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14. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
I think it was a blow to her fragile confidence. It's not all that firm to begin with and she has so much riding on getting these winnings. Hmm, her fear. I don't know, facing her biological family? And her fear that she isn't worth loving? That's come up a fair bit.
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
Even if the police never did anything, every letter with allusions to abuse, especially physical and sexual, should of always been immediately reported. I'm surprised nothing happened sooner.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
No it was more confirmation with specific details on what his childhood was like. What did Hugo say, something along the lines of it's easier to be creative when you are miserable. Misery creates a reason to need an escape.
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
Oh certainly and also various other types of creative arts like Sammy mentioned. A particular books doesn't come to mind but reading in general has always been a happy place for me.
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DQs Day 4 Chapter 18 - 2314. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
Let’s face it, Lucy’s going to win. 😉 Or she won’t win but something glorious will happen for/to her. I read ahead a chapter so I already know what her fear to face is.
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
Jack being who he is, I don’t think there was any different option for him. Certainly encouraging the children to visit him, however obliquely, wasn’t a great idea as children don’t have the knowledge to understand literal vs figurative (although Jack may not have been thinking figuratively at all). I can get very caught up in my own words when I’m trying to help people, sometimes saying things that sound helpful but may not be in the long run, not unlike Jack. I could see myself reacting the same way.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
Not at all.
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
I definitely believe in the transformative power of art! For me, music more than books has been my support in extremely difficult times. The Awakening in particular is one of those songs.
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Do you agree with that quote? Are there any books that changed you personally?
I agree that books do affect us. I have read books that have spoken to me and have helped me comprehend moments from my life.
11. We finally get the first riddle. Did you guess it before Lucy did?
As soon as he riddle was written down (view spoiler) I picked it right away. Riddles seem easier when you look at them on paper.
12. What did you think of The City of Secondhand and of Markham showing up like that? Is he just a sleezy lawyer, or is there something more sinister going on?
The City of Secondhand seemed so sad & lonely, I hope something gets done with it by the end. Markham is just a creep.
13. Do you have to keep reminding yourself that the "contestants" are adults, not children?
That wasn't something I considered. I saw them as adults that were remembering their childhood.
Day 11. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
Really enjoyed these characters when they were introduced, my heart was breaking for both Lucy and Christopher. Hugo I was still getting a feel for him, seemed a bit unhappy in his life right now.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
I hadn't quiet grasped onto what this is as I was reading through this section, maybe I wasn't focused on the whimsy or riddles yet and what they could mean. I think my brain was still so thinking of poor Christopher in the beginning.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
I don't agree with this, it sounds like he's general disenchanted with the world right now...being on an island as long as he has been could probably do that. I'm hoping his perspective will shift in the story.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
I think it has to be balanced, I mean what is a world without hope...it would be pretty sad. Yet, there needs to be acknowledgement of current circumstance.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
My brain went to his health or loneliness first thing. I think he realizes how special this world he's created is and this adds to whimsy.
DQ's Day 4 Ch. 18-2314. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
It was always going to go this way, it wouldn't be easy to win. Lucy is resilient in her own way, she has picked herself up several times when life throws a curve ball and she will again this time. I've finished so I know her fear, but I had guessed it anyway. It was interesting getting the alternate POV .
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
Jack certainly is a naive character. He makes these grand gestures which are admirable and is a caring man but sometimes these need thinking through. This was such an example and such a sad scenario.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
See answer above. He means well but he does live in his head a lot. And sometimes thinks in the real world just don't turn out like our thoughts/dreams.
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
People read for all sorts of reasons. For me it is knowledge, and escapism. It's a great outlet when life isn't kind.
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DQs Day 2 Chapter 6 - 116. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy?
I liked his letter and I don't think I'd have done what Lucy did. But I completely understand why she would, feeling neglected and then having someone reach out that understood her would be powerful thing for a child.
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
I find it fascinating, such a wonderland and different place that would appeal to the imagination. I actually wish I could see Hugo's paintings as well.
