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Piper or Reyna ? Who should Jason choose?

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Caraline I actually really like Reyna- and it seems like there was something there between Reyna and Jason before he was switched to CHB. Honestly, I cant stand Piper. She annoys me so much, but I do want to like her; I think she's gonna be an important character to come, and it sucks disliking one of the main characters... but I would be totally fine if Jason an Reyna ended up together! She fits him better; they were both praetors, they're both warriors, and they both recognize the bigger picture: the world (and not being upset because you were giving Aphrodite's blessing, which most grateful girls would be happy about... *cough cough* but no, not Piper....)


message 1252: by [deleted user] (new)

Lol totally agreeing with u on that


Borislava Ivova Piper FTW!


message 1254: by Aliyah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Aliyah Umm...I think Piper and Percy would be cute together. Call me crazy for not 100% shipping Percabeth, but I liked it better when they were picking on each other. I thought it was cute.

And plus, Jason so doesn't deserve Piper. If you ask me, she's too good for him.


Stephanie Stifelman Kimber~!! wrote: "Piper disgusts & annoys me"

I second that


Stephanie Stifelman I hate Piper with a strong and fiery passion that corses through my veins like fire. (I'm not a chill person :p) The only person who can measure to that immense hatred is Jason. So please- stay together, stop being annoying, petty and totally superficial. Just take a step back and let everyone just bask in the awesomeness that is (cue drumroll) PERCABETH!!!


✨Maggie He should totally choose Piper, not Renya. I would want him to pick Piper because she is more of a ladies man. Renya is more of a girl who should be on her tow's, not being behind a man, I still like her but she is not a... good fit for him. He needs someone to break his heart. Not Renya


message 1258: by P (new) - rated it 4 stars

P B They both deserve him, but I think that Piper is better for Jason.


message 1259: by Nataly (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nataly Shumba the next book is coming out AAAAAAAWWWWWWWSSSOOOMMEE!!!! The House Of Hades is going to be epic because so far Percy and Annabeth are in the underworld. see i dont want to predict i will just let rick ma man do all the creative staff oo baby imm too psyched WOOOO!! :)


message 1260: by Hec (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hec Hernandez i hope he goes with piper


message 1261: by Viv (new) - rated it 5 stars

Viv I think Reyna


message 1262: by Julia (new) - added it

Julia Reyna because Piper is better and I don't like Jason at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


Reading Is Rad SSP Piper, because I think that she really cares about him. Jason should definitely pick Piper.


Georgiana Piper all the way Reyna is just lost and needs Jason as a friend:)


message 1265: by Adam (new)

Adam Perry jr Whaa dude pipers better then that low life reyna


message 1266: by Adam (new)

Adam Perry jr Team piper


message 1267: by Adam (new)

Adam Perry jr Team piper reyna is so ug mean


Caraline Jared wrote: "Piper. I don't really like Jason (I think he's a Percy wannabe - but that's just my opinion) and Piper strikes me as a shallow character, especially when she was comparing Jason and Percy together...."


wow, I totally agree. Before, I said Reyna, but now I realize a shallow boy deserves a shallow girl. Reyna can do better.


message 1269: by Calvin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Calvin Rosevear Reyna


Shoe-mena Piper's sucha girl! i'd choose Reyna if i were Jason!


message 1271: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 02, 2013 11:01PM) (new)

To be honest, Piper and Reyna are better off ditching him. Jason hasn't shown to have any quality other than being a shallow jerk who has no leadership and no loyalty at all.

Jasper isn't going to end well. At best, it's a typical high-school crush that is based on looks. And I'm pretty sure Jeyna is dead.

Until Jason gains some decent qualities in the future books, he doesn't deserve to be with anyone at the moment.


Reyhaneh why do people think Reyna and Jason is a thing. There is no love triangle. Jason clearly showed Reyna that he likes Piper and I don't think he was trying to be mean about it but Reyna had to find out he's not intrested at some point and if he could've talked to her to expline that to Reyna he would have, they just didn't have time there. Jaiper or Pison forever. There is no 3rd person here.


message 1273: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino Reyhaneh wrote: "why do people think Reyna and Jason is a thing. There is no love triangle. Jason clearly showed Reyna that he likes Piper and I don't think he was trying to be mean about it but Reyna had to find o..."

