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Piper or Reyna ? Who should Jason choose?

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message 1151: by Jannie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jannie Huang Piper! Okay it's because Reyna doesn't do anything that pleases me. Why couldn't she just scream in Octavian's face and says he wrong. I mean COME ON! I got super angry at that! >:(


GreatScottland Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows that her mom might be manipulating Jas..."

Have you read Mark of Athena? On page 152 it said "Piper looked up at the clouds and wondered if her mother, Aphrodite,was somehow influencing him. His apology seemed to good to be true.
But don't stop, she thought.

Aphrodite might not be, but Piper doesn't really seem to care, in fact she is even encouraging it.


message 1153: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows that her mom might be man..."


"Dont stop" was directed towards Jason


message 1154: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 05, 2012 01:35PM) (new)

Leah wrote: "GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows th..."


er...sorry but i don't see how that is pointed towards jason...

( i'm just a bit confused by that...hence my butting in your convo with GreatScottland/TheEmoQueen/Nancy etc)

then again...if your saying that piper means that jason shouldn't stop the apology that seems to good to be true; directly after saying that her mother may somehow be influencing him, it still infers that piper is encouraging her mother...because hse is basically saying that the 'too good to be true apology' is a result of her mother's influence...regardless of how it is taken.

just my 2 cents added...


message 1155: by Caspian (new) - rated it 5 stars

Caspian acly nope jason chooses a himself he grouse two heads dun dun dun no just midden defflitly but i agree with kimber piper kind of does disust and annoys me so i dont know piper did do some cool stuff... hhhmmm hmm i dont know rewna i will just stick with rena or whatever i havvent read the last book


GreatScottland rawr the dinosaur wrote: "Leah wrote: "GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

P..."


Agreed.


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message 1159: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy I♥Rock*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows that her mom might be manipulating Jason's feelings but she doesn't care..."

Jason does care for her but I think he cares for her as muh because he's under the influence.


message 1160: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows that her mom might be man..."


She wondered if her mom was influencing. Yes, she wondered if Venus was influencing. Influencing is still influencing.


message 1161: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows that her mom might be manipulating Jas..."


Didn't you hear her talk about how her relationship with Jason is now real? Piper wondered if her mom is influencing the relationship.


message 1162: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Nancy wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows that her mom might be man..."


She wonders. She doesn't get down on her knees and beg her mother to make her otherwise awful relationship with her boyfriend better.


message 1163: by Lynne (new)

Lynne Jason and piper all the way! I know piper can be annoying sometimes, but i remember feeling that way towards annabeth too at some points (esp. when she was all over Luke). But I love Percy and annabeth together, the same way I like Jason and piper together. They're just really cute!! But I'm secretly hoping Leo and reyna will get together. Both of them are lonely, and I think they compliment each other. Reyna's too serious and Leo can be too exuberant. When they get together, voila! Balance!


GreatScottland Leah wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows that her mo..."


No, but why would she do that? Right in front Jason? That would be kinda creepy, so of course she wouldn't beg her mom. If Pipers tough, why would she beg her mom to help her with her relationship? There isn't a logical reason to why she would beg her mom for help.

What I'm trying to say is that she wouldn't do that, so saying she could have done something worse when it isn't logical doesn't work at all. What she did was basically the worse thing she could have done. She basically said,"Mom, if your influencing Jason, keep on doing it!"
And her relationship with Jason isn't awful, at least for her side of the relationship, but for everyone else...


message 1165: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy Leah wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper knows that her mo..."


Okay? I didn't say that Piper did that.


GreatScottland I was talking to Leah, not you.


message 1167: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy GreatScottland wrote: "Leah wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Leah wrote: "TheEmoQueen*I walk alone* wrote: "Nancy wrote: "TheEmoQueen wrote: "Jason might be getting manipulated by Aphrodite into loving Piper, who knows"

Piper know..."


Leo feels left out. I find that to be messed up. They can at least include him in some activities with them.

She was thinking that in front of Jason. When Jason blowed his candles Piper wished he wished that they can be together forever. That's creepy.


message 1168: by [deleted user] (new)

yeah it's pathetic and selfish if you ask me, seriously sometimes I wonder if Piper gives a damn about anything else besides her relationship with Jason


GreatScottland (Leo feels left out. I find that to be messed up. They can at least include him in some activities with them.

She was thinking that in front of Jason. When Jason blowed his candles Piper wished he wished that they can be together forever. That's creepy. )

I wish Piper would start thinking about Leo more. Both of the them(Leo and Piper) never considered what their relationship was before their memories got messed up when Jason appeared.


message 1170: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 09, 2012 07:07AM) (new)

GreatScottland wrote: "(Leo feels left out. I find that to be messed up. They can at least include him in some activities with them.

