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message 2551: by Blindzider, Moderator (new)

Blindzider | 3293 comments Mod
Congrats!


message 2552: by Ooh_jim (new)

Ooh_jim | 251 comments Nice one!


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Nickviola | 1019 comments PorkPiePusher wrote: "Got Inferno"

Ah, Inferno... my old nemesis. This would be a big get for me too, congrats!


message 2554: by Relstuart, Mod+ (new)

Relstuart | 2964 comments Mod
Inferno is a difficult find a good price. Part of the challenge with that one is the widespread fear it will not ever be reprinted in OHC. The book sold poorly when it came out and copies were remaindered to get rid of them cheaply. If Marvel lost money on the book and it sold poorly that is a very poor recipe for reprint hopes. I didn't realize it existed whenever it was printed, the lack of the word "omnibus" in the title likely hurt it's sales and recognition for some folks (like me at the time).

I did order The Complete Little Nemo book 1: https://www.amazon.com/Winsor-McCay-C...

It's back down to $17.61 on Amazon. If you have Prime I feel like Amazon is probably losing money sending this with two day shipping (they try to make up for it by not including any padding in the box with the book). I paid $23 when I ordered last week. It's now the largest book I own (Colossal Conan is still the thickest). I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the material based on what I've read so far.


message 2555: by Reece (new)

Reece (mrrallentando) | 309 comments I wonder why it's fluctuating so much on Amazon. It was cheap, then jumped up to about $50, now back down. That's not typical from Amazon as far as I've seen.


message 2556: by Firestorm (new)

Firestorm | 72 comments I just got Doctor Strange 3 on Ebay.


message 2557: by Blindzider, Moderator (new)

Blindzider | 3293 comments Mod
Is your goal to get all of the MMWs? Or do you have specific ones you are looking for?


message 2558: by Erik, Moderator (new)

Eastham Erik (erikakasash501) | 851 comments Mod
Rel, there are a couple other Nemo's listed too when I search. I see the one you're talking about. Will the later years be offered in the future? Looks like there is a bigger one (longer run) with the same cover for $150, but the amazon listing says " 2 vol.". Any help is appreciated as I'm very interested in these and am unsure on the right way to go about it.


message 2559: by Reece (new)

Reece (mrrallentando) | 309 comments This is my understanding:
There are two volumes of "The Complete Little Nemo in Slumberland" put out by Taschen; Vol. one discussed above and the second you referenced. The second volume is much thicker, thus the price deference.

There is another series with a similar title put out by Fantagraphics I believe. They're cheaper but also a lot smaller. Six in that series.

Each set collects the same material, just in different formats.


message 2560: by Reece (new)

Reece (mrrallentando) | 309 comments By the way, it's Little Nemo in Slumberland Vol. 1 has dropped even further to a ridiculous $16.20 right now. Even if you're not that interested in the material everyone should grab a copy at that price. The book is massive and the comic history is worth owning a piece of. You won't regret it.


message 2561: by The Lion's Share (new)

The Lion's Share Reece wrote: "By the way, it's Little Nemo in Slumberland Vol. 1 has dropped even further to a ridiculous $16.20 right now. Even if you're not that interested in the material everyone should grab a copy at that ..."

ordered.


message 2562: by Firestorm (new)

Firestorm | 72 comments I have specific ones. 22 more.


message 2563: by Relstuart, Mod+ (last edited May 15, 2017 06:38AM) (new)

Relstuart | 2964 comments Mod
Erik wrote: "Rel, there are a couple other Nemo's listed too when I search. I see the one you're talking about. Will the later years be offered in the future? Looks like there is a bigger one (longer run) with ..."

I suspect the current very inexpensive copy of Nemo we're talking about is reprint and there has not been a reprint of the second book, which is part of the reason it's very expensive. Taschen has the vol 1 book at $80 which is well under their original $200 price. I'd love to get a copy of volume 2 but in no hurry at the current Amazon prices... does volume two contain all the content of volume one plus additional content? That is what the Amazon solicit info seems to indicate.


message 2564: by Erik, Moderator (last edited May 15, 2017 06:31AM) (new)

Eastham Erik (erikakasash501) | 851 comments Mod
What's confusing me is amazons description. The first is 1905-1909 where as vol2 also starts with 1905.

