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message 751: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments I'm a dozy bugger. It's willATwill-once.com.

Tut. Can't remember my own email address. Admittedly, it is one of seven I use ...


message 752: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Oiy!

Don't be posting our email addresses in here, Mike!


message 753: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Yup, email addresses can be trawled by search engine bots which can mean that you get targeted for spam. Not a good idea.

So the trick when giving email addresses over the internet is to disguise them a little, like taking out the @ symbol. That way humans can read them but bots can't.


message 754: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I don't want my email made public in any form. Sheesh.


message 755: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Understandable.

We author types have to be a bit more adventurous. Email addresses are a part of the shop window. Mind you, that's why I have seven. And Will Once isn't my real name!


message 756: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments It's Will Twice - but that sounds like boasting... ;)


message 757: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments I thought he was maybe Will once, but isn't any more.


message 758: by Michael (last edited Jan 25, 2016 02:59AM) (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments I don't think that kind of email harvesting is profitable any more, but I've removed them any way.

Edit - Oh, Patti did it already!


message 759: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Right, y'all should have received an email from me.


message 760: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments I have, thank you. I'll get on to it asap.


message 761: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Finally started reading them. Just began the third.


message 762: by Joo (new)

Joo (jooo) | 1351 comments I don't think I got back to you Michael.
Give me a prod if I don't email you later today.


message 763: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Okay, thanks both.


message 764: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Tut! You can't get the staff, can you? ;)


message 765: by ✿Claire✿ (new)

✿Claire✿ (clairelm) | 2602 comments Sorry Michael, things got a bit busy, I'll be starting it on my next day off on Tuesday.


message 766: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments No need to apologise, Claire, take your time.


message 767: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I'm in the midst of 'Nurse'.

Loving it.

Kindle sez 36 minutes left so I should finish before bedtime.


message 768: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Authorly update time!

The decision not to release the short stories bruised my ego quite a bit, so I ended up sulking in front of the Xbox for a few weeks until my testosterone levels recovered.

I decided to take a look at one of my first releases, Underneath, and found myself shocked (and maybe a little embarrassed) at how clunky and amateur it felt.

In fact, it read like a first draft that I hadn't yet done any editing on.

As such, I'm treating it like a first draft that hasn't had any editing, which means I'm effectively rewriting it. I've almost finished the first run through and will be giving it at least one more after that.

In a way this is a good thing as it shows how much I've improved over the last couple of years or so.

The story, plot, characters, etc. will be unchanged, but those who have already read it can expect an even more terrifying, angry, and dangerous Hugh to find his way onto your Kindle...


message 769: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Good on ya, Mikey!

I'm proud of you!

You're a damn fine writer, you know.


message 770: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Aw, gee, shucks.


message 771: by David (new)

David Hadley Good luck.

I'm doing the same thing myself. Or rather I've taken some of my older stuff down while I decide whether to update/re-do it or just put it back into the drawer permanently.


message 772: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Cheers.

I've actually binned off two of the shorts I had up on Amazon back in the early days.


message 773: by David (new)

David Hadley I'm thinking of getting rid of my short stories too, one of them is now the first few chapters of a new novel. I may do something similar with the others.

What is irritating though is Goodreads not allowing you to take them down from here when you decide to unpublish. I can see why they think the way they do, though.


message 774: by Michael (last edited May 20, 2016 08:01AM) (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Forgot to give an update on this. The new version of Underneath has been uploaded to Amazon, Smashwords, and CreateSpace. Anyone who bought it on Kindle can (presumably) get the new edition direct from Amazon.

Anyone else can just download it direct from here - http://michaelcargill.co.uk/

(Yes, I now have my own domain! No, I don't know what to do with it...)

Purchase links:

Amazon UK - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1490451536

Amazon US - https://amzn.com/B008C3HIA2

Smashwords - https://www.smashwords.com/books/view...


message 775: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments The new version of what?


message 776: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Ha! Can't believe I missed that bit out.

The new version of Underneath!


message 777: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Link?

Good grief, Mikey.

Do I need to lead you round by the nose?


message 778: by Michael (last edited May 20, 2016 08:02AM) (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments I wasn't as optimistic about sales as you were, but I've now added the purchase links.


message 779: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Good boy.


message 780: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4842 comments Michael Cargill wrote: "I wasn't as optimistic about sales as you were, but I've now added the purchase links."

