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Piper or Reyna ? Who should Jason choose?
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Piper knows that her mom might be manipulating Jas..."
Have you read Mark of Athena? On page 152 it said "Piper looked up at the clouds and wondered if her mother, Aphrodite,was somehow influencing him. His apology seemed to good to be true.
But don't stop, she thought.
Aphrodite might not be, but Piper doesn't really seem to care, in fact she is even encouraging it.

Piper knows that her mom might be man..."
"Dont stop" was directed towards Jason
Leah wrote: "GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"
Piper knows th..."
er...sorry but i don't see how that is pointed towards jason...
( i'm just a bit confused by that...hence my butting in your convo with GreatScottland/TheEmoQueen/Nancy etc)
then again...if your saying that piper means that jason shouldn't stop the apology that seems to good to be true; directly after saying that her mother may somehow be influencing him, it still infers that piper is encouraging her mother...because hse is basically saying that the 'too good to be true apology' is a result of her mother's influence...regardless of how it is taken.
just my 2 cents added...
Piper knows th..."
er...sorry but i don't see how that is pointed towards jason...
( i'm just a bit confused by that...hence my butting in your convo with GreatScottland/TheEmoQueen/Nancy etc)
then again...if your saying that piper means that jason shouldn't stop the apology that seems to good to be true; directly after saying that her mother may somehow be influencing him, it still infers that piper is encouraging her mother...because hse is basically saying that the 'too good to be true apology' is a result of her mother's influence...regardless of how it is taken.
just my 2 cents added...


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Piper knows that her mom might be manipulating Jason's feelings but she doesn't care..."
Jason does care for her but I think he cares for her as muh because he's under the influence.

Piper knows that her mom might be man..."
She wondered if her mom was influencing. Yes, she wondered if Venus was influencing. Influencing is still influencing.

Piper knows that her mom might be manipulating Jas..."
Didn't you hear her talk about how her relationship with Jason is now real? Piper wondered if her mom is influencing the relationship.

Piper knows that her mom might be man..."
She wonders. She doesn't get down on her knees and beg her mother to make her otherwise awful relationship with her boyfriend better.


Piper knows that her mo..."
No, but why would she do that? Right in front Jason? That would be kinda creepy, so of course she wouldn't beg her mom. If Pipers tough, why would she beg her mom to help her with her relationship? There isn't a logical reason to why she would beg her mom for help.
What I'm trying to say is that she wouldn't do that, so saying she could have done something worse when it isn't logical doesn't work at all. What she did was basically the worse thing she could have done. She basically said,"Mom, if your influencing Jason, keep on doing it!"
And her relationship with Jason isn't awful, at least for her side of the relationship, but for everyone else...

Piper knows that her mo..."
Okay? I didn't say that Piper did that.

Piper know..."
Leo feels left out. I find that to be messed up. They can at least include him in some activities with them.
She was thinking that in front of Jason. When Jason blowed his candles Piper wished he wished that they can be together forever. That's creepy.
yeah it's pathetic and selfish if you ask me, seriously sometimes I wonder if Piper gives a damn about anything else besides her relationship with Jason

She was thinking that in front of Jason. When Jason blowed his candles Piper wished he wished that they can be together forever. That's creepy. )
I wish Piper would start thinking about Leo more. Both of the them(Leo and Piper) never considered what their relationship was before their memories got messed up when Jason appeared.
GreatScottland wrote: "(Leo feels left out. I find that to be messed up. They can at least include him in some activities with them.
She was thinking that in front of Jason. When Jason blowed his candles Piper wished he..."
' wish Piper would start thinking about Leo more. Both of the them(Leo and Piper) never considered what their relationship was before their memories got messed up when Jason appeared.'
i agree with that. before knowing that they were children of gods, that they had speacial powers; and even though they both did get in trouble (leo setting things afire piper borrowing BMW), leo was her friend and piper was his and it rarely feels as though that little fact is acknowlegded.
She was thinking that in front of Jason. When Jason blowed his candles Piper wished he..."
' wish Piper would start thinking about Leo more. Both of the them(Leo and Piper) never considered what their relationship was before their memories got messed up when Jason appeared.'
i agree with that. before knowing that they were children of gods, that they had speacial powers; and even though they both did get in trouble (leo setting things afire piper borrowing BMW), leo was her friend and piper was his and it rarely feels as though that little fact is acknowlegded.