Totally agree


message 1274: by Bowen (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bowen Zhu idk i think Piper is good with Jason, but Reyna is better


GreatScottland Reyhaneh wrote: "why do people think Reyna and Jason is a thing. There is no love triangle. Jason clearly showed Reyna that he likes Piper and I don't think he was trying to be mean about it but Reyna had to find o..."

There may be no love triangle, but I think Reyna and Jason had feelings for each other at some point. Jason wasn't exactly mean to her purposefully, but he ignored her after what she had gone through while he was gone, and didn't seem to think to talk to her a little. He had enough time to have a small conversation with her, and it didn't have to be about his feelings towards piper and her. Which can be really hurtful, though he probably didn't do it purposefully.
And to be truthful, I think that when Jason talks to her about what's happening between him and piper, then she won't be a possibility, thought right now the chance of Jeyna is getting farther and father away.


message 1276: by Lynne (new)

Lynne I don't know why there's a lot of animosity towards Jason and Piper. It seems to me that the main reason why people don't like Jason is due to the fact that he's a "Percy wannabe." I don't think that's true at all. Percy and Jason are two completely different people. The main similarity between the two is that their daddies are two of the Big Three, so of course it's natural for them to compare their powers and strengths to one another (like how their dads always quarrel about their own powers). It doesn't mean that Jason is trying to be better than Percy. In fact, I found it rather sweet that Jason and Percy have started to develop a bromance in the Mark of Athena. It's better than them being at each other throats right? However reading a lot of the comments, it's either Team Percy or Team Jason. I love both characters and both of them have a lot to offer to the story.

As far as Piper... well, yeah she can be insecure with herself that makes me wanna pull my hair out haha, but I have to admit, that's one of the reasons why I like her. Most people in relationships have gone through a sense of insecurity. It's almost a miracle if people don't go through that phase. With Jason and Piper, you get to see the challenges that they face being together, and just like all healthy couples, they address those problems and work it out. I guess it's not as adventurous as Percy and Annabeth's relationship, but again: two completely different couples. If I want to be fair, I remember being completely pissed off at Annabeth while reading the Percy Jackson series. The fact that she was always so irritated and jealous towards poor Rachel Dare kind of bugged me, just because Percy is the coolest--and most naive--guy ever, so I don't see why Annabeth had to take her frustration out on Percy and Rachel. Some people say Piper is shallow because she can be so insecure and bossy, but hey, Annabeth has shown to be very vain too. She wanted Percy's attention to herself, not to Rachel or Calypso--and they weren't even going out yet. Long post, but that's my two cents anyways. Overall, I really like each character and to say that Jason is a Percy wannabe really irks me, because I don't think that's how Riordan wanted his readers to see Jason as. I'm sure he tried to have Jason be his own character, but readers keep comparing him to Percy Jackson. Likewise, people compare Piper to Annabeth, and they're all different. It's funny how people pick "teams" but in the book, all of these guys are really good friends... so I don't know why people are hating...


message 1277: by Lynne (new)

Lynne Reading the Lost Hero, I had mixed feelings too. I really like Jason and Piper together, but I felt bad for Reyna, because if that was his girlfriend, that would be so uncool for him to leave her...

THEN I read the Son of Neptune!! First of all, Juno/Hera left Percy with only one memory: Annabeth. Why? Because their relationship was strong. The way I saw it, if Jason and Reyna's relationship was strong too, Juno/Hera would've done the same thing for Jason. But Reyna made it clear that they weren't going out... but that they would've eventually because "that's just what praetors do." I'm sure that's not the only reason why they would've went out haha... But here where I was like, "Oh hell no b*tch!" Reyna offered praetorship to Percy, but also offered something "even more." I'm like... "Whoa is she REALLY doing that to Percy? HE'S TAKEN YOU HUSSY!" And then poor, old Jason...

So I don't think there's really anything going on between Reyna and Jason. There could've been, but the opportunity is long gone... or at least I think it is. Don't get me wrong. I actually really like Reyna's character, but I don't think her and Jason should get together. Not after she tried hitting on Percy Jackson haha.

