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Wendy F wrote: "Those are for if you would like email notifications to your email address assigned to your goodreads account. I have mine turned off. I get the thread notifications already."when i first click on my notifications it will show that i have six new ones. i click on one of them. then when i go back to the notifications all the other new ones are gone. do we know what this phenomena is?
another quick question--in the Outlander discussion people were mentioning loving the line "you're tearing my guts out" that Jamie says to Claire. I remember it to but cannot remember the context. can anyone help me?
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Wendy F wrote: "It was after [spoilers removed]."oh, yes, yes, yes. I remember all to well now. it tear my guts out! thank you, wendy.
I can't watch Patriot anymore because the Dragoon is Jack Black Randall in my head. And he is pretty bad in Patriot to begin with and all that evil filling my senses is just too much for me.
I finished reading every possible book about or having to do with Outlander. I have spent half a year with these people and now they feel so distant to me. I am dealing with some serious sadness over here. I know there are other books to read but I fear like no matter how good the book is it will just end being like the "rebound guy" after a break up.
Brunhilde wrote: "I finished reading every possible book about or having to do with Outlander. I have spent half a year with these people and now they feel so distant to me. I am dealing with some serious sadness ..."I felt the same way it was like going through withdraw. I ended up re reading Outlander 1 week after I finished the others. I didn't want to continue re reading everything though because I wanted to wait for the group rereads here. I like many generes of books because if it is a good story it is a good story. I ended up reading completely different generas and styles of books for a while because nothing else that was romance or historical could compare to Outlander. Now I mix it up and am just finishing the reread of Voyager here with the group. I cannot wait till book 8 is out.
Brunhilde you need to read The Bronze Horseman. Right up there with Outlander. It's a trilogy and it is wonderful. I always have one of the Outlander books going. I read it in between here and there. Rereading DIA right now. Love spending my time with them!!!
Diane wrote: "Brunhilde wrote: "I finished reading every possible book about or having to do with Outlander. I have spent half a year with these people and now they feel so distant to me. I am dealing with som..."Thank you, Diane. I think you are right about needing to read totally other genres. It also feels good to be able to share my feelings and be understood. Thanks again.
Sue wrote: "Brunhilde you need to read The Bronze Horseman. Right up there with Outlander. It's a trilogy and it is wonderful. I always have one of the Outlander books going. I read it in between here and ther..."I had marked the Bronze Horsman "to-read" a few months ago, but completely forgot. Thanks so much for the reminder.
Brunhilde, I felt exactly the same way. I actually felt as if I went through a "grieving" process for a few days. It was difficult to get back into other books - everything felt so colorless after Outlander!I did it by finding other books to read - books I didn't expect to be Outlander. I got into the Karen Marie Moning Highlander series - yummy Highlander men with some paranormal Fae stuff thrown in. They were fun, fluffy, a guilty pleasure, and not Jamie or Claire. It helped, and I really enjoyed reading the books.
I have yet to read The Bronze Horseman - started (barely), but I always seem to get distracted. I need to make a bigger effort, I guess. If you read it, let me know what you think!
Lori you will love Alexander and Tatiana as much as Jamie and Claire. Don't put it off. You'll love it!
Sue wrote: "Lori you will love Alexander and Tatiana as much as Jamie and Claire. Don't put it off. You'll love it!"I agree, if you haven't read The Bronze Horseman you are missing out! You will fall in love with Alexander as much as you did with Jamie. Read On!!!
I agree with the ladies, keep reading and there will be a major pay off :)
Lori wrote: "Brunhilde, I felt exactly the same way. I actually felt as if I went through a "grieving" process for a few days. It was difficult to get back into other books - everything felt so colorless after ..."Lori, I have a couple stray books left on my shelf next to my bed. I have been distracted for sometime with the Outlander. I just sort of dropped everything and dove in. I am planning on getting through the last bits of them and then to move on to the Bronze Horseman. I was also told the Lymond Chronicles by Dorothy Dunnet was really good. Has anyone read those?
