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Piper or Reyna ? Who should Jason choose?
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and then someone will say
"that's because Reyna was in a urgent situation... she had to do that or else octavian will become the praetor... she prefered percy than that descendant of apollo..."
and we will go in circle...
hehe~ no offense though

HAHA!!!

Echizen_kirino wrote: "nya~
even though piper is annoying i still like her...
so i want to give my opinion as well
if we're talking about love here... piper won't lose to reyna just because Jason had a long history (as f..."
Um, no. If Percy remembered Annabeth because he loved her, then what about his mother? Is RR trying to say that you should love your girlfriend more than the person who's raised you and loved you since the day you were born?
A better theory would be because Annabeth was Percy's mortal point, he couldn't forget her.
Or maybe Juno left him the memory of Annabeth to guide him just like the memory of Thalia guided Jason.
even though piper is annoying i still like her...
so i want to give my opinion as well
if we're talking about love here... piper won't lose to reyna just because Jason had a long history (as f..."
Um, no. If Percy remembered Annabeth because he loved her, then what about his mother? Is RR trying to say that you should love your girlfriend more than the person who's raised you and loved you since the day you were born?
A better theory would be because Annabeth was Percy's mortal point, he couldn't forget her.
Or maybe Juno left him the memory of Annabeth to guide him just like the memory of Thalia guided Jason.
GreatScottland wrote: "I hated how Jason was like, Piper, I think Greeks like you are better than Romans like Reyna, though I've grown up there since I was two!
So he is basically saying Romans are horrible, though he's..."
yep, thats what annoyed me to.
i have a question
please note: one is from the information from MoA, with the possibility of aphrodite interfering. i really don't want to know anything abt
TLH, simply because we've moved pass that and can now discuss MoA. (provided you've read it, if you have not...just ignore)
explaination/situation 1:
if jason is not being influenced by aphrodite, it means that; he is truely not a roman, since in MoA, he clearly did not put duty above everything else ( i'm referring to his fight with the giant, where he simply forgets the giant to rush to piper's side. . jason could have died, therefore, resulting in an advantage for the giants.) romans are military focused, duty is very important.
it also means that he is an grateful...person, since he pretty much didn't care for the romans when he arrived home; his major concern being to show piper new rome.
explaination/situation 2 :
if jason is being influenced by aphrodite, it means :
1)he doesn't have a choice, therefore it's not really love.
2)piper doesn't really care about him, because she only cares that she wants him to be with her; regardless of where he wants that. if she did care/love him, she wouldn't have asked her mother 'not to stop' (or whatever her exact words were); because she would have wanted him to make his own choice.
so which is it? is it that jason/piper is true and that jason isn't a true roman, and is ungrateful OR is it that piper/jason is false?
So he is basically saying Romans are horrible, though he's..."
yep, thats what annoyed me to.
i have a question
please note: one is from the information from MoA, with the possibility of aphrodite interfering. i really don't want to know anything abt
TLH, simply because we've moved pass that and can now discuss MoA. (provided you've read it, if you have not...just ignore)
explaination/situation 1:
if jason is not being influenced by aphrodite, it means that; he is truely not a roman, since in MoA, he clearly did not put duty above everything else ( i'm referring to his fight with the giant, where he simply forgets the giant to rush to piper's side. . jason could have died, therefore, resulting in an advantage for the giants.) romans are military focused, duty is very important.
it also means that he is an grateful...person, since he pretty much didn't care for the romans when he arrived home; his major concern being to show piper new rome.
explaination/situation 2 :
if jason is being influenced by aphrodite, it means :
1)he doesn't have a choice, therefore it's not really love.
2)piper doesn't really care about him, because she only cares that she wants him to be with her; regardless of where he wants that. if she did care/love him, she wouldn't have asked her mother 'not to stop' (or whatever her exact words were); because she would have wanted him to make his own choice.
so which is it? is it that jason/piper is true and that jason isn't a true roman, and is ungrateful OR is it that piper/jason is false?

