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Does anyone else besides me hate Harry Potter?

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Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) Yeah, I know. Most kids that I meet that hate reading either love reading fantasy, or, they love read Diary if a Wimpy Kid.


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Arti wow


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Ana i thin kyou mean of.... :D it's funny how everyone's like "it teaches you to stick up for yourself!" and all of the people whom i know that like this book (unlike myself) have draco as their favorite.... if i remember correctly, didn't he join voldemort and was awkwardly hugged in the end?


Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) Well, in the movie yes he was hugged AWKWARDLY and went on Voldemort's side. But, you must realize, if he didn't go on Voldemort's side Voldemort would kill his parents, and, he wasn't exactly happy or loyal was he?


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A.R. McKenna I've always strongly believed that if you hate something and moan about it, then you must secretly like it.

I don't make discussions about things I hate. Personally, I dislike Twilight. Do I go around bashing the series or saying I dislike it? No.


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James I enjoyed the first few books around the age of 13. Didn't follow it much after that. Since I stopped reading I have seen a ridiculous amount of immaturity coming from Harry Potter haters. People have found a series of book they enjoy and have provided countless hours of entertainment for each other with fan fiction, music, conventions, parties, web sites, etc. To call them idiots is most likely an act of jealousy. Seeing how far the series went and how much love there is out there in the Potter community, I wish I had followed the books more closely.

tl;dr haters gonna hate, rock on potter lovers


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A.R. McKenna James wrote: "I enjoyed the first few books around the age of 13. Didn't follow it much after that. Since I stopped reading I have seen a ridiculous amount of immaturity coming from Harry Potter haters. Peopl..."

Well said.


Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) I am back! And I am still lovin' HP. :) Yeah. Well said.


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A.R. McKenna Kaleigh wrote: "I am back! And I am still lovin' HP. :) Yeah. Well said."

Haters have nothing better to do. If they hate Harry Potter so much then they should write a better, more original and successful series. Because it's so easy, right? Mhm. :)


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Jen Siyana wrote: "i thin kyou mean of.... :D it's funny how everyone's like "it teaches you to stick up for yourself!" and all of the people whom i know that like this book (unlike myself) have draco as their favori..."

Well, Draco is obviously a character who cannot stick up for himself, but he is put in an extremely difficult situation. He stands up to Voldemort, his parents die. Nothing is ever black and white.
And Malfoy is for a very long time a stereotypical bully, but Rowling shows who Malfoy really is in the later books: a terrified teenager who's all bark and no bite.
But yes, it does teach you to fight for your beliefs. Harry, Hermione, and Ron being the most obvious examples. Taking a stand against Voldemort and defending other wizards.


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A.R. McKenna Jen wrote: "Siyana wrote: "i thin kyou mean of.... :D it's funny how everyone's like "it teaches you to stick up for yourself!" and all of the people whom i know that like this book (unlike myself) have draco ..."

Completely agree. :) One of the reasons why I love the series.

Plus having Hermione as a smart heroine is inspiring to thousands girls and even women. I know she inspired me when the series came out.


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Jen Vanessa wrote: "Jen wrote: "Siyana wrote: "i thin kyou mean of.... :D it's funny how everyone's like "it teaches you to stick up for yourself!" and all of the people whom i know that like this book (unlike myself)..."

^ Hermione is very inspirational and a great role model for women. She's brilliant, loyal, devoted, and (at least in the book) she's awkward looking, not beautiful. Which makes girls realize they have more to them than just being attractive. Also, Hermione is an extremely emotional character. She tends to cry a lot under pressure. That shows girls that it's okay to be emotional, okay to cry, but it also shows them to be strong and fight until the very end.


Emilywhaaat Harry Potter cannot please everyone, so just please, don't hate on the story. Actually, don't hate on anything where you know you're just up for a banter.

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AC I Don't know anyone who wouldn't like Harry potter. But then again, one of you might say that I really, really, really like Harry Potter. My opinion is simply that J.K. Rowling is truly an inspiring author.


The Romance Bookie Bluedaizy wrote: "Wow. That's a mature comment...NOT. I bet you're 10, right??

That goes for the creator of this discussion topic. If you don't care for a book, great! But elaborate on why you don't like the ..."


I really agree with you! Putting down people who like something is completely immature and rude! Learn some manners!


Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) Vanessa wrote: Completely agree. :) One of the reasons why I love the series.

