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message 1: by Ross (last edited Jan 07, 2012 09:47PM) (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) With the permission and support of my fellow mods, and certain much valued members of the group (you know who you are:p)this will be the thread where we can air our opinions on what should and should not be considered 'attractive', as well as the negative attitudes towards people who chose to be larger than average as either a lifestyle choice, or as a side-effect of something they have no control over.

How should they be treated? Are these 'fatties' a strain on society and a danger to themselves? Does obese mean unhealthy? Are 'normal' people paying the price for their lack of self-control or inclination to indulge? And why the judgemental looks? Is it better to have no curves than voluptuous ones?

And what if you feel fat, even though you aren't? Yes, success demands sacrifice, but does it mean you have to undergo excruciating self-deprivation to fit in? What kind of a mind do anorexics and bulimic live in?


message 2: by E.J., The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 606 comments Mod
Everyone is beautiful...


message 3: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Indeed EJ:D

Theme song for this thread;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfyFT...

Which reminds me, we ought to have a theme song or theme album for this group whadya say?


message 4: by sucre'd fiend (new)

sucre'd fiend (sucredfiend) | 16 comments Everyone is different. We are all beautiful in our own ways. God made no mistakes.


message 5: by Ross (last edited Jan 08, 2012 01:10AM) (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) If only more people held such a point of view eh.


message 6: by shady boots (new)

shady boots (shadyboots) People probably starve themselves because they're pressured by other people to do so. It's just not right. :/ I don't understand why they'd want to be skeletal, though. Losing a couple of pounds in okay, but going to a size 0? That's just sick, in my opinion. Unhealthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKUSGO...


message 7: by Ross (last edited Jan 08, 2012 01:18AM) (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDSK91...

Yes, I think part of it has to do with the pressure of perception, but I think it's also psychological, I mean most people usually know when to stop or how to feel content with their body how it is, losing a ibt of weight is common and natural, but there are two extremes, anorexic and morbidly obese.

Some of you might be familiar with the term FA,for those who don't, it stands for Fat Admirer. There's a sizeable (no pun intended!) FA community on the web and in countries in America and Europe. In Asia, fat people have been traditionally associated with prosperity, since in those days the people who could afford to be fat, were those who had the money to purchase more food items.

Songs such as above, from British- Lebanese singer Mika, advocates size acceptance, what do you all think?


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

I have fat friends. I really don't care, I think it's their loss that they let themselves become unhealthy. But hey. people can change.


message 9: by [deleted user] (new)

I know this is weird.. But I've been teased for being TOO thin.


message 10: by [deleted user] (new)

I look liek a stick, with some little curves. Tiny ones.


message 11: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Well for what it's worth I'm sure you're an attractive stick Blaze lol


message 13: by E.J., The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 606 comments Mod
I'm teased for too thin, lol. I don't see how this could work though. I mean, I eat... CONSTANTLY!


message 14: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) You're just one of those people blessed with an awesome metabolism probably:p


message 15: by E.J., The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 606 comments Mod
Just wait a few years, I'll be fat... my metabolism will slow soon.


Kiyuto~Nyan ❤☪☮E✡☥☯✞❤ [Kony 2012] (IHaveDiedEveryDayWaitingForYou) | 564 comments Like my sister. She can eat like 20 tacos(I'm not joking, she counted one time) and she's still super skinny. One time, I gave her a hug and her shoulder bone pretty much stabbed my throat. It hurt.


message 17: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Heh well not unless you moderate your intake and exercise you'll be fine:) But it might mean changing your habits, and I know habits and personal routines are never easy to change.


message 18: by [deleted user] (new)

It's okay EJ I can eat whatever I want and not gain a pound to save my life... Over Christmas break I ate half a dozen of Krispie Kreme doughnuts before we got home...we only live 10 minutes away.


message 19: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) I'm assuming you're not similarly blessed metabolically Caitlyn?


message 20: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Ahh so you're one of those poor people who for some reason doesn't feel full even after eating loads, heh like me. Instead of three meals a day you could try smaller meals, but make them stuff like fruit or liquid based, that shouldn't be too bad.


message 21: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Well he's right to a certain extent:D


message 22: by girlpower12121 (new)

girlpower12121 (caanna) Caitlyn wrote: "People say that everyone is beautiful, and i agree, that everyone in there own way is beautiful. However it is a very touchy subject because someone like me, who isn't happy with how they look, see..."

I am in the same boat.


message 23: by Dia (new)

Dia (funsize5) | 12 comments I'm not super skinny. And I'm not fat. People shouldn't call themselves fat anyway. They should refer to themselves as Size Sexy or something like that. Self-esteem booster.


message 24: by girlpower12121 (new)

girlpower12121 (caanna) LOL sizy sexy? I love it :D


message 25: by Dia (new)

Dia (funsize5) | 12 comments Haha yeah. I think I heard that on TV or something. It should just help people think better about themselves.


message 26: by girlpower12121 (new)

girlpower12121 (caanna) Nice :) I think I will say that from now on teehee


message 27: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) And also the truth some larger people can be considered rather attractive:)


message 28: by Dia (new)

Dia (funsize5) | 12 comments You're right. Sometimes it looks better to be bigger than a twig.