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
I'm feeling like they are giving us little clues into Clock Island and life, I'm appreciating having them and I think they add to the story.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child?
I'm hoping so, I think they need each other. It sounds like Hugo was pretty young himself when they met that wouldn't be a huge difference in adulthood, also there was no interest when they were younger when it would have been inappropriate.
DQs Day 2 Chapter 6 - 116. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy?
I liked the letter. Was it the most "responsible adult" thing to do? Probably not. Especially his emphatically agreeing with her perception of her parents (which I'm still a bit skeptical of). Even so, the letter, and his reaction to her showing up at his house, showed what a kooky, likable guy he is.
As far as running away, had I been Lucy, I probably would have done the same thing. But in reality, I was not a risk-taker!
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
I think the way they've named the island is charming (as Hugo says at the beginning). I would be happy to visit it. And if I was in this story and loved the Clock Island books, of course I'd want to visit the real island!
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
Hard to say. They're relevant, regardless, since this whole story revolves around Jack's books and the characters' connections to them. But it's possible that they hold more foreshadowing as well.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child?
Yes, I expect a romance to blossom, especially since Hugo's ex mentioned earlier in the book how he needed to find someone who loves the island as much as him. They both love Jack and the island in their own ways, so they could be good together.
DQ's Day 4 Ch. 18-2314. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
I will skip this one as I've finished the book.
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
I do think that Jack meant well by trying to offer supportive letters to the kids. But, after the first few children found their way to the island with hopes of living with him, he should have changed what he sent to them. Plus, he should have alerted the authorities of all the children that were in any type of abusive situation.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
No, it didn't change my opinion; it just gave more background on him.
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
Books have always been my escape and my happy place. I guess I didn't want to have bad vibes with my books, so I turned to music when things for me were tough or looked bleak. I think the form of art that helps depends on the person. Also agree with what Sammy that it is helpful to many people in different forms as evidenced by the many therapies around books, music and art.
DQ's Day 4 Ch. 18-2314. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
Definitely her sister. Especially with the “someone Jack would like her to meet” bit. She already admitted she’s afraid of finding out her sister/parents didn’t love her because she was unlovable. Just makes sense to me that having to hear from her sister would be one of her fears.
I think she still has a chance to win, but I kind of wonder if she won’t. It’s been hinted at that often kids don’t get their exact wish but that it’s more roundabout. Her biggest wish is really about wanting family ties — it could be that she ends up reuniting with her sister. Maybe her sister does lend her money (or gift her money) so she can have Christopher too. Who knows! I think it’s clear that I’m a dreamer. And that I cannot imagine not having a relationship with my sister (though I know people usually have good reasons — but I still think the sister was probably equally traumatized by the parents in a different way and they need to hash it out)
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
He definitely should have done something different, but that’s usually true when you have the hindsight to know better.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
It doesn’t really, but I always felt very sympathetic toward him anyway because I figured he had some sort of tragic past — just had no idea what it would be!
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
Books definitely have that power. I still remember what I was reading sitting on the hospital floor while we were visiting my grandmother when she was dying of cancer when I was 9.. Unfortunately the series has been tainted for me over the last few years, but I’ll always be grateful for the escapism that provided when I really needed it.
Discussion Questions : Day 1 (Prologue - Chapter 5)1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
Not sure yet what to think of Hugo. He seems unhappy and I have a feeling a lot of backstory. I also wonder if he and Lucy will become a couple due to this relationship woes and love of the island and what he said to his ex. Not sure of his attachment to Jack yet. Jack is a stranger to me other than Lucy's memories of meeting him and his sweet letter. I adore Lucy and Christopher, heartbreaking chapter one!!!
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
I am wondering if it means something with Hugo's loss he mentioned, but not sure yet.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
No, he seems morose, as he said he gets bitter when things goes well but he jokes bitterness helps him paint better. He may be one of those people who looks on the negative side. He loves the island and the sea but now wants to leave. He in this state would not be happy anywhere.
