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message 2051: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
And Gabi, I love it when the younger generation likes what I like! I'm trying to play it cool with a few series for youngsters right now. What a treat to get to share Discworld with your kids!


colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2719 comments Allison wrote: "I'll give out points if it gets fewer characters who "waste bitchy glares" on dudes or have some sort of hypersensitivity in their areolas. "

Ok, weird random aside -

But this made me remember one day when I was walking and I suddenly thought, "You know, I'm nowhere near as aware of what my boobs are doing as GRRM seems to think I should be... "


message 2053: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (last edited Jul 27, 2018 06:24AM) (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
colleen the convivial curmudgeon wrote: "Allison wrote: "I'll give out points if it gets fewer characters who "waste bitchy glares" on dudes or have some sort of hypersensitivity in their areolas. "

Ok, weird random aside -

But this ma..."


Haha right! My friends (probably stolen from tumblr) have an expression for when people with no concept of the feminine world try to write it. They call it a "she breasted boobily across the room" book.

This covers awareness of your body outside of what it's not helping you do, some sort of emotional disorder where you slingshot from flirty to sobbing to towering rage inside a conversation, deciding on heels for fighting because looking good is half the battle, and knowing your measurements but not how attractive you likely are in the modern era.


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Trike Jess wrote: "As the wonderful George R.R. Martin said when asked how he manages to write such great and varied female characters.

"You know I've always considered women to be people." "


o.0

Martin is not exactly a feminist exemplar. I find it baffling how he gets that reputation. It’s like how Niven is considered “hard SF” when he barely has any actual science in his books at all.

I suppose it’s because the rest of literature, especially Fantasy, has such a dearth of well-written women that any attempt at getting it right feels like a cool drink of water in a desert.


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Anna (vegfic) | 10431 comments I have an 11yo friend who is equipped with girl parts, but always pretends to be a boy when we play make believe stuff. At one time she, pretending to be a boy, walked in a funny way with her legs wide apart. I asked her why, and she pointed to her crotch and said "You know, to leave room for those!" :D


message 2056: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Trike wrote: "I suppose it’s because the rest of literature, especially Fantasy, has such a dearth of well-written women that any attempt at getting it right feels like a cool drink of water in a desert.."

Very excited about a future where participation trophies aren't needed for discussing half the human population.


message 2057: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Anna wrote: "I have an 11yo friend who is equipped with girl parts, but always pretends to be a boy when we play make believe stuff. At one time she, pretending to be a boy, walked in a funny way with her legs ..."

LOL! This is the opposite of breasting boobily.


message 2058: by Trike (new)

Trike Anna wrote: "I have an 11yo friend who is equipped with girl parts, but always pretends to be a boy when we play make believe stuff. At one time she, pretending to be a boy, walked in a funny way with her legs wide apart. I asked her why, and she pointed to her crotch and said "You know, to leave room for those!" :D "

She’s a baller.

You read that right: I just dadpunned a teen slang.


message 2059: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Trike wrote: "Anna wrote: "I have an 11yo friend who is equipped with girl parts, but always pretends to be a boy when we play make believe stuff. At one time she, pretending to be a boy, walked in a funny way w..."

LOL!


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CBRetriever | 6126 comments colleen the convivial curmudgeon wrote: "Allison wrote: "I'll give out points if it gets fewer characters who "waste bitchy glares" on dudes or have some sort of hypersensitivity in their areolas. "

Ok, weird random aside -

But this ma..."


I think it's a Mars-Venus thing. Perhaps men are more aware of and think with their body parts than women do?


colleen the convivial curmudgeon (blackrose13) | 2719 comments Anna wrote: "I have an 11yo friend who is equipped with girl parts, but always pretends to be a boy when we play make believe stuff. At one time she, pretending to be a boy, walked in a funny way with her legs ..."


Apparently she is already familiar with the "man spreading".


message 2062: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
This conversation is lovely, I've made a thread so we can continue it without me having to yell at me for being off-topic.

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


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Richard Derus (expendablemudge) | 36 comments Allison wrote: "LOL! This is the opposite of breasting boobily."

I think we can call those books "he swung his wide stance" books.


message 2064: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Richard wrote: "Allison wrote: "LOL! This is the opposite of breasting boobily."

I think we can call those books "he swung his wide stance" books."


XD I'm dead.


