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Did you hear that Dune got an 8 minute standing ovation after the Venice Film Festival premiere! 🙀😻😻
Travis wrote: "You mean the animated Thunderbirds streaming on amazon?If so, the animation in the trailer wasn't great.
Bummer.
Where's the JJ Abrams Space: 1999 reboot to make them a hot property?
Why are they the one franchise Disney hasn't tried to buy?"
Actually I meant the film from 2004 directed by Jonathan Frakes. And I’d really rather not have Abrams destroy yet another franchise I love. He’s a menace to longtime fans everywhere.
Matthew wrote: "Rick wrote: "Well, the recent Thunderbirds didn’t get received well (although I rather enjoyed it) and didn’t make much money. So until it can be shown to be profitable properties I don’t think the..."While sad, that makes sense.
Always a shame when the rights holder doesn't seem to have much interest in the thing they own.
Didn't know about the books.
Have to check those out.
Rick wrote: "Did you hear that Dune got an 8 minute standing ovation after the Venice Film Festival premiere! 🙀😻😻"Much as I love the books, I'm kind of lukewarm on the movie.
Great cast and the trailer had some cool visuals, but I liked the David Lynch version.
So, it feels like a remake of something I already like.
Probably check it out on streaming, but won't be on my theater list.
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "You mean the animated Thunderbirds streaming on amazon?If so, the animation in the trailer wasn't great.
Bummer.
Where's the JJ Abrams Space: 1999 reboot to make them a hot propert..."
Don't love the 2004 movie, but don't hate it.
turning it into a kids movie was a misstep, but I they kept the original designs.
Calm down, I'm not promoting Abrams as the one to do the movie, just saying, that with a big, splashy bit of Hollywood love, the Andersonverse could easily become the next big thing and get the attention it deserves.
I forgot how Abrams sets you off.
Matthew, I missed your comment. But yes, it was the movie. Yeah it was a kids film that had some problems, but I still enjoyed the film.
Question of the day: Is there a historical period you'd like to see the Doctor visit?I will accept answers that are return visits if it's a time you really liked or have a particular Doctor in mind.
My picks:
American revolution: either a story set in the colonies, or if it's in Europe it has to include a Ben Franklin team up.
1600's: Especially if it includes grand exploring sea voyages or features aliens or a renegade time lord messing with the whole Spanish Armada thing.
1800s: set in Canadian wilderness, where a Yeti robot is mistaken for Bigfoot.
I’d love to have a story set in either the mid to late 1930s leading up to the incident of Herschel Grynszpan shooting the Nazi officer Ernst vom Rath in Paris that lead to the launch of the Kristallnacht event that ignited the German people into openly attacking Jewish people, or during Grynszpan’s trial or perhaps focusing on what happened to him after he was sentenced into a death camp. He was 17 when the shooting occurred and the motivations and events leading up to the incident are still, and will likely always be, shrouded in mystery and theory.
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Glad to hear Shang-chi is good.
Never got into the Thunderbirds, but glad people are enjoying what's out there.
Goodreads is undergoing changes again, so hang in there.
DW historical visit:
Post Am. Revolution during the creation of the Constitution. Might a little too ambitious though ...
Encountering Harry Houdini at various points in his timeline.
The Yukon during the Gold Rush (more Yeti potential!).
The Battle of Los Angeles in 1942: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battl... ... The Doctor & Co. chase some alien anomoly only to stumble upon the action in the photo ...
Rick wrote: "I’d love to have a story set in either the mid to late 1930s leading up to the incident of Herschel Grynszpan shooting the Nazi officer Ernst vom Rath in Paris that lead to the launch of the Krista..."Wow!
You went deep dive into history for your pick.
Lori S. wrote: "Life got away from me this month. Glad to hear Shang-chi is good.
Never got into the Thunderbirds, but glad people are enjoying what's out there.
Goodreads is undergoing changes again, so hang..."
I was thinking Canadian logging camp for my Yeti idea, but Yukon would be a fun setting too.
Did the Doctor meet Houdini in one of the novels or BF?
Be fun, especially, if it's during his seance busting days.
