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Book & Author Page Issues > Please delete this book! (pt. 12)

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message 451: by vicki_girl (new)

vicki_girl | 2764 comments Got 463.


message 452: by Ninja Neko (new)

Ninja Neko | 171 comments This one looks weird: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13... an untitled book the author has yet to read himself. Maybe added as a mistake? What's the GR policy on this?


message 453: by Peter (new)

Peter (pete_c) | 388 comments Ninja Neko wrote: "This one looks weird: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13... an untitled book the author has yet to read himself. Maybe added as a mistake? What's the GR policy on this?"

You might want to take a look at his blog, here: http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_....
I think this may be his forthcoming work.


message 455: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Got 466.

Re 464/465, I suspect Peter is right. Regardless, we allow forthcoming books, and I see no reason the author having shelved it as to-read (which is odd, I agree) should change that.


message 456: by Tom (new)

Tom | 73 comments Possible deletion candidate?

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39...


message 457: by vicki_girl (new)

vicki_girl | 2764 comments Deleted 468.


message 459: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 89 comments I'm getting an error message for this when I tried to add the bookcover:
page unavailable

An unexpected error occurred. We will investigate this problem as soon as possible — please check back soon!
So, I'm not sure if this is the right link:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

It is this book, without the cover, that needs to be deleted.

Feeling the Heat by Brenda Jackson

But keep the others.

Thanks!


message 461: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "I'm getting an error message for this when I tried to add the bookcover:
page unavailable

An unexpected error occurred. We will investigate this problem as soon as possible — please check back ..."


Do you know the ISBN or title since those links do not work


message 462: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments Got 470 and 472


message 464: by vicki_girl (new)

vicki_girl | 2764 comments Got 475


message 465: by Peter (new)

Peter (pete_c) | 388 comments Paula wrote: "Lisa Kay wrote: "I'm getting an error message for this when I tried to add the bookcover:
page unavailable

An unexpected error occurred. We will investigate this problem as soon as possible — p..."


The link says the title is feeling-the-heat


message 466: by Ninja Neko (new)

Ninja Neko | 171 comments Can a super delete these two:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/98...

I've combined them with the proper versions.


message 467: by Cait (new)

Cait (tigercait) | 4988 comments Got 478: I separated them again and combined with editions matching the title and language before merging.


message 468: by Luis Daniel (new)

Luis Daniel | 5 comments Carol wrote: "Please can you delete these two books from my author profile. Thank you.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show..."


I deleted the first one, but for the second, you need a super librarian.


message 469: by Peter (new)

Peter (pete_c) | 388 comments Carol wrote: "Please can you delete these two books from my author profile. Thank you.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show..."


Are these books not yours, and you want them assigned to the correct author, or are you asking for them to be deleted for some reason?

Note: We usually do not delete existing books, especially if they have been published.


message 470: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 89 comments Paula wrote: "Do you know the ISBN or title since those links do not work..."

Yes. 0373731620


message 471: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 2442 comments Got 471/484


message 472: by karlakolumna (last edited May 12, 2012 09:38PM) (new)

karlakolumna (karlako) On request by the author the following books need to be deleted as soon as possible. They're fanfictions which is the reason for the author's request:

At least two of them need a super, I think.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

Thanks a lot. :)


message 473: by Peter (new)

Peter (pete_c) | 388 comments karlakolumna wrote: "On request by the author the following books need to be deleted as soon as possible. They're fanfictions which is the reason for the author's request:

At least two of them need a super, I think.

..."


I hope one of the supers will follow up my comment, but, so you get a quick response, here goes.

Generally, any book that has been published is not deleted from the database, especially if it has been shelved by users as these have.

Think of it like a library. Books are not usually pulled from the shelves at the authors request.

There is fanfiction in the database already.

Maybe one of the supers can put this better.


message 474: by vicki_girl (new)

vicki_girl | 2764 comments Carol wrote: "Hi Peter,

Both books are mine but I would like to focus my Goodreads author profile on my fiction works only.

I have now separated them. Thank you."


We do not delete books from the database once they have been published. Users want to rate and review any and all books they have read.


message 475: by vicki_girl (new)

vicki_girl | 2764 comments Peter wrote: "I hope one of the supers will follow up my comment..."

According to the manual, "fanfiction which is self-published in book format" is allowed. Now, this raises multiple questions as to what constitutes "self-published" and "book format", but that is a discussion for another thread. Since I am not familiar with these works, I am going to leave them alone for now.


message 476: by karlakolumna (last edited May 13, 2012 04:42AM) (new)

karlakolumna (karlako) Peter wrote: "Generally, any book that has been published is not deleted from the database, especially if it has been shelved by users as these have.

Think of it like a library. Books are not usually pulled from the shelves at the authors request.

There is fanfiction in the database already."


Yeah, I know that and personally I think it would be sad to see these gone since I was the one who added them in the first place. But the author specifically contacted me and wants them to be taken down asap, though.
He is "not comfortable with them being on here at all. They are works of fanfiction, and as a result, he has zero interest in being in any sort of legal trouble because of copyright infringement. It has no place on GoodReads, which is an excellent website for people to recommend and promote published works."

Maybe it was my fault to add them to the database without getting the permission from the author to do so first (which I really didn't know was necessary to do in adavance)...
It is fanfiction, and I know that there's enough fanfic listed here, but one might argue that goodreads is not the place for said work. I don't know.

Unfortunately, that doesn't change that the author, very strongly, insists on them being deleted...

