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Piper or Reyna ? Who should Jason choose?

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message 1001: by Rachel (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rachel I think Piper and Jason will end up together, when they first met he didn't remember anything but he got pretty much all of his memories back and still chose her. Also remember that Reyna tried to make a move on Percy when he was in the Roman camp. I don't think she would do that if her and Jason's relationship was serious at all. I'm not a huge fan of Piper but I still think her and Jason will end up together.


message 1002: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino Rachel wrote: "I think Piper and Jason will end up together, when they first met he didn't remember anything but he got pretty much all of his memories back and still chose her. Also remember that Reyna tried to ..."

and then someone will say
"that's because Reyna was in a urgent situation... she had to do that or else octavian will become the praetor... she prefered percy than that descendant of apollo..."
and we will go in circle...
hehe~ no offense though


message 1003: by Citlaly (new) - added it

Citlaly Lau wrote: "I agree with u....BUT ....wont Reyna stab her or something and then we would NEVER see Piper again....[CREEPY LAUGH]WA HA HA"

HAHA!!!


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Citlaly April wrote: "Either one of them are awesome! I especially like Reyna!"

i agree!!!!!!!!!!!!


message 1005: by Katelyn (new) - rated it 5 stars

Katelyn Excuse, me, but I think Piper is slightly annoying, but I really do think she is good for Jason. Reyna is a little too demanding and forceful, if you get what I mean.


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Echizen_kirino wrote: "nya~
even though piper is annoying i still like her...
so i want to give my opinion as well
if we're talking about love here... piper won't lose to reyna just because Jason had a long history (as f..."


Um, no. If Percy remembered Annabeth because he loved her, then what about his mother? Is RR trying to say that you should love your girlfriend more than the person who's raised you and loved you since the day you were born?

A better theory would be because Annabeth was Percy's mortal point, he couldn't forget her.

Or maybe Juno left him the memory of Annabeth to guide him just like the memory of Thalia guided Jason.


message 1007: by [deleted user] (last edited Oct 20, 2012 05:04PM) (new)

GreatScottland wrote: "I hated how Jason was like, Piper, I think Greeks like you are better than Romans like Reyna, though I've grown up there since I was two!
So he is basically saying Romans are horrible, though he's..."


yep, thats what annoyed me to.


i have a question

please note: one is from the information from MoA, with the possibility of aphrodite interfering. i really don't want to know anything abt
TLH, simply because we've moved pass that and can now discuss MoA. (provided you've read it, if you have not...just ignore)

explaination/situation 1:

if jason is not being influenced by aphrodite, it means that; he is truely not a roman, since in MoA, he clearly did not put duty above everything else ( i'm referring to his fight with the giant, where he simply forgets the giant to rush to piper's side. . jason could have died, therefore, resulting in an advantage for the giants.) romans are military focused, duty is very important.

it also means that he is an grateful...person, since he pretty much didn't care for the romans when he arrived home; his major concern being to show piper new rome.

explaination/situation 2 :

if jason is being influenced by aphrodite, it means :

1)he doesn't have a choice, therefore it's not really love.
2)piper doesn't really care about him, because she only cares that she wants him to be with her; regardless of where he wants that. if she did care/love him, she wouldn't have asked her mother 'not to stop' (or whatever her exact words were); because she would have wanted him to make his own choice.


so which is it? is it that jason/piper is true and that jason isn't a true roman, and is ungrateful OR is it that piper/jason is false?


message 1008: by lia (new)

lia piper. jason and reyna were just friends.
i know im probably gonna get a lot of hate for saying this but...reyna kinda came across as bitch.
guess she has reasons.
but then she tried to get percy too...thats not cool


message 1009: by Seaweed (new)

Seaweed _brain REYNA ITS LIKE SAYING JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW ANNABETH YOU WOULD SOMEONE ELSE OVER HER!yOU DONT EVEN KNOW! WHAT JASON AND REYNA HAVE BEEN THROUGH TOGETHR


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GreatScottland wrote: "rawr the dinosaur wrote: "pretty obvious jason choose piper? with aphrodite most likely interfering and without jason's pov?"


I really hope this is the case, and maybe for a punishment, Jason will ..."



as u mention that myth, i remembered that in MoA, the part with the bullheaded guy, can't remember the exact scene etc., but his story seemed similar to the piper/jason/reyna thing. er..i'll look for it and tell you lol.

