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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
I've read till Chapter 20. Didn't expect it would be this smooth. Can we finish Part1 today if you're up for it... and not already finished part1 :P
Where are you? Went to England? (That Coco Roti part?)

Also I'm not able to get the books references when the Hindi translated names are given. Could identify only Leo Tolstoy.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Is there any difference between अन्नाहार and शाकाहार??


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Gorab wrote: "Is there any difference between अन्नाहार and शाकाहार??"

Veganism vs vegetarianism?? 🤔🤔
Don't know.


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Gorab wrote: "Also I'm not able to get the books references when the Hindi translated names are given. Could identify only Leo Tolstoy. .."

I did a search for the Geeta translator.
He's Edwin Arnold.
The book on Buddhism MKG talked about, it's probably The Light of Asia. It's a poetry. Free on Kindle. Have a look, please!


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Gorab wrote: "Arpit wrote: "You couldn't find any other word! xD xD"

बचपन से महात्मा थे जी!"


Finally you saw the light!


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Gorab wrote: "In that case, Coco and Roti would be a really weird combo :\

Not only he wasn't a good husband in the beginning, but he wasn't later too... Alrighty he is the father of the nation and all, but he ..."



I guess by roti he meant bread, not chapati, so it's not much of an unusual combo! I mean bread and coffee is a normal combo na, so boiled cocoa with bread...um... Shouldn't be that bad 😬


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Gorab wrote: "Kasturba would have been bolder than the stereotype "pati parmeshawar" wife. Would be interesting to read her autobio. I'm expecting some good thrashing as Bapu renounced all his responsibilties and poor lady had to raise family on her own. "

Honestly, I found Kasturba's character very weak so far. I mean MKG didn't mention her much yet, and it doesn't seem that her arrival in MKG's life had any effect.
So far, she seems just a usual Bhartiya Pativrata Nari, who just happened to be the wife of an usual man.

MKG experimented a lot with his marriage life, and I think Kasturba simply accepted it all.


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I took some pictures of paras I thought worth discussing, but it's troublesome to copy the text from the picture.
I guess I'll use a high-lighter from now on

Will post some of them tomorrow :)


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Aarti wrote: "Arpit wrote: "Gorab wrote: "Kasturba would have been bolder than the stereotype "pati parmeshawar" wife. Would be interesting to read her autobio. I'm expecting some good thrashing as Bapu renounce..."

I meant to write "experimented", but in my absent mindedness it turned out to be "experienced" 😬
My comment on Kasturbai was based on the stuff so far we've read -that is, very little. I do hope that what you said -her being a strong, independent woman- comes true later.


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Aarti wrote: "Gorab wrote: "Is there any difference between अन्नाहार and शाकाहार??"

I think Annahar meaning you can eat cooked food and shakahar means eating only vegetables."


That could be true.
Also, Gorab, you know some Jains don't eat अन्न after sunset, but they do take fruits and natural stuff. So what Aarti said might be true.


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Aarti wrote: "Arpit wrote: "Aarti wrote: "Arpit wrote: "Gorab wrote: "Kasturba would have been bolder than the stereotype "pati parmeshawar" wife. Would be interesting to read her autobio. I'm expecting some goo..."

No, you didn't. I edited it later :P


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Welcome RT :)

Coco Roti now makes sense.... like we have chai bread or doodh bread, at least I can imagine something edible now.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Aarti wrote: "He was the best son and father I think. You have read about his devotion and regrets regarding his father, right?"

And being a good lawyer, he knows how to defend, no? Would be a different story if these kinda words for him came from his father (there are no records for that) or Sons (something like Mahatma Vs Gandhi) or wife's (something like The Secret Diary of Kasturba)

I've not read any of those works....
I didn't like him just leaving her wife and newborn... either take them with you or drop the plan! [I know many people differ on this, its my personal opinion]
Yes the Gandhis were not millionaires....but they were better off compared to general people of that time.

