The best books published during the 17th century (January 1st, 1601 through December 31st 1700).
Most Rated Books by Year By Century
21st, 20th, 19th, 18th, BEFORE 18th
Best Books By Century:
21st, 20th,
19th, 18th, 17th, 16th, 15th,14th, 13th, 12th, 11th, 10th,
9th, 8th, 7th, 6th, 5th, 4th
Lists for all books by Number of Ratings:
10,000 to 15,000, 15,000 to 20,000, 20,000 to 25,000, 25,000 to 30,000,
30,000 to 40,000, 40,000 to 50,000, 50,000 to 60,000, 60,000 to 70,000,
70,000 to 80,000, 80,000 to 89,999, 90,000 to 99,999, 100,000 to 149,999,
150,000 to 199,999, 200,000 to 499,999, 500,000 to 999,999, 1,000,000 and more
Most Rated Books by Year By Century
21st, 20th, 19th, 18th, BEFORE 18th
Best Books By Century:
21st, 20th,
19th, 18th, 17th, 16th, 15th,14th, 13th, 12th, 11th, 10th,
9th, 8th, 7th, 6th, 5th, 4th
Lists for all books by Number of Ratings:
10,000 to 15,000, 15,000 to 20,000, 20,000 to 25,000, 25,000 to 30,000,
30,000 to 40,000, 40,000 to 50,000, 50,000 to 60,000, 60,000 to 70,000,
70,000 to 80,000, 80,000 to 89,999, 90,000 to 99,999, 100,000 to 149,999,
150,000 to 199,999, 200,000 to 499,999, 500,000 to 999,999, 1,000,000 and more
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Not anymore -- but plenty of books still are (Ben Jonson's plays, for one). Whenever a given book page says that the book was "first published" in a year other than that of its REAL initial publication (e.g., because the text edition in question was first published in the year stated), you can't put that book on the list. And it gets worse the further back you go in history ...
Just about every Jacobean playwright of note. Middleton, Fletcher, Beaumont, Webster, Ford ... the lot. (Same goes for the Restoration poets and dramatists: Davenant, Wycherly, and most of Congreve; to name just some of them.)Don't rush to do this, though -- I'm sure there are plenty of better things to keep you busy. Not that those who care about this aren't profoundly grateful for your labors! (Well, I am, anyway ...)
John Webster, check. (And there seem to be about 5 authors named "John Webster" all lumped together! This one, a theologian, a guy who writes about fungi and dairy cows, etc.)
Beaumont and Fletcher, check.Half of Fletcher's listing is a guy who's an expert on Samuel Beckett. And a novelist, and a guy who reviews cars.
Isn't 1633 the seventeenth century? I've been trying to add The Temple by George Herbert and am told it was not published during the seventeenth century.
Susanna wrote: "Beaumont and Fletcher, check.Half of Fletcher's listing is a guy who's an expert on Samuel Beckett. And a novelist, and a guy who reviews cars."
Susanna, you deserve a medal for this ...
Shakespeare's First Folio, 1623, 2nd 1632, 3rd 1664, 4th 1687 all published during 17th (obviously) and all available for viewing (look but don't touch) in the States especially at he Widener in Harvard and he Folger in Wash, D.C. I'm steamed and frustrated.....If Goodreads can't sell it, seems they don't want to acknowledge its existence
LONG OVERDUE THANKS TO LOBSTERGIRL and UNKNOWN. Thanks for fighting the good fight. "Goodreads doesn't care about Antiquarians" (bumper sticker).
Uh, the individual plays of Shakespeare should be eligible. A number of them are on this list, in fact. (Others are on the 16th Century List.)Also, I changed the original publication date of The Anatomy of Melancholy to 1621.
If Goodreads is an example of "viral marketting", maybe what we have in this thread of comments is ......a "retrovirus" ?
Thom wrote: "If Goodreads is an example of "viral marketting", maybe what we have in this thread of comments is ......a "retrovirus" ?"Oh, now that was just terrible...
Stuart wrote: "Thom wrote: "If Goodreads is an example of "viral marketting", maybe what we have in this thread of comments is ......a "retrovirus" ?"Oh, now that was just terrible..."
Many have told me my humor is something less than....infectious.
(Sorry all around, and God bless are there, Thom)
Thom wrote: "If Goodreads is an example of "viral marketting", maybe what we have in this thread of comments is ......a "retrovirus" ?"
LOL! I like it. ;-)
LOL! I like it. ;-)
In defense of the people who first entered data on GR, it was probably unclear that the "first published" field actually meant first ever publication of the work, rather than first publication of a particular edition. I think the fields are now clearer, but many incorrect dates remain.
Susanna, you're a star.(And both you and Lobstergirl are probably right on how this mess came about in the first place.)
Glad to see some favorite restoration dramas here. I've added a 1637 Chinese book on technology, if nonfiction is okay. I, too, had to deal with the "originally published" field, which had the date of Dover's first printing of it. But I figure unless it had to have been translated into English in the 17th century, it should be okay. Besides, it's just neat.