She was thinking that in front of Jason. When Jason blowed his candles Piper wished he..."


' wish Piper would start thinking about Leo more. Both of the them(Leo and Piper) never considered what their relationship was before their memories got messed up when Jason appeared.'

i agree with that. before knowing that they were children of gods, that they had speacial powers; and even though they both did get in trouble (leo setting things afire piper borrowing BMW), leo was her friend and piper was his and it rarely feels as though that little fact is acknowlegded.


GreatScottland (i agree with that. before knowing that they were children of gods, that they had speacial powers; and even though they both did get in trouble (leo setting things afire piper borrowing BMW), leo was her friend and piper was his and it rarely feels as though that little fact is acknowlegded. 0
I never thought about it that way but it is an interesting thought. It wasn't friendship because your hot or have cool powers, and it wasn't there because you are on a quest with me, which is what it seemed like in TLH. It was pure friendship, stronger than Piper and Jason, yet they treat it like it never happened and that theirs is stronger.


message 1172: by Alyssa (new) - rated it 5 stars

Alyssa I'm not really sure. Reyna and Jason have been with each other longer but although Piper and Jason have been on the least adventures possible they had the most dangerous one (right???)


GreatScottland Alyssa wrote: "I'm not really sure. Reyna and Jason have been with each other longer but although Piper and Jason have been on the least adventures possible they had the most dangerous one (right???)"

I kind of doubt it, I don't think they did a lot of dangerous stuff, but we don't really know what Jason and Reyna did either on their quests.


message 1174: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Well Jason wants Piper, so Piper.


GreatScottland Leah wrote: "Well Jason wants Piper, so Piper."

We don't know if Jason wants Piper. In the lost hero, its implied that he likes Piper and doesn't want to hurt her feelings. In Mark of Athena we don't see his point of view, so we can only guess what is going on in his head.
Plus, Jason doesn't just want Piper(or used to, at least).


message 1176: by Jessica (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jessica Sometime I wonder if we are reading the same book. Jason do say on his piknik with Piper that he is not stupid enough to break up with Piper. Jason also says that Piper encourages him to be a better person and do the right thing, that he would not had dare to do the right thing in the Herkules situation without her.

Isn't it strange that Jason ask Piper to talk to Reyna in TMoA, even suggesting sharmspeak? If Jason and Reyna were so close friends why don't he talk to her himself? But then again if Jason and Reyna were really close, why do he feels so lonely (he express it through TLH). The loneliness didn't come from his amnesia. It was already there. He would not have felt so lonely if he had someone he really could talk to in camp Jupiter.

It is not about who is best between Reyna and Piper, is about who suits Jason best (two different questions). I think Piper suits Jason better than Reyna.


message 1177: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino if we have a polling in this discussion who will win?


message 1178: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy Jessica wrote: "Sometime I wonder if we are reading the same book. Jason do say on his piknik with Piper that he is not stupid enough to break up with Piper. Jason also says that Piper encourages him to be a bette..."

I'm not so sure if Piper actually helps him to be a better person. Jason already had a sense of duty and justice; he's already more or less a good person.

Jason was his past and it would feel awkward for him to talk to her again. Personally, I think Jason tries to run away from his problems so he told Piper to talk to Reyna.

Once again, it would be an awkward conversation. Reyna will probably be straight forward with him and tell him that he's changed and that's probably something he doesn't want to hear.

Well, could t be that he was actually alone. He didn't have the Romans with him, he was surrounded by Greeks.

He has Dakota, Bobby, Gwen and Reyna. But, I guess he didn't talk to them about that.

Nah, I still think Reyna suits him better.


message 1179: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy Echizen_kirino wrote: "if we have a polling in this discussion who will win?"

Mmm...I don't know.


Stephanie Robles I actually would like to change my opinion on who should Jason pick. The first time I commented, I said he should pick Piper because Reyna was too serious and Piper was on the bus with him when they first met. I realize that yes, Hera was messing with him, and that the reasons I posted weren't very fair. After re-reading TLH and SON, I have to admit, I like Reyna a lot better now. In my opinion, Jason should pick Reyna because first of all, I think they made Piper way too perfect. She is not only a daughter of Aphrodite, but she also a daughter of a movie star, and yet, is asking for attention by stealing a BMW? Pretty spoiled if you ask me. Meanwhile, Reyna is left alone with no one. I have to admit, I would like Leo and Reyna together, but we all know that that probably wouldn't happen. Piper's also kind of annoying to me.


message 1181: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino eto...
can you imagine that even if you have a great parents but you never have their attention?
I'll do the same thing as Piper...
everyone says that she's lucky... too perfect yet have too many flaws....
but that's what make her character more real... more... human (even though she's a demigod) and more like a 16 (?) years old girl


GreatScottland Echizen_kirino wrote: "eto...
can you imagine that even if you have a great parents but you never have their attention?
I'll do the same thing as Piper...
everyone says that she's lucky... too perfect yet have too many f..."


