MeerderWörter’s Comments (group member since Jan 08, 2016)

MeerderWörter’s comments from the Our Shared Shelf group.

Ross wrote: "I. have often thought feminism should be on schools curriculums. having this book on the standard proscribed reading list would be a good place to start."

I definitely agree with you. It's a good book to read, if only university wouldn't bury me in work, so that I could actually read it:(

Sounds like a really great idea:)

So, I don't know if Käthe Leichter was a Feminist, but I think so. She was conducting Research among working-class women, and that as early as before WWI:)

A contemporary woman I'd like to mention here is Betsy Driver, because she did so much and still does so much for the rights of Intersex People, and quite a few of them identify as "woman" themselves.
Another contemporary that I think really Needs to be included is Gloria Steinem, because, let's face it, where would we be without the face of second- (maybe third-) wave feminism:) She was at the Houston Conference in 1977, that alone is great:)

Emma wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Keith wrote: "@Meederworter @Laure

Sorry for any typos, using handheld.

I think JK was expressing her frustration at the neverending abuse directed at women, particularly th..."

Well, I'm not really Bible-stable, but if they try to attack my gay and intersex brothers and sisters, they will burn:) Such hypocrites. Say they are Christian and don't follow their own Scripture!

Keith wrote: "@Meederworter @Laure

Sorry for any typos, using handheld.

I think JK was expressing her frustration at the neverending abuse directed at women, particularly those in politics.

What will be inter..."

Yeah, I'm not really a friend of the DUP, I gave this angry man a proper response back:
https://twitter.com/Emma_Adorer/statu...
What they throw each other at their heads is unbelievable tho!

Kelly wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "I hope forever, or until its need is fulfilled, if one could say so(, although I highly doubt that the need will ever vanish).

A few moments ago I was watching how many posts..."

Kelly, sociology is so GREAT! I mean, in my opinion it's the perfect thing to study if you're a feminist, and I can't wait to read all the great authors.
It's the thing to do really, oh, I learned so much! And OSS helped me as an example from time to time:)

Ross wrote: "If anyone wonders why we need fourth wave of feminism the number of movies failing or passing these tests with on scene should be enough to convince them.

How about "the Circle" have not been able..."

Yeah, that one has a good chance. Why do I have to live in Austria where it comes out on 15th of SEPTEMBER?! I can't imagine many will watch it, anyone who wants will have seen it otherwise.

Kaivallya wrote: "Victoria wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Kaivallya wrote: "I think the Bechdel test is a convenient way to see how/if women are represented in the film it is being applied to. It is convenient, but i..."

Uh, makes me only more anticipate that movie. Can't wait for the 15th, when it comes out here in Austria:)

Keith wrote: "This is everywhere http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/10/j-k-row...

Say's it all really. For the record, I can't stand Mrs M..."

But she's right, isn't she? It's never okay to refer to a person like that... whether we agree with their political views or not.

Victoria wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Kaivallya wrote: "I think the Bechdel test is a convenient way to see how/if women are represented in the film it is being applied to. It is convenient, but it's certainly not..."

I didn't know that test existed, yay!
And I agree with you, it's of no use to have a few people of colour in a movie when they just say a few lines (of course that depends also on the topic of the movie), and are left out otherwise:(

I wonder if Wonder Woman passes the Shukla test, it's a good chance it does!

Winston wrote: "Cool awesome thoughts ya'll. Sorry for the touch of emotion. I think it's important to keep learning from other cultures and especially in art, understand context so we can better appreciate each o..."

Yeah, now I get you.

Music is, after all, the only language all of us can speak and understand. It builds bridges like nothing else. And context is very important, that indeed.

Wow, this blew up:)

I'm more into classic music, sorry Winston. Like The Blue Danube or Scotland the Brave. Stuff like that:)

Although I do have a German rapper, I like her very much, although I don't know if she's doing Hip-Hop. I'm really bad at musics, sorry.

Kaivallya wrote: "I think the Bechdel test is a convenient way to see how/if women are represented in the film it is being applied to. It is convenient, but it's certainly not the last word in women's representation..."

I actually really like your questions on female characters in literature. Because it gives not only the observers more to talk about, the characters personality is more brought to light.

But then, that doesn't make the Bechdel test wrong or incomplete, as you said, it is a minimum requirement for a movie, as you implied.

The Bechdel test is good as it is. Although I wish there were other tests to use on films, regarding ethnicity, religion, gender and sex.

Victoria wrote: "I completely agree with Elizabeth: "Passing isn't inherently feminist. Failing isn't inherently not feminist".
I think the test is a tool and it can give us some perspective on female roles in movi..."

I am totally on the side of my two previous speakers, just because the movie passes or does not pass the Bechdel test does not tell us if it is feminist or antifeminist. (I've never seen Fight Club, so I can't speak for that, but if there is only one woman in there, it fails the test right from the start)

Ashley wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Jade wrote: "Anyone else shocked by Jason Derulo's new song "Swalla" ? I think nowadays no one reacts to these sort of disrespectful songs. What are kids watching tv going to ..."

I have no idea what a "thot" is(English is my second language) , but these lyrics really are disrespectful towards women I think. I mean, the lyrics shout sex from beginning to end.

And I second James here, not my type of music anyway.

Jade wrote: "Anyone else shocked by Jason Derulo's new song "Swalla" ? I think nowadays no one reacts to these sort of disrespectful songs. What are kids watching tv going to think of women when they hear and s..."

Can you give us a link? Because I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't know that song (perhaps for the better tho).

To read this topic with all its mutual respect and understanding feels so great!

It's somewhat sad that there isn't any talk in here anymore, but it just feels so great to read this topic!

Ross wrote: "Greatest testament to Emma as a Feminist is her results. Where we are now OSS is but one example of where the debate on equal rights for women and the expansion into the fourth wave Equality moveme..."

I totally second you on your last sentence, bloody nowadays radical feminists are so annoying.

Fera wrote: "At first I joined this group/book club to get book recommendation for my 2017 Reading Challenge. I never thought myself as a feminist nor I wanted to be one. The Vagina Monologues was my first book..."

You could always look in the meet-up section, or create a topic therefore. I really hope you find people for discussion.

Thanks, Laure, Robert and Keith:)
The next step now is to really go into the details and work them out, as well as to get it to the people. I bought a t-shirt and stickers and hell yeah, I will run around with that all the time. I'm fed up with the government, they better work for us women, we elected them.

Georgios wrote: "Ross wrote: "eorgios, TERF is radical extremist. like yourself in MRA's you should go bowling so similar in outlook and argument, odd really given you are diametrically opposed"

All i can say abou..."

May I just remind us all to behave ourselves?