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

It does, i admit, I would love to lose a few kilos, and give them to one of my friends, ok I know that sounds offensive, but have a listen, she's about 5 foot 7, and you know how you wrap your hand around someones wrist and touch your middle finger and thumb together? well I can do that to just below her shoulder, HER FREAKING SHOULDER, usually it doesn't work after about an inch or 2 up the arm from the wrist, but she is super skinny, and eats a tonne, and eats all the time.... and is still super skinny...


message 30: by [deleted user] (new)

Woolfie wrote: "Well for what it's worth I'm sure you're an attractive stick Blaze lol"

hahahaha... *sighs*

i know this sounds selfish, but I'd give $10 if I could just have people stop calling me a "super model". (I know, I'm cheap.) First of all, supermodels are creepy. THey lok to thin and never smile. Second of all, MOST supermodels are AIRHEADS.
3rd of all... Im doen ranting.


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Lexaaa...Ninja Assassin {Sexay and Dangerous} wrote: "It does, i admit, I would love to lose a few kilos, and give them to one of my friends, ok I know that sounds offensive, but have a listen, she's about 5 foot 7, and you know how you wrap your hand..."

wow....


message 32: by [deleted user] (new)

yeah


message 33: by Gi (new)

Gi  (clarawho) I think... No, I am certain that everyone is beautiful in their own way. Your opinion is the only one that matters and screw the others. We all are different in our own way and that is what makes us us. This societ is ending our thoughts and making a new meaning of attractive, but we are who we are. We cant change that. And I am proud to say: I am ME!! And this is the meaning of attractive: Being Yourself.


message 34: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Lexaaa, that doesn't sound offensive in the least, perhaps your friend is just like that, the key is that she's healthy, not thin, fast or whatever, healthy is what we ought to go for:D

You're right Heidi, of course, but we all know society doesn't look at it that way; it has acceptable, and unacceptable so-called 'standards of conventional beauty', since when did subjective become suppression, and choice mutated into coercion? The tyranny of the like-minded majority is the basis of discrimination, which underpins all the divisions that both make our cultural civilizations so wonderfully diverse, and so prone to explosive disagreement, marginalization and anger born of fear.


message 35: by E.J., The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 606 comments Mod
I personally find quite a few large women sexy and awesome: Oprah Winfrey, Queen Latifah, etc.


message 36: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) That's what I'm talking about EJ! :D


Kiyuto~Nyan ❤☪☮E✡☥☯✞❤ [Kony 2012] (IHaveDiedEveryDayWaitingForYou) | 564 comments Oprah. Is. AWESOME!
I don't know enough about Queen Latifah...

I lost six pounds in about a week. Hehe, me so happy. ^-^


message 38: by E.J., The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 606 comments Mod
"I like Big Butts and I cannot lie..." Lol, this just came to mind.

Although I won't lie, I like tiny people... mainly because I can pick them up and spin them around like my friends, lol.


Kiyuto~Nyan ❤☪☮E✡☥☯✞❤ [Kony 2012] (IHaveDiedEveryDayWaitingForYou) | 564 comments That song has been stuck in my head ALL DAY!
I shall be thin before summer.


message 40: by E.J., The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 606 comments Mod
It's personality that counts the most though. You can be a skinny bitch, but I shall choose the larger kind person any day.


message 41: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Slim Kiyuto, not thin:)


Kiyuto~Nyan ❤☪☮E✡☥☯✞❤ [Kony 2012] (IHaveDiedEveryDayWaitingForYou) | 564 comments EJ Luv Zombie wrote: "It's personality that counts the most though. You can be a skinny bitch, but I shall choose the larger kind person any day."
*nods in agreement*


message 43: by E.J., The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 606 comments Mod
A quote I love, "Point that finger at me one more time and I'll break it off."


message 44: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Fingers do not taste nice, as a rule:p


message 45: by [deleted user] (new)

Mine is 'Bitch please, I've sluts with more class than you.' :) It usually shuts them up.


Kiyuto~Nyan ❤☪☮E✡☥☯✞❤ [Kony 2012] (IHaveDiedEveryDayWaitingForYou) | 564 comments Woolfie wrote: "Fingers do not taste nice, as a rule:p"
"... and I eat hands, that's two things."
There's more to it, but I can't remember it at the moment.
You gotta just love Carl. :)


message 47: by [deleted user] (new)

EJ Luv Zombie wrote: ""I like Big Butts and I cannot lie..." Lol, this just came to mind.

Although I won't lie, I like tiny people... mainly because I can pick them up and spin them around like my friends, lol."


OMG! Once about two years ago, I was dared to say that to a bunch of 3rd and second graders. They stared at me liek I was nuts!!! :D


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

Wow.... *wide eyes*


message 49: by Ross (new)

Ross Bauer (nightlightknight) Lol Streak you commenting on your own comment or what?:p


message 50: by [deleted user] (new)

No.. Just gonna ask something for you guys. Erk, i really don't swear alot. But then again, Im a teen. Im not supposed to. But anyway.. Could you keep the language down a little?? Thanks. :D


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