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Does anyone else besides me hate Harry Potter?
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I was 18 - 19 when I tried to read it, so not quite the target audience. Still there were many people older than myself who were fans of the book. I can't tell much about the plot or originality of the ideas since I didn't got past page 2. My problem with it: the language. It is soooo incredibly simple written. Simple subclauses, if any, blunt adjectives, little variety. While the language is appropriate for a pre-teen or teen audience I wonder why so many adults liked it. So even if there was any Tolkien-scale capital scenario and well thought out characters to this book thanks to the style of the language there is no way (for me, that is) to enjoy it.

I was 18 - 19 when I tried to read it, so not..."
well maybe if you read past page two you'd have a different opinion

really if you think that there's no point in even saying it. why'd you even come to this discussion, simply to hate on the author? this discussion is about people who hate it, but really no reason to be saying these things about an author.


Maybe I would, maybe I would not. My experience tells me the latter is more probable. I see no point (anymore) in forsing myself to read a book I do not enjoy from the beginning. I once did that with "Angels and Demons" from Dan Brown. When I finished the book I hated it even more for wasting the time of my life. Did the same with "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" as I really enjoyed the ideas and punchlines, but hated Douglas Adams writing style. Never got past page 100. I actually started the book 3 times, never forced myself to finish it.
I actually tried Harry Potter in 3 different languages, 2 native languages of mine and english as I was thinking maybe it is bad translation. Figured out it wasn't.

Maybe I would, maybe I would not. My experience tells me the latter is more probable. I see no point (anymore) in ..." well Harry Potter is very different from those other books, much better in my opinion, and by the way I did say maybe you'd have a different opinion. I admit the first 2 pages are a bit boring, but it's simply providing background information, so I still view them as important. trust me, a lot of the action happens later in the books.

My problem was not about the lack of action. There are plenty of books I like where there is no action whatsoever. It the style of writing. And if that is not changing on the later pages (though I was told it gets better in the later books) there is no way I can enjoy reading it. It just not resonates with me and is not what I consider well written. But there are many people who don't mind that and value the story more. Different tastes ;)
I can only speak for myself, but Harry Potter was the best thing that ever happened to bookstores. The characters are such fantastic role models with such great morals to teach. I learned a lot about myself and my perception of people and the world.
If you're hating on the books, you've likely never actually taken the time to read the series from beginning to end - if you had, you'd probably agree with me. The story is captivating and emotionally impacting in a way I hadn't experienced before I read it. So please, before you go hating, give it a try.
If you have read the books (ALL OF THEM) and still aren't a fan, we aren't interested in hearing about your unending hatred and disgust for them. A lot of people in the world like Harry Potter, so please, keep it to yourself.
Of course, anti-Potters are people, so we don't need to go rip them up one side and down the other just because they aren't fans.
Bottom line, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and we have no right to belittle anyone based on their book preferences. There will always be people who like Harry Potter and people who don't. We all have different tastes.
If you're hating on the books, you've likely never actually taken the time to read the series from beginning to end - if you had, you'd probably agree with me. The story is captivating and emotionally impacting in a way I hadn't experienced before I read it. So please, before you go hating, give it a try.
If you have read the books (ALL OF THEM) and still aren't a fan, we aren't interested in hearing about your unending hatred and disgust for them. A lot of people in the world like Harry Potter, so please, keep it to yourself.
Of course, anti-Potters are people, so we don't need to go rip them up one side and down the other just because they aren't fans.
Bottom line, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and we have no right to belittle anyone based on their book preferences. There will always be people who like Harry Potter and people who don't. We all have different tastes.

I understand if you all just despise the hype, J.K. Rowling herself, or the book's premise, but can you please go into detail somewhat? All I'm getting is, Harry Potter sucks because it's way too big. It's not a classic like people say it is. It's just a bunch of dark, depressing drivel that I hate with a passion.
Elaborate?


