from poverty every single day but you don'...":/
Natasha wrote: "Personally, I don't think we're going to convince anyone to see things in a different way than we already do, no matter what opinion we have, so what's the point in arguing about it?"Idk man, I just see it as discussion. I'm not really trying to get people to agree with me, but rather understand where I'm coming from, or provide different viewpoints, you know? They don't have to necessarily agree with me.
@lia I too, thought this was pandering it didn't match with the book at all, when that whole scene started(landing on the island) the story went haywire(more than usual)
Cecerose wrote: "Blogger wrote: "Really? Because it's not that sad. It's sad that people commit suicide but there are children in Asia, Africa and South America who suffer from poverty every single day but you don'..."True but what i meant was that these people suffer but they don't try to end their lives because they believe it can get better. So why doesn't it apply to the ones that are bullied? I mean Middle school and High school are hell but you probably won't see those people again so i think it's essential to have hope. And i do know how it feels to be bullied so the solution to kill yourself hurts your family and other people too. It's not just a way to escape. Does that mean i don't hate the petty kids that think bullying is okay? I do and i find it dumb to intentionally hurt someone else but the only way to solve the problem is to be stronger. Killing yourself just gives the other person (bullyers) satisfaction in that they could control your life that much.
Aurora wrote: "I don't think that Nico is gay as in he wants to be in a sexual relationship with Percy. That totally doesn't fit Nico's character to me at all. I think it's more fitting that Nico would have roman..."Someone spoiled it for me too, and at first i was confused but then I realized Nico has pretty much followed and admired Percy throughout the books and it kinda makes sense. I think Rick was right with his decision since it goes against the stereotypical guy & girl relationships. So all in all, GOOD JOB RICK! :D
I have no problems with gay characters, but I feel like Riordan just threw that characteristic in there. I mean, there was this build-up that it was some huge, deep, dark secret, and then that was it. I feel like it was unnecessary to just throw that in there abruptly and feel like it could have been presented better with all the build-up.
Blogger wrote: "the solution to kill yourself hurts your family and other people too..."Sooooo are you saying, that they must continue to suffer so their family and "others" can feel happy about themselves? That is extremely selfish.
Unless you have kids no one should give you flack for wanting the pain to end, they don't know what that person is going through and talking bs like "it will make you stronger" is retarded.
People are fighting for gay rights, why isn't anyone fighting to make suicide legal? They stuff you up with pills and pat themselves on their back that they've treated someone else while you still have the pain.
Blogger wrote: "True but what i meant was that these people suffer but they don't try to end their lives because they believe it can get better. So why doesn't it apply to the ones that are bullied? I mean Middle school and High school are hell but you probably won't see those people again so i think it's essential to have hope. And i do know how it feels to be bullied so the solution to kill yourself hurts your family and other people too. It's not just a way to escape. Does that mean i don't hate the petty kids that think bullying is okay? I do and i find it dumb to intentionally hurt someone else but the only way to solve the problem is to be stronger. Killing yourself just gives the other person (bullyers) satisfaction in that they could control your life that much. "I totally get where you're coming from, and to be clear, I am NOT saying that people should suicide if it gets too hard (please don't suicide), I am simply saying that their feelings of isolation or despair are all legitimate, and you shouldn't compare their situations to others. It just really isn't as easy as you make it sound. You can't just decide to be stronger or just bear through it. (although that would be ideal).
I just don't think it's okay to shame those people who have suicidal thoughts because they couldn't be stronger. The argument that other people have it worse also makes the person who already may be sad about something, guilty for being sad about what they are sad about, even when their feelings are completely valid. Some people are in such a dark place, and it's really not helpful to tell them to just get stronger. You can't exactly wake up one day and be stronger. It takes a massive amount of courage. Suicidal thoughts are more than just a product of being "weak", sometimes, not even that.
But I agree with you that yes, hope is essential. Because it will get better. (sooner or later. hopefully sooner.)
I dunno. Will you rather have one of your family members or friends commit suicide? I'm betting you wouldn't. I mean I guess that's better than them being alive isn't it? *shrugs* I don't see any solutions to this so if they want to kill themselves so be it. There's nothing anyone can do anyway because it's up to them in the long run. And why don't YOU fight to make genocide legal?
I think Im done with this thread....