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Francisca | 228 comments To get back "on topic" - I just finished the last of Marie Brennan's Memoirs of Lady Trent, Within the Sanctuary of Wings, which was an utterly delightful finale to the series. I really recommend these for anyone looking for something fairly lighthearted, but with a lot of heart! It's a great premise (the main character is a young woman in Victorian age obsessed with dragons who dreams of being a scientist to study them) that's pretty well-executed. The only thing that annoyed me is that she creates this whole "parallel history" with different names, which works pretty well since they're pretty transparent but I kept having to remind myself "oh wait, I think that's France? Or maybe Russia?".


message 2066: by Beth (last edited Jul 27, 2018 07:59AM) (new)

Beth (rosewoodpip) | 2003 comments Kitchen Confidential: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly I had barely heard of Anthony Bourdain before he passed, and would never have thought to try his books. A friend recommended this one on audio and I enjoyed it way more than I expected.

Bourdain's snappy, charismatic narration adds a star all by itself. Review here.


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Lowell (schyzm) | 578 comments Jen wrote: "Lowell wrote: "I am hoping to use it to reinforce the personal changes with eating I need to make"

His book Presto! How I Made Over 100 Pounds Disappear and Other Magical Tales hel..."


You know, that was the book I was trying to link. I was having web issues yesterday at work, and was trying to tap out the post a bit too fast. OOPS.

Anyhow, it's quite funny so far, but damn, I can't listen to it in the car with my kids. it's a bit too vulgar.


message 2068: by Anna (last edited Jul 27, 2018 10:41AM) (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10431 comments I kind of want to start a new audiobook to listen to as I watch tonight's lunar eclipse, but I don't know what to pick! I just finished Record of a Spaceborn Few, and am not really in the mood for anything right after. But it'd be so cool a listen to something appropriate. Why didn't I think of this sooner?!

I was going to go out with people to watch the eclipse, but it's too hot, so I'll be enjoying it from the privacy of my own balcony, which conveniently faces exactly in the right direction.


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Michele | 1215 comments Anthony wrote: "Just finished The Watchmaker of Filigree Street and enjoyed it, although I did find the writing to be a bit too subtle and elusive at times. But there were surprising colors in the ..."

Yes! I loved that book. So odd and twisty-turny :)


message 2070: by Michele (new)

Michele | 1215 comments I picked up a books-on-CD of Fay Weldon's Habits of the House from our library deaccession shelf ($1!). Listening to it on the drive to/from work. So far I like it a lot.


message 2071: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Allison wrote: "And Gabi, I love it when the younger generation likes what I like! I'm trying to play it cool with a few series for youngsters right now. What a treat to get to share Discworld with your kids!"

I'm really happy that it works! I want them to find their own ways, develop their own tastes, but can't resist a bit of nudging into the direction I deem appropriate for good literature (since I'm still failing to get them into my kind of TV series ;) ). And Terry Pratchett is a wonderful way to playfully tackle issues like sexuality or racism.

Meanwhile I've finished The Changeling and I'm still pondering about my feels about the book.

(btw ... I managed to get the 12 books I wanted to read for this year done in one month (I joined GR beginning of July) - I should slow down ;) )


message 2072: by Anna (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10431 comments Gabi wrote: "btw ... I managed to get the 12 books I wanted to read for this year done in one month (I joined GR beginning of July) - I should slow down ;)"

Now you get to update your goal and enjoy reaching it all over again! Best part of all challenges.


message 2075: by Esther (new)

Esther (eshchory) | 555 comments I have finished Head On, second in the Lock in series, which I thoroughly enjoyed and am now reading Wyntertide, second in the Rotherweird series, which is enchanting so far.

I seem to be doing better this year in following series. Now I just need to get my reviews back of track.


message 2077: by Anthony (last edited Jul 29, 2018 01:26AM) (new)

Anthony (albinokid) | 1482 comments I picked up Royal Assassin and I’m glad I did. I find her writing to be so assured and clear and subtle, and her characterizations are rich and alive. Since GRRM has recently come up in this thread, I have to say I’m shocked her work hasn’t yet been adapted for the screen, but I fear this series would be unfairly compared to GoT, even though hers came first.


message 2078: by Pam (new)

Pam Baddeley Phrynne wrote: "My review of The Owl Service by Alan Garner The Owl Service by Alan Garner

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show..."


Great review Phyrnne. You've reminded me to re-read this!


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Phrynne Pam wrote: "Phrynne wrote: "My review of The Owl Service by Alan Garner The Owl Service by Alan Garner

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show..."

Great review Phyrnne. Y..."