@ naomi

honestly?

piper is a selfish brat, reyna is a bitch; but she is not selfish and she is fair. is piper fair? not that i know of.

therefore, to each her/his own type of bitch.

btw: i really hate/am tired that flirting thing, it's probably the worst use defense for piper supporters/lovers.{ yeah this was why i bothered responding, i'm serious abt that first part lol }


message 1011: by Kasey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kasey Williams Piper!?!?! They are like meant to be!!!! I will be soooooo ngry if he chooses Reyna, she acts to much ike a parent ya know? SO, like them together would just be..... *shivers* She would be like a couger...


message 1012: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino this endless argument reminds me of aerith/cloud/tifa from final fantasy vii...


message 1013: by lia (last edited Oct 21, 2012 05:23PM) (new)

lia rawr the dinosaur wrote: "GreatScottland wrote: "rawr the dinosaur wrote: "pretty obvious jason choose piper? with aphrodite most likely interfering and without jason's pov?"


I really hope this is the case, and maybe for ..."


really? if reyna really liked jason why would she be coming on to percy? thats why i dont like Jayna. at least jason had a sense of guilt with piper, even though he was never with reyna.


message 1014: by [deleted user] (new)

read MoA? it's pretty obvious there...


message 1015: by lia (new)

lia i havent actually had a chance to read it yet. But in tLH she wasnt.


message 1016: by [deleted user] (new)

in thl, you don't see it much, because piper is seen as the neglected daugther. but tristan wasn't the only one responsible for that relationship. piper was 50% responsible for what happen to that relationship, but that has never been acknowledge by her, why? because she didn't get attention, and therefore ppl relate and sympatize ( spelt that wrong, sorry) with her.

but with regards to the BMW incident, even if tristan was to busy for her, piper can make up her own mind, and she would have had choices. what was her choice? to do something she knew would hurt her dad, why? for attention.

IMO, regardless of how little attention if given, hurting someone you love for attention is selfish.

also, personally, that last part in THL, where she 'claims' jason or whatever, IMO, it is similar to a politian who realizes how much power he has, and instead of helping ppl, he takes what he wants.
piper only partially realizes how much power she has, and she sets sight on what she considers the biggest prize: jason. regardless of his past life.

yes, in SoN, it is seen that reyna and jason didn't date, yet piper didn't know that, she simply wanted him, because of what the mist showed her.


message 1017: by [deleted user] (new)

*what I mean by jason's past life is the memories hera took from him


TheOriginalNikeGirl piper, duh. Reyna will just end up cold and alone, which is sad for her.
or, maybe...!
(I just had an idea.)
Reyna+Leo


message 1019: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino "no breakups" he promised
"I may have busted my head a few times, but I'm not that stupid"

XD


message 1020: by [deleted user] (new)

and still, the question is, is aphrodite influencing him or not? we'll only know when we get his POV...


message 1021: by [deleted user] (new)

@ naomi

abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...

we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?

also, when percy refused her, she did not , from his pov, appear broken hearted or whatever, therefore, how could there have been any real attraction on reyna's behalf if she wasn't brokenhearted/ sadden whatever you want to call it

and, lets see, reyna had a very good reason to hate percy, yet she put that aside and flirted with him to tempt him into accepting leadership? why? because 1) camp jupiter is in trouble, that giant is coming. 2) she needs help to protect and rule her home, you know after loosing her first home, it would have been downright scary to loose her second one 3)octavian the power hungry teddy killer.

hating a character for something they did, when they had really good reasons for it, does not make sense.

and btw, at the end of SoN, reyna says jason's name wistfully or whatever word was used. do u know what dat means? it means that she did hv feelings for him, because the uptight 'bitch' wouldn't. have done that for anyone, and she didn't do it for percy.

in fact , the first time she saw him in SoN she looked like she wanted to kill him...percy's words not mine.

also, ( yes this post is long, but points are popping in randomly) percy, the clueless one, picked up on her feelings for jason. he did ask her if they were involved. hmm...wonder what that could infer.


also, in TLH, piper did have to act flirty with with koline's brothers or whatever they were to koline. piper didn't want to do that, yet she had to. so why is it so different when reyna did it?


message 1022: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino but... if i remeber correctly... when aphrodite invited the girls to the tea party
it seemed that aphrodite wasn't interested in Jason/Piper relationship anymore since they're already an item...
so i doubt aphrodite have some influence for this pair


message 1023: by [deleted user] (new)

or maybe at that point in time she wasn't interested, because in MoA, piper/ jason/reyna relationship wasn't a large part.