Can't you really delete this series to avoid further argumentation and discomfort on the author's part?

Again, thank you all for the fast replies and help. :)


message 477: by Fran (new)

Fran (narflet) | 129 comments This book: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...

is a duplicate of this book, which I've made sure is correct: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/87...

Please delete the first, thanks!


message 478: by karlakolumna (last edited May 13, 2012 11:09AM) (new)

karlakolumna (karlako) Hey everyone, me again.

I was asked to forward the following message by Footloose, the author of the aforementioned books that he wants to be removed:

Hi Karla,

I have contacted them via their contacts form and explained the situation. I have also advised them that according to their own guidelines, they HAVE to take it down, in that:

1) The LM series is not published and will never be published
2) It is not completed
3) It is a crowdsourcing editing project

http://www.goodreads.com/help/show/22...

According to this, they have to remove that.

I am not a member of the group so cannot post, but would appreciate if you emphasized this point.

Thanks.

[Btw, this is me emphasising the point--as requested. ;)]

The last book has already been deleted, since it didn't need a super for that to happen.
So, we're talking about the 3 remaining books:
- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...
- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...
- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

Again: I'm very sorry for all the trouble. And I am just the messenger. :) Thanks.


message 479: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments This is really a GR and rivka decision and the supers will probably wait for rivka to rule :)- that said

1) offering up ff on a website is considered published by GR
2) If it is not completed then it should not be added GR
3) Should not matter


message 480: by karlakolumna (last edited May 13, 2012 01:59PM) (new)

karlakolumna (karlako) Paula wrote: "This is really a GR and rivka decision and the supers will probably wait for rivka to rule :)- that said

1) offering up ff on a website is considered published by GR
2) If it is not completed then..."


What or who is "rivka"? Sorry, I'm not all that familiar with the behind-the-scenes-processes (and the like) at GR. :)

Regarding 2): Really? I didn't know that, after all there's plenty of fanfiction or free-online-reads that are works in progress here on goodreads. I guess that's all "wrongly added" then?
I'll keep it in mind. Although, after all this toing and froing I'm positively sure that I'll never again add any book to the goodreads database. It is really not worth all the trouble...


message 481: by Peter (last edited May 13, 2012 01:26PM) (new)

Peter (pete_c) | 388 comments karlakolumna wrote: "What or who is "rivka"? "

I like to think of rivka as our Head Librarian. She is usually the final arbiter for difficult decisions.

karlakolumna wrote: "after all this toing and froing I'm positively sure that I'll never again add any book to the goodreads database. It's is really not worth all the trouble..."

I hope you reconsider. It's not all that often that we run into any trouble like you seem to have done. You seem to have gotten in the middle, between the author and GR. When I'm put in that kind of position, I usually request, politely as possible, that the person with the problem directly address to place they have a problem with. (In other words, I would have suggested to the author that they contact GR directly about the problem.)

Maybe, with a little luck, Footloose will join the author program, or at least claim his profile so he can handle these things himself.


message 482: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited May 13, 2012 09:37PM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
I'm certainly not the final arbiter. In many cases there are discussions with other GR staff before I post here.

While in general we don't delete books that have been published, fanfiction is enough of a a legal grey area that IF AND ONLY IF the author requests its removal, we generally do so. (There can be legal reasons why an author must so request.)

I got those.


message 483: by John (new)

John Davies (jaden3) | 7 comments Could you please delete the following book. I think I accidently created this on my phone while adding books. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...
The book is actually "Hit List" by Chris Ryan, and there is already an entry for the book.


message 484: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments The ISBN is legitimate - I have updated the details


message 485: by vicki_girl (new)

vicki_girl | 2764 comments Fran wrote: "This book: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...

is a duplicate of this book, which I've made sure is correct: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/87......"


One of those used to be an alternate cover edition. I have added the alternate cover back.

NOTE: I could not tell which edition had which cover previously (the edit log did not seem to go back far enough), so I changed the cover on the one with fewer reviews.


message 486: by Natasa (new)

Natasa (natasalikes) | 146 comments This one
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

Seems to be a duplicate of this book which is the correct one:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...


message 487: by vicki_girl (new)

vicki_girl | 2764 comments Got 498.


message 488: by Natasa (new)

Natasa (natasalikes) | 146 comments Thanks!


message 489: by Fran (new)

Fran (narflet) | 129 comments vicki_girl wrote: "Fran wrote: "This book: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...

is a duplicate of this book, which I've made sure is correct: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/87......"


There is no alternate cover; it does not exist in the world. The cover you've replaced was the initially solicited placeholder artwork, but it's never been published. The final artwork (as seen on the other listing for the book) wasn't finished at the time of solicitation.

The isbn that was listed in the old blurb as being for an 'alternate cover' is the same isbn as the published edition.

Sorry if my reasons for deletion weren't clear before, I hope they are now.


message 491: by Cait (new)

Cait (tigercait) | 4988 comments Got 502.


message 493: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments Got 504


message 495: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Got 506.


message 496: by Koenraad (new)

Koenraad (koenraadkelemen) | 6989 comments Please merge his book:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27...

into this one:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/96...
(has the most complete data)


message 497: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
zap!


message 498: by Koenraad (new)

Koenraad (koenraadkelemen) | 6989 comments Please merge his book:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/12...

into this one:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/12...
(has the most complete data)


message 499: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Got 510.

Please link to the book/show, not book/edit page, please.


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