Amazon does has a distinction in the description where Vol. 1 says, "of the finest . . . escapades" whereas Vol. 2 states "all"

All this leads me to the conclusion that the second volume is a complete compendium made after vol 1 and including vol1 in its printing.

I'll submit the question to Taschen too


message 2565: by Erik, Moderator (new)

Eastham Erik (erikakasash501) | 851 comments Mod
Relstuart wrote: "Erik wrote: "Rel, there are a couple other Nemo's listed too when I search. I see the one you're talking about. Will the later years be offered in the future? Looks like there is a bigger one (long..."

I can confirm that the Vol 1 on Amazon is a second print. That's what it states on Taschen's site.


message 2566: by Donovan (new)

Donovan | 1154 comments I almost wonder if Volume 2 is the entire series. It's 700 pages compared to Volume 1's mid 300. And Amazon lists (although perhaps incorrectly) different dimensions too, 14x18 v 15x20. I remember watching the movie adaptation as a kid and it blowing my mind, so the book actually sounds quite interesting.


message 2567: by Erik, Moderator (last edited May 15, 2017 08:03AM) (new)

Eastham Erik (erikakasash501) | 851 comments Mod
Mad Tom wrote: "I almost wonder if Volume 2 is the entire series. It's 700 pages compared to Volume 1's mid 300. And Amazon lists (although perhaps incorrectly) different dimensions too, 14x18 v 15x20. I remember ..."

My first encounter with Nemo was the NES game . . . one of the best.

The amazon listing also says 2 Vol, not Vol 2. Maybe it is saying it is Two Volumes rather than just a Vol. 2.


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Nickviola | 1019 comments I agree that its a little confusing, if you look at the dates collected I do think the 700 page 1 collects everything Nemo. In some minimal reading, the main strip ran from 1905-1911, then there was staggered stuff after until 1926. Thats probably why 1905-1909 makes up 1/2 the material but much less of the timeline. The 2 volume thing is up on ebay and it looks like a box that may actually have the 2 volumes inside of it. I am not sure why 1905-1909 is the only part on sale by itself and why its labeled as "complete" and not Vol 1 of 2. Confusing marketing.


message 2569: by Erik, Moderator (last edited May 15, 2017 11:57AM) (new)

Eastham Erik (erikakasash501) | 851 comments Mod
This is what I got from Taschen, "Yes, the stories contained in the 1905-1909 edition are also included in the Complete Collection of 1905-1927."

So here is my take away. If you want a true complete Little Nemo, the reprint volume that you can get on Amazon for $17, isn't going to cut it. But, you truly only need to buy the 1905-1927 to get them all . . . woohoo the completist can save $17.

If you just want some great Little Nemo stories, then just save the hunk of change the the true complete version will cost you and get an AMAZING deal with the reprint volume of just 1905-1909.

That being said, I'm going to get both. Even though the 1905-1909 is fully reprinted in the 1905-1927, it's sooo cheap. The 1905-1927 will be for me and my collection, and the 1905-1927 will go in the waiting room for my clients.


message 2570: by Reece (new)

Reece (mrrallentando) | 309 comments Good clarification, thanks for researching the contents further.

I'd say the cheaper volume is a great way to experience the material for those that aren't familiar with Nemo (like me before picking it up). If you really love it, go for the more expensive version. If you don't love it, I'm sure you can sell it on eBay and make a profit.


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Fluffyroundabout | 202 comments Just ordered all 3 omnibus's of Geoff johns Green Lantern. It seems to be going out of print so I jumped on it. So excited!


message 2572: by Donovan (new)

Donovan | 1154 comments Wow. Nice, Fluffy.


message 2573: by Donovan (new)

Donovan | 1154 comments @Reece So I wouldn't be an idiot to buy two Little?Nemos then? ; )


message 2574: by Donovan (new)

Donovan | 1154 comments Well I went ahead and ordered one. But apparently that seller limits one per customer. So that sucks.


message 2575: by Firestorm (new)

Firestorm | 72 comments I got MMW MTIO 1, Doctor Strange 7 and 8, Daredevil 11, and Iron Man 10 today.


message 2576: by Blindzider, Moderator (new)

Blindzider | 3293 comments Mod
I really enjoyed MTIO.


message 2577: by Firestorm (new)

Firestorm | 72 comments I look forward to buying number 2.