I guess that you can say that I "hate" Harry Potter. And I am saying this as someone that originally loved the series.
I found out about the series in the 3rd grade. The first book was just released and my favorite teacher, Ms. Lucy, would have the kids gather around and she would read about the magical world of Harry Potter. As is typical of American grade schools, story time is a "normal" routine. It is a great way for children to be introduced to new types of literature.
I should mention that no, Harry Potter did not introduce me to literature. I was already a voracious reader by the time the first book popped up on the scene. I was 9-years old and reading way above my grade level by then. I spent the majority of my leisure time either reading, drawing or writing. As a result, I think this may be the main reason why I transitioned from a "lover" to a "hater".
So, what happened?
I grew up. But let me explain...:
The series is extremely black and white. I know that many try to argue otherwise, but that is not the case. I do not see characters such as Sirius, Voldemort, Snape, etc. as gray--because they are not. There was always the subtle hint that Voldemort was born with a shadow hanging over his head. Snape, from beginning to end acted out of selfishness. His love for Lily, was pure selfishness. Him saving Harry is irrelevant because he did it for Lily, his eternal lover imprisoned by his obsessive nature. Sirius was... Sirius. James was a bully, I suppose. But what kid isn't? All because the characters participate in the stereotypical behavior of teenagers, does not mean that they have depth.
To get a clearer idea of what I mean, take a look at A Song of Ice and Fire. I am aware that HP is more of a YA novel and the latter is not, but the DEPTH. No one in the ASOIAF universe is good or bad. They are all extremely gray--the edges bleed so deeply that the lines are blurred. The characters can do something extremely heroic, but in the next chapter do something extremely repulsive and vile. You'll see this with characters such as Tyrion, Arya (i.e. who murdered people way before the show decided to show her committing such atrocities), etc. The Game of Thrones television show has somehow flattened Sansa, but in the novel... Things aren't always how they appear. She seems a little daft. Definitely was naive--filled with fairy tales. Sadly, Sansa had to eventually wake up. This is the world, not a fairy tale, beloved. And what did she do (speaking purely from the books). She adapted. And learned the most valuable lesson that anyone can learn--that you must do and act in ways that benefit you. No one else. No one will come and save you. You will be at your lowest one day or many days, and more often than not, there will be no one there to comfort you.
Harry, on the other hand... His life seems unrealistic. I am not speaking of the magic. But everything is so beautifully planted. Small things will go wrong, but this isn't a story about humans having autonomy, it's a fight of a young boy growing up in a magical world and defeating his fears.
What a bunch of bologna.
I, as a reader, wanted to see the psychological damage of Harry's life. Flashbacks and feelings of unease were thrown here and there, but they were not real. They were not real natural reactions to childhood trauma.
And then, while some people died at the end against the fight of good and evil, good prevailed.
But good rarely prevails. It is always squandered. A more fitting end, would be Harry dying, becoming immensely disfigured and extremely traumatized after spending 7-years of his life living in constant fear and agony. I cannot accept that ending. I do not accept these characters are real human beings. In a way, I would have been much happier if Voldemort won in the end. We have our own Voldemorts in our real world, don't we? Putin, Trump, Hitler, Mussolini, etc. They exist and often do win.
So, I was a lover at age 9. And grew to despise the series after each and every book. By the 5th book, I gave up, placed it on the coffee table (half-read) and moved on to Greek & Roman mythology, books about how King Henry VIII betrayed his wives (some unfortunately losing their heads), books of characters with deep regrets, many unable to function as they did before. Like Frodo, who was haunted by his adventures, decided to set sail to be freed from his torment. Entering my 20's (and nearing my 30's), I have a strong preference for unreliable characters plagued by insanity.
Harry Potter was for me, once upon a time. But everyone grows, and I found the characters infuriating and unrelatable overtime.

It honestly makes me mad when people bash Harry Potter just based on the first two books. Sure, those books are written for younger audiences so they are easier to read than typical young adult books but as the series goes on the writing becomes a lot more in depth and more mature. The characters really grow up throughout the series which makes the content in the stories grow up also, so please do not bash the series just based on the first two books.

I used to hate Harry Potter for some unknown reason, I think it was simply the hype it had, and I didn't understand why it was so popular. I was a teenage boy when the movies came out. It felt silly. But now I'm reaching my 30s and I've met a girl that insists I read the books, and I do what I do to please her, and I'm just about done with the first one and i've found i've enjoyed it. I will continue the series.
It's good to practice an open mind. Ask yourself why you hate something, and look into it. You might find that you actually like it.

WOW..i just read the other comments and I have now seemed to realize that this discussion post is disliking the Harry Potter series (i mean who would dislike it pfft) >> [I could totally delete the stuff I wrote in caps but its pretty funny so I'll just keep it.. LOL @ me defending ma boy Harry like shieeeeeet ahha)
I mean just bc it's "too hyped up" or so "mainstream" doesn't mean it sucks ya know? Give it a chance before you actually start hating it. (it's like judging a book by its cover..for books literally and people too haha) I started reading Harry Potter because my friend in the n'hood had read it and said it was amazing and I thought I should give it a shot since I already like the movies. And BAM, after reading the books...man I was hooked. I even waited in line for the last HP book to come out haha
Anyways, HP will always and forever be remembered. Rowling is an awesome author and does a great job in filling the readers mind with enjoyable characters, cool mysteries surrounding He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, the backstory of many characters, the descriptions of school life in Hogwarts that WE ALL can relate to hahah. And ofc, the main attraction is the MAGIC. She describes Hogwarts and the magic involved in the characters daily lives - whether it be for good intentions or bad. And she literally draws the reader in with her words that you too want to experience a day in the Wizarding world...for example attend the World Cup! man, thinking about the HP series just makes me tingle with joy! I need to re-read them again. (The last time I re-read them was like early this year in January!)
OVERALL...everyone...must...one. day. read. Harry. Freakin, Potter. (And watch A Very Potter Musical {AVPM} by Starkid productions on YOUTUBE...all HP fans must watch this honest to God, y'all will die of laughter and happiness! It is basically a parody..in a good way...of the HP series! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmwM_... ) (p.p.s. the songs in this are just tooo goood!)
P.p.p.s. I also wanted to note that I will be reading the HP series to ma children in the future bc I mean, ya can't live w/o HP. EVERYONE should know about the magnificent awesomeness that comes with it mUAHHAHHAHA. ok I'll stop k bye