Hffff... bottomline is... I'm extremely loving this book. Because it looks like an honest account. Quite an "experimental" life!


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Arpit wrote: "you know some Jains don't eat अन्न after sunset, but they do take fruits and natural stuff"

Haven't heard about the fruit part. They don't consume anything (except water for few) after sunset.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Shakahar must be vegetarian
Because "Shuddh Shakahari Bhojanalaya" is "Pure Veg Restaurant"

Then I thought Annahar is vegan. But that should be Nirvadyachaar (not consuming anything produced by animals - milk, eggs, honey etc)

Never heard of Annahar. Etymology wise, looks like food consisting of only grains and pulses.... (No green vegetables)


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
I'm almost at the end of Part1. Part2 should be South Africa?


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Gandhi uncle not being a good husband/son/father etc. - दीपक तले अंधेरा। Oh, our ancestors were full of worldly wisdom! How true this proverb/idiom in Gandhi's context!


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Part 2, chap-20!
Couldn't read much. Will finish part 2 tomorrow.


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ये परवाना क्या है? इसका जिक्र पृष्ठ क्रमांक १२१ पर, अंतिम से द्वितीय अनुच्छेद में किया गया है।


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Gorab wrote: "Aarti wrote: "He was the best son and father I think. You have read about his devotion and regrets regarding his father, right?"

And being a good lawyer, he knows how to defend, no? Would be a dif..."


I doubt the credibility of these books, Gorab. Especially the diary one, but can't say much at this moment.

As for leaving his wife and sons, I agree. But I think we are judging the events of 19th century while still wearing our lenses of 21st century. Remember in the first part when Mohan mentioned that he wasn't even allowed to talk to his wife in presence of his family! Considering this, the separation doesn't sound that terrible.
Not to forget the family and society's support, they were closely knit during that time.


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Gorab wrote: "Shakahar must be vegetarian
Because "Shuddh Shakahari Bhojanalaya" is "Pure Veg Restaurant"

Then I thought Annahar is vegan. But that should be Nirvadyachaar (not consuming anything produced by an..."


Then what's the difference between green vegs and pulses/grains? Both are plant products!


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बापू काफी हठी तरह के इंसान मालूम होते हैं (view spoiler)। "चाहे तो सामान फेंक दो, या मुझे फेंको, जो करना है कर लो, पर उतरूंगा किसी हालत में नहीं!"😂😂😂

(view spoiler)


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
What's "SM break"?? What happened to your smartphone/WA??


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
I'm on chapter 16 of part 2. Has heard about that famous train incident, but didn't know there were multiple such instances!


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Arpit wrote: "Gorab wrote: "Aarti wrote: "He was the best son and father I think. You have read about his devotion and regrets regarding his father, right?"

And being a good lawyer, he knows how to defend, no? ..."

Totally agree. Things were a lot different then...


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
दीपक तले अंधेरा - very apt!


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Arpit wrote: "Then what's the difference between green vegs and pulses/grains? Both are plant products!"

No idea :\


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लौकिक शिक्षा vs व्यावहारिक शिक्षा। गांधीजी के मत से मैं सहमत नहीं हूं, और मेरी नज़र में बच्चों को लौकिक शिक्षा उतनी ही महत्वपूर्ण है जितनी कि व्यावहारिक शिक्षा। But again the logic could be used that I'm a product of formal school education, and thus can't fully comprehend the merits of other :/
Now judging by the current scenario, it seems Gandhiji wasn't completely wrong. We need a proper balance between these two extremes. Our current education system has totally ignored the other side (one of the major reason of its failure), the practical side, of the education, the one Gandhi promoted.


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Gorab wrote: "I'm on chapter 16 of part 2. Has heard about that famous train incident, but didn't know there were multiple such instances!"

On part 3, chapter 5! I too only heard of that (in)famous train incident! These attacks are really horrific.


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We have read almost 200 pages, and Mohan doesn't talk about Kasturbai at all!!!!