I know Houdini gets name dropped by numerous Doctors. So it’s certainly THERE. Don’t know if it’s been done yet though. I’d also love a really well done fanfic of the Doctor meeting Indiana Jones. But then I’d also LOVE one with the Doctor meeting Doc Savage.
Rick wrote: "I know Houdini gets name dropped by numerous Doctors. So it’s certainly THERE. Don’t know if it’s been done yet though. I’d also love a really well done fanfic of the Doctor meeting Indiana Jones..."
Just do a big team with all the characters with Doctor in their name: Who, Savage, Jones and Strange.
Travis wrote: "Just do a big team with all the characters with Doctor in their name: Who, Savage, Jones and Strange."Actually, there’s a precedent… Doctor Strange is contacted by the Doctor (with Bill, Nardol and Missy), that there’s a threat to the fabric of spacetime that is growing out of of mid-1930s. But the Doctor can’t reach the time period without some mystical intervention: the TARDIS has been locked temporally from that period through some weird device that the Daleks had just exploded in the Time War. So, Doctor Strange summons up one of his Secret Defenders teams and Doc Samson and the Superior Spider-Man (aka a clone of Peter Parker with the mind of Doctor Otto Octavios) to travel back in time to the mid-1930s. But as the TARDIS is blocked, the heroes turn to the only known working time machine, currently in the hands of its creator, Doctor Doom. Upon arriving in the early-1930s, through some incorrect temporal calibration they meet up with Doc Savage and his crew to battle, not only Daleks trying to build a deadly weapon into the structure of the Empire State Building (which Doc has been financing for his future headquarters) but also a deadly and sinister plot of the fiendish Doctor Fu Manchu to use the Daleks as pawns in his own scheme of world domination. In the ensuing escapades, the group meets up with the 10th Doctor, Martha, Tallulah, Laszlo, Frank, Dr. Henry Jones and his son “Indiana” (who is still working on finishing up his PhD in archaeology) who have been trying to prevent the Daleks from completing their plans, but the added threat of Fu Manchu and the effects of the Daleks Time War manipulations have already altered history as had previously occurred. Then allegiances switch and contort while the Doctor Doom, Missy, the Daleks and Fu Manchu each to gain control of the various plots, but then turn on each other for control of these various schemes. Doom, Missy and Fu Manchu eventually side with the heroes to defeat the Daleks in hopes of staving off a spacetime collapse.
How does that sound for a nutshell pitch?
I just saw the trailer for the new Hawkeye series from Marvel on Disney+ … OMLoki! This looks HILARIOUS!
Lori S. wrote: "Rick, that sounds great!"I might actually to write this one. 😹😹😹
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "Just do a big team with all the characters with Doctor in their name: Who, Savage, Jones and Strange."Actually, there’s a precedent… Doctor Strange is contacted by the Doctor (with..."
Wow!
You went full League of extraordinary gentlemen with your idea.
Back to the grand rewatch:Armageddon Factor: 3 episodes in and boy, is this one a bit of a mess.
Like the interactions between the three leads, but the supporting cast is not being given a ton to work with.
Really feels like a 4 parter they were asked to stretch out for the big finale.
Travis wrote: "… Really feels like a 4 parter they were asked to stretch out for the big finale. "Very often, a lot of the 6-parters felt like that. I thought anyway.
Travis wrote: "Wow! You went full League of extraordinary gentlemen with your idea."Well, you put the idea of anyone named Doctor into my head and I just went nuts! 😹
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "… Really feels like a 4 parter they were asked to stretch out for the big finale. "Very often, a lot of the 6-parters felt like that. I thought anyway."
DW is usually pretty good at it.
This story...not so much.
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "Wow! You went full League of extraordinary gentlemen with your idea."Well, you put the idea of anyone named Doctor into my head and I just went nuts! 😹"
The Tales of the Shadowmen series uses all public domain characters, when I write a story for them (available at amazon.com: subtle plug), sometimes I'll just start with 'I want to write about pirates' and just make a list and see what inspires me.
I generally have fun, but it can easily out of control.
Travis wrote: "The Tales of the Shadowmen ..."I’ve not read any of those yet, they seem interesting.
