The Son of Neptune
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Piper or Reyna ? Who should Jason choose?
♘ɢα'ѕ ɢυαrdιαɴ wolғ™ wrote: "Ahh... here we go again."
Actually, I missed the debating. It was fun. As long as this doesn't turn into an argument, it'll be fine.
Actually, I missed the debating. It was fun. As long as this doesn't turn into an argument, it'll be fine.

Ikr?
Loved Pipes, disliked Reyna.
Loved Hylla though~!
I hated Piper who was hypocritial and annoying..."
Right because when they wrote that post they were obviously speaking for everyone...sarcasm. It is implied that unless stated otherwise what people write is their opinion.

Ro wrote: "Reneered wrote: "Ro wrote: "Bubbles wrote: "Piper. I really don't like Reyna all that much."
Ikr?
Loved Pipes, disliked Reyna.
Loved Hylla though~!
I hated Piper who was hypocritial and annoying..."
I know. I was just stating my opinion, like you.
Ikr?
Loved Pipes, disliked Reyna.
Loved Hylla though~!
I hated Piper who was hypocritial and annoying..."
I know. I was just stating my opinion, like you.
Ro wrote: "Reneered wrote: "Ro wrote: "Bubbles wrote: "Piper. I really don't like Reyna all that much."
Ikr?
Loved Pipes, disliked Reyna.
Loved Hylla though~!
I hated Piper who was hypocritial and annoying..."
I know. I was just stating my opinion, like you.
Ikr?
Loved Pipes, disliked Reyna.
Loved Hylla though~!
I hated Piper who was hypocritial and annoying..."
I know. I was just stating my opinion, like you.

Now, people are saying that Reyna and Jason were not "girlfriend and boyfriend".
Honestly, I do not ship Jason and Reyna just because Reyna is like the Roman Annabeth.
There is something about their relationship or how their relationship before could have been that captured my attention even in the Lost Hero wherein Jason mentions he remembers someone named Reyna.
I am a shipper of Jason/Reyna because I find their relationship very entertaining, if it would be developed.
It won't be your typical "girl falls head-over-heels over the boy and the boy asked her out". There would something much more to it, and while their relationship would develop, we can actually see a glimpse of the past of Camp Jupiter.
Now, I have several reasons why I dislike Piper McLean.
1. I sort-of find her ungrateful for what she have. She complains her father does not have enough time for her. She sulks because Jason does not remember her.
There are more problems in the world and people face. She just whines too much.
2. She talks about Jason too much. I understand that she is depressed because her "boyfriend" does not remember her but reading about it throughout the book is not cute anymore. (It's cute a person mentions it once or twice or even thrice or five times but never for the whole book).
I find it annoying considering she doesn't like to be a child of Aphrodite at the start, and she goes ranting about her personal love life by the mist.
3. I find her character cliche.
She is that typical beautiful girl who does not care about her looks and can fight. Her mother is a major goddess who blessed her with some great powers (charmspeak). Her father doesn't spend much time with her (that causes a hardship for her but makes people want to like her).
She gets bullied at the start but stands for herself in the end.
Has a best friend who jokes with her and a potential boyfriend who finds her attractive.
Seriously?
Try reading fanfiction.net for some OC stories and you'd find some of them alike with her.
She is almost a Mary-Sue.
4. I hate how she disliked her siblings and her heritage.
Silena can fight and has the courage just like Piper. They are alike in many ways except that Piper chose to love who she is and embrace her siblings.
I understand that her personality is that of a tomboy's but trying to brush off your beauty when you know that it is in you considering who your mother is?
I find that very immature.
5. I find her relationship with Jason too superficial.
I have no right to say this but I want to express myself; their relationship is merely superficial.
I can say more things but I hope you get my point and you'd respect it.

Nancy wrote: "I personally think Piper and Jason's new found relationship to forced for my taste. But I think something might happen in the Mark of Athena that might break them up. Like come on a couple getting ..."
hopefully they'll break-up
hopefully they'll break-up
TheEmoQueen [a.k.a Chloe] wrote: "Nancy wrote: "I personally think Piper and Jason's new found relationship to forced for my taste. But I think something might happen in the Mark of Athena that might break them up. Like come on a c..."
and hopefully piper will grow up *yay* XD
and hopefully piper will grow up *yay* XD
well.... don't guys always have to move on? I mean like face life! Reyna is pretty cool too but if Hera did not give him memories of her... it is obv that Piper is his one girl! Although Reyna really misses him. I think since Rick did Piper's point of view we feel sorry for her. Maybe Jason and Reyna could have a just friends status. Ya know Reyna will move on. Fight an ugly mmonster.