Plus having Hermione as a smart heroine is inspiring to thousands girls and even women. I know she inspired me when the series came out.
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Me too. My family keeps on joking, that, I am a little Hermione, because, I love to read, I love school, and I love learning new things. =]


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Arti Aidan wrote: "I Don't know anyone who wouldn't like Harry potter. But then again, one of you might say that I really, really, really like Harry Potter. My opinion is simply that J.K. Rowling is truly an inspirin..."

exactly


Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) {random question time!} Who likes Star Wars?


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A.R. McKenna Jen wrote: "Vanessa wrote: "Jen wrote: "Siyana wrote: "i thin kyou mean of.... :D it's funny how everyone's like "it teaches you to stick up for yourself!" and all of the people whom i know that like this book..."

I know! I love J.K. Rowling for that. I used to hate my emotions and backed away from them because we are taught to suppress them and are criticized if we show emotion. Emotion is seen as a sign on weakness, but not in Rowling's world. It's extremely positive and inspiring. :)


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A.R. McKenna Kaleigh wrote: "Vanessa wrote: Completely agree. :) One of the reasons why I love the series.

Plus having Hermione as a smart heroine is inspiring to thousands girls and even women. I know she inspired me when th..."


Aw that's so cute. She shows us that girls don't need to depend on looks, as it has been said before.


Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) :) I even wear glasses.


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A.R. McKenna Me too. *high five*


Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) *high five* Sweet. How long have you had them? This is my 5th pair of glasses.


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A.R. McKenna Hm I've had glasses since first grade, so it's been like a little over ten years. I've gone through so many. How about you?


Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) Told you. This is my 5th pair. It has lasted, so far, almost a year.


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Jen Vanessa wrote: "Jen wrote: "Vanessa wrote: "Jen wrote: "Siyana wrote: "i thin kyou mean of.... :D it's funny how everyone's like "it teaches you to stick up for yourself!" and all of the people whom i know that li..."

Exactly, and women are looked down on for being "too emotional", which makes them "weak". But Hermione shows us that it's okay to cry. In fact, the emotional Hermione at least looks to her friends for help, and does her best to work with them to get out of sticky situation. Harry, on the other hand, tends to let his emotions get the better of him. As seen in OotP when he distances himself from everyone because he is so stressed and scared.


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Arti Vanessa wrote: "Hm I've had glasses since first grade, so it's been like a little over ten years. I've gone through so many. How about you?"

i had them since first grade too!


Kaleigh - Captain Bubbles ESTP(intj) I have had them since first grade also!


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Arti kwel


message 684: by Ally (last edited Jul 18, 2011 08:45PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ally You're probably right. only idiots would read harry potter. Idiot kids. and their idiot parents. and idiots of all ages from 80 different countries. And idiot teachers. and the idiot actors in the idiot movies, who like the books so much that unlike most actors in book-turned-movies, they had actually read the series BEFORE it made them famous. Lets not forget the idiot professors who teach it to their university students as an example of outstanding children's literature...

Calling readers of a best selling series 'all idiots' is a bit of a stretch. The Twilight Saga (oh do i have a giggle everytime i get to call that a saga) is the stupidest thing to ever kill trees, but I am crossing my fingers that at least some of those poor people have brains in their heads, otherwise, this mass popularity-driven world may just be as doomed as our elder generation assumes. Goddess help us all. If you're going to insult an author's talent, or a book, do that. But name-calling is probably beneath you.


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Jen Ally wrote: "You're probably right. only idiots would read harry potter. Idiot kids. and their idiot parents. and idiots of all ages from 80 different countries. And idiot teachers. and the idiot actors in the ..."

At first I thought you were calling everyone an idiot and was about to retort, but then I realized you were making a point lol


Nurlely Ally wrote: "You're probably right. only idiots would read harry potter. Idiot kids. and their idiot parents. and idiots of all ages from 80 different countries. And idiot teachers. and the idiot actors in the ..."

I love the sarcasm. But I think that particular person does not understand that. If her understanding of having a discussion is by saying 'the series is stupid' then she is far beyond that.


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Eoin Kayla wrote: "The stupid book has no point at all! Only complete idiots would read Harry Potter!"
Hey! I read it and I am not a complete idiot. The books are AMAZING! So there. If you are going to call them stupid at least read them.


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Audrey great comebacks there, eoin. (;

i must say, the fans annoy the absolute crap out of me, as does the excessive and overpriced merch, but the books and movies will always have a special place in my heart, and are among the best in their genre - heck, the best in all genres.


