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message 2301: by Tasha (new)

Tasha Rusalksa, that is such a funny story! haha!!


message 2302: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59889 comments Rusalka wrote: "As to if any one gets caught, I know some friends who have had parents nearly get caught by it. But they must be rare. "

I suspect that these scams are very successful. Otherwise, why continue the scam? You'd think if it was rare that they had victims, they'd stop or switch to a new one. This Windows error scam has been running for at least 6 months if not longer.

Same thing the online dating scams. I know of a couple people who lost money to them. I quit with the online dating sites because the vast majority of contacts were scammers.

@Tasha - it's not likely that the anti-fraud unit will do anything more than add my complaint to their database. They're not going to investigate unless there's been a significant victimization. I just hope that adding my situation to the database will help in some way.


message 2303: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59889 comments Happy Thanksgiving to those celebrating today.


message 2304: by Joan (new)

Joan Stephanie, nice to hear that Blake behaved well in the face of provocation.


message 2305: by Brenda (new)

Brenda Klaassen (librarymom23) Janice wrote: "Happy Thanksgiving to those celebrating today."

Happy Thanksgiving to you Janice. I hope everyone had a great day!


message 2306: by Bella (new)

Bella | 502 comments Hope everyone who celebrates it had a Happy Thanksgiving. We're not celebrating it until Monday- my husband is working through the weekend. (Tuesday-Sunday) He's getting 2 1/2 times pay on Thanksgiving and on Family Day (the Friday after) and how could he turn that down. It turned out to be fortunate timing. With the weather turning cold so suddenly, I'm too sick to do much.


message 2307: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments Janice wrote: "This Windows error scam has been running for at least 6 months if not longer. "

For 4 years at least here in Aus. We haven't had a home phone for 3 years, and we were getting calls for a while on the landline.


message 2308: by Lynda (new)

Lynda | 836 comments I hope everyone who celebrated Thanksgiving had a wonderful day, and if you braved the shopping today, you're a better (wo)man than I! I thoroughly enjoyed playing with my nieces, though little Amira doesn't know what to think of me, yet - she's only 18 months.


message 2309: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11260 comments We had a great dinner at home with some friends. No black Friday for us... no way...


message 2310: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59889 comments Lynda wrote: "...and if you braved the shopping today, you're a better (wo)man than I!"

I had lunch with a friend today who gave me birthday present part 1. (I told her there had better not be a part 2 or 3.) She said there are all sorts of Black Friday sales, so gave me a gift card. Now I have to go shopping. *sigh* There used to be a time when I like shopping.


message 2311: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments There is a time and a place for shopping. Your Black Friday thingy sounds like our Boxing Day sales, but more insane. That is definitely not the time to for shopping. You couldn't pay me to go near the shops on Boxing Day.


message 2312: by Lilisa (new)

Lilisa | 2770 comments There also a time and place for having more pecan pie and vanilla ice cream - and the time and place was here and now! Looove pecan pie - yum!


message 2313: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments Lilisa wrote: "There also a time and place for having more pecan pie and vanilla ice cream - and the time and place was here and now! Looove pecan pie - yum!"

lol now I want pecan pie!


message 2314: by Lilisa (new)

Lilisa | 2770 comments Rusalka wrote: "Lilisa wrote: "There also a time and place for having more pecan pie and vanilla ice cream - and the time and place was here and now! Looove pecan pie - yum!"

lol now I want pecan pie!"


Sorry, I just had my second slice with ice cream!!! ...


message 2315: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I also don't get why people would want to go shopping on black friday. I would avoid the shops at all cost.


message 2316: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Annoyingly we seem to also have adopted black Friday here in the UK. Some people have also started the Buy Nothing Friday which is what I did.


message 2317: by Lisa (last edited Nov 28, 2015 02:58AM) (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments It's not just Black Friday here in the UK, it's Black Weekend which is even more annoying. I bought absolutely nothing yesterday too (well, apart from a couple of books which were not in the sales).

Rusalka - You couldn't pay me to go near the shops on Boxing Day either. Working in a shop on BD a few years ago was quite enough. Endless crowds, huge queues, rude customers, fights between customers, clothes pulled off hangers and shelves and left lying all over the floor. No thanks!


message 2318: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Smart people just wait for cyber monday.

I did go shopping yesterday but both places were well before town so no traffic and I was the only customer in the store. I had to go get a new water pressure tank and pupes and fittings since mine was spraying all over the wall. Also was no sales at the stores I went to. Although I stopped at the parts store to get 30 gallons of oil on the way home and tried to get them to give me a black friday 50% off deal. They weren't having any of it. Cheap bastards anyway


message 2319: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Of course I can't watch the news because I don't get the station where my cousin is a reporter. But he tweets. Baby dead in dumpster, store clerk covered in blood still waiting on customers and a crazy eye witness. Details at 11. Headline makes you want to tune in just because this can't haooen everyday the world isn't that messed up I don't believe.


message 2320: by Tasha (new)

Tasha I avoid BF as well but sometimes buy on Cyber Monday...I love shopping from home.


message 2321: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments What is Cyber Monday?