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "The Tales of the Shadowmen ..."I’ve not read any of those yet, they seem interesting."
I was a big fan of Blackout press before they started letting me write for them.
If you are into victorian to pre-WW2 pulp, mystery and sci-fi, they are a great source for reprints and some new stuff.
Travis wrote: "I was a big fan of Blackout press before they started letting me write for them. If you are into victorian to pre-WW2 pulp, mystery and sci-fi, they are a great source for reprints and some new stuff."Does this mean that you destroyed them? Or that you now realize how Scrooge-like they are? Not sure how to interpret what you wrote. 😼
On the other hand, I do love Doc Savage & the Avenger (I’ve read all the classic books for both characters); and I also enjoy the Shadow & the Spider; and I enjoy several others from that era as well. But that era also gave us H.P. Lovecraft and Robert E. Howard. Not to mention ERB, Jules Verne & H.G. Wells - so yeah, I’m a big time fan of that era.
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "I was a big fan of Blackout press before they started letting me write for them. If you are into victorian to pre-WW2 pulp, mystery and sci-fi, they are a great source for reprints a..."Yeah, that sentence was clunky.
Meant to imply, I wasn't just pitching the series to be self-serving.
As a big fan of victorian sci-fi and pulp, getting introduced to the French version of all that was thrilling to me.
Seeing all the classic types filtered through a different culture/sensibilities was very cool.
Prisoner watch: Halfway!It's your funeral: fun, twisty turny story. Really good cast.
My urge to write Prisoner fanfic gets stronger with every episode.
Travis wrote: "Prisoner watch: Halfway!It's your funeral: fun, twisty turny story. Really good cast.
My urge to write Prisoner fanfic gets stronger with every episode."
Oh yeah! 😸
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "Prisoner watch: Halfway!It's your funeral: fun, twisty turny story. Really good cast.
My urge to write Prisoner fanfic gets stronger with every episode."
Oh yeah! 😸"
Still love my idea of a version of the village populated entirely by TV and movie spies, but also have a couple scribbled for plain old Prisoner ones as well.
Armageddon Factor: Well, I wish I liked that more than I did.Some very good parts that come together to form a very unsatisfying whole.
Padding is painfully obvious, supporting cast seems to have no idea what to do with the little bit they are given to do and Tom's mood is all over the place.
For a grand finale to the Key saga and the season it kind of lands with a thud.
Lots of great K-9 action, Drax is fun, there's some cool ideas and I do like Rommana.
Gonna miss her ( sort of)
I agree. Armageddon Factor is kind of a dud for me as well. And I did like Romana 1 more than Romana 2, but they’re both pretty cool.
Rick wrote: "I agree. Armageddon Factor is kind of a dud for me as well. And I did like Romana 1 more than Romana 2, but they’re both pretty cool."There's lots of bits I like, but it just can't pull them together.
It's more frustrating, than bad.
Was fun seeing the two Romana actresses having scenes together.
So I just tortured myself by watching Zack Snyder’s Justice League and … Wow! Even with an extra four years to work on this (and who knows how much more money he weaseled Warner Bros out of), Snyder still couldn't pull this steaming pile of … waste product … into anything more than a super disappointment. Is it better than the theatrical version? Well, sure. But then Snyder had that extra 4 years to prop up and fill in all the problems the film had the first time and at least an extra hour of footage to clean up all the plot holes. If you give anyone another four years (and tons of extra money) they can make a better movie than the one previously released. So, saying it’s better than the theatrical release isn’t saying much at all. I would have thought that given all the extra time and money and resources and a chance to really see what worked and what didn’t, Snyder could have made the perfect film. Instead he delivers more of the same diaper load he’s been pawning off on audiences for years.
Rick wrote: "So I just tortured myself by watching Zack Snyder’s Justice League and … Wow! Even with an extra four years to work on this (and who knows how much more money he weaseled Warner Bros out of), Snyde..."And this is my shocked face...
My daughter and I have talked about with our obsessive streak, we will break down and watch the whole sage, but neither of us have much enthusiasm for it.