message 2578: by gxvault (new)

gxvault | 132 comments Thor blood & thunder
Thanos redemption


message 2579: by Donovan (new)

Donovan | 1154 comments Nice. So I just received Little Nemo in the mail today. Holy hell, I do not have room for this book!


message 2580: by Nickviola (new)

Nickviola | 1019 comments So I picked up a copy of Matt Fraction's Fantastic Four for $25 because, while the reviews are mixed, I like both Fraction's writing and Allred's art and that's about as cheap as any omnibus gets. Plus I love the FF. So I am 2/3 of the way through, and shit is this a fun read.
Fraction understands the family dynamics and the sense of adventure. 1/2 the issues are the family and kids in space/time travel and the other 1/2 is a replacement FF team full of dysfunction and nonsense (that's the Allred drawn part). Fraction brings in Yancy street and classic FF villains but finds ground between Stan Lee camp and Hickman serious. The art is predictably great. It's a comfortable size at 760 pages, well bound. I don't see this book on many people's shelves but it's out there cheap and if you like the FF or Fraction or Allred it's definitely worth a hard look.


message 2581: by Reece (new)

Reece (mrrallentando) | 309 comments Mad Tom: I know, it's great isn't it?

Nickviola: Glad to hear you're liking it. I also grabbed it cheap, but haven't started reading it yet. I've read the luke warm reviews but hopefully I'll enjoy it as well.


message 2582: by Nickviola (new)

Nickviola | 1019 comments Ha, the size of Nemo is pretty nuts. I think it's remastered but at the original newspaper size. Amazon always ships things in way too big a box so when I opened this huge box and saw that the book actually took up the whole space I started laughing. Finally an Amazon book arrived with no dings! If only every book was gigantically sized to match amazons boxes.


message 2583: by Donovan (new)

Donovan | 1154 comments Yes it is gargantuan! Mine did come with a few dings, however. No one packages like IST. I'm excited to check it out.

And good looking out on that Fraction omnibus. Cheap!


message 2584: by gxvault (new)

gxvault | 132 comments Is that FF omnibus a good starting point?
I'm trying to get as much "cosmic" marvel as I can get, especially old/classic ones, but there's so many FF omnibus I don't know where to start...


message 2585: by Ooh_jim (new)

Ooh_jim | 251 comments Nickviola wrote: "So I picked up a copy of Matt Fraction's Fantastic Four for $25 because, while the reviews are mixed, I like both Fraction's writing and Allred's art and that's about as cheap as any omnibus gets...."

That's good to hear! Like you I was a bit apprehensive with the reviews, but Fraction & Allred was just too tempting a combination.


message 2586: by Nickviola (last edited May 18, 2017 05:29AM) (new)

Nickviola | 1019 comments Sercapi wrote: "Is that FF omnibus a good starting point?"

That's a good question. It helps to know what I would think are some basic facts about the FF and their history because it enriches the read. Like one of the authors pops in as a character which can seem dumb unless you realize early marvel did this. And that Yancy street is a substitute for Delancey street (lower east side of NY) which has a very low level gang that would prank the Thing in the old Stan Lee comics and comes into play here. As with a lot of FF comics, inhumans come into play, particularly Medusa so a basic understanding of her and her family tree is the most helpful outside knowledge I guess. But as far as basic narrative thread, the story starts with a problem that is well explained and so far it seems like 750 contained pages trying to solve that problem and the adventures that it leads to. In that way, it's quite self contained so you don't need to know what else was going on in Marvel at the time it was published. As a place to start, I think both the old Stan Lee FF omnis are great if you can stomach silver age villains and the dialogue. The Byrne omnis are really wonderful, the price I think can be high on the first one but it's super thick so it's got a lot of reading and used copies are out there.


message 2587: by Blindzider, Moderator (new)

Blindzider | 3293 comments Mod
I pretty much agree with Nickviola on all points about knowing some basic facts and recommending the Lee/Ditko stuff. I've read the Fraction stuff and thought it was fine, some of it was very good, but never really outstanding. Personally, I'm not a fan of Bagley's art so that was a bit of a turnoff for me, but it's a decent read.


message 2588: by gxvault (new)

gxvault | 132 comments Thanks what an awesome help you gave me, I must say, once again, this is by far one of the best "forums" I've stepped on.
The thing is I re-started reading comics having the target to get enlightened by the role warlock, and mostly Thanos played in the Marvel Universe (yeah I'm a sucker for villains) but instead I get to know some pretty good characters/entities (cosmic) and now I want to collect comics regarding the cosmic universe I don't "like" that much comics regarding Cities/towns in danger, In more a guy to read IG type of danger.


message 2589: by The Lion's Share (new)

The Lion's Share Sercapi wrote: "Thanks what an awesome help you gave me, I must say, once again, this is by far one of the best "forums" I've stepped on.
The thing is I re-started reading comics having the target to get enlighten..."