i know im probably gonna get a lot of hate for saying this but...reyna kinda came across as bitch.
guess she has reasons.
but then she tried to get percy too...thats not cool

GreatScottland wrote: "rawr the dinosaur wrote: "pretty obvious jason choose piper? with aphrodite most likely interfering and without jason's pov?"
I really hope this is the case, and maybe for a punishment, Jason will ..."
as u mention that myth, i remembered that in MoA, the part with the bullheaded guy, can't remember the exact scene etc., but his story seemed similar to the piper/jason/reyna thing. er..i'll look for it and tell you lol.
@ naomi
honestly?
piper is a selfish brat, reyna is a bitch; but she is not selfish and she is fair. is piper fair? not that i know of.
therefore, to each her/his own type of bitch.
btw: i really hate/am tired that flirting thing, it's probably the worst use defense for piper supporters/lovers.{ yeah this was why i bothered responding, i'm serious abt that first part lol }
I really hope this is the case, and maybe for a punishment, Jason will ..."
as u mention that myth, i remembered that in MoA, the part with the bullheaded guy, can't remember the exact scene etc., but his story seemed similar to the piper/jason/reyna thing. er..i'll look for it and tell you lol.
@ naomi
honestly?
piper is a selfish brat, reyna is a bitch; but she is not selfish and she is fair. is piper fair? not that i know of.
therefore, to each her/his own type of bitch.
btw: i really hate/am tired that flirting thing, it's probably the worst use defense for piper supporters/lovers.{ yeah this was why i bothered responding, i'm serious abt that first part lol }


I really hope this is the case, and maybe for ..."
really? if reyna really liked jason why would she be coming on to percy? thats why i dont like Jayna. at least jason had a sense of guilt with piper, even though he was never with reyna.
read MoA? it's pretty obvious there...
in thl, you don't see it much, because piper is seen as the neglected daugther. but tristan wasn't the only one responsible for that relationship. piper was 50% responsible for what happen to that relationship, but that has never been acknowledge by her, why? because she didn't get attention, and therefore ppl relate and sympatize ( spelt that wrong, sorry) with her.
but with regards to the BMW incident, even if tristan was to busy for her, piper can make up her own mind, and she would have had choices. what was her choice? to do something she knew would hurt her dad, why? for attention.
IMO, regardless of how little attention if given, hurting someone you love for attention is selfish.
also, personally, that last part in THL, where she 'claims' jason or whatever, IMO, it is similar to a politian who realizes how much power he has, and instead of helping ppl, he takes what he wants.
piper only partially realizes how much power she has, and she sets sight on what she considers the biggest prize: jason. regardless of his past life.
yes, in SoN, it is seen that reyna and jason didn't date, yet piper didn't know that, she simply wanted him, because of what the mist showed her.
but with regards to the BMW incident, even if tristan was to busy for her, piper can make up her own mind, and she would have had choices. what was her choice? to do something she knew would hurt her dad, why? for attention.
IMO, regardless of how little attention if given, hurting someone you love for attention is selfish.
also, personally, that last part in THL, where she 'claims' jason or whatever, IMO, it is similar to a politian who realizes how much power he has, and instead of helping ppl, he takes what he wants.
piper only partially realizes how much power she has, and she sets sight on what she considers the biggest prize: jason. regardless of his past life.
yes, in SoN, it is seen that reyna and jason didn't date, yet piper didn't know that, she simply wanted him, because of what the mist showed her.
*what I mean by jason's past life is the memories hera took from him