....I just said that I DON'T want people to commit suicide. What I have a problem with is the fact that you're saying that it's okay to tell them to suck it up because other people have it worse or to just try and get stronger. Obviously, I would rather no one commit suicide, but for people with suicidal thoughts, instead of trying to invalidate their feelings because of other people, try instead to not make them feel guilty for their own feelings.
yeah this is too depressing....... so moving on to a different topic
Cecerose wrote: "....I just said that I DON'T want people to commit suicide. What I have a problem with is the fact that you're saying that it's okay to tell them to suck it up because other people have it worse ..."
*sighs* well there's no other solution. They could suck it up and move on hoping for a better life or...they could commit suicide. In any rate I'm too tired talking about this because the will be no real solution except to stop bullying others in the first place which is not going to end any time soon cause some people are dumb
Yeah man!!!!Nico's twist was sooooo perfect! it made perfect sense.Mr. Riordan is a genius.Now that i think about it there were clues regarding this all along in every book he wrote!you rock sir.If you couldnt guess that was sarcasm,just to mock those who were claiming that this was an attempt to improve our society and all that stuff.come on guys grow up! For the twist itself i didnt care.i didnt jump up in excitement nor did i burn the book.but crying wolf or hailing him a hero and putting forward dumb arguments like 'you werent disturbed when there were straights in this book' or "he has always tried yo give diversity' are too petty justifications.
There was no need. None. There were no "hints" it was coming. Not until this book. If it we're for the fact that I want to know the ending and I have been reading these for years now, I would have threw the book out and never gotten any others again.
Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "There was no need. None. There were no "hints" it was coming. Not until this book. If it we're for the fact that I want to know the ending and I have been reading these for years now, I would have ..."that was the whole point.it completely came out of the blue.compare these books to his older ones and you will realize the entire series as such is much paler in comparison to his other two works.but my point is people need to understand that this is just a book and not drag there liberal or conservative beliefs in this discussion
Manofaction wrote: "Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "There was no need. None. There were no "hints" it was coming. Not until this book. If it we're for the fact that I want to know the ending and I have been reading these f..."Yea but there's a lot of hypocrites who are "allowed" to say they thought it was great, while you can't say nothing if you disagree, cause, well then you're "wrong".
Blogger wrote: "I mean I guess that's better than them being alive isn't it? ..."If the person has kids they have responsibility, they have people depending on them. Not saying parents should do it, but you sound as though you don't care about that person's feelings you just want them here.
Blogger wrote: "And why don't YOU fight to make genocide legal?
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For someone on book website it's sad that you don't know the difference between genocide and suicide.
(view spoiler)
Manofaction wrote: "If you couldnt guess that was sarcasm,just to mock those who were claiming that this was an attempt to improve our society and all that stuff.come on guys grow up! For the twist itself i didnt care.i didnt jump up in excitement nor did i burn the book.but crying wolf or hailing him a hero and putting forward dumb arguments like 'you werent disturbed when there were straights in this book' or "he has always tried yo give diversity' are too petty justifications...."A lot of the people saying those things are 16 and below(please the person who called me an ageist don't come -_-), i don't know if they are sheltered to an extent but this was pure pandering and as i said before people will claim that they saw it in his older books.
I'm sorry people but I think it's time to MOVE ON.... People like Kevin have been here the entire time talking about how unnecessary this was. They can't take other opinions from anybody and Kevin here even disregards others viewpoints based on age. "A lot of people saying those things are 16 and below" And?? Besides the fact that I am 20, I really don't see why that matters. Cecerose is 16 and she always writes very well thought out and intelligent responses. Avalon, blogger, and H99 may be very young, but they are also just as entitled to their opinion as you and their age doesn't change that fact or make their opinions void or wrong. We get it, you think it's pandering! Just because you are older than everybody else doesn't make your opinion more intelligent or correct. Maybe it's time to build a bridge and get over it? Nico is gay. Regardless of the reason (Which I'd like to point out AGAIN that you don't know any more than the rest of us) he is going to damn well stay that way. If you're going to treat other commenters like idiots because of age then that shows that you're the only intellectually immature one here.
