Grimm Readers ~ How to Play, Help, & Discussion

[Jenne]

Paris wrote: "Ezinwanyi~the Impish Angel wrote: "But if it's shelved as a fairy tale regardless of accuracy, can we ride?

BTW, Jenne, this isn't easy man!!"

I"m with you Ezi.

Is this going to be like SS/SSS ..."

You definitely can use alternate editions for the tasks and mini's if needed.

[Jenne]

Paris wrote: "Jenne...got another one for you...

For the initials...does it have to be first and last only? Examples: I have a book by Sara B. Larson...would that count for SL only or SB as well or SB only? Or ..."

For the sake of simplicity it'll just be the first and last initial so Sarah b. Larson would be SL.

[Paris]

Jenne wrote: "You definitely can use alternate editions for the tasks and mini's if needed.

For the sake of simplicity it'll just be the first and last initial so Sarah b. Larson would be SL."

Awesome! Thanks Jenne....

Now...since you answered affirmative about the alternates....are her lips pink?

[Jenne]

Paris wrote: "Jenne wrote: "You definitely can use alternate editions for the tasks and mini's if needed.

For the sake of simplicity it'll just be the first and last initial so Sarah b. Larson would be SL."

..."

Yeah they look pinker than just natural lips :)
Better cover too than the U.S. one!

[Jenne]

Megan wrote: "Jenne wrote: "Megan wrote: "So Jenne... I copied one of your templates in my Google Spreadsheets (I edited it a little to make it easier for me), but I've went ahead and posted a link to it on my ..."

NP =}

[~Leslie~]

Ok, I am very slow here. I think I have most of it down. But I am a little confused on the set of 10 tasks.

So once we have 10 books completed that fit the different tasks, we should create a post. Is that correct? Or if 1 book can cover multiple tasks, the 10 tasks might be completed with less than 10 books. Correct as well?

Also, can I plagiarize a team's spreadsheet, please! I promise to write you up in my will as a way of saying thanks!

[Jenne]

Plagiarize away my dear :)

The sets of 10 tasks is harder to explain vs doing lol. I'm gonna make up a mock post in a minute and I'll post it here for everyone to see.

[Paris]

Jenne wrote: "Yeah they look pinker than just natural lips :)
Better cover too than the U.S. one! "

Thanks!! I like it a lot better too. Would you consider it a re-telling?

You are rocking this like crazy!

[Jenne]

Ok example:
For example purposes lets say the task was black on the cover with a mini challenge of 2 people on the cover. Once you've completed 10 books that fit the task group it together something like this:

Task books:
1. Priceless PP 25 (include who read the book too)
2. Cruel Beauty PP 30, FTR 50, TNB 50,
3. Immortal Rider PP 35, AI 50, TNB 50, MCP 20
4. Of Beast and Beauty PP 30, FTR 50, TNB 50,
and so on until you get to 10

At this point include any books that didn't fit the task and summarize them the same i.e.
The Fairest of Them All PP 25, FTR 50
Reached PP 40
White Hot Kiss PP 30, TNB 50, MCP 20

Then total up your totals:

Total PP for this post:
Total FTR for this post:
Total TNB for this post:
Total AI for this post:
Total MCP:
Total For complete task: 100


FYI:
PP stands for page points
FTR stands for fairytale retelling
TNB for team name bonus
AI for author initial
MCP stands for mini challenge points.

[Jenne]

Paris wrote: "Jenne wrote: "Yeah they look pinker than just natural lips :)
Better cover too than the U.S. one! "

Thanks!! I like it a lot better too. Would you consider it a re-telling?

You are rocking this ..."

Thanks :)
Lunar chronicles is definitely a retelling.

[Paris]

Ooooh and would Lunar count for the mini challenge?! lol

[Jenne]

You can use the moon as a method of telling time. So yep :)

[ilovebakedgoods (Teresa)]

Paris wrote: "Ooooh and would Lunar count for the mini challenge?! lol"

LOL! You CAN tell time by the moon, so maybe she'll accept it. :D

[Paris]

Woot! Thanks Jenne!

[ilovebakedgoods (Teresa)]

Ha. She beat me to it! Such a good catch, Paris. I didn't even think about that one. Now I have even more reason to read that series. It works for this challenge so well.

[Jenne]

I've also made some minor tweaks to the 1st mini challenge.
Check it out here.

[ilovebakedgoods (Teresa)]

Jenne wrote: "Ok example:
For example purposes lets say the task was black on the cover with a mini challenge of 2 people on the cover. Once you've completed 10 books that fit the task group it together somethin..."

Awesome! Thanks!

[Paris]

ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) wrote: "Ha. She beat me to it! Such a good catch, Paris. I didn't even think about that one. Now I have even more reason to read that series. It works for this challenge so well."