the two relationships that were important/prominet were annabeth and percy, & hazel leo and frank.

why? because annabeth had that quest to do on her own, and percy was very likely to not let her do it on her own cause his flaw is that he is loyal to a fault. and they were separated for a long time.

hazel,frank and leo, all of then were on the quest, so it would be awkward for RR to build up a possible triangle and not point it out. also, he did hv to explain why hazel knew leo.

reyna simply wasn't in MoA enough for there to be any importance on that triangle. so why would any importance be placed on. it by aphrodite? why would she want to ruin a 'possibly entertaining' surprise? she has two other romances to manipulate.


also there is a site, based on MoA which states that piper has to find out whether or not the blessings of aphrodite are good. imo, the only blessings that could be would be what piper suspected, ie aphrodite interfering. if you want i'll find it for you...tmw :p


message 1024: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino i want to see a battle between Piper and Reyna... fair and square!
Piper may be weaker than Reyna... but i bet she will do anything in her power to win Jason's affection (even though she had that already)
that will be hilarious!
XD


message 1025: by Rachel (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rachel Lol yes that would be funny!Also on another point if aphrodite was meddling in their relationship at the beginning and isn't now do you think that their relationship is real? I think even without aphrodite Jason and Piper would have ended up together. I kind of hope that love triangle gets some attention in the next book, it would make it very interesting! I still think that in the end Piper will end up with Jason even though I'm probably more a fan of Reyna I think Reyna will end up with some other really nice guy (Leo?) who is awesome :)


message 1026: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino Rachel wrote: "Lol yes that would be funny!Also on another point if aphrodite was meddling in their relationship at the beginning and isn't now do you think that their relationship is real? I think even without a..."

i totally agree!... Reyna is better with someone who is refreshing like Leo!
but... i doubt they will be paired up since Leo's reaction when he met Reyna is dull... he focused more to Hazel...
they're cute... Leo/Hazel... but i like Frank more... that big-teddy-bear-guy is adorable beyond words!
some people suggest Nico though...

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message 1027: by J.C. (new) - rated it 5 stars

J.C. Piper! I'm not saying Reyna wasn't cool but I just don't see her with Jason. He's taken now anyways so she'll just have to get over him.


message 1028: by Rachel (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rachel Echizen_kirino wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Lol yes that would be funny!Also on another point if aphrodite was meddling in their relationship at the beginning and isn't now do you think that their relationship is real? I think..."

I never thought of Nico! That does kind of make sense..... Yeah I like Hazel/Frank and I think it would be a bit wierd between Hazel/Leo because of the whole Sammy thing.


GreatScottland Reyna was kicked out of the picture way to fast...


message 1030: by Nancy (last edited Oct 22, 2012 05:07PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy GreatScottland wrote: "Reyna was kicked out of the picture way to fast..."

You never Reyna may still be in the picture in HoH.


message 1031: by Nancy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Nancy Echizen_kirino wrote: ""no breakups" he promised
"I may have busted my head a few times, but I'm not that stupid"

XD"


Can you clarify? RR said no break ups?


message 1032: by Citlaly (new) - added it

Citlaly Kasey wrote: "Piper!?!?! They are like meant to be!!!! I will be soooooo ngry if he chooses Reyna, she acts to much ike a parent ya know? SO, like them together would just be..... *shivers* She would be like a c..."
haha but I agree!!!!!


message 1033: by Citlaly (new) - added it

Citlaly Valerie wrote: "PIPER! I like Piper plus I enjoying seeing Reyna jealous lol"

hahah!!!!


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Echizen_kirino wrote: "i want to see a battle between Piper and Reyna... fair and square!
Piper may be weaker than Reyna... but i bet she will do anything in her power to win Jason's affection (even though she had that a..."


so would i, esp. since 1) reyna is aware that piper words has some sort of power 2) when they were attacked by the romans, octavian was wearing earplugs because it was something the romans did when they went into battle. he couldn't hear them, therefore he couldn't be charmspoken...therefore, reyna being roman, would most likely wear earplugs.


GreatScottland It would be nice if Reyna and Piper fought, but I hope Reyna would be reasonable enough to not fight Piper unless Piper was asking for it.

I really hope Reyna gets a point of view in HoH, but with how HoO is going, RR might make Reyna look bad, or worse.