If your trying to stray from Outlander type books for a while, A Discovery of Witches is very good. First of a series of three. The second comes out July 12th. Can't wait!!!
To someone who has read the whole series, I must know do Jamie and Claire stick together throughout the series to the end ??
Kim wrote: "To someone who has read the whole series, I must know do Jamie and Claire stick together throughout the series to the end ??"The series isn't finished yet so your guess is as good as mine
Kim wrote: "To someone who has read the whole series, I must know do Jamie and Claire stick together throughout the series to the end ??"There is no way I am going to answer that question. There is a joy that can only be had once in the first read of a book. We can reread and learn more and appreciate more but that first virginal time is so sweet.
(; I guess I meant a couple .... Inlove... Im a romantic, cant help but want them to stay in love...
They always stay in love.
Wendy F wrote: "They always stay in love."If you fall out of love was it really love?
That's a very good question. I think so, though. Yes. As Jamie asked, 'can you love the man I am now'. Some people change and they aren't the person you fell in love with anymore. Or maybe you change. Either way, I dont think it lessens the love you once shared.
Question : after voyager should I start. LJG books? Or should I continue on to drums of Autumn? Are those books a big part of the story line?
You do not need to read any of the LJG books to follow the Outlander story line. I personally didn't care much for the LJG books but there is some crossover information that you might find interesting but not necessary.
A lot of people do like them though, and as you get on further in the series (particularly Echo in the Bone) there is a lot of cross over characters. Echo in the Bone also includes a POV for LJG, reading the LJG books I hear really helps muddle through all the political intrigue.I personally haven't read all of them, though I wish I had before reading Echo.
Kim wrote: "Question : after voyager should I start. LJG books? Or should I continue on to drums of Autumn? Are those books a big part of the story line?"Personally, after Voyager I could not be wait to dive into Drums. I read all of the LJG books before Echo, but if I could do it all over again, I would have read them right all right after Voyager.
I'm waiting to finish outlander i still have one book then i will start LJG, they'll tide me over until the new book comes out :-)
I do like the LJG books, and Herself recommended reading them after Voyager. I picked them up later in the series, and wished I had known of them earlier. They help to round out Lord John's character, before he becomes a big part of the later Big Books.
Here's a random question. Maybe everybody has read an explanation but me - if so please share. When we first see Lord John in Outlander he is called William but when we see him again years later he is now Lord John William Grey. I have a theory about the change which might be a spoiler, but I've never hear DG's explanation, if any, for the name change. Can anyone fill me in?
Lord John Grey wasn't in Outlander. He doesn't make his first appearance until Dragonfly in Amber... unless someone's remembering something I don't. In Dragonfly in Amber he's very young... only like 16, so if he made an appearance in Outlander he would only have been like 12-14. Plus, in Dragonfly his name was still John. I don't remember them ever calling him William...
Wendy I do believe he said he was William Grey when he met Jamie in Dragonfly.
How far have you read in the series, Sue? Part of that answer is a big spoiler which influences the relationship between two main characters. Wendy is right, we don't meet Lord John Grey until Dragonfly.
I was answering Wendy as to her saying they never called him William. They did in Dragonfly. I didn't go any further so I wouldn't spoil anything, if you know what I mean. Read my answer again. :)
I didn't make my question clear enough. I did not mean to say William/John was in the book Outlander. I was referring to the series as opposed to the Lord John series. And yes, when they met on the way to Prestonpan in Dragonfly, he introduced himself as William Grey and said that he was 16. I think we are tiptoe-ing around the same answer but not wanting to spoil anything for others. I just don't remember ever seeing any mention of the explanation either in the books or in DG's notes.
Sue wrote: "Wendy I do believe he said he was William Grey when he met Jamie in Dragonfly."Yes, just finished reading that chapter in Dragonfly, Chapter 36, where he said his name was William Grey.
Hi guys, I'm new to this group. I just started Voyager after LOVING the first two books. I was completely swooning over this couple when I finished DIA. Now it seems I'm having a little difficulty. Jamie has made some choices that I can reason with my head, but my heart is having a hard time accepting. Did anybody else struggle with this? I almost feel like I don't want to keep reading if he's not the same person I fell in love with in the first book. Can someone talk me off the ledge? Also, I would love to have some Outlander friends on Goodreads! Please friend me if you want!