Snyder wants to do Batman, especially Frank Miller Batman, but he also wants to pull in the rest of the DC heroes, and like Miller, Snyder does not get anybody but Batman...and him just barely.
Shame, as it's a really solid cast, and they must all be pretty sad that they aren't getting the MCU level of love, fame and money, but they put the wrong guy in charge.
Travis wrote: "… they put the wrong guy in charge. "Yep. That’s what happens when you put a feckless, narcissistic, asshat in charge … wait … I forgot … were we talking about tRump?
Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "… they put the wrong guy in charge. "Yep. That’s what happens when you put a feckless, narcissistic, asshat in charge … wait … I forgot … were we total king about tRump?"
Nope.
I'm on vacation.
No politics for me.
Snyder is basically the movie version of when Marvel let Mark Millar be head guy on their Ultimate line, because he was all dark and edgy and the kids loved that stuff
and then the Ultimate line crashed and burned so bad that the only thing that survived was some costume redesigns and Miles Morales.
Just finished Star Trek Discovery Season 3. I do enjoy this series, I LOVE the characters, but I don’t think it’s ever going to beat Deep Space Nine as my favorite of the franchise. Although Star Trek Picard might just have a shot at beating out DS9. We’ll have to see how the second season holds up, if it’s as well written as the first season … DS9 might be in trouble.
My daughter is currently watching TOS.It's been fun, seeing Trek from the very beginning and, in my case, rewatching shows I haven't seen in probably 20 years.
Not a ton of enthusiasm for current Trek, but I keep meaning to check the new shows out.
Been watching a lot of anime lately, and I feel sad that there has never been an attempt to do a Doctor Who anime.It would be amazing to take the Who-universe and merge it with the style and tropes of anime.
A doctor with that spiked hair and an anime school girl companion!
Have the historicals set in Japanese history.
Hard to believe it's never been attempted.
Feel very weird about marvel's What if...? series, as I'm really enjoying it, but lord is the writing a mess...!
Speaking of Trek: The trailer for Prodigy is an odd mix of "oh, cool!" and 'What the heck...?"
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It would be amazing to take the Who-universe and merge it with the style and trop..."
Honestly? SHUDDER Anime has its place, but turning the Doctor (more than likely Ten) into a anime character? No thanks! Also, those bloody high pitched female voices drive me nuts (think Mel levels of screeching).
Also, I guess it may be my age at work here, but there are times I find the style of anime somewhat off-putting, which is a shame, since some of it is very good (I do like Mushi-shi for instance and the stuff putt out by Clamp and Ghibli is well done). I find I very much prefer Western style cartooning a lot of the time, though.
Besides, Doctor Who has its own type of animation. In the 90s when no TV serial was on the horizon, there was a webcast called The Scream of the Shalka (https://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/class...), starring Richard E. Grant as the Doctor. The later cartooning in the missing episodes may not be great, but I like it well enough.
There was also the animated story, The Infinite Quest (https://youtu.be/HPMAM30xAwU). Maybe not quite as fluid as anime, more to my personal liking. On the other hand, we haven't gotten any more of that sort of thing, so maybe it just didn't fly well. Who knows. Matthew?
I also rather liked the 10th Doctor animated adventure Dreamland. Actually, I liked it more than Infinite Quest. And I do enjoy the animated classic Doctor adventures for those that the video is lost, I think the animators have done a great job, for the most part, of capturing the feel and sensibility of that era.
Big fan of Scream of the Shalka.Pretty sure I have the DVD and the novel kicking around here somewhere.
and yeah, some anime and anime tropes are annoying as can be, but I enjoy a good chunk of it, especially when it does weird sci-fi adventure.
I'm just surprised that there's never been an attempt, and it's an interesting thought experiment at what anime Who would be like.
I’ve only seen the first 2 episodes of What If? I’ve liked them both. But I don’t have a real feel for the whole series yet.
No idea what to think of Star Trek Prodigy yet.
Rick wrote: "I’ve only seen the first 2 episodes of What If? I’ve like them both. But I don’t have a real feel for the whole series yet."
Again, I like the show, but that's despite the writing.
It's a weird beast.
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