Patti has very exacting standards; best follow them.


message 781: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments This is why we get on so well, Alicia.

You accept my megalomania.


message 782: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4842 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "This is why we get on so well, Alicia.

You accept my megalomania."


What megalomania? Standards are not megalomania; they are merely standards.


message 783: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Okay.

*sits back, smiling and stroking her cat*


message 784: by Michael (last edited Sep 10, 2016 07:01AM) (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Authorly update 1:

A few weeks back I re-wrote Shades of Grey, my short story collection that was originally published way back in 2011.

The plots, characters, etc. are all the same but it now reads far better than it did.

You purchase a copy from Amazon UK and Amazon US, whilst reviewers can bag themselves a free copy from my website - http://www.michaelcargill.co.uk/


message 785: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Authorly update 2:

For as long as I can remember, I've had two potent ideas for a story bouncing around in my head - one was set in WWII and the other had a fantasy setting.

Today I fired up Microsoft Word and, after starting at a blank page for five minutes, finally settled on "Fantasy Story 2" as the working title.

As of right now the tale is a mere 211 words long and hasn't moved much beyond talking about birds and horses, but that will be changing soon.

Those of you who did some proof reading for me a while back may well remember a character called Alena from the fantasy story... well, this time around she is the main character in a completely new story.


message 786: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Ooooooo!

Email me a copy of Shades, dude. I wanna see what you've done with it.

Looking forward to seeing Alena again! She's a great character!


message 787: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments I've emailed you the mobi file for Shades to your Golden Yahoo address.

It's good to see some fans of Alena! As it happens I didn't originally intend for her to be as strong a character as she turned out to be.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Did you revise 'Shades' 50 times?


message 789: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Thanks, Mikey! I'll do the proofing thing on it, if you like?

So, so pleased you've got something for me to read!


message 790: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Ha! The chore of editing certainly makes it feel like I've revised it 50 times.

Patti, feel free to do the proofing if you want but I'm certainly not expecting you to.


message 791: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments No worries. I'll do a half arsed job of it to make sure you don't feel you owe me money for it. ;)


message 792: by Marc (new)

Marc Nash (sulci) | 4313 comments I often find titles come late, don't stress it


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "No worries. I'll do a half arsed job of it to make sure you don't feel you owe me money for it. ;)"

Which half of your arse will you use?


message 794: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Marc, as a proud pantser, I find that the entire story comes late...!


message 795: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Gingerlily - Mistress Lantern wrote: "Patti (baconater) wrote: "No worries. I'll do a half arsed job of it to make sure you don't feel you owe me money for it. ;)"

Which half of your arse will you use?"


I'm left arsed.


message 796: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Michael Cargill wrote: "Marc, as a proud pantser, I find that the entire story comes late...!"

Panster.

I have no clue what that means.


message 797: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments A plotter is a writer who writes out a plan for their story before starting on it.

A pantser writes on the seat of their pants, essentially making it up as they go along.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments You would have to have very big pants to write a novel on the seat of them!


message 799: by Marc (new)

Marc Nash (sulci) | 4313 comments Michael Cargill wrote: "Marc, as a proud pantser, I find that the entire story comes late...!"

I hear ya buddy!


message 800: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments Hi all. I can't believe it's been nearly five years since I posted in here.

The fantasy story I talked about back in 2016 hasn't been touched since 2017, and still lies at a mere 9k words long. The ideas are still there, and I think about it fairly regularly, but I just haven't sat down to put them to words yet.

I'm still hoping to get it written.

In more productive news, I've released a new edition of Saying Goodbye to Warsaw. The story is exactly as it was, but it reads much better now. I went through it three times:

On the 1st run, I didn't actually change all that much. There were loads of sections that annoyed me, but I seemed to be doing little more than replacing fullstops with semi-colons.

My 2nd run made me happier, as I managed to smashed open the annoying sections and piece them back together into something far more readable. I also undid most of the semi-colon work from my first run.

3rd run was a refinement of the previous two, and I was very pleased with the results.

According to the stats, this new edition is about 1.5k words shorter, but what remains is a far better and smoother reading experience.

I've got an idea for an extra half-chapter or so which would provide some closure for one of the minor characters, but decided against writing it. Although I consider this story to be the best of my work, the subject matter is grim and I always feel sad when going through it again.


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