For me, when I'm doing well, it encourages me to keep doing better. If I'm doing poorly or not having luck, I get discouraged easily, so I don't agree with his quote where I'm concerned.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
I love the magic of wishes and the wonder of books and the island, but the social worker had valid points. i work in the system administration with foster care and counseling and what she's saying is sadly true on needing to pass a home study and have a working car if you're a non-relative in the system, especially without a safety net or experience as a foster parent. To tell a child about wishing for it to come true is fun and magical but it also can be cruel to get hopes up if you don't think they will happen and Christopher seems to have had a tragic life already, poor little guy!
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
On this I am not sure yet and don't have theories. I sense something "magical" almost supernatural.
DQs Day 2 Chapter 6 - 116. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy?
I thought it meant the world to her and was very sweet. It's difficult to say what I would have done in her place, but I definitely understood her reasons.
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
I like it, I would visit :)
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
I think they may give some inside into Jack's character, as he is somehow also the "Matermind". Astrid and Lucy are also a match.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child?
Yes, it feels like the start of a romance. I don't judge the age difference - she isn't a child now and people of wildly different ages can absolutely have very deep connections. It's made absolutely clear that he did not have any attraction to her when she was 13, so that's fine with me.
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18. Jack and Lucy have an emotional discussion about dreams — and how giving up on dreams can be a relief as it’s one less thing to worry about. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Can giving up on a dream ever bring relief?
19. We finally got to meet Angie and learn her side of the story! Were you surprised by what she had to say? If you were Lucy, do you think you would be able to forgive her after hearing her side?
20. Lucy mentions that she and Jack are planning to start a nonprofit to send books to foster children, but just as she’s about to say the prospective name, she gets cut off. Why do you think the author chose to leave that out? What name do you think the author had in mind, if any?
21. In the end, even though the contest ended unlike how any of them predicted, everyone still got their wish. Since this book is all about wishing — is there anything you wish was different about the way the book ended, or are you happy with how it all wrapped up?
DQs - Day 5 (Chapters 24 - end)18. Jack and Lucy have an emotional discussion about dreams — and how giving up on dreams can be a relief as it’s one less thing to worry about. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Can giving up on a dream ever bring relief?
Sure, I think depending on the dream, that's true. If it's something that's completely out of reach, then letting go can be a relief. But overall, why not dream, and dream big?
19. We finally got to meet Angie and learn her side of the story! Were you surprised by what she had to say? If you were Lucy, do you think you would be able to forgive her after hearing her side?
It was a good perspective and one I hadn't considered. I'm not sure that I'd be able to forgive, though. When I'm hurt that deeply by someone, it's very hard for me to move past it.
20. Lucy mentions that she and Jack are planning to start a nonprofit to send books to foster children, but just as she’s about to say the prospective name, she gets cut off. Why do you think the author chose to leave that out? What name do you think the author had in mind, if any?
Honestly, that didn't register with me... that the name of the nonprofit wasn't given. No thoughts on it.
21. In the end, even though the contest ended unlike how any of them predicted, everyone still got their wish. Since this book is all about wishing — is there anything you wish was different about the way the book ended, or are you happy with how it all wrapped up?
I wish the whole story wouldn't have read more and more like a YA novel as it went along. I would have liked more challenge and, conflict maybe? Not sure how to describe it. It just was a very pat ending.
Cass - District 6 Discussion Questions : Day 1 (Prologue - Chapter 5)
1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
I really enjoyed all of them so far. I think my favorite is Hugo. I love grumpy characters! I don’t know why I feel such an emotional tug towards them because I am the complete opposite. I think my favorite character relationship is Lucy and Christopher so far. I’m looking forward to seeing how this develops.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
Sidenote: I absolutely love riddles. I don’t know if it’s from reading books like “The Westing Game” as a child or my recent experience reading the Hawthorne series, but I am so excited for another book that uses riddles!
Now, yes, I definitely believe this riddle has to do with what happened 5 years ago. The significance of the riddle being shared and then immediately Hugo’s thoughts about this ‘ambiguous event’ illustrates this connection.