Thanks Pam. I am now watching the original TV series on You Tube. It's pretty good for when it was made!


message 2080: by Beth (new)

Beth | 211 comments This month I've read The Obelisk Gate and reread Little, Big, which brings me to 11 of 12 books for the SFBC Read all the Books Challenge.

The Obelisk Gate was excellent. I placed a hold on The Stone Sky in OverDrive.

Little, Big was definitely worth rereading. I read it this weekend for Dewey's readathon.

I'll have a look at the group's discussion threads for both books when I get a chance.


message 2081: by WreckEm711 (new)

WreckEm711 (ttualum13) I’m about halfway through A Wise Man’s Fear, and have been absolutely useless at adulting as I’ve worked my way through it. If I’m not reading it, I’m thinking about reading it, so I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I’m just going to be useless until I’ve finished it :)


message 2083: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Selton wrote: "I’m about halfway through A Wise Man’s Fear, and have been absolutely useless at adulting as I’ve worked my way through it. If I’m not reading it, I’m thinking about reading it, so I’ve resigned my..."

That's such a relatable feeling! I love getting swept up in books. I hate that I can't JUST get swept up though. What do you mean I have to "shower"? Let's just order a week's worth of fried rice, and tell everyone at work I'll answer them once Kvothe gets around to this kingkilling I've heard so much about!


message 2084: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Kirsten wrote: "I'm reading The Good Daughter by Karin Slaughter and listening to Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI by [author:Da..."

Spooky reads! Do you find they're augmenting each other's suspense?


message 2085: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Allison wrote: "Kirsten wrote: "I'm reading The Good Daughter by Karin Slaughter and listening to [book:Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI|2949607..."

Not quite yet. I'm only in the historical section of Flower Moon. It's more a sense of outrage at people's attitude towards the Osage right now. The Good Daughter and is pacing really well. Karin Slaughter is an excellent writer and great at ratcheting up tension.


message 2086: by Trike (new)

Trike Kirsten wrote: "I'm reading The Good Daughter by Karin Slaughter and listening to Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI

Killers of the Flower Moon is horrifying on every level and great.

My non-spoiler review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 2087: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Trike wrote: "Kirsten wrote: "I'm reading The Good Daughter by Karin Slaughter and listening to [book:Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI|2949607..."

Thanks, I've been looking forward to it. I really liked Grann's previous book.


message 2088: by Udayan (new)

Udayan | 65 comments Began The Tea Master and the Detective. The opening is strongly reminiscent of Ancillary Justice !!


message 2089: by Dawn F (new)

Dawn F (psychedk) | 1223 comments Anthony wrote: "Just finished The Watchmaker of Filigree Street and enjoyed it, although I did find the writing to be a bit too subtle and elusive at times. But there were surprising colors in the narrative, via emotional beats and plot twists, that made it worthwhile. An intriguing debut novel by Natasha Pulley."

Michelle wrote: "Yes! I loved that book. So odd and twisty-turny :)"


Watchmaker is one of my favorite new books <3


message 2090: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Udayan wrote: "Began The Tea Master and the Detective. The opening is strongly reminiscent of Ancillary Justice !!"

In style or in content? Is it about AI?


message 2091: by Udayan (new)

Udayan | 65 comments Both :)


message 2092: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Udayan wrote: "Both :)"

Iiiinteresting.


message 2093: by Richard (new)

Richard Derus (expendablemudge) | 36 comments Am currently reading Methland: The Death and Life of an American Small Town and wishing it was dystopian fiction.


message 2094: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
I'll make this announcement in thread, too, but if anyone has any triggers, please note that The Changeling so far has a few pretty standard ones. I'm enjoying the story overall, but advise caution. Happy to go into more specifics and/or provide topics that I know to be triggery for some of you.


message 2095: by Anna (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10431 comments Parable of the Sower should also come with a bunch of content warnings, I'll ask Allison to add those to the thread starter on Wednesday.


message 2096: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Anna wrote: "Parable of the Sower should also come with a bunch of content warnings, I'll ask Allison to add those to the thread starter on Wednesday."

Definitely!


message 2097: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
I think Parable of the Sower starts off "And Allison, just don't read this one. Just don't."

Unfortunate, but I bow to the discretion of the author.


message 2098: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) I really enjoyed Parable of the Sower.


message 2099: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14225 comments Mod
Kirsten wrote: "I really enjoyed Parable of the Sower."

Yeah! I'm sad I can't read it, but excited to stalk follow the conversations about it anyways!


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