Perhaps he introduces himself as William Grey when they catch him because he didn't want to give them his real name? And William is his middle name, so it was a version of his name. The way that Jamie occasionally goes by Alex throughout the series.
Oh Lori, I totally know and understand the being talked of the ledge. Yes, get off the ledge. Keep going. They are a whole, a series, and when you have the big picture you can see the whole person living and growing. We all ebb and flow.
The Lord John William Grey thing... Herself (Diana G) said that she did name him William in Dragonfly. But she knew that she wanted Jamie's son to be William, so she just sort of snuck in John as his name in Voyager. Lord Grey's full name is John William Grey. She never explained (at least not in the books) why he decided to be called "William" in DiA; I think she just sort of assumed we (her readers) would go along with her - LOL. I think this explanation is in the Outlandish Companion.That name change threw me, too, which is why I remember it. I did think of Wendy's theory, too, though - that when Lord John was captured, perhaps he wouldn't give his real name (or his full name). But personally, I just think DG changed her mind.
Naming Jamie's son William has a lot of significance, although I don't know if Geneva knew about Jamie's brother. And he wasn't named for Lord John, either. I suppose to Geneva and the 8th Earl, William was a strong English name. (Is William one of Geneva's father's names, perhaps?) But I did find it fascinating that "William" had so many significant meanings to all the parties involved in his parenting.
From one Lori to another... KEEP READING! Yes, I sometimes think that Jamie doesn't always make the best choices either. But he's human. And for the most part, Jamie's the most decent, honorable, loyal man possible. It's hard to believe that he's a character in a book sometimes, and then I realize that he's probably too-good-to-be-true for a real life man - LOL!But don't let Jamie's feet being of clay stop you. It's easy to put him on a pedestal, but thank goodness Diana G has given him flesh-and-blood. It makes him less 'perfect' and more human - more relate-able and much more crushable/lovable.
Brunhilde is right - it's all about the big picture and the whole person. And I think that Jamie would say that living means accepting responsibility for your mistakes and learning to live with yourself despite those mistakes - learning to live through and past those decisions and still allowing them to guide who you've become.
Ok I admit it, I have no will power with this series. I have been doing the group rereads and thought it was a great idea to bring us to the latest insatallmnt of Written in My Own Hearts Blood. I decided to listen to the series ths time and found that I love it this way. Usually it is hard for me to follow a book on audio because I get distracted easily. Since I know what is happening in a reread and can anticipate what will happen next I have not been having that problem. I also found that is is wonderu while driving and though it may take longer over all that is ok since I know the story. Now I finished Drums of Autumn with the group read and couldn't wait so I jumped not The Firey Cross and am half way through that already. I am way ahead of he group ow and fear I will not be able to stop myself. It is going to be another year before #8 comes out and at this rate I will be through Echo before Christmas! Somebody stop me :)
Diane said "Somebody stop me..." I'm jealous! But you can always start all over again! When you love something that much, sometimes there is no stopping! You must ride out the obsession.
I am not sure if it will always be 1.99 so I thought I would put it up
1.99 Publication Date: December 3, 2012
Available for the first time as an exclusive eBook in this original Outlander novella, Diana Gabaldon reveals what really happened to Roger MacKenzie Wakefield’s parents. Orphaned during World War II, Roger believed that his mother died during the London Blitz, and that his father, an RAF pilot, was killed in combat. But in An Echo in the Bone, Roger discovers that this may not be the whole story. Now, in “A Leaf on the Wind of All Hallows,” readers finally learn the truth.
this wasn't bad - i read it in the anthology when it was first published
I read this in the anthology too. But I just discovered audible.com has it! So I am now listening to it when I walk to work. : )
Hi all, trying to figure out what The Outlander Challenge is and how I join it.... I found a challenge from a few years ago, but can't find a current one... Thanks!
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