First Chiron did it 4 Percy & he doesn't have a thing 4 him Grover &tyson 2
Yah sure she searched 4 him because as a friend thats what u do if ur friend & LEADER & PARTNER goes missing wouldnt u look 4 him 2 if not wow u ****
-W

First Chiron did it 4 Percy & he doesn't have a thing 4 him Grover &tyson 2
Yah sure she searched 4 him because as a friend thats what u do if ur friend & LEADER ..."
For that long no it would be considered a waste of resources, and to others (Octavian) it made her look weak.
Angel wrote: "well.... don't guys always have to move on? I mean like face life! Reyna is pretty cool too but if Hera did not give him memories of her... it is obv that Piper is his one girl! Although Reyna real..."
I highly doubt that Juno cares about the love life of her champion. Or Percy's.
I am sick of all the, "OMG, isn't it so sweet how Hera couldn't wipe Percy's memories of Annabeth????"
Okay, first of all, I think that the reasons are either:
a) Percy's mortal point is Annabeth. That's why he couldn't forget her.
b) Juno let Jason remember Thalia because it would help him trust the Greeks more. That was part of the reason Jason went on the quest. Because of his sister. That was the same case with Percy and Annabeth. The memory of Annabeth made Percy push on and go on the quest.
I highly doubt that Juno cares about the love life of her champion. Or Percy's.
I am sick of all the, "OMG, isn't it so sweet how Hera couldn't wipe Percy's memories of Annabeth????"
Okay, first of all, I think that the reasons are either:
a) Percy's mortal point is Annabeth. That's why he couldn't forget her.
b) Juno let Jason remember Thalia because it would help him trust the Greeks more. That was part of the reason Jason went on the quest. Because of his sister. That was the same case with Percy and Annabeth. The memory of Annabeth made Percy push on and go on the quest.
Eve wrote: "Piper.
Reyna.. she's just... there.
So many love triangles."
I actually think that Reyna was an extremely strong and powerful character. She:
-Managed to escape from Blackbeard with her sister even though she lived a completely protected life on Circe's Island
-Ended up losing her sister but she remained strong
-Had to deal with the Titans
-Became praetor and lost some of her people to the war
-Went through the loss of her co-praetor and potential boyfriend
-Managed to keep Rome running for eight months without a co-praetor which is a lot of work even
-Tried to protect her camp, even if it meant letting Percy, the same boy who destroyed her home, be praetor
-Held off a giant and tried to protect her people
So, I dunno about you but I really do like Reyna. She has loads more potential than Piper "Beauty Queen" Mclean.
That's my opinion.
Reyna.. she's just... there.
So many love triangles."
I actually think that Reyna was an extremely strong and powerful character. She:
-Managed to escape from Blackbeard with her sister even though she lived a completely protected life on Circe's Island
-Ended up losing her sister but she remained strong
-Had to deal with the Titans
-Became praetor and lost some of her people to the war
-Went through the loss of her co-praetor and potential boyfriend
-Managed to keep Rome running for eight months without a co-praetor which is a lot of work even
-Tried to protect her camp, even if it meant letting Percy, the same boy who destroyed her home, be praetor
-Held off a giant and tried to protect her people
So, I dunno about you but I really do like Reyna. She has loads more potential than Piper "Beauty Queen" Mclean.
That's my opinion.
How about. I just tell you the answer (it says who jason dates in the demigod diaries)
He dates...... i will just send you a private message cause some people might not want to know
I already know who he dates and I don't care. I'm still supporting Jason/Reyna.

Reyna.. she's just... there.
So many love triangles."
I actually think that Reyna was an extremely strong and powerful character. She:
-Managed to escape from Blackbeard with h..."
That's true. But I.. guess I just like Piper better.

Piper
-A

No one is "bitching" it's called a discussion. Furthermore, it doesn't matter who Jason is dating at the moment because they are teenagers and this is not the last book. The end game could easily be Reyna and Jason.

Esra wrote: "Piper. Reyna just wants him to have a semblance of order within the Roman Camp in my opinion and Piper and Jason suit eachother much more"
and Piper just wants Jason cuz of his looks, she doesnt seem to have any real emotions
and Piper just wants Jason cuz of his looks, she doesnt seem to have any real emotions
am..okay..you do know that RR did release the first chapter of MOA and he did say Jason and piper were dating....so really there is no spoiler comment by saying they are presently dating....


