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Has anyone here ordered from Observe Books?They do the novels based on the Cushing Doctor and other odds and ends.
Been toying with ordering some stuff, but all the notices on the site about how brexit is messing with their shipping and having to do math on the currency conversion has been intimidating.
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It seems longer when we're stuck with a companion we don't really like, doesn't it? I think that's about the right time frame - plus she bridged the change between 11 & 12.
As for sour feelings, I really, really hope Rose does not make a reappearance in this next season or under RTD's leadership. Gah.
Lori S. wrote: "Rick wrote: "Totally. The character has really soured me on rewatching those seasons she’s in. Which is sad, but true. I also feel like it was longer than two and half years. But, am I remembering ..."I'd actually be interested in seeing Rose meet 13.
But, that's mostly to see if fandom would freak out.
Travis wrote: "Has anyone here ordered from Observe Books?They do the novels based on the Cushing Doctor and other odds and ends. ..."
I have not.
Lori S. wrote: "… As for sour feelings, I really, really hope Rose does not make a reappearance in this next season or under RTD's leadership. Gah. I agree.
Britbox now has Blake's 7 and the Champions.There goes all my free time...
Travis wrote: "Britbox now has Blake's 7 and the Champions.There goes all my free time..."
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Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "Has anyone here ordered from Observe Books?They do the novels based on the Cushing Doctor and other odds and ends. ..."
I have not."
Guess I'll be the test case.
Travis wrote: "Britbox now has Blake's 7 and the Champions.There goes all my free time..."
Blake's 7 is a bit more dystopian than I'd thought. Decent story, but a bit too grim to binge.
Champions is one of a bunch of shows that came out when the Avengers was a big money maker.
A trio of agents gain vaguely defined super powers from a mysterious source and fight crime.
Likable cast, but they are no Steed and Mrs Peel.
Fun, but I can see why it only lasted a season.
Falling further into the brit box habit hole:The Cushing Doctor Who movies: Lots of fun. Love Cushing's Doctor and think I prefer movie Susan to TV Susan.
The movie console room is pretty rubbish, aside from the chair the Doctor made sure to install.
Shame they never did a third, as I'd have loved to have seen the Cushing version of 'The Chase".
I was thinking the Daleks’ Masterplan, but which ever.
Rick wrote: "I was thinking the Daleks’ Masterplan, but which ever."That would have been awesome as well.
I just want a huge series of him and movie Susan having adventures.
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The movie console room is pretty rubbish, aside from the chair the Doctor made sure to install."
That's why they're so charming though. Dr. Who is a tinkerer, someone who puts things together to see if he can and because he can, the aesthetics are all background noise. I like that his TARDIS looks like it's full of things he randomly dragged out of the house and stuck in control room because he felt it needed to be there.
I personally like the second movie better, but the characters are interesting and relationships work for the characters in both movies. Not to mention our favorite future grandfather, Bernard Cribbins, shows up in a Who related story for the first time.
The movies are played more for laughs in some ways and played far less seriously than the TV serials, but then, I cannot see movie audiences willingly sitting through Invasion of Earth as it was played out over several episodes in a movie theatre. Definitely not in the 60s at least. These days, after LOTR, Braveheart, Titanic, among others, they might have the patience for it ...
Now there’s a thought! Every week at your neighborhood theater, you get another new episode from the latest Doctor Who serial as a bonus for your ticket to that week’s feature. That would get people coming back week after week … oh wait, yeah, Hollywood tried that in the 1930s & 1940s, television killed the serials. Although 🤔 the MCU is a serial of features. We definitely need Doctor Who on the big screen with a new adventure every couple months, just like the MCU.
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Question is, would BBC be able to put out that kind of money and would their subscribers actually go for it? The way I understand it, you pay a "tax" on each TV you own and this "tax"? is what fuels BBC's TV programming each month/year.
That's why, when producers go into to pitch their programs, they have to know how many episodes there will be up front, and what the story will about before going in. This is why most BBC programs are only about 6 episodes long on average. Doctor Who is an outlier with 13, though not this year, I guess. Or, if you have something truly popular, you might get 4 or 5 stories of about 1-1/2 long or so, like Midsomer Murders or Poirot and Mrs. Marple.
