Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
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Does anyone else besides me hate Harry Potter?

omg is that tom felton in your pic?!

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omg is that tom felton in your pic?! "
I know it so funny and also the other Mikaela has been commenting on may discussons that I have commented in so it weird how she doesnt notice until now.

I am too shocked for words, that someone actually dislikes my childhood hero.....

a- HP is not the best book in the world...
b- Liking Twilight doesn't mean hating HP or vice versa

For some people it is, for others it ain't. There is no one best book of the world imo, only candidates.
Harry Potter is a candidate among countless others (imo twilight isnt, but that's just me being subjective).

a-I was exaggerating.
b- Twilight and Harry Potter are just two books where people take a side. Twilight and HP are famous books battling each other.
Don't take my opinion too seriously.


People can like either one, both or neither.
Not everyone in both fandoms take that rivalry thing seriously.

However, being a bestseller doesn't mean that a book is good, it means that it had a good advertising campaign, that it has had a lot of merchandising, and that it has been pushed by the publishing company as "the book to have". Same as with music. The music that is in the top 10 of the charts is very rarely good music, as its what gets the most publicity not what has the most intrinsic worth. Publishing houses are as guilty of this sort of publicity as record companies. Some of the best books out there are the unnoticed ones, that you may pick up on a whim, and discover the best author you've ever read, but because they aren't the right person, or they don't fall into the right category, then they're just no advertised. How many of you have heard of King Rat, absolutely amazing book, that I picked up randomly, now I own everything he's written to date, and now the author is quietly winning awards for his writing, and barely gets any publicity. A Game of Throneswas only really known to dedicated fantasy fans, I first read it 6 years ago, and it was published in 1996, thats 16 years ago. No-one else really noticed it, and its sequels until a TV series (and a damned good series at that) was made of it. Now its a bestseller, not because its good (which it is, its a brilliant piece of fantasy literature) but because it got massive amounts of publicity.
Twilight is a bestseller (and no, I'm not a hater of twilight, just disappointed that its so trite, yet doing so well) and that book has almost no intrinsic worth whatsover, its a mormans bizarre wet dream published and marketed to teenage girls.
Large sale revenue is not indicative of a good product.
However, if harry potter is getting people reading, and getting them to decide that other books are worth reading too, I can't understand why anyone would hate it. Same as with Twilight, as a piece of literature its trite rubbish, but as a springboard into the world of literature, it has a small amount of value. It might not be for you, but someone reading something, anything at all, is better than them not reading.

However, being a best..."
very nice insight, I have to agree with most of it. It's sad that so many brilliant authors are never recognized by the public .

I am too shocked for words, that someone actually dislikes my childhood hero....."
Gettit, SIRIUSly? Hehe. You're a genius.

However, I also checked into what it takes to be a bestseller (yes, I'm that anal and that sad), and of course, like music, its done in weekly charts, what it takes to be a bestseller varies on time of year. The Times bestseller list is composed every week, and in, say, January, a book only need sell 4000 copies in the US to be in the New York Times bestseller list, and in September, that number may go up to 10,000.
In the United Kingdom, a hardcover book could be considered a "bestseller" with sales ranging from 4,000 to 25,000 copies per week, so an average of about 14,500, and in Canada, the rule of thumb is 5,000 copies sold.
When you consider population sizes of these countries, thats nothing. Its a tiny number of people buying these books. Its astonishing that 5000 (taking the canadian example) is enough to get you on a bestseller list. I mean, even when you take it over a 52 week period (260,000 sold), and consider canadas population of 34,740,000, thats 3/4 of a percent of the population. 0.75 percent. Nothing, basically.
Sp, being a bestseller means you've touched barely anyone with your literature.
In the interest of fairness, of course, 450 million copies of the harry potter series have sold worldwide, meaning that it is the best selling book series in history. And back to being rational, not everyone who bought the books will have enjoyed them. Again, this brings me back to "yay for literature", as its no doubt getting people reading, who wouldn't otherwise have bothered.
on a side note, I may have to move to canada, they have half the population number of the UK, and about 100 times more space



And yet it is still better constructed than some of Rowling's sentences...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkR...
thats what people sound like when they get all "offended" about people having a bit of fun at the expense of, get this, a book.
Jesus, Mary and Allah, I like the books, but I can still criticise and mock them, as all books are open to such.

Kayley, did you just hate on my opinion that some of Rowling's sentences are not well constructed?



I understand that some people aren't into the fantasy of witches and wizards, but the storytelling is magnificent, and you should at least be able to recognize that.
To go as far as to call people idiots who love this book- beware. It just makes YOU sound like an idiot.

That's an appeal to authority and really, lends nothing to your argument.
Isabella wrote: "and I'm talking about some very rich and successful people in the film and entertainment business"
These are the people that brought us the Chipmunks sequel and other Hollywood productions of similar quality... I'm not sure that I trust their judgement of quality, except in the case of quality being the quality of selling lots of movies...

People, surely seven years of Hogwarts education has taught us to never feed a troll! For shame!

**you're
But good point. I'm a grammar nazi, don't take it personally. I love Harry Potter.
BTW I don't really care! I just wanted to say forgive all of us "idiots"!!! You may be pointing your finger at us, but really you are pointing at yourself and calling yourself an idiot!



Ah yes, isn't the correct protocol to shove a long piece of wood up its nose and into the brainpan? I'm sure thats what I recall as being the way to deal with trolls...
Only a true Gryffindor would have the courage to admit they hate Harry Potter to millions of fans. You would have done well...

Either that or someone has been imperioused....I have the perfect solution, AVADA MUTHER FRIKKIN KEDAVRA. Solved XD. The OP is probably a muggle, Molly Weasley always taught me don't feed trolls...
Harry Potter is the best series EVER and you are the idiot if you don't like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's amazing and J.K. Rowling is the most amazing and creative author that there ever was!!!!!!!!!

You seem to be very immature if you find this book has no point to it. Obviously it must have some if it has the ability to unite readers all around the world to see the importance and power of love over everything else. If those are the idiots of the world, then what you are must be much lower than that. I would think twice before you say that. It's ok if you don't like it, but don't be so quick to judge. Apparently you didn't read the book that closely, or you would have learned that.

You saw the movies without reading the books?! Craziness!!! You MUST read the books, even if you've already seen the movies!!!!!!!

They're not really the same... I still think that everyone should read them!!! You don't HAVE to, but I think that you should!!!!!!!!
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omg is that tom felton in your pic?!"
Yes it is"
that is awesome what is he like in person