Alessandra wrote: "Glad to see some favorite restoration dramas here. I've added a 1637 Chinese book on technology, if nonfiction is okay. I, too, had to deal with the "originally published" field, which had the da..."Chinese technology in the 17th century -- now THAT sounds intriguing indeed!!
I honestly believe that this is seriously biassed list. But I also think that it is only natural. Should such a list have been proposen in Germany, France, Italy or my country, Spain, the result would have been correspondingly different, with a biass of their own. But, thank you nonetheless. It is very useful to me. I'll try adding some Spanish ones, which in my opinion are worthy of being in this list.
Ricardo, you should add whatever works you want. There's no intended bias; people add the works they're familiar with.
I apologize if it did sound a bit bitter. Of course the bias was not intended. I just wrote that comment because when I read the list (which, I admit, I found because I was looking for something similar) I wondered if such a thing as the title proposes, a ranking of the best books written in the 17th century, is possible. I will add my own favourites (and there will be a bias in that list too), but I struggle with the concept of ranking for books. Their sales can be measured, but that is no measure for quality. And, how is quality measured once we go beyond good and bad? Where is the line thrown for a 100% good, or just 99% good? How do we do or do not take into account our own cultural influences? I apologize again if my previous comment sounded as negative, because that was not my intention. It was more than anything a simple thought about the matter, and briefly expressed. Once again, thank you for the list, because it did in fact help me.
Doctor Faustus and Richard III are on both this list and the best books of the 16th century... Hmmmm... Something's gone wrong there.
Marlowe's Doctor Faustus was first published in 1604, according to wiki, although first performed c. 1592. I think it should be left on the list, definitely.I removed Richard III.
William Bradford's On Plymouth Plantation(includes Mayflower Compact & First Thanksgiving), anything by John Winthrop, Anne Bradstreet, almost anything by Roger Williams is unavailable because of mislisting of first publication dates. Thanks!
Mel wrote: "William Bradford's On Plymouth Plantation(includes Mayflower Compact & First Thanksgiving), anything by John Winthrop, Anne Bradstreet, almost anything by Roger Williams is unavailable because of m..."If you go over to the Librarians Group and link to each book in question, they can correct that for you.
Thanks Lobstergirl! I added an edition to John Woolman's Journal, but I don't know if that will do it.
I see that one was published posthumously in 1774, so it wouldn't be eligible for this list.Best thing to do is post in Librarians Group. You don't have to be a GR librarian to post there but you do have to be a group member.
The King James Version of the Bible was based on William Tyndale's English translation in the 1500's from [what he knew of] ancient Hebrew and Greek (not all the copies were burned!). Much of Tyndale's beautiful language is retained. The King James' committee massaged it, making it (primarily) politically correct for its time. I don't think "Anonymous" is the appropriate author.
I don't understand why Shakespeare is in this century. His plays were reproduced and produced for public consumption during his lifetime. One of the things I love about these lists "per century" is being able to absorb the flavor of discourse and leisure from century to century. Shakespeare just doesn't belong here.
Lyn wrote: "I don't understand why Shakespeare is in this century. His plays were reproduced and produced for public consumption during his lifetime. One of the things I love about these lists "per century" is..."Some of his works are on this list, some of them are on Best Books of the 16th century.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/52
Lyn wrote: "The King James Version of the Bible was based on William Tyndale's English translation in the 1500's from [what he knew of] ancient Hebrew and Greek (not all the copies were burned!). Much of Tynda..."Undoubtedly you are right, but it is a Goodreads convention for sacred texts like the Bible to have Anonymous as author. There were long discussions about this in the Librarian Group, beginning years ago. You can go there and search for them and read them.
I would like to add Palace of Eternal Youth by Hong Sheng. It was originally written in 1688 but Goodreads does not have an originally published date for this work to reflect this and so I cannot add it to this list. Might a librarian be able to update the entry?Thank you!
Erin wrote: "I would like to add Palace of Eternal Youth by Hong Sheng. It was originally written in 1688 but Goodreads does not have an originally published date for this work..."Done.
Lobstergirl wrote: "Erin wrote: "I would like to add Palace of Eternal Youth by Hong Sheng. It was originally written in 1688 but Goodreads does not have an originally published date ..."Thank you! 😊
Johannes Kepler's Harmonies Of The World & Epitome of Copernican Astronomy and Harmonies of the World could be added to this list when their original publication years are changed to something more appropriate.
Changed the publication date on Harmonies of the World to 1619. The second volume is more complicated because it's a double book, and I'm not sure on which date is the correct one in that case.
Susanna - Censored by GoodReads wrote: "Changed the publication date on Harmonies of the World to 1619. The second volume is more complicated because it's a double book, and I'm not sure on which date is the correct one in that case."Thanks! (I started a thread in the Book Issues subforum the other day about them, so it's possible someone will consider whether to re-date the second book).
I would like to add the following to the list:1) Plum Shadows and Plank Bridge: Two Memoirs about Courtesans by Mao Xiang (1611-93) and Yu Huai (1616-96)
2) The Diary of 1636: The Second Manchu Invasion of Korea by Man-Gap Na (1592-1642)
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