From the riddle, we know two men are involved (one can assume one of those men is Hugo) as well as a woman or two women. I also want to believe that this ‘water’ caused the “wife” and “daughter” to be lost by one or both of the men. The way it’s worded, it makes me feel like these men lacked the ability to be a good husband and good father. It isn’t clear why they weren’t though.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
I agree with this statement to a degree, because I connected this to the whole ‘grass is greener’ or ‘wanting what you don’t have’ that can be rampant in our own mind. It could also just be a connection to how our own dreams and goals change as we mature and learn more about ourselves. If the argument is solely that success kills motivation, I do not agree. I believe as you find success that you just become more motivated.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
I think the wishing game was so sweet. Lucy might not be able to grant all of Christopher's wishes, but she is able to instill hope and encourage his imagination. I do believe this game and mindset are healthy. I whole-heartedly agree with Lucy and not the social worker.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
You give up your passion when you go through something heart-breaking. So maybe he had processed his emotions from the reason he stopped writing? They aren’t calling the book 'the last clock island book' so I don't think he is dying or giving the island away.
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6. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy?
I thought his letter was very sweet and full of the same magic, mischief, and hope that he fills his books with so of course Lucy took it to heart. Lucy was a child who loved the clock island books and she idolized Jack. She also was essentially looking for a reason to runaway and/or finally obtain her parents attention. If I were in Lucy’s shoes, I would have also done exactly what Lucy did.
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
I would love to visit the island. I find the setting fascinating and so full of imagination! I actually like how the different landmarks are based on each section of the island.
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
I do find these parts important for the story. I believe these scenes serve a purpose whether it’s to foreshadow, provide context, or back ground information. I feel like it’s allowed me to get to know all of the characters better too.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child?
I do agree as well, but I don’t know if I’m reading too much into it or I just always root from the grump to find happiness! I would approve of it because it is clear that there was no connection like this from his perspective when she first visited. He seems to grow fonder of her the more he gets to know this adult Lucy.
Cass - District 6 DQs Day 3:
10. We read something that moves us, touches us, speaks to us and it... it changes us?"
Do you agree with that quote? Are there any books that changed you personally?
I definitely agree with this quote! I have read so many books that have changed me personally. I have gained so much perspective that I would not have gained otherwise. If I had to name a few specific texts, I would say “The Truth About Forever” taught me that there is no wrong way to process grief, “Frankenstein” taught me that we should think about the consequences of our choices before we make them and that all are worthy of love and violence and ignorance only breeds more of the same.
11. We finally get the first riddle. Did you guess it before Lucy did?
I did not, but once she started to unravel it then it made sense. I went back and reread the original riddle he shared. So, I did not guess before Lucy. I look forward to the next riddle though for another chance!
12. What did you think of The City of Secondhand and of Markham showing up like that? Is he just a sleezy lawyer, or is there something more sinister going on?
The description of The City of Secondhand sounded like a passion project left unfinished. The amount of action to detail used in some places to then leave it unfinished illuminates Jack’s emotional response to this major event from 5 years ago. I did not like Markham for obvious reasons, but it made sense for Lucy to be tempted. It was an offer that would solve her current financial issues but at the cost of her love of reading and more specifically the clock island books. So it was a test of her morals which I think was chosen specifically for the readers to learn more of her character. Even though what she desires most in the world is to be Christopher’s mom, she is not willing to sacrifice every child’s ability to read this story. She doesn’t want to take away a potential child’s escape for her own selfish gain.
13. do you have to keep reminding yourself that the "contestants" are adults, not children?
I don’t, but now that you ask I do find it interesting that it seems to illustrate how the other three had initially lost their idealism or ‘child like’ approaches to riddles/life by approaching them like adults. Lucy was able to solve the first riddle because she thought like a child. Another thought was how Lucy seems to be able to think like a child but act like an adult whereas the others seem to find difficulty in thinking like a child but none whatsoever in acting like a children(tantrums, etc)
Cass - District 6 DQ's Day 4 Ch. 18-23
14. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
I think this is going to make Lucy question herself. She seems to lack self-confidence or self-esteem at times. I hope she is able to recover though, because I am rooting for her. I do think she still had a chance to win. If I had to predict her fear, I think it is going to have to do with either her parents or sister, because she so openly discussed her anger and frustration with them to Jack.