Thus the two Peter Cushing movies weren't BBC produced, and, since Terry Nation owned the rights to the Daleks, he could negotiate with the production company to make feature films out two of his most popular stories at the time. Also, Dalekmania was all the rage.
Lori S. wrote: "Question is, would BBC be able to put out that kind of money and would their subscribers actually go for it? The way I understand it, you pay a "tax" on each TV you own and this "tax"? is what fuels BBC's TV programming each month/year...."I know, I know, I’m just wool gathering aloud. It’s so odd, this whole BBC thing with the franchise. They can’t make profit off the franchise, only license off merchandising aspects. It’s so antithetical from a purely capitalist perspective. Instead of maximizing the potential of the franchise, they’re limited to an archaic formula of production. It’s so frustrating.
Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "The Cushing Doctor Who movies: Lots of fun. Love Cushing's Doctor and think I prefer movie Susan to TV Susan.The movie console room is pretty rubbish, aside from the chair the Doct..."
I don't mind a cluttered console room, just don't like that Cushing because it doesn't actually have a console
and aside from the comfy chair is kind of ugly. A couple of the pieces are good, but as a whole it doesn't work for me.
I do agree the second movie is better and Bernard is a better companion than Roy Castle's Ian.
I don't find the movies any sillier than the TV show.
Roy Castle was apparently known more as a comedian, so they let him do some bits, but otherwise, it has a good 60's Who vibe.
Cushing is a great Doctor and I actually prefer movie Susan.
Really wish they'd gotten to do a couple more.
Might have been tricky, as they were running out of Dalek stories and only had the rights to stuff Nation had written, so we might have gotten Keys of Marinus and Chase movie.
So, I somehow ended up signed up for the eaglemoss newsletter.Been avoiding them, as they put out a ton of stuff and I have limited shelf space...until I saw the collection of Tardis console models.
They have them for nearly all the Doctors and they look so pretty.
My latest Cushing Doctor thought: A movie where they got Christopher Lee to play the Celestial Toymaker.
Travis wrote: "My latest Cushing Doctor thought: A movie where they got Christopher Lee to play the Celestial Toymaker."Nice
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I'd watch that.
Creature from the pit: Only one episode in and I'm confused.I could swear I've seen this one before, but have no memory of anything.
Kind of a weird feeling.
Different guy doing K-9's voice. Don't like it.
Dialogue is great and I love the wolf weeds.
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I think that's most people's reaction the story.
I know it's got a dodgy reputation, but I quite liked it.Nice fluffy romp with loads of clever dialogue and a fun idea.
Just the thing after a rough week at work.
Be fun to if it come back in a novel, comic or BF.
See how the medieval planet and the giant blobs learn to get along.
Lori S. wrote: "Travis wrote: "Creature from the pit: Only one episode in and I'm confused."I think that's most people's reaction the story."
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First off: my screening of DUNE was filled with medical emergencies. About halfway through, the theater had to stop the film, someone had had a seizure and EMTs had to come. He was okay. He was able to leave the theater on his own. After about 20 minutes they started the film again, running it back a bit. Actually too far. So they stopped it a second time and ran it forward a tad and then restarted it, then the friend I went to go see it with had to leave before the end as she was having trouble breathing. Nothing serious, just a mild panic attack and a reaction to something in the air system. She’s developed an intolerance of anything based off of corn and she’s thinking the amount of popcorn chaff in the air might have set it off (even through her face mask). She’s fine. But the movie? Gorgeous cinematography.
Wonderfully nuanced performances (the ONLY performance I think was better in either of the earlier films was Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck, Josh Brolin was good, but he’s no Patrick Stewart).
Solid adaptation (while I don’t agree with all the choices where it diverted from the book, I do think it worked in adapting it from a literary medium to a visual medium, these kinds of things have to happen in translating adaptations).
Spectacular musical score.
Overall a stunning visual cinematic feast. I can see why it got a seven minute standing ovation at the Venice Film Festival at the film’s world premiere. Definitely at least a 9 out of 10.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Dune next weekend, but everything I've heard is very promising. 🙂
Now I just have to figure out who I’m gonna take to see Eternals with me, since my friend won’t be returning to a cinema anytime soon. Too much popcorn chaff.