I love how you all have such creative names for the day following a holiday. We have Second Christmas Day, Second Easter Day, and Second Pentecost Day. All are horrible for shopping though ;-)


message 2322: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments I don't know... I mean Second Easter Day to us is just Easter Monday, so not really high on the inventive scale.

I didn't realise Pentecost was a big deal in the Netherlands. Here in Aus, you would only know about Pentecost if you were really involved with the church or just learnt about it in your private, religious school. I was only just the other day explaining the concept to Lexx who had no idea. Is it actually a holiday in the Netherlands?


message 2323: by Sandra, Moderator (last edited Nov 28, 2015 05:41AM) (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11260 comments Cyber Monday is the Monday following Thanksgiving when all the deals are for on-line shopping. It's a pretty new event, since it is only around 10 years.

Even newer (3 or 4 years) is the Giving Tuesday (the day after Cyber Monday) when you are supposed, after so much shopping, to donate. It's mostly done through social media.


message 2324: by Peggy (last edited Nov 28, 2015 05:47AM) (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments It is a holiday, but I have to admit I don't know what it's about exactly. I also don't know anyone who actually does something special religion-wise or family-wise. For most it's just an extra day off :) I think we still have it from back when more people were actually religious and it meant something to more people. It just never changed, and I don't think the Dutch would be very accepting if a holiday was taken from them all of a sudden without getting another day in return ;-)

I think there has been talk about it some time ago, to cancel out the second day (Monday) and instead give all people a day off during one of the Islam holidays. There are quite some Muslim people in the Netherlands and when they have their special celebrations they don't automatically get a day off.


message 2325: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11260 comments Guess who just phone me?!?! The Windows Clinic! It seems my computer is having terrible problems again...


message 2326: by Tasha (new)

Tasha Good thing they were on top of it!! ;)


message 2327: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59889 comments Sandra wrote: "Guess who just phone me?!?! The Windows Clinic! It seems my computer is having terrible problems again..."

I'm sorry, but I'm laughing.


message 2328: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59889 comments It's doubtful that my friend's gift card is going to buy me two tops for the price of one with the Black Friday sales, because I'm not going to have time to go shopping this weekend.

Black Friday was adopted here in Canada because the retail stores saw a way to cash in on raking in the profits.


message 2329: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments From what I heard on the news earlier, it sounds like a lot of people did their Black Friday shopping online this year in the UK and avoided the shops altogether. Many shops were deserted compared to the same time last year. Can't say I'm surprised. I would much rather shop from the comfort of home than get knocked around in huge crowds.


message 2330: by Kandice (new)

Kandice I don't understand why any country other than United States of America would even have Black Friday! We are the only ones with Thanksgiving, right?

Cyber Monday is when online stores have their big sales.

I try to avoid everything on BF but we did stop somewhere on the way home from a soccer tournament and my husband bought my daughter and I something for Christmas he would NEVER pay full price for so I can't gripe too much. :)


message 2331: by Lisa (last edited Nov 28, 2015 09:17AM) (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments Kandice wrote: "I don't understand why any country other than United States of America would even have Black Friday! We are the only ones with Thanksgiving, right?"

The retailers over here just look at it as another way of making even more money.


message 2332: by Sarah (last edited Nov 28, 2015 09:20AM) (new)

Sarah (sarahlou29) | 1302 comments It quite suits me in the UK as it's my birthday tomoz and already brought a few cheap things and delivery on some clothes was only 99p.
It does seem silly of us to adopt the Black Friday though.


message 2333: by Casceil (new)

Casceil | 2728 comments It does seem ironic that Black Friday has spread to places where Thanksgiving is not celebrated. Traditionally (eons ago, when I was a kid), Black Friday marked the beginning of the Christmas shopping season, and no one put up Christmas decorations before Thanksgiving. It was considered tacky. Now decorations go up in October and we have to listen to Christmas music in stores for about three months. I liked the old way better.


message 2334: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Casceil wrote: "It does seem ironic that Black Friday has spread to places where Thanksgiving is not celebrated. Traditionally (eons ago, when I was a kid), Black Friday marked the beginning of the Christmas shopp..."