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
My heart. I feel for Jack receiving those letters. To hear about so much sadness time and time again but feel helpless must have been so difficult for him. I couldn’t imagine all of those memories and feelings acting as a weight on one’s shoulders. For him to finally feel like he could actually help one of them and for this to be the outcome. It is not a wonder why he gave up writing and found a companion in alcohol. I think it’s difficult to say if I would or would not done what Jack did. He had an emotional response to an emotional situation.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
This does not change my opinion of Jack, but it does explain so much. His imagination for one, it’s heartbreaking to think about how his imagination of this beautiful children series stemmed from how he would distract himself from the horrors of his own childhood. His desire to help others, he had no one who protected him and he never wants to make anyone else experience that. I’ve read before how those that experience traumatic childhoods can be some of the most optimistic adults. They’ve experienced so much sadness that they focus on their own happiness and those around them.
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
I do believe books have power! There have been countless books that helped me through tough times in my life. Reading is a form of escapism and we are able to not only forget about our problems but learn how to overcome them. A few books that have gotten me through terrible times were “The Collect Regrets of Clover”, “Adelaide”, and “Elinor Oliphant is Completely Fine”.
DQs Day 3:10. We read something that moves us, touches us, speaks to us and it... it changes us?"
Do you agree with that quote? Are there any books that changed you personally?
A powerful book can give you new thoughts and that can certainly change a person! I thought about books that changed me and there are just too many to list them all. Nonfiction, fiction, beloved childhood classics - I would never finish :)
11. We finally get the first riddle. Did you guess it before Lucy did?
Yes, actually. I’m usually really bad at riddles, but I got this one right away. I wonder if it would have been more difficult, if I had been listening to the audio. Seeing the words written down definitely helped.
12. What did you think of The City of Secondhand and of Markham showing up like that? Is he just a sleezy lawyer, or is there something more sinister going on?
There’s a whole lot of money on the line and it was creepy how he new so many details of Lucy’s life. I think this might get more ugly.
13. do you have to keep reminding yourself that the "contestants" are adults, not children?
Not so far lol
Some other thoughts:
- Why would someone being a "famous artist" mean it's odd for them to bring a guest their dinner? I found this rather a lot weird.
I think she just meant she expected more staff.
- One for the backroom BOM regulars: Did the whole bizarre scarf thing give anyone else Hot Prof and Daisy vibes? 😆
DQs Day 5 — ch 24-end18. Jack and Lucy have an emotional discussion about dreams — and how giving up on dreams can be a relief as it’s one less thing to worry about. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Can giving up on a dream ever bring relief?
Dreams sometimes should remain a lovely idea especially if it's causing the dreamer angst if they do not achieve them. The lovely thing about dreams is the imagination and the hope they can inspire.
19. We finally got to meet Angie and learn her side of the story! Were you surprised by what she had to say? If you were Lucy, do you think you would be able to forgive her after hearing her side?
There are always two sides to the story, maybe three in this case. The parents sound horrible and fairly one dimensional. It's good that Lucy got to talk to her sister and move on with some sort of more positive relationship.
20. Lucy mentions that she and Jack are planning to start a nonprofit to send books to foster children, but just as she’s about to say the prospective name, she gets cut off. Why do you think the author chose to leave that out? What name do you think the author had in mind, if any?
I never even noticed this, good idea have no thoughts on the name.
21. In the end, even though the contest ended unlike how any of them predicted, everyone still got their wish. Since this book is all about wishing — is there anything you wish was different about the way the book ended, or are you happy with how it all wrapped up?
NIce positive happy ending. Enjoyed the book whilst reading it but it probably won't stick with me.