or, maybe...!
(I just had an idea.)
Reyna+Leo
and still, the question is, is aphrodite influencing him or not? we'll only know when we get his POV...
@ naomi
abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...
we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?
also, when percy refused her, she did not , from his pov, appear broken hearted or whatever, therefore, how could there have been any real attraction on reyna's behalf if she wasn't brokenhearted/ sadden whatever you want to call it
and, lets see, reyna had a very good reason to hate percy, yet she put that aside and flirted with him to tempt him into accepting leadership? why? because 1) camp jupiter is in trouble, that giant is coming. 2) she needs help to protect and rule her home, you know after loosing her first home, it would have been downright scary to loose her second one 3)octavian the power hungry teddy killer.
hating a character for something they did, when they had really good reasons for it, does not make sense.
and btw, at the end of SoN, reyna says jason's name wistfully or whatever word was used. do u know what dat means? it means that she did hv feelings for him, because the uptight 'bitch' wouldn't. have done that for anyone, and she didn't do it for percy.
in fact , the first time she saw him in SoN she looked like she wanted to kill him...percy's words not mine.
also, ( yes this post is long, but points are popping in randomly) percy, the clueless one, picked up on her feelings for jason. he did ask her if they were involved. hmm...wonder what that could infer.
also, in TLH, piper did have to act flirty with with koline's brothers or whatever they were to koline. piper didn't want to do that, yet she had to. so why is it so different when reyna did it?
abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...
we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?
also, when percy refused her, she did not , from his pov, appear broken hearted or whatever, therefore, how could there have been any real attraction on reyna's behalf if she wasn't brokenhearted/ sadden whatever you want to call it
and, lets see, reyna had a very good reason to hate percy, yet she put that aside and flirted with him to tempt him into accepting leadership? why? because 1) camp jupiter is in trouble, that giant is coming. 2) she needs help to protect and rule her home, you know after loosing her first home, it would have been downright scary to loose her second one 3)octavian the power hungry teddy killer.
hating a character for something they did, when they had really good reasons for it, does not make sense.
and btw, at the end of SoN, reyna says jason's name wistfully or whatever word was used. do u know what dat means? it means that she did hv feelings for him, because the uptight 'bitch' wouldn't. have done that for anyone, and she didn't do it for percy.
in fact , the first time she saw him in SoN she looked like she wanted to kill him...percy's words not mine.
also, ( yes this post is long, but points are popping in randomly) percy, the clueless one, picked up on her feelings for jason. he did ask her if they were involved. hmm...wonder what that could infer.
also, in TLH, piper did have to act flirty with with koline's brothers or whatever they were to koline. piper didn't want to do that, yet she had to. so why is it so different when reyna did it?

it seemed that aphrodite wasn't interested in Jason/Piper relationship anymore since they're already an item...
so i doubt aphrodite have some influence for this pair
or maybe at that point in time she wasn't interested, because in MoA, piper/ jason/reyna relationship wasn't a large part.
the two relationships that were important/prominet were annabeth and percy, & hazel leo and frank.
why? because annabeth had that quest to do on her own, and percy was very likely to not let her do it on her own cause his flaw is that he is loyal to a fault. and they were separated for a long time.
hazel,frank and leo, all of then were on the quest, so it would be awkward for RR to build up a possible triangle and not point it out. also, he did hv to explain why hazel knew leo.
reyna simply wasn't in MoA enough for there to be any importance on that triangle. so why would any importance be placed on. it by aphrodite? why would she want to ruin a 'possibly entertaining' surprise? she has two other romances to manipulate.
also there is a site, based on MoA which states that piper has to find out whether or not the blessings of aphrodite are good. imo, the only blessings that could be would be what piper suspected, ie aphrodite interfering. if you want i'll find it for you...tmw :p
the two relationships that were important/prominet were annabeth and percy, & hazel leo and frank.
why? because annabeth had that quest to do on her own, and percy was very likely to not let her do it on her own cause his flaw is that he is loyal to a fault. and they were separated for a long time.
hazel,frank and leo, all of then were on the quest, so it would be awkward for RR to build up a possible triangle and not point it out. also, he did hv to explain why hazel knew leo.
reyna simply wasn't in MoA enough for there to be any importance on that triangle. so why would any importance be placed on. it by aphrodite? why would she want to ruin a 'possibly entertaining' surprise? she has two other romances to manipulate.
also there is a site, based on MoA which states that piper has to find out whether or not the blessings of aphrodite are good. imo, the only blessings that could be would be what piper suspected, ie aphrodite interfering. if you want i'll find it for you...tmw :p