I so agree with Meko!
Also, if his relatives or whatever didn't like Harry Potter that much, why keep him? Give him to foster care. That is a very real option! How come he hasn't called CPS yet anyways? They lock him in rooms and bar his windows? Really? That is one of the reasons I really dislike this series. It was so unrealistic. And the author answered none of my questions.
Just a note: I can live without Harry Potter. In fact, I would be a lot happier if I had never read it in the first place.
And yeah, I do dislike the hype. But for a reason. I got excluded in conversations a lot in my old co-op. All they would talk about was HP, and how many times they've read the series and blah blah blah. That's actually one of the reasons I tried it in the first place. Turned out to be a waste of my time. So I dislike the hype. But I also dislike the books.

This is different from the facts and an "objective" review. The good points are that the HP books are easy to follow, the stories can hook someone and without knowing, you have read many pages, (something similar in my case of The Beach by A Garland). While reading, you can get into the story, from imagining the passage with no difficulty (with little support of the portrait and/or the images which appear in the beginning of the chapter, depending the edition) to the point where you could feel the characters, the story, REAL(a possible reason of why someone could start to care, love and even hate some characters), and the books can and have been read by people of any age, any place, any country and any time.
Now here are the negative points: the series have been hyped, and in many ways. It was said that they helped to encourage people, kids specially, to read, I doubt it because there are still people and children who is still not interested in reading books or Literature subject is a headache for them, even though they could be fans of the HP franchise (and maybe some of them only have enough by watching the movies with the attractive cast). Talking about franchises, that is also another point against, the enormous and monstruous marketing. Besides the movies, posters, toys, accesories, tours, being part of amusement parks, etc, etc, etc, it seems that the world of Harry Potter won't be left alone and in peace due to the business and money made, although the author promised that the seventh book finished the whole saga, other books wrote either by her or by people written about other subjects related to the wizarding world which can later have a movie adaptation or the sequel of the original saga which sadly can have the same fate. In other words, it is looked to satisfy the fans and people with more, and to make bigger the goose of the golden eggs and get more.
Also it was said that the series is an original masterpiece, by some. However, in literature there have been already stories which tell about a magic world which can be secret to non magic people, what can be considered original, are the names, the reasons to put them, how the magic world is working, the school life is and going from school issues to other and bigger problems outside the school.


But now, reading the series more than 38 times, books like the Order of Pheonix and The Half-blood Prince have become some of my favorite books.

actually i tried the first book and about twenty pages in a didnt like it either it was depressing and all but a year later i tried it again and read 1/3 of it and LOVED it i recommend you try to read at least half of the book before you judge it.


I seriously doubt that...


OMG, Are you serious? Calling a women whore just because
you don't like her books is very beneath and shows how much Harry Potter is an awesome book to it's obnoxious fans. I dislike the books and also love them for different reasons but I think you are being over the top. Try to make people understand your point instead of being an bigot.



Lol, maybe you are right but I guess as a women myself I hate people calling successful women whore. Can you blame me?


Actually, lots of people have given reasoning on here. You just have to take the time to read through it. What a shocker, right?

Hmm.......

That was my personal motto not a world wide because you see many series I have read are bad in first book but goes better as you read it, anyway forget that. You are right you should not waste time on a series you don't like, like I did for twilight. But my reasoning is people find reasons to hate the series which on further reading solves the problems. I wanted a full description why they hate on the depths base of the series, to me it gets pretentious in politics and I also hate Harry but love the world building. No major character actually gets character development and Harry is an ungrateful shit.....Half of the way he behaves if done in real life I am sure that he would have been isolated for real. Also Harry's depression is not done that well and I have depression...... Also many many things.



If your looking for that kind of conversation, I'm not sure you're going to get that on here:

If your looking for that kind of conversation, I..." Why? This thread was made for people who hated or dislike Harry Potter books, I don't fully dislike the books but I won't say I fall to fan category or hater.


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