Discussion Questions : Day 1 (Prologue - Chapter 5)1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
Obviously, I love little Christopher. He's smart, quick-thinker, curious learner, but so sad in his life situation. Lucy I really like too. She's a woman after my own heart in many ways. I hope she finds a way to adopt Christopher. Hugo I'm not so sure about as of now. I' m neutral on him and the same with Jack since I know so little about him. However, I think he might be what helps Lucy to adopt Christopher...I hope.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
I have not read ahead and am just starting the book, so all I have read is the Prologue. I think I need more to truly speculate on this as the prologue is only three-and-a-half page long. I would guess, though, that it does have to do with what happened. My first thought was that one man lost his wife and another one lost his daughter, but we shall see.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
I basically disagree with Hugo. I also think it depends on what one considers success. For me it's not money. It's happiness in life, fulfillment, being at peace and satisfied with where you are in life. If you want more in any way and you go for it and obtain it, to me that's success also. I think that for most people, success in any area of their life makes them want more of the same so I don't think it kills it at all.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
I'm actually conflicted on this one because when I first read that Lucy was telling Christopher he'd be living with her and describing that situation, I thought, "He's only 7...you shouldn't be telling him all of that UNLESS you know you are going to be able to adopt him." So in this case I think it got his hopes up. I think she needed to be more careful in exactly what she told him because at his age I think if it doesn't work out it will just be one more huge loss for him.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
Jeez, on this one I really have no idea. I need more information on him. I will say that his way with riddles would be very annoying for me in real life because I am terrible with them!
Day 2 Chapter 6 - 116. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy?
I liked his letter to her and I believe his intentions were true and honest and he only wanted to help her. I personally would never have run away, but as they say: Until you've walked a mile in 'their' shoes, you can't say what you would've done. I know that I was raised in a strict but loving home and always knew I was loved, taken care of, and supported. I never had to ask to be told I was loved nor did I want for anything but certainly didn't get everything I ever wanted either. I had a very balanced upbringing so I wouldn't have run away.
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
I would definitely like to visit it because I find it intriguing and (as a reader) unique. I've seen others write about Willie Wonka but I don't recall that one. If I did read it, it would've been about 65 years ago, so I don't know about that and can't say it compares/contrasts. Not that you asked, just saying. lol
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
I'm pretty sure they're important to the story. I sure don't think it's just showing off his work.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child?
I think there probably will be since they both have in common their connection with Jack and the Clock Island series. But since nothing inappropriate happened when Lucy was a teenager and Hugo was an adult, I think it would be just fine now. But I don't see them romantically involved to be honest. Not saying they won't be, just saying I don't see them as a "match." I think I'm odd man out though.
Discussion Questions : Day 1 (Prologue - Chapter 5)1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
So far I like them all, I think. The jury was out at this point in my reading, and I am done now.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
I have read ahead. But, at the time, I gave the riddle a few minutes of my brain time, and got nothing.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
Um, no and yes. I think success changes what one feels is important to strive for. And sometimes, success does kill motivation. If, say, your life goal is to go to Disneyland, and when you get there, Goofy vomits on your brand new t-shirt, and the rides are disappointing, and the food is more money than you planned for, then you may start to rethink your other life goals.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
Generally healthy, yes. I think that hope is a good thing, and daydreaming is a very fun exercise. If she was presenting these things are promises, that would be different.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
At the time of reading this part, I was thinking he was looking for an heir of sorts. Like mentioned above, Willy Wonka.
DQs Day 2 Chapter 6 - 116. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy?
It's hard to judge whether I would do that, as my parents were very different from Lucy's. In her shoes, yea, maybe.
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
The island sounds cool, and if Narnia was a thing I could go to, I totally would.
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
I think they are interesting. It seems like the author tried to change the writing style a bit, which was a good idea.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child?
I had a crush on a distant cousin of mine when I was about seven, and I didn't see him for years after that. When I was a young adult, I met him again, and he was not worth having a crush on anymore, which was such a disappointment. But, Leaving the family connection out of it, I don't have a problem people meeting under different circumstances having different relationships than they did once.