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I wonder what Gandhiji will think of today's education scenario? He would be totally dissapointed and heart-broken :(


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I hope am not going too fast, buddy, but this is upputdownable!
But let me know if I should slow down _)\_


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Good to see its unputdownable. No no don't slow down. I'll catch up with you in a couple of days or earlier.

Haven't read beyond Chapter 17 of Part 2. Will resume tonight :)
Bapu rocks \m/


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Did you see the trailer of upcoming film "Indu Sarkaar"?


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Emergency and Nasbandi were like a major major deal during Indira's reign. Zilch mention in India after Gandhi! And just a one liner that there were allegations of rigging elections against the PM!


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Gorab wrote: "Did you see the trailer of upcoming film "Indu Sarkaar"?"

Just watched it.
I found it kinda messy.
You gonna watch it?


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Gorab wrote: "Emergency and Nasbandi were like a major major deal during Indira's reign. Zilch mention in India after Gandhi! And just a one liner that there were allegations of rigging elections against the PM!"

Arre...??
I think IAGandhi didn't portrayed the horrors of Emergency, but it did justice to the issue.
But I can't say anything yet. I need to read enough Emergency literature to form any opinion.

Also on that note, Indu Sarkar might win few National Awards. Probability of winning is directly proportional to the amount to Congress/Indira bashing :P


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SKP- On part 3, chap 17!
I guess the worst thing that happened to Gandhi was his marriage, or better, the worst thing happened to Kasturbai was her marriage with Gandhi :P

I can now understand Gujarat Ke Lalla PM Modi's prespective xD


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I have lowered my reading challenge to 35 books only (30 already done).
I might take a break of few days months from GR after I'm done with AFB (which I will start once I'm done with Dragon Tattoo).
I shall make the situation more clear before leaving :)


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Arpit wrote: "Gorab wrote: "Did you see the trailer of upcoming film "Indu Sarkaar"?"

Just watched it.
I found it kinda messy.
You gonna watch it?"


For sure. Excited about it. I love Madhur Bhandarkar's films.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
SKP - End of Part 2.
Couldn't believe we will dash through so easily!


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Arpit wrote: "But I can't say anything yet. I need to read enough Emergency literature to form any opinion. "

A quick start is there in your plans already. AFB ;)


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Arpit wrote: "SKP- On part 3, chap 17!
I guess the worst thing that happened to Gandhi was his marriage, or better, the worst thing happened to Kasturbai was her marriage with Gandhi :P

I can now understand Guj..."


LOL! True that. Also Vajpayee Ji :)


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Arpit wrote: "I have lowered my reading challenge to 35 books only (30 already done).
I might take a break of few days months from GR after I'm done with AFB (which I will start once I'm done with Dragon Tattoo)..."


Where's the panic button? Buddy going off?
:O
:'(


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Ok i get it. You will read AFB for 6 months so no worries :) [झूठी सांत्वना :(]


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Gorab wrote: "SKP - End of Part 2.
Couldn't believe we will dash through so easily!"


Finished Part-3. Part 3 is quite long, but I guess it would be the most interesting one. I mean South Africa part was good and all, but that wasn't the Gandhi we know.


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Also, I don't remember at all what was the breakthrough act of "Barrister Gandhi" that made him "Mahatma Gandhi". Would be interesting to read.


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Gandhi would be sad to know that sanitary and hygienic condition of third class (and railway stations) are still the same, if not worse :(


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Gorab wrote: "Arpit wrote: "But I can't say anything yet. I need to read enough Emergency literature to form any opinion. "

A quick start is there in your plans already. AFB ;)"


Yeah, sure. Next year I'll jump into postcolonial literature, starting with AFB :)


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Gorab wrote: "Buddy going off? ..."

I'm sorry. But worry not, brother, I'll come back real soon.
Around February or March (unbreakable vow, buddy! Any lurker would like to be the Bonder?).

Just don't give my "GR buddy" position to anybody else _/\_

(view spoiler)


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