Piper may be weaker than Reyna... but i bet she will do anything in her power to win Jason's affection (even though she had that already)
that will be hilarious!
XD


i totally agree!... Reyna is better with someone who is refreshing like Leo!
but... i doubt they will be paired up since Leo's reaction when he met Reyna is dull... he focused more to Hazel...
they're cute... Leo/Hazel... but i like Frank more... that big-teddy-bear-guy is adorable beyond words!
some people suggest Nico though...
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I never thought of Nico! That does kind of make sense..... Yeah I like Hazel/Frank and I think it would be a bit wierd between Hazel/Leo because of the whole Sammy thing.

You never Reyna may still be in the picture in HoH.

"I may have busted my head a few times, but I'm not that stupid"
XD"
Can you clarify? RR said no break ups?

haha but I agree!!!!!
Echizen_kirino wrote: "i want to see a battle between Piper and Reyna... fair and square!
Piper may be weaker than Reyna... but i bet she will do anything in her power to win Jason's affection (even though she had that a..."
so would i, esp. since 1) reyna is aware that piper words has some sort of power 2) when they were attacked by the romans, octavian was wearing earplugs because it was something the romans did when they went into battle. he couldn't hear them, therefore he couldn't be charmspoken...therefore, reyna being roman, would most likely wear earplugs.
Piper may be weaker than Reyna... but i bet she will do anything in her power to win Jason's affection (even though she had that a..."
so would i, esp. since 1) reyna is aware that piper words has some sort of power 2) when they were attacked by the romans, octavian was wearing earplugs because it was something the romans did when they went into battle. he couldn't hear them, therefore he couldn't be charmspoken...therefore, reyna being roman, would most likely wear earplugs.

I really hope Reyna gets a point of view in HoH, but with how HoO is going, RR might make Reyna look bad, or worse.
(Sorry if you are one) but some people hate how Piper and Annabeth felt pity for Reyna and did nothing. But what about Percy, the only one close enough to her who never mentioned her at all? Or Jason who treated her horribly? I'm just trying to say that at least they felt pity for her, rather than nothing.
Another thing is that they were limited to what they could do. They couldn't stop Leo from attacking Rome and Rome going to war. It would have been hard to help Reyna while she tried to stop the Romans from attacking Camp Half blood. I just think that she has to put up with angry Romans and is going through more than the seven, who put up with weak giants, and the seven don't even THINK about her. But Katropis keeps showing pictures of the Romans, so there might be importance there.


"I may have busted my head a few times, but I'm not that stupid"
XD"
Can you clarify? RR said no break ups?"
um... i didn't mean it like that...
I wasn't clarifying anything...
i just like those words... when jason said that to piper, it was just so sweet~
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abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...
we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?
also, when percy refused her, she did not , from his pov, appea..."
i never said i hated her. shes an intresting character and i want to get to know her a bit better. even if she is a bitch, like i said she has reasons for it. i just dont like her and jason together.


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in her cabin?
you don't mean aphrodite cabin, do you?
because wouldn't that be a taboo?
since they're half siblings...


Oh in desperate moments, she's great. Others, she's okay. Her power? Amazing. Appearance: Beautiful. Relationship with Jason: Not really likeable.
hello people, EmoQueen here(my real name's Chloe btw) so wassup, anybody miss me? lol


great!"
Whoa relax milady! I respect your opinion! :p
Naomi wrote: "rawr the dinosaur wrote: "@ naomi
abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...
we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?
also, when percy refused her, she did..."
whoops, sorry :)
abt ur comment abt jenya..and that fliritng thing...
we don't get reyna's pov, so how do you know she doesn't feel guilty?
also, when percy refused her, she did..."
whoops, sorry :)

great!"
Whoa relax milady! I respect your opinion! :p"
i'm relaxing... don't worry!
i'm happy actually to hear everyone's opinions and theories... because sometimes they're so true i found myself became worried about what would happen next...
ehehe~
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