Jason is way too serious for Piper.They don't suit each other much.
rawr? wrote: "am..okay..you do know that RR did release the first chapter of MOA and he did say Jason and piper were dating....so really there is no spoiler comment by saying they are presently dating...."
yes I know
yes I know

Firstly,Percy Jackson is a young-adult fiction and the characters can break up.And they are not even a real couple to break up.
Nora wrote: "I doubt that Piper and Jason will break up. I've never seen a children's book where characters break up. But that doesn't mean I won't hope."
I agree with Farheen, they're YOUNG ADULT, not Kids books >.<
I agree with Farheen, they're YOUNG ADULT, not Kids books >.<

and Piper just wants Jason cuz of his looks,..."
Yeah,that's right! ;)
This is totally unrelated but has anyone here read Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit? Or even Harry Potter?

I've read the Hobbit, Harry Potter, and the first Lord of the Rings
Jasmine wrote: "Reneered wrote: "This is totally unrelated but has anyone here read Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit? Or even Harry Potter?"
I've read the Hobbit, Harry Potter, and the first Lord of the Rings"
hm...read the hobbit and HP...to scared to read lord of the rings because i hv a really high expectation of it and...i'mma scared to be disappointed :(...rawr someday soon thou...
I've read the Hobbit, Harry Potter, and the first Lord of the Rings"
hm...read the hobbit and HP...to scared to read lord of the rings because i hv a really high expectation of it and...i'mma scared to be disappointed :(...rawr someday soon thou...


I agree with Farheen, they're YOUNG ADULT..."
I've always thought of them as children's books since I read the Lightning Thief when I was pretty young. The Son of Neptune is listed as both a young adult book and a children's book.
Still, I doubt that Riordan will make the characters break up since even a lot of young adult books have true love forever and insta-love.

I have read Harry Potter and it ROCKS! :)
Nora wrote: "TheEmoQueen *barely hanging on* wrote: "Nora wrote: "I doubt that Piper and Jason will break up. I've never seen a children's book where characters break up. But that doesn't mean I won't hope."
I..."
but ppl do argue that piper and jason seems to be more insta-love rather than true love kinda thing...
I..."
but ppl do argue that piper and jason seems to be more insta-love rather than true love kinda thing...
Reneered wrote: "I already know who he dates and I don't care. I'm still supporting Jason/Reyna."
me too
me too
Nora wrote: "TheEmoQueen *barely hanging on* wrote: "Nora wrote: "I doubt that Piper and Jason will break up. I've never seen a children's book where characters break up. But that doesn't mean I won't hope."
I..."
yeah but maybe Piper will die or something, though I doubt it, Reyna could die though....I still Support Jeyna, but to be perfectly honest, I dont care who Jason ends up with, all I care about is that PERCBETH lasts 4ever
I..."
yeah but maybe Piper will die or something, though I doubt it, Reyna could die though....I still Support Jeyna, but to be perfectly honest, I dont care who Jason ends up with, all I care about is that PERCBETH lasts 4ever