Cherie wrote: "I'm sorry people but I think it's time to MOVE ON.... People like Kevin have been here the entire time talking about how unnecessary this was. They can't take other opinions from anybody and Kevin ..."people who have been on this for a long time (you included)ought to find other things to discuss i agree with you there.internet discussions are such that nobody wins so just state your opinion and move ahead,i agree.but the thing is new guys will keep on coming and posting things you might have read before,hence the feeling of a cyclic repetition.i also see you only have named those with whom you seem to be agreeing your list which means you are just endorsing your views again arent you?some guys who didnt like it also raised some valid points but got completely ignored.
also if my first comment seemed distasteful then i am sorry i didnt want to belittle anyone (though that doesnt justify you singling out one commentator)
Lia wrote: "Okay, all I'm saying is this: Nico had no issues talking with Percy before HoH. The way I saw it, this was a last minute "quick, I'm being asked to mention something about homosexuals in my book, u..."well said
Jαṡṃïṉε wrote: "Not reading the last book because of Nico's little "episode". This is inappropriate, and I will have nothing to do with an author who supports gay rights. This is violating, and horrifying."dont be a dick hes still a badass charecter his feeling wont get in the way of his fighting so just shut the hell up and wait for the next book k :/
p.s if u thnk im gay im not
Kevin wrote: "Blogger wrote: "I mean I guess that's better than them being alive isn't it? ..."If the person has kids they have responsibility, they have people depending on them. Not saying parents should do ..."
Kevin you seem to assume i know nothing which is very wrong. does that mean i know everything? no but you shouldn't assume you're right just because you are older. That said Suicide is a sad thing and i shouldn't have depicted it as some shallow problem
Manofaction wrote: "Cherie wrote: "I'm sorry people but I think it's time to MOVE ON.... People like Kevin have been here the entire time talking about how unnecessary this was. They can't take other opinions from any..."If you would read my comment over you would see that I was mostly referring to Kevin, who has been here for a very long duration of the thread. I agree that new people come along, they state their opinion and then everybody else responds (either countering or agreeing)... That's how it's been. Usually these people either move on after they state their opinion or they stay to discuss other random things. I don't honestly care, but for the people who stay to keep making negative comments regarding Rick's choice to make Nico gay... I gotta ask, why? Why don't you just move on? It's not going to change anything, at the end of the day no matter how much you claim it was "out of the blue" it still happened. It is in ink, has been distributed to thousands of people and it is now official. I really don't care what people's opinions on it are, I can accept if you thought it was out of the blue, so did I. What I can't wrap my mind around are the people who have to insult other people's opinions or the people (we haven't gotten much of them recently) who spew hate and intolerance towards gays. Furthermore, regarding the girls I mentioned, Kevin stated "A lot of the people saying those things are 16 and below" He is directly referring to the people who are saying that they saw hints to Nico's sexuality in past books, as if their age is an indication of the validity of their opinions. I responded by mentioning some commenters who are 16 and under, whose opinions are just as valid. I mentioned them for the sole reason that I am aware of them and their ages. Last time I checked we all interpret things differently and I have known several people who have indeed predicted this long before HoH. The age of a commenter shouldn't even come up to make your case in an argument, if it has to then you don't actually have a case besides, "I'm older, I'm right... talk to me in a few years". What irritates me are the people making assumptions and claiming them as fact and treating anybody that thinks otherwise as childish. NONE OF US KNOW why Rick did this. We all have our opinions! and I've said this several times already. Maybe Rick did it on a whim, maybe he just wanted a gay character to increase diversity (in this book I don't see that being a problem, as diverse characters are kinda a big theme of the book), maybe he actually sat down and thought about Nico's character and made this choice after consideration, maybe maybe maybe! Just because he didn't plan it doesn't mean it's pandering...
My main point is not to say "oh I'm right, you're wrong" My comments are always explaining my opinion and why I feel that way. I've just noticed that many people who post these negative comments (and who keep coming back to reiterate the same thing over and over) tend to treat their opinions like fact and treat other people like idiots if they don't agree.
Blogger wrote: "Kevin wrote: "no but you shouldn't assume you're right just because you are older..."Where in the post you quoted did i say i knew everything because i'm older? Where in the post did i say anything pertaining to my age at all?
I think you are the one assuming.
Wow this is long.....Cherie wrote: " I gotta ask, why? Why don't you just move on? It's not going to change anything, at the end of the day..."
You are still here and until a few post back you used to try and convince anyone with a not supporting Nico's change of character to your way of thing, so you can stay once you agree with Rick?
Cherie wrote: " What I can't wrap my mind around are the people who have to insult other people's opinions..."
You did just this, when that mother said she didn't want her daughter exposed to this just yet, in sum you were saying that her opinion on when she should expose her daughter to this is flawed and i see that as an insult.
Cherie wrote: " I really don't care what people's opinions on it are, I can accept if you thought it was out of the blue, so did I...."
You quoted a bunch of text from Rick's blog earlier to show how it wasn't "out of the blue" and how Rick thought this was how Nico's character developed.