It wasn't that bad stealing for attention, I guess. I just wish she tried to get his attention some other way, like being very good at a sport,or very smart academically and getting awards for that, instead of doing it in a more negative way.


message 1183: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino GreatScottland wrote: "Echizen_kirino wrote: "eto...
can you imagine that even if you have a great parents but you never have their attention?
I'll do the same thing as Piper...
everyone says that she's lucky... too perf..."


hm... well... it's her choice...
but i still like her...
suki da~


GreatScottland sure, but what about when she grows up? She would probably have a tough time getting a job .
Your opinion.


message 1185: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino nah... she will change when she grow up...


GreatScottland She is 15. In three years she will be considered an adult. In a way she is grown up, so people might considered her mature enough to know better than to commit those crimes. Even if she does stop stealing, it probably will affect the way people treat her.


message 1187: by Olivia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Olivia Parsons Obviously Piper


message 1188: by Julia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julia GreatScottland wrote: "She is 15. In three years she will be considered an adult. In a way she is grown up, so people might considered her mature enough to know better than to commit those crimes. Even if she does stop s..."
good point


message 1189: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino but... 15 is when we're in our rebelious age...
so... a little naughty is fine...
rather than you do it when you're an adult


message 1190: by GreatScottland (last edited Dec 21, 2012 11:57PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

GreatScottland a little naughty? She stole a car, and i don't think that is a little naughty.
It is better to do it now than latter for sure, but I'm just saying stealing cars at age 15 wouldn't help her at all when she is older and trying to get a job.


message 1191: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino hm... if remember...
she didn't stole it... she just borrowed it.. for a while...
she didn't have any intention to stole a car... knowing that she's rich


message 1192: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah She 'stole' the car to get her dad's attention because he was ignoring her! Also, she didn't steal it, she charmspoke the car dealer into giving it to her. You guys are missing the whole point.


GreatScottland I know she borrowed it, but she knew people would think that was stealing instead because they wouldn't believe they had been charmspeaked into letting her borrow it, and call it stealing instead.
She didn't need to steal the car. She stole it for attention, but as I have already said, that was the most smart thing to do, because that would affect her future life in a bad way.
Her dad also wasn't ignoring her, he just didn't have time for her.
And yes, steal somewhat means borrow.
(Sorry I'm annoyed because i think I've said some of this before.)


message 1194: by Julia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julia you dofus she didn't know about it then


message 1195: by BookScavenger (new)

BookScavenger Dude, Piper hands down. And the way the author's written it, he is obviously making it easy for Jason to pick Piper, too.


getchristylove Am I missing something here? Why is this question posted in 'The Son of Neptune' thread? In Neptune, no choice for Jason exists yet. I haven't read 'Mark of Athena' yet so I'll assume that in Athena the choice between Reyna and Piper finally presents itself


message 1197: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy Tnguy wrote: "Dude, Piper hands down. And the way the author's written it, he is obviously making it easy for Jason to pick Piper, too."

That's the thing, it's way to easy. Usually in books there's always another love interest that intervenes.

Personally, Piper seemed more real to me when she hugged Leo when he came back with from the fish camp.


message 1198: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy Tnguy wrote: "Dude, Piper hands down. And the way the author's written it, he is obviously making it easy for Jason to pick Piper, too."

That's the thing, it's way to easy. Usually in books there's always another love interest that intervenes.

Personally, Piper seemed more real to me when she hugged Leo when he came back with from the fish camp.


message 1199: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Julia wrote: "you dofus she didn't know about it then"

1. I am not a dofus.

2. Who cares if she knew it by then or not, it was still charmspeaking.

3. She still didn't break in and grab it while no one was looking. She asked for it and he gave it to her.


message 1200: by Julia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julia Leah wrote: "Julia wrote: "you dofus she didn't know about it then"

1. I am not a dofus.

2. Who cares if she knew it by then or not, it was still charmspeaking.

3. She still didn't break in and grab it while..."

who cares? btw it wasn't about her stealing it was about her trying to get her fathers attention back to her and to get him to hang with her again


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