Lori S. wrote: "Wow. You had quite movie experience, Rick!I'm looking forward to seeing Dune next weekend, but everything I've heard is very promising. 🙂"
I'm probably going to catch it on streaming.
Too crazy at work for me to get to the theater often.
My fury from the deep DVD showed up!!That and I found a Jules Verne novel I don't already own.
Good start to the week.
Travis wrote: "… That and I found a Jules Verne novel I don't already own. ..."Which one?
My sci-fi bookclub is going to read From the Earth to the Moon in December.
Travis wrote: "My fury from the deep DVD showed up!! ..."I’ve got orders in for Evil of the Daleks and the new edition of The Web of Fear with the lost episode animated.
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "… That and I found a Jules Verne novel I don't already own. ..."Which one?
My sci-fi bookclub is going to read From the Earth to the Moon in December."
Good book.
Not that there are many bad Verne books.
He's one of my faves.
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "My fury from the deep DVD showed up!! ..."I’ve got orders in for Evil of the Daleks and the new edition of The Web of Fear with the lost episode animated."
I pre-ordered Evil and may pre-order Galaxy 4.
I will order Galaxy 4, at some point. When I pull it up on Amazon it lists it as unavailable.
Rick wrote: "I will order Galaxy 4, at some point. When I pull it up on Amazon it lists it as unavailable."It's weird as it's been recommended to me, but seems to have no release date.
Like amazon is just messing with me.
Yep. Same for me. I think the problem is that they know when the UK version is being released, but the US version hasn’t been nailed down yet.
Fury from the deep has arrived...!Let's see...B+W animation...color animation and...reconstruction...?
Choices, choices.
Maybe I'll alternate, to really mess with my wife.
😹😹😹I watched the Black & White, I believe.
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Let's see...B+W animation...color animation and...reconstruction...?
Choices, choices.
Maybe I'll alternate, to really mess with my wife."
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Fury: All Done.Watched Episode 1 in B+W, but neither my wife or I liked it much. Felt very flat.
So, for 2-6 we went with color animation. Much better.
Really great story. I'm pretty sure I've read the Target novel, but had little memory of the story.
Nicely creepy and grey feeling to it all.
Love the couple background easter eggs and Victoria ( never my favorite companion) has a nice arc leading up to her final scene.
Also like that it takes almost no effort to imagine that Tom Baker's 'Seeds of Doom' is a sequel and the seaweed creature is a Krynoid.
Have to admit I hadn’t thought of the possible connection to Seeds of Doom. Makes good sense though.
Rick wrote: "Have to admit I hadn’t thought of the possible connection to Seeds of Doom. Makes good sense though."The explanation of the seaweed monster is just vague enough, that my head cannon went 'It's a Kyrnoid...!" and then no pesky facts popped up to ruin my theory.
Also, can't believe I forgot to mention...very first sonic screwdriver!
Travis wrote: "… very first sonic screwdriver!"Yep! Hello sonic! 😸
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "… very first sonic screwdriver!"Yep! Hello sonic! 😸"
I remember it showing up in the Dominators, and for some reason thought that was the first time, so it was a big surprise.
More babbling: The extras are a lot of fun.Frasier Hines is on my wish list of people I'd love to meet at a con.
Really surprised how much I liked this story.
It was one that never seemed to get much attention.
After I’d read about it in About Time 2: The Unauthorized Guide to Doctor Who, I was enormously frustrated because it was lost and I bought I’d never get to see it. I was thrilled when they announced it was going to be animated. Sadly, because so much of Troughton’s era has been lost, I feel that he’s the “forgotten Doctor” in a lot of ways. His era deserves so much more attention and recognition that it gets.
Anderson watch continues:Terrahawks episode 1: Wow, that was insane.
Like the model work and the sphere robots, but the 'realistic' puppets can look creepy and the casual racism for humorous effect causes a bit of cringe.
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Totally. The character has really soured me o..."
The combination of Clara becoming ultra magical girl and being used to explore if the Doctor/companion relationship went wrong and unhealthy just kind of ruined her for me.
I like a couple of her early appearances, but toward the end, she's unlikable and it becomes hard to watch.
And then, Moffat rewarded all her bad behavior...!