Cherie wrote: " we haven't gotten much of them recently) who spew hate and intolerance towards gays..."
Some people just stated their views it wasn't even offence but they got torn up by people for it.
Cherie wrote: "Kevin stated "A lot of the people saying those things are 16 and below" He is directly referring to the people who are saying that they saw hints to Nico's sexuality in past books, as if their age is an indication of the validity of their opinions..."
Yes, i was referring to their age and how they used what Rick said in this book and not what was in the others to justify Nico being gay and no i am not saying "because I'm older I know better"(maybe you are projecting a bit there), there are 12 year olds who are smarter than me and you somewhere in the world at this moment. All i was saying is at a young age you are trusting and believe(not everything blindly but somethings) things you are told. I'm very, very cynical and I will not just trust what Rick said in this book to match up what was described before but a lot of people are "filling in the blanks" and saying "oh that's why he behaved like that" not thinking for themselves saying "that doesn't match up" maybe they just want Nico to be gay or have a gay character in the book so they wouldn't question it. I on the other hand will, Rick is human he wants more money, if pandering to the LGBT movement will give him more followers and people to defend what he writes(no matter what) he will do it.
Cherie wrote: " What irritates me are the people making assumptions and claiming them as fact and treating anybody that thinks otherwise as childish..."
You were doing just this earlier in the thread, or how you phrased your statement made it seem to be implied as fact.
Cherie wrote: "NONE OF US KNOW why Rick did this. We all have our opinions! ..."
You were stating earlier, that it was for equality of everyone and how you wrote it, it was plain to see you thought it was fact and not opinion, when i brought it up to you a bunch of times you quoted Rick's FAQ and how he said he was writing for equality.
Cherie wrote: "Maybe Rick did it on a whim, maybe he just wanted a gay character to increase diversity..."
"On a whim" and "out of the blue" are the same thing and 20+ pages back when i said this you disagreed.
Cherie wrote: "Just because he didn't plan it doesn't mean it's pandering..."
Putting in a section of story that throw the whole cohesion of the story out of wack and keeping it there(after you've proof read 100 times) is indeed pandering, he wanted this in his book but couldn't find another way of putting it in or he decided to put it in too late and couldn't close the plot holes, either way, it's pandering.
Cherie wrote: ". I've just noticed that many people who post these negative comments (and who keep coming back to reiterate the same thing over and over) tend to treat their opinions like fact and treat other people like idiots if they don't agree...."
Is this suppose to be a(not so) subtle hint at me?, I come back and post when people have the same opinion as me, that he pandered, since when is saying someone pandered a negative comment? I didn't say "he shouldn't put gays in his book" and to "keep it out" all i said was that it was not well done, not well thought out and seemed crudely "slipped in on the fly" hence why the cohesion is off. Now that i think of it, seeing as the series is ending he is probably trying to slip in all the different things he can think of so his "diversity" statement would stand up in the future.
I mean if the series ended and years later someone said their wasn't a gay character Rick would find himself in hot water for claiming "diversity" when he did just the opposite.
Cherie wrote: "People like Kevin have been here the entire time talking about how unnecessary this was. They can't take other opinions from anybody ..."
You should take your own advice, I listen to what people say and think on it but most people that i saw posting here have blinders on, they are the "with us or against us" mentality. The regular posters like Avalon, blogger, and H99, Paige, etc can accept and share opinions like me they are just continuing the books and like me they(most of them i think) said that the books are falling in quality.
Of course Cherie i know you are not going to read this, it was said a bunch of times in the older pages(you even said that you don't read my comments) that you don't really care for what i have to say, yet you will quote me on something and take it completely out of context because you didn't read the older comments.
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I would not have been in the thread if i didn't read the book and i would not have read this much simplistic writi..."
By no means am I "distressing" over this. Im just saying I don't feel like its entirely necessary, what does it add to the story? I was 10 when i began reading these books(i'm 15 now) and now my little brother is 11. Last year I heard him ask my mom what gay even meant. So why even bring this up? It adds no value to the book for me and exposes things to kids about society they shouldn't give a damn about. frankly I don't see the point of it... So what if you live different? As far as I'm concerned people have a choice between life styles.
As for you Natasha, I eat my words, I have no hard core reasons for it being an adult matter, and I understand that kids go through it too. If anything I suppose I just find it an unnecessary topic for everyone. Who are we to look down on and judge others? So basically I feel like it just shouldn't be brought up by anyone and left alone by alllllll people.
And damnit, if anyone thinks I'm a gay hater because of this let me argue my frickin case here....