I'm just bummed that I literally just read Scarlet and Cress. lol

[Joanne]

I just finished Cress and Fairest in the last few weeks too. Bad timing.

[Jenne]

I think this one will finally make me read it's gotten such mixed reactions it's turned into one of those I've gotta see it for myself kind of things lol.

[Susan A]

Do single name authors count for bonus points?

Erastes

[Jenne]

I'm gonna say no to that one.

[Joanne]

Do only fairy-tale re-tellings count, like a retelling of Snow white or whatever? What about books that are considered "modern" fairy-tales? I found some books that are tagged fairy tales and I'm not sure they would count. For example:
or

[Jenne]

Joanne let me think on that one.
I'm about to call it a night. Any ?'s don't hesitate to ask and I'll check in the morning :)

[Paris]

Jenne wrote: "I think this one will finally make me read it's gotten such mixed reactions it's turned into one of those I've gotta see it for myself kind of thin..."

Ugh...good luck with that. Those were rough to get through.

[Joanne]

Yuck, have you guys seen how Anne Rice acts on the internet these days? I will never read anything she's written again.

[Paris]

Joanne wrote: "Yuck, have you guys seen how Anne Rice acts on the internet these days? I will never read anything she's written again."

Yeah she's rubbed me wrong too. But then she did that back when she renounced Lestat to write books about Jesus and then when the vampire trend came about again, she dropped Jesus cause he wasn't selling and started writing Lestat books again. It wouldn't have bothered me if she hadn't talked so much crap about Lestat and writing those books and all that.

[Skandia]

Jenne, would you consider a re-telling? It is based on Robin Hood legend.

Also, if author uses two initials, like A.C. Gaughen , do we use AC or AG combination?

[Susan A]

Skandia wrote:
Also, if author uses two initials, like A.C. Gaughen , do we use AC or AG com..."

see post 313

[Susan A]

Do embedded words count for team names?

ShaRED or PANdemic

[Heather]

Jenne, I'm wanting to read . It's shelved under retelling and fantasy. It's a modern day Romeo and Juliet story. Will this count for the FTR?

[Jenne]

Megan wrote: "Question...

Do we need to include the "Date Read" on each book? On either the spreadsheet or the threads? Just curious."

Include it when you're posting that you've finished on your team's thread. No need to include it on the spreadsheet or the tracking post. If I have any questions about a book, I'll revert to the person's shelf or the team's thread.

[Jenne]

Skandia wrote: "Jenne, would you consider a re-telling? It is based on Robin Hood legend.

Also, if author uses two initials, like A.C. Gaughen , do we use AC or AG com..."

That would count as a retelling and it looks pretty good =}

[Jenne]

Susan A wrote: "Do embedded words count for team names?

ShaRED or PANdemic"

No the word needs to be it's "own" word.

[Jenne]

Heather wrote: "Jenne, I'm wanting to read . It's shelved under retelling and fantasy. It's a modern day Romeo and Juliet story. Will this count for the FTR?"

I've seen lots of Romeo & Juliet retellings shelved like a fairy tale. To me it's not kinda like Wizard of Oz. Now I just did some research I've already said yes to Robin Hood and after looking it's not a fairy tale (I think the movie might of tripped me). I've already said yes to Robin Hood so it's ok, Alice in Wonderland is ok (wikipedia has it listed as one), Wizard of Oz & Romeo & Juliet are not ok.

[~Leslie~]

Megan wrote: "~Leslie~ wrote: "Ok, I am very slow here. I think I have most of it down. But I am a little confused on the set of 10 tasks.

So once we have 10 books completed that fit the different tasks, we sho..."

Thanks Jenne!! You explained it perfectly. I'm just really slow about understanding challenges!

As for team name, then I guess wouldn't work?

And I agree, that looks like a really good book!

[Skandia]

Jenne wrote: "Skandia wrote: "Jenne, would you consider a re-telling? It is based on Robin Hood legend.

Also, if author uses two initials, like A.C. Gaughen , do we ..."

Yay! Thanks Jenne!

[Heather]

No problem! I wasn't sure with that one. I don't think I would've said yes either but with it being shelved as a retelling it kinda threw me.

I'm glad you posted the info on Alice in Wonderland too! I automatically put that in as a fairytale retelling. I don't think I realized it actually isn't one. Thanks!

[~Melissa~]

~Leslie~ wrote: "Megan wrote: "~Leslie~ wrote: "Ok, I am very slow here. I think I have most of it down. But I am a little confused on the set of 10 tasks.

So once we have 10 books completed that fit the different..."


Hi Leslie! Cinder will work - here are the acceptables.....