Don't forget the ultimates. It's amazing, but leave that till last. Great new series.


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Nickviola | 1019 comments Blindzider wrote: "I'm not a fan of Bagley's art..."

I agree, he seems to have trouble with drawing heads. Which seems like a critical skill when drawing people.


message 2591: by Blindzider, Moderator (new)

Blindzider | 3293 comments Mod
Nickviola wrote: "Blindzider wrote: "I'm not a fan of Bagley's art..."

I agree, he seems to have trouble with drawing heads. Which seems like a critical skill when drawing people."


Yep, they generally seem to big for the body, and they are always drawn in one or two angles. I also find his bodies to be too skinny. Everyone looks small.


message 2592: by Ooh_jim (new)

Ooh_jim | 251 comments Cheese wrote: "Don't forget the ultimates ..."
Can't stress this enough.


message 2593: by gxvault (new)

gxvault | 132 comments Oh yeah gotta explore them!


message 2594: by Blindzider, Moderator (new)

Blindzider | 3293 comments Mod
I liked the original ultimates V1 & 2 but thought almost everything after that was crap.


message 2595: by Ooh_jim (new)

Ooh_jim | 251 comments Blindzider wrote: "I liked the original ultimates V1 & 2 but thought almost everything after that was crap."

I've never read any of the original Ultimates stories - or anything from the Ultimate Universe other than what spilled over into Secret Wars - but as far as I'm aware, it doesn't share anything with those books other than the title.

Quick pitch: Ms America, Black Panther, Captains Marvel (Carol & Monica), Blue Marvel, and occasionally Galactus team up to face cosmic level threats (by which I mean the assorted pantheon of squabbling space gods - old & new - as opposed to various alien races at war), whilst keeping the NSA off their backs. But there's an over arching mystery throughout all of their adventures: what's happening with Eternity?

Rocafort provides some of the most striking art I've seen from a Marvel book, conjuring up classic-Kirby influenced, trippy cosmic spectacle with a sleek modern sheen. The writing is also better than anything else I've read by Ewing (I'm not a fan of New Avengers & USAvengers, but I did like his Mighty Avengers stuff) and the majority-female, majority-PoC cast also gets diversity points from me.

All in all, it's my favorite Marvel output since early Fraction Hawkeye. If you're a fan of Starlin's mind-bending cosmic stuff, or Hickman's recent New Avengers epic -to which the book acts as a spiritual successor, you'll almost certainly enjoy.


message 2596: by The Lion's Share (new)

The Lion's Share Bz this is brand new and not associated with the ultimate universe.


message 2597: by Blindzider, Moderator (new)

Blindzider | 3293 comments Mod
Cheese wrote: "Bz this is brand new and not associated with the ultimate universe."

Oh wow, am I out of the loop. LOL.


message 2598: by Nickviola (new)

Nickviola | 1019 comments Agree, the Ultimates with Ewing and Rocafort has been my favorite series of the past year. It got renumbered for stupid reasons involving Civil War II nonsense, but hopefully will all be a collected addition 1 day. What they do with Galactus is great. Really beautiful art and characters who both provide action and have individual characterizations and arcs. For me this is the current pinnacle for tights/capes stories these days, although X-Men: Blue is also scratching an itch.


message 2599: by Donovan (new)

Donovan | 1154 comments I've been wanting to get into X-Men collecting but have been justifiably apprehensive. Claremont's Uncanny is probably the best place to start right? I've read Dark Phoenix Saga and Days of Future Past and they're pretty good. Also would like Morrison's run as well, read the first few books and it was satisfyingly weird.


message 2600: by Nickviola (new)

Nickviola | 1019 comments Claremont is excellent. Despite being a huge X fan and having read most of the 3 Uncanny omnis twice, I haven't gone beyond because I'm waiting for Vol 4 and the continue chronologically.


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