Kathryn Mueller *My apologies for how long this is. But I think that the massive popularity of these books insists on a better thought-out answer than "They're all stupid!"*

Wow, lots of very heated discussion here. I want to say one thing right up front: Whether or not people read one particular series does not determine whether or not their an idiot--they would for sure be an idiot if they did not even know how to read!

With that said, I'll admit that I was sort of naturally antagonistic toward the series when I first started reading it, but felt that I couldn't give a negative "review" without actually reading the books...so I read the first one, and pretty genuinely hated it. Harry is such a brat (and pretty much everyone else in the book too), and the only kind of conflict/tension that propelled the plot forward was that of injustice. And since Harry's (and his friends') responses to their predicaments were neither admirable nor inspiring to me...I didn't read any more. (That was 5 or 6 years ago.)

But then I start writing reviews of kids books online and I had people asking me what I thought of the Harry Potter series... so I decided to give it a try once again. I am now in the middle of the fifth book. And my short summary is that I pretty much detested the first two books, the Prisoner of Azkaban I really liked, and the Goblet of Fire was very fun--I would probably actually read it again someday. But I just HATE the Order of Phoenix (so far--I'm a bit more than half through.) Harry seems to have lost all the maturity that he gained in the first four years and returned to his bratty beginnings. He mouths off and is belligerent to everyone, even his friends. From someone who has actually fought Lord Voldemort on multiple occasions and should know how hard it will be to prepare for the coming battle, I would expect a lot more understanding and cooperation for the cause than he gives. And so far, there's nothing very new or inventive that is introduced!

Anyway, that's a super short summary. I like that the stories are creative and interesting--and yet, I feel like Rowling does a terrible job of describing the magical process. (Do they just say the words? It can't possibly be that easy because so many of them have trouble doing the spells!) And I also think she has some inconsistencies in her characters (Harry for one) and for another example, Snape is so outrageously deaf and murderous at the end of the 3rd book (Azkaban)... Well, the impression that I get is 1) either Dumbledore is taken in by Snape and doesn't know he's SO unreasonable. 2) Snape really isn't that bad (yes his is.) 3) Snape will eventually turn out to be bad, in which case Dumbledore will have been deceived about him for what, 14 years? Not very likely is it? And if Snape is purposely deceiving Dumbledore, you'd think he try harder to hide his vindictive nature.

Anyway. I think these books, because of their inventiveness and the fast-paced writing, are among the most popular among the YA fantasy genre... but they are not life changing. Honestly, they're just pulp fiction, designed to please the masses (which it does a VERY good job at, and which I have no problem with.) But it also means that they, under no circumstances, should be called the greatest books of all time. And if you truly truly believe that they are, please go read some other books: like

Our Mutual Friend by Charles Dickens, Henry V (Shakespeare) and Les Misérables (Victor Hugo) or something more lighthearted--like The Virginian(wonderful and inspiring western by Owen Wister.

Want some more inspiring books in the fantasy realm? Try some of my personal favorites: A Wrinkle in Time and its companion books
or
The Hero and the Crown and The Blue Sword


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Jud I hate the movies but love the books. Although it bothers me that the title of the first book was changed for sale in America, silly but meh nothing I can do about, it just don't understand why the JK's original title is perfectly good. Moan over :-D


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Arti LOVE MOVIES AND BOOKS


Nurlely I love both books and movies...:)


Anna  ♥☻☺♫♪ I personally don't like it all that much


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Anna  ♥☻☺♫♪ its just not all that great or amusing to me


Nurlely Anna♥☻☺♫ wrote: "its just not all that great or amusing to me"

Just curious. Why then you rate it 5 stars?


Nurlely I think Twilight series is not well written. The romance is awesome but similar to romance novels. The fantasy side is a mess. There are so many flaws in details. Stephenie even did a mistake by altering her own comments.

I haven't read Percy Jackson so I have no say.


Anna  ♥☻☺♫♪ Nurlely wrote: "Anna♥☻☺♫ wrote: "its just not all that great or amusing to me"

Just curious. Why then you rate it 5 stars?"


I rate a lot of things 5 stars... usually i get on late at night to do my updates and well yeah i just am so tired that i just click 5 stars...


Anna  ♥☻☺♫♪ I don't like twilight, harry potter but i do like percy jackson


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