I never thought about it that way but it is an interesting thought. It wasn't friendship because your hot or have cool powers, and it wasn't there because you are on a quest with me, which is what it seemed like in TLH. It was pure friendship, stronger than Piper and Jason, yet they treat it like it never happened and that theirs is stronger.


I kind of doubt it, I don't think they did a lot of dangerous stuff, but we don't really know what Jason and Reyna did either on their quests.

We don't know if Jason wants Piper. In the lost hero, its implied that he likes Piper and doesn't want to hurt her feelings. In Mark of Athena we don't see his point of view, so we can only guess what is going on in his head.
Plus, Jason doesn't just want Piper(or used to, at least).

Isn't it strange that Jason ask Piper to talk to Reyna in TMoA, even suggesting sharmspeak? If Jason and Reyna were so close friends why don't he talk to her himself? But then again if Jason and Reyna were really close, why do he feels so lonely (he express it through TLH). The loneliness didn't come from his amnesia. It was already there. He would not have felt so lonely if he had someone he really could talk to in camp Jupiter.
It is not about who is best between Reyna and Piper, is about who suits Jason best (two different questions). I think Piper suits Jason better than Reyna.

I'm not so sure if Piper actually helps him to be a better person. Jason already had a sense of duty and justice; he's already more or less a good person.
Jason was his past and it would feel awkward for him to talk to her again. Personally, I think Jason tries to run away from his problems so he told Piper to talk to Reyna.
Once again, it would be an awkward conversation. Reyna will probably be straight forward with him and tell him that he's changed and that's probably something he doesn't want to hear.
Well, could t be that he was actually alone. He didn't have the Romans with him, he was surrounded by Greeks.
He has Dakota, Bobby, Gwen and Reyna. But, I guess he didn't talk to them about that.
Nah, I still think Reyna suits him better.


can you imagine that even if you have a great parents but you never have their attention?
I'll do the same thing as Piper...
everyone says that she's lucky... too perfect yet have too many flaws....
but that's what make her character more real... more... human (even though she's a demigod) and more like a 16 (?) years old girl

can you imagine that even if you have a great parents but you never have their attention?
I'll do the same thing as Piper...
everyone says that she's lucky... too perfect yet have too many f..."
It wasn't that bad stealing for attention, I guess. I just wish she tried to get his attention some other way, like being very good at a sport,or very smart academically and getting awards for that, instead of doing it in a more negative way.

can you imagine that even if you have a great parents but you never have their attention?
I'll do the same thing as Piper...
everyone says that she's lucky... too perf..."
hm... well... it's her choice...
but i still like her...
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Your opinion.


good point

so... a little naughty is fine...
rather than you do it when you're an adult

It is better to do it now than latter for sure, but I'm just saying stealing cars at age 15 wouldn't help her at all when she is older and trying to get a job.

she didn't stole it... she just borrowed it.. for a while...
she didn't have any intention to stole a car... knowing that she's rich


She didn't need to steal the car. She stole it for attention, but as I have already said, that was the most smart thing to do, because that would affect her future life in a bad way.
Her dad also wasn't ignoring her, he just didn't have time for her.
And yes, steal somewhat means borrow.
(Sorry I'm annoyed because i think I've said some of this before.)



That's the thing, it's way to easy. Usually in books there's always another love interest that intervenes.
Personally, Piper seemed more real to me when she hugged Leo when he came back with from the fish camp.

That's the thing, it's way to easy. Usually in books there's always another love interest that intervenes.
Personally, Piper seemed more real to me when she hugged Leo when he came back with from the fish camp.

1. I am not a dofus.
2. Who cares if she knew it by then or not, it was still charmspeaking.
3. She still didn't break in and grab it while no one was looking. She asked for it and he gave it to her.

1. I am not a dofus.
2. Who cares if she knew it by then or not, it was still charmspeaking.
3. She still didn't break in and grab it while..."
who cares? btw it wasn't about her stealing it was about her trying to get her fathers attention back to her and to get him to hang with her again
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