I could not agree more! I hate when I see neighbors decorating in November, or G-d forbid, October. When I see them shlepping in a fresh tree that early I shudder at the fire hazard.


message 2335: by Casceil (new)

Casceil | 2728 comments The people across the street from us always put up a large, elaborate display with hundreds of lights, and at some point they add loud Christmas music. They start on their mammoth display in October. I have thought in the past that it must seem very strange to the trick-or-treaters on Halloween, to go to a house already displaying a Christmas Tree in the front window.


message 2336: by Lisa (last edited Nov 28, 2015 11:33AM) (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments Casceil wrote: "The people across the street from us always put up a large, elaborate display with hundreds of lights, and at some point they add loud Christmas music. They start on their mammoth display in Octobe..."

There was a couple who lived in a big house about 10 minutes away from us who used to do that. They started putting up all their lights and decorations in late October and once it was all done, they used to open up the house and garden and people could go in and look at the displays. They used to ask that you left a donation in a collections bucket which they then gave to charity. They did it every year for years. Sadly, the guy passed away a few years ago and his wife moved to a different area.


message 2337: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59889 comments I've turned into the Grinch, I'm afraid. I figure sometime in December is soon enough for Christmas decorations. A friend recently said that she had all her decorations up. "Nov 11th is THE day," she bubbled. I grumbled, "DECEMBER 11th is more like it."


message 2338: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Nov 28, 2015 04:29PM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments We had a place like that down the road. No music thank goodness, and mainly big cutouts of the nativity scene and angels and santas, but a fair amount of lights too. Ever since I moved to this area at 15 they've done it, and we all giggle at them.

But we drove past their place last week and they were all piled up on the side of the road with a sign saying "free". I said to Lexx, someone's died, or split up, or something else horrible has happened.

Next day, some other house between us and them had all the angels and the merry christmas sign up in *their* front garden. It's all really sad. UNLESS they have upgraded to the all singing, all dancing, flashing version this year. Then there will be no feeling sorry for anyone.


message 2339: by Kandice (new)

Kandice I try not to put up the tree and yard things until a week before Christmas, depending on what day of the week it falls and work. I take it down by January 5th. drop dead latest.


message 2340: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie I put up our Christmas tree and all the decorations up today :) even played Christmas music ;) hubby wanted to wait December 11th (his birthday) because that was when they would decorate. I love having the decorations up, but I refuse to decorate before Thanksgiving :)


message 2341: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Nov 28, 2015 05:26PM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments Lol Stephanie. There is a rule in our family that you can't decorate until at least the 13th Dec. Mum's b'day is the 10th and my brother's is the 12th. And if you even thought about putting up a decoration before they had their birthday's...

Your husband is much more tolerant than those two obviously.


message 2342: by Lynda (new)

Lynda | 836 comments I'm a big stickler on the no Christmas before Thanksgiving rule. Some years I just don't have it in me to decorate, but I got about 90% of it done today. Tomorrow I just need to decorate the tree and put up the Christmas lights outside. If it didn't make my mom happy (and if I didn't worry she'd drag her 81 year old self up the ladder when I'm at work), I'd probably never put up Christmas lights.


message 2343: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie @Rusalka, he is super tolerant when it comes to decorating...as long as he doesn't have to help ;)


message 2344: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments https://youtu.be/od7GUy9XS7c christmas music already. Heres a littke Corey Taylor Xmas. Warning explicit lyrics


message 2345: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Nov 28, 2015 10:30PM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments This charity single came out this week too. Hilarious, catchy and hopefully not geoblocked http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/kate-mi...
Warning: discusses body hair.


message 2346: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments Stephanie wrote: "@Rusalka, he is super tolerant when it comes to decorating...as long as he doesn't have to help ;)"

Hah!


message 2347: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Nov 29, 2015 04:01AM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19204 comments Following on from the weird recs from Facebook convo last week, I just logged back in to see:

"Because you are currently reading Revenge Revenge by Yōko Ogawa , a few recommendations in Fiction:
Blinky Bill Blinky Bill by Dorothy Wall "

Yes Goodreads. Creepy, unsettling, Japanese lit with implied violence and sexual themes is exactly the same as a classic, Australian, illustrated kids book about a cheeky koala who gets up to mischief with his lovable, animal friends.

Oi...


message 2348: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11260 comments lol, poor koala...


message 2349: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments I just found out that my parents planned visit is THE Christmas visit. Err... someone could have told me! They are bringing up all our pressies ready. I haven't even thought about what to buy them. It's not even December yet. Christmas is ages away. So I'm feeling a bit stressed. I'm guessing they won't be pleased with nothing for Christmas but not much thought will be going in to this year's presents if I have to have them ready in 6 days. Feeling in a grumpy mood so off to listen to Corey Taylor's crimbo song. I hope he says that Christmas can go to hell somewhere in there ;-)


message 2350: by Lynda (new)

Lynda | 836 comments I'm reminding of Dave Barry's guide to Christmas Shopping, http://www.davebarry.com/misccol/chri.... You have my sympathy, Sarah, Christmas shopping is the worst especially when you are in a mood!


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