(Sorry if you are one) but some people hate how Piper and Annabeth felt pity for Reyna and did nothing. But what about Percy, the only one close enough to her who never mentioned her at all? Or Jason who treated her horribly? I'm just trying to say that at least they felt pity for her, rather than nothing.

Another thing is that they were limited to what they could do. They couldn't stop Leo from attacking Rome and Rome going to war. It would have been hard to help Reyna while she tried to stop the Romans from attacking Camp Half blood. I just think that she has to put up with angry Romans and is going through more than the seven, who put up with weak giants, and the seven don't even THINK about her. But Katropis keeps showing pictures of the Romans, so there might be importance there.


message 1036: by Sam (new) - rated it 4 stars

Sam Piper!!!


message 1037: by Jose (new) - added it

Jose Well I mean in The Mark of Athena Jason chose Piper over Reyna. He was actually completely oblivious to the fact that Reyna even liked him. However, if this were my personal choice I still would agree with what the book had planned out because Reyna and Jason never had a real relationship. If they did I'm sure Hera would have left him with some memory like he did with Percy... Unless she did that on purpose since she hates children of Zeus...


message 1038: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino Nancy wrote: "Echizen_kirino wrote: ""no breakups" he promised
"I may have busted my head a few times, but I'm not that stupid"

XD"

Can you clarify? RR said no break ups?"


um... i didn't mean it like that...
I wasn't clarifying anything...
i just like those words... when jason said that to piper, it was just so sweet~
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message 1039: by lia (last edited Oct 23, 2012 04:12PM) (new)

lia rawr the dinosaur wrote: "@ naomi

abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...

we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?

also, when percy refused her, she did not , from his pov, appea..."


i never said i hated her. shes an intresting character and i want to get to know her a bit better. even if she is a bitch, like i said she has reasons for it. i just dont like her and jason together.


Yazid (Ciel) I like Hazel more than Piper... but Jason should choose Reyna. Yes, I mean it. Piper should choose that guy in her cabin who said, "'Scuse me," and I love him suddenly. He's in that cabin, so he should be handsome and he's one of earliest person Piper had ever make a conversation in the cabin.


message 1041: by Echizen_kirino (last edited Oct 24, 2012 03:43AM) (new)

Echizen_kirino Yazid wrote: "I like Hazel more than Piper... but Jason should choose Reyna. Yes, I mean it. Piper should choose that guy in her cabin who said, "'Scuse me," and I love him suddenly. He's in that cabin, so he sh..."




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in her cabin?
you don't mean aphrodite cabin, do you?
because wouldn't that be a taboo?
since they're half siblings...


Yazid (Ciel) O.o"""" Really? Oh god, handsome guys can easily be found there.


GreatScottland Personally, I think Piper is realistic, but how everyone else reacts to her is not. Jason, Leo, Aphrodite's cabin, Jasper fan girls, is unrealistic. She's an okay person, but she isn't as great as everyone thinks.


Yazid (Ciel) GreatScottland wrote: "Personally, I think Piper is realistic, but how everyone else reacts to her is not. Jason, Leo, Aphrodite's cabin, Jasper fan girls, is unrealistic. She's an okay person, but she isn't as great as ..."

Oh in desperate moments, she's great. Others, she's okay. Her power? Amazing. Appearance: Beautiful. Relationship with Jason: Not really likeable.


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hello people, EmoQueen here(my real name's Chloe btw) so wassup, anybody miss me? lol


Yazid (Ciel) *relieve* I thought you're going to argue with me again. Glad it's not happening. Are you and Janelle live in the same area?


message 1047: by Echizen_kirino (last edited Oct 26, 2012 02:09AM) (new)

Echizen_kirino so... i'm not realistic? just because i like JasPer i become unrealistic...
great!


Yazid (Ciel) Echizen_kirino wrote: "so... i'm not realistic? just because i like JasPer i become unrealistic...
great!"


Whoa relax milady! I respect your opinion! :p


message 1049: by [deleted user] (new)

Naomi wrote: "rawr the dinosaur wrote: "@ naomi

abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...

we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?

also, when percy refused her, she did..."


whoops, sorry :)


message 1050: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino Yazid wrote: "Echizen_kirino wrote: "so... i'm not realistic? just because i like JasPer i become unrealistic...
great!"

Whoa relax milady! I respect your opinion! :p"


i'm relaxing... don't worry!
i'm happy actually to hear everyone's opinions and theories... because sometimes they're so true i found myself became worried about what would happen next...
ehehe~
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