I don't know why a lot of people don't like Jason and Piper, but I think they're pretty cool characters. Yeah they have stuff about them that I don't like, but not everyone is perfect. Piper can be a insecure complainer sometimes, but I remember feeling the same way with Annabeth in the Percy Jackson series. I was irritated when Annabeth was being so mean to Rachel just because Rachel and Percy were friends. I understood that Annabeth was jealous, but she was a literal b*tch to poor old Rachel Dare. I remember this one scene in the Battle of the Labyrinth where Tyson commented that Rachel was pretty, and Annabeth's "nostrils flared." Tyson wasn't trying to be mean. He can think whatever he wants, but Annabeth got pissed because... I don't know, she thought she was being compared to Rachel? So Annabeth was being a jealous twat and it really annoyed me when she was like that... for two books.

So yeah that's my take on the Percy Jackson couples. Percy and Annabeth... Piper and Jason... Frank and Hazel... and... LEO AND REYNA!! Haha they WOULD be cute together though!!


message 1278: by [deleted user] (new)

well we don't know what Reyna and Jason's relationship was like or where it was at before the whole 'Hera switching Percy and Jason's places' thing took place. But my vote is Piper. :)


message 1279: by Aarushi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Aarushi I don't really like the idea of Jason and Piper. *ducks as rocks are thrown*
I support Piper and Leo. *ducks once again*
People who dislike Piper, dislike her because all she does is gush over Jason. "Ooh Jason is so gorgeous" "His scar is soo cute. Did you know he ate a stapler?" "He is soo mine" She's as bad as Bella Swan! I like Piper, only when I look past her talking about Jason. She's not really a bad person, she's caring, and a good friend, but really? Get over Jason. He could tell her to jump off a cliff and she would gladly obey. Their relationship is undeveloped. It's almost like they feel compelled to date because that's what the mist said. I'm just hoping Rick plans on ditching the shallow relationship, which is based pretty much off of looks. Jason likes Piper because she's beautiful, and Piper likes Jason because he's 'hot'.
Leo, on the other hand, knows the real Piper, and likes the real Piper. When she was claimed by Aphrodite, he really couldn't care less. "She's got makeup, it's a miracle!" Words of wisdom. Leo doesn't care about Piper's looks, he care's about her personality. Can you see where I'm going with this? Some of you, maybe.
Forget what I said about Leo, and call off the angry mob. In response to this question, Reyna. I just don't like Jasper as a couple. You can put away your pitchforks and torches.


kirstin ✿ REYNA! All the way. For those who say you don't know her enough to pick her, I bet after reading The Mark of Athena you'll love her a lot. She's an ideal heroine; responsible, determined, powerful, not annoying, matured. She knows her priorities. And she's a badass.


Seah Kim Reyna cause reyna needs attention also jason and reyna go cute together


message 1282: by Ryan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ryan Kimber~!! wrote: "Piper disgusts & annoys me"

Agreed, I don't like Piper that much, I mean I can see where she's important, but she just annoys me. I think Jason should choose Reyna. I was actually was kind of hoping she would be one of the seven.


message 1283: by Cara (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cara Totally Reyna. Piper is, like, crazy. The only reason she's one of the Seven is the charmspeak thing. Reyna is a great leader, and she can hold on her own (ahem, Piper!!).
Although, with the way Jason treated Reyna, he's clearly an awful person inside (Annabeth said she didn't trust him). So in a way, Piper deserves him because he's so awful.


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PIPER!!! HE HAs TO CHOOSE PIPER!!!


message 1285: by Shreya (new) - rated it 4 stars

Shreya piper, totally!

i really think leo should stay single, cuz i totally like him better that way. he's more, well, leo.


message 1286: by Cara (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cara Shreya wrote: "i really think leo should stay single, cuz i totally like him better that way. he's more, well, leo."

True, but I think him having a girlfriend would be a great way for him to be included.


message 1287: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 22, 2013 10:12PM) (new)

I'm pretty sure Piper and Jason's relationship is going to be torn up in HoH(I hope). Here's my really crazy theory...

You know how Rick loves to use the Greek myths for PJO and HOO? Like how LT was based off the original Perseus' quest and how LO was based off Achilles and the Trojan War? Yeah, this theory is something like this.

I believe Jason's story with Piper in the HOO series is based off another Greek myth, this time, Jason and the Argonauts.

In the original myth, Medea is bewitched by Hera and Aphrodite to fall in love with Jason so that Jason can succeed in getting the Golden Fleece. As you read in Lost Hero, Jason dumps Medea and his children are slain and yada yada yada, Jason eventually dies. Well, that wasn't the point...The point is that the original Jason dumped Medea and both characters parallel Jason Grace and Piper.