I agree that it's insta-love. It might also be "true love".
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For now, I am a solid Jayna fan. Here are my reasons why:
- The alternate is Jasper.
- Like it or not, Jason is Roman. And unless there’s some magical way to get the two camps to become one despite the fact that they’re two different cultures, I highly doubt that Jason can go back to Piper. Oh, and others love this type of relationship because it’s “never been done before.” You’re kidding me. There are lots of relationships like this. Romeo and Juliet anyone? And people are like, “They have to be together to unite the two camps.” That’s cliché and not true love.
- Jason and Reyna have had four years together. Plenty of time for a relationship to develop. It’s fun to imagine the possibilities of how their relationship was.
Here are the reasons why I strongly dislike Jasper.
- They are possibly the most shallow demigod couple in the entire series. They constantly go on and on about each other’s looks. I own the Lost Hero and I have counted how many times they talk about each other’s looks. Well, I started to but then I got tired from counting. But, in every Piper chapter that Jason makes an appearance in, Piper mentions how good-looking Jason is twice. And some of the chapters aren’t even that long! Now, as for Jason mentioning Piper’s looks, he mentions about 1.5 in each chapter that Piper makes an appearance in. Let’s do the math, shall we? Well, there are 56 chapters in the Lost Hero. Now, Jason has two extra chapters at the end. Which means, we divide 54 by the number of POVs, which is 3. We get 18. Multiply eighteen times two and we get thirty-six. However, there are some Piper POV chapters in which Jason does not make an appearance in, therefore not giving her a chance to go on about his looks. Three of them to be exact. 18-3=15. 15*2=30. About thirty times for Piper. Of course, during some of those chapters, Piper doesn’t get a chance to look at Jason, but I’m too tired to count all over again. But, roughly, this is how much Piper talks about Jason’s looks. Now, for Jason. There are about five chapters in his POV in which Piper does not make an appearance. Twenty chapters in Jason’s POV minus five. Fifteen. 15*1.5=22.5 Twenty two point five. That’s how many times Jason mentions Piper’s looks.
That’s a lot. Certainly more than Percy and Annabeth. Of course, one might argue that Percy and Annabeth met in different circumstances but I’ve read Percy Jackson and the staff of Hermes. Percy talked about Annabeth’s looks twice. One in the beginning and one near the middle. That’s it. No more. And the entire story had forty pages. The Lost Hero had 557 pages and 56 chapters. That equals to about ten pages per chapter. In each chapter of the Lost Hero, Piper would talk about Jason’s looks two times. Which means that, in the Staff of Hermes standards, Piper would talk about Jason’s looks eight times in the short forty pages. And Jason would talk about Piper’s looks six times in the story, compared to Percy’s two times for Annabeth. And Percy and Annabeth were actually dating unlike Piper and Jason who liked each other but weren’t actually dating. That’s shallow. And Piper is convinced she’s different from other Aphrodite girls. Please.
Is anyone here a girl? Is anyone else offended by how much Jason talks about Piper's looks? In society, women are seen as sex toys. They are considered weaker than men. No matter how hard you try to deny it, it is true. Women are discriminated against in every society. That was stated by the United Nations. I was completely and utterly offended by Jason. Anyone else here offended?
And someone was like, “So you’re concluding that Jason is shallow. So you want Reyna with a shallow person?” Look, right now, Jasper sucks. It really does. Perhaps Jason is less shallow than with Reyna. If I find that he is just as shallow with Reyna as with Piper, I’ll turn to another option. But for now, that’s my conclusion on the Reyna/Jason/Piper love triangle.
-Jasper went WAAAYYY too quickly. Honestly, what’s up with one-book relationships? Where was the friendship phase? Okay, so, Jason and Piper met four days before the solstice which, since the Lost Hero took place in 2010, was on December 21st. And then, according to the Quest for Buford, it is Christmas Eve (December 24th) when it takes place. By then, Jason and Piper are already dating. Which means, they got together in less than seven days. Can you believe that? They got together in less than a week! What the Pluto? They really seemed like they were thrown together. Come on, within an hour of meeting her, Jason wanted to kiss her!
Now, I have found out that Jason and Piper are dating. I, being a Jayna shipper, am extremely disappointed. However, if, Jason and Piper seem to have matured, I will consider shipping Jasper. But, judging from how shallow they were in the Lost Hero, I doubt that. Now, some say, if he was in love with Reyna, he would’ve never fallen for Piper. Here are my theories in why he’s falling for Piper.
-Godly influence. Let’s see, Piper’s a daughter of Aphrodite. In the Lost Hero, we saw a kinder side to Aphrodite. But we also know that she can be shallow. Perhaps she was influencing their relationship. After all, she did influence Paris and Helen. She claims that she only gives couples “a little push,” but honestly, she did not give Paris and Helen “a little push.” She made Helen fall in love with Piper because she wanted the apple of discord and because, “They were so cute together.” That is a direct quote from the Lost Hero. One might argue that she favored Percy and Annabeth as well and that I might be suggesting that their love is not true. Well, what I’m trying to say is, with Aphrodite being Piper’s mother, she would most likely care more about her daughter’s relationship than others.
Also, Hera/Juno might be giving them a push. Why? To unite the two sides. There was a reason she gave Piper fake memories as Jason’s BOYFRIEND. To unite the two, therefore bringing the two camps closer together.
And people say, “Oh, Jayna’s so not happening.” That may be so. But honestly, this love triangle has become much more important than Rick had originally intended it to be. It’s kind of like the Walt/Sadie/Anubis thing. Rick was most likely about to put Walt and Sadie together. But then, unexpectedly, there became a LOT of Sanubis fans. So, finally, he had to end the love triangle in a peaceful, yet disturbing way. If Jayna’s going down, I’m going down with it. And I’m not alone. I have tons of Jayna friends online and in real life. On fanfiction, we also have a Jayna club which has over sixty members not to mention the Jayna fans that don’t use the computer that much, like my friends. We’re Jayna fans. We’ll stick together till the end.
-A very Jayna-ific Selene