Q. What all variations of the team names are ok for the team name bonus?

Cinderella: Cinder, cinders, Ella
Snow White: Snow, snowed, snows, snowing, white, whites
Little Mermaid: Little, Wee, Small, Mermaid, Merfolk, Merman
Red Riding Hood: Red, reds, ride, riders, riding, rider, hood, hoods, hooded
Beauty & the Beast: beauty, beautiful, beauties, beast, beasts, beastly
Sleeping Beauty: Sleep, sleeping, sleepy, asleep, beauty, beautiful, beauties
Peter Pan: Peter, pan, pans

[Jenne]

Joanne wrote: "Do only fairy-tale re-tellings count, like a retelling of Snow white or whatever? What about books that are considered "modern" fairy-tales? I found some books that are tagged fairy tales and I'm n..."

Ok Joanne the first one you listed has the characters from the old school tales. I would take it as a retelling for sure.

The other ones to me or more fantasy than fairy tale. This is kind of a gray area for sure. I'll make the final decision on a retelling based on:
A) Does it have any characters from any fairy tale?
B) Does the blurb make it sound like a retelling?
C) Is it listed on a listopia or been shelved as a retelling? Now they're are mis-shelved books for sure so if by reading it or by reading the blurb you can tell it's bogus then don't count it.

Now it doesn't have to have ALL of those features to be considered a retelling. I've seen some modern day ones that feature the characters in a modern setting like Red and I'm ok with those.

It's that fine line between fantasy, paranormal, and fairy tale when it comes to modern fairytales. Any book that's kind of hazy just ask and I'll look at it and say ya or nay :)

[Jenne]

Throughout the coming days I'll be updating all of the team threads with info like post 354⬆ for easy reference.

[~Leslie~]

Thanks, Jenne! Your problem child strikes again. Sorry for the repeated question! Saw that it was answered in my team's thread but didn't go there first.

Not sure if this has been answered before - with author initials can you use any team name or does it have to be your own team?

[~Melissa~]

Jenne wrote: "Throughout the coming days I'll be updating all of the team threads with info like post 354⬆ for easy reference."

Being slightly obsessed.... I already added it to my first post on Sleeping Beauty thread :D

[Jenne]

Any team Leslie. Susan put together all of the possible combos yesterday. I've added it to post 3 on each team's thread.

[Susan A]

Jenne wrote: "Joanne wrote: "Do only fairy-tale re-tellings count, like a retelling of Snow white or whatever? What about books that are considered "modern" fairy-tales? I found some books that are tagged fairy ..."


My particular problem with this is that I don't know fairytales. So for example, back to this lovely gem again:



It had a series title: Grimm & Dirty Fairytales

It is on the Fairy Tale Retellings Hidden Gems list (I can't wait to see if I agree!)

However, when I read the story descriptions - -I have no idea whether these stories are based on fairytales and which ones.

Does that matter? Is the series title and list enough, or should I be asking for confirmation from someone who actually knows fairytales?

[Jenne]

Susan you're obsessed with that one lol. The name makes me LMAO!



When we have a new challenge like this launched it takes the questions in order to work the kinks out and find any holes.

In order to keep things simplified I'm going to change the ruling on re-tellings, modern tales, etc.


IF IT'S BEEN SHELVED AT LEAST 5 TIMES AS A RE-TELLING OR FAIRY TALE IT'LL COUNT TOWARDS THE FTR BONUS.

IF IT'S ON A FAIRY TALE LISTOPIA I'LL TAKE IT

SO THIS WILL MAKE ROMEO& JULIET AND WIZARD OF OZ COUNT SINCE THEY'VE BEEN SHELVED MULTIPLE TIMES.


And I'm not shouting that just making it visible :)

[Susan A]

Great Jenne. Thanks. That will cut down on my questions.

For what's it worth, I think you've done a great job with the set up of this and dealing with the questions. I am grateful for the enormous amount of time this must be taking.

ANd yes...the ogre obesseion...seriously a whole new world!

[Jenne]

Ok I don't think I missed anything. (Hopefully ;-))

I'm going to be hit and miss with my GR time today. If I don't answer right away I'll get to it as soon as I can :)

[Jenne]

Susan A wrote: "Great Jenne. Thanks. That will cut down on my questions.

For what's it worth, I think you've done a great job with the set up of this and dealing with the questions. I am grateful for the enorm..."

Bwahaha you'll have to let me know what you think about it :)

Thanks too =)

[Susan A]

Are teammates allowed to read the same book?


and...

I understand your message above, but what if it is clearly a re-telling, but not on a list, not been shelved? Still okay? Huntsman's Prey .. only shelved 2 times, not on a list, but the first book in the series was shelved as fairy tale many times, the book blurb mentions Wonderland, Hatter, fairy gm....

Any word on Tarzan?

THanks...and I promise to give you a few hours without any questions from me :)