The Jason parallel is a no brainer (one shoe, blessed by Hera, has a ship called the Argo). The Medea parallel is in that Piper and Medea are both charmspeakers and were influenced by Aphrodite and Hera to fall in love with men named Jason so that both men can succeed on their quest.

Other evidence that support this (may or may not be as solid as above)

1. Hercules in MoA mentioned that sons of Zeus were trouble (foreshadowing?).

2. Piper thinks that Aphrodite is influencing Jason's thoughts (questionable but if Piper is right, that means their relationship like the original is fake).

3. That one Mist memory Piper has with her and Jason sneaking out to watch a meteor shower. (Jason was noted not to be a rule-breaker in that scene. Gee, who else do we know won't be so caring for rules himself?)

4. Adding to above point, Piper's memories of Jason can be modified memories of Leo and her. Piper seems to be more at ease with Leo than she is with Jason.

5. Percy Jackson, after regaining his memories, liked Camp Jupiter but knew he didn't belong there. Jason Grace had the same thoughts about Camp Half-Blood at the end of Lost Hero but at the beginning of Mark of Athena, he suddenly turns his back on his home camp without a second thought. So is he acting this way because he's actually a bigger jerk than Octavian or is it because he's being influenced by Aphrodite?

Why I hope this theory is true.

1. It's hard to believe that RR can make a shallow relationship with Jason/Piper when we have seen him done better romance in PJO and KC. Jason/Piper can be his deconstruction on the cliche "love at first sight" romance plot.

2. It can develop Jason and Piper (two of the most disliked characters in HOO) as characters. I really do not believe that Reyna could have liked Jason in the first place if he was almost as big as a jerk as Octavian. Also, Piper is quite a naive and spoiled character and it would be nice to see her realize that not everything can be handed to her on a silver platter.


message 1288: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino naw... I'm really sure that Jason and Piper can prove Heracles wrong...
they're so cute and in love with each other!


kirstin ✿ Jack's wrote: "I'm pretty sure Piper and Jason's relationship is going to be torn up in HoH(I hope). Here's my really crazy theory...

You know how Rick loves to use the Greek myths for PJO and HOO? Like how LT w..."


Nice theory! Had me thinking, you might be right.


Seah Kim Reyna no reason just reyna


message 1291: by Grace (new) - rated it 5 stars

Grace I like Piper alot ,but I feel REALLY bad for Reyna.


Gretchen Emily Danielle wrote: "I like Reyna more than Piper BUT Piper should be the one who would end up with Jason...they were so good together...

I want Reyna to be with Leo...and besides, doesn't Leo like a girl which is ver..."


I never thought of that... but it could be cool...


Gretchen Kimber~!! wrote: "Piper disgusts & annoys me"

Me too. I've never liked her, and she seems to be rather needy, jealous and suspicious of Jason. She bothers me.


Gretchen Gretchen wrote: "Emily Danielle wrote: "I like Reyna more than Piper BUT Piper should be the one who would end up with Jason...they were so good together...

I want Reyna to be with Leo...and besides, doesn't Leo l..."


I like Reyna Better too.


Gretchen I want Leo and Hazel to get together, Frank to find someone else, (because i don't dislike him, I just don't think he's right for Hazel) Jason to get together with Reyna, and Piper to die in a hole.


Gretchen Kimber~!! wrote: "Reyna!! She is strong and obviously loves & misses Jason very much.
Piper's just a selfish, whiny character who does nothing for anyone.
At least Reyna has some depth."


I very much agree.


Gretchen Sabrina *The REAL Princess* wrote: "Reyna, those 2 have an actual history and besides, if you like percabeth imagine that instead of Jason wondering who it will be, it was Percy. Then you'd all choose Annabeth, because those 2 actual..."

Yes. Just yes. You are completely correct. I wholly agree. you have the perfect answer. READ SABRINA'S ANSWER EVERYONE!


Gretchen Lauren wrote: "I think he will totally choose Reyna because most of Jason and Piper's relationship was made up by Hera(Juno)"

That's true.


message 1299: by Liza (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liza Piper all the way!


message 1300: by Sophia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophia piper piper piper ya


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