DQs Day 3:10. We read something that moves us, touches us, speaks to us and it... it changes us?"
Do you agree with that quote? Are there any books that changed you personally?
Oh yes. Lines from books, characters from books, and complete books have changed my outlook on life, or just touched me in some way good or bad.
Just a few that got me one way or another were-
11. We finally get the first riddle. Did you guess it before Lucy did?Nope, I was listening to the audio version, and I heard the answer before I could pause it and contemplate. (Stupid customers coming in and spoiling a good part of the book.)
12. What did you think of The City of Secondhand and of Markham showing up like that? Is he just a sleezy lawyer, or is there something more sinister going on?
I was assuming sinister, as that was the vibe.
13. do you have to keep reminding yourself that the "contestants" are adults, not children?
Some bleed through from The Hunger Games in my brain, so yes, a bit.
Some other thoughts:
- Why would someone being a "famous artist" mean it's odd for them to bring a guest their dinner? I found this rather a lot weird.I have met a bunch of artists, famous and ones who think they should be, and I would not expect very many of them to be that considerate. So, not weird in my head.
- One for the backroom BOM regulars: Did the whole bizarre scarf thing give anyone else Hot Prof and Daisy vibes? 😆
I am impressed that you remembered her name, but yes, my mind went there too.
DQs Day 3:10. We read something that moves us, touches us, speaks to us and it... it changes us?"
Do you agree with that quote? Are there any books that changed you personally?
I do agree with the quote, and yet I can not think of any book that changed me personally.
11. We finally get the first riddle. Did you guess it before Lucy did?
No way. I'm really bad with riddles.
12. What did you think of The City of Secondhand and of Markham showing up like that? Is he just a sleezy lawyer, or is there something more sinister going on?
It really added an ominous twist to the story.
13. do you have to keep reminding yourself that the "contestants" are adults, not children?
No. They are adults and act like adults.
Some other thoughts:
- Why would someone being a "famous artist" mean it's odd for them to bring a guest their dinner? I found this rather a lot weird.
- One for the backroom BOM regulars: Did the whole bizarre scarf thing give anyone else Hot Prof and Daisy vibes? 😆
Day 11. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
I find all of the characters interesing so far. I'm curious to learn more about all of them, and I'm wondering if we'll get more backstory on them all (I hope we get a lot more). I do feel like Lucy feels a lot younger to me than 26 though. She seems to act a little clueless to the realities of life even though she's been through some tough things herself. While I love that she loves Christopher so much, it's surprising to me she doesn't understand why it's not feasible for her to take over his care completely right now. It might not seem fair, but it's very logical that no one would want to let someone foster/adopt a child when they're not stable. I'm hoping to see a character progression with her and that there's meaning behind making her seems so naïve at this point in the book.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
I thought right away that there has to be more to that riddle that ties in with Huge and Jack's actual history. I'm wondering if the "death" of a daughter doesn't mean an actual death but something that feels like that to a person?
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
I can't relate to this feeling at all, so it's hard for me to comprehend. I get that he has a lot of guilt on his conscience that we don't know everything about, so maybe there's something more there that makes it make sense.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
I see where Lucy's heart is coming from with this wishing game. A part of me feels like Lucy sees a lot of herself in Christopher and she's trying to be the person she needed growing up for him, but she also seems stunted in that mindset and hasn't quite evolved enough to realize that hope is always important to have, but there has to be a balance of hope/wishing with reality.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
I wondered if he is hoping to find someone to help take over the island when he passes on someday. I don't have any thoughts yet on why he's hosting a contest for it, but I'm definitely curious!
DQ's Day 4 Ch. 18-2314. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
I think she might start to doubt herself more. I’m not sure if she will win the game, but I have to think there will be a happy end for all players, especially for her.
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
Such difficult questions! I think he tried to give Autumn hope and that worked out well in other cases. Maybe a letter would have worked better at keeping some sort of realistic distance. But he had no way of knowing the outcome.
The sad reality is that it’s really difficult to help in these situations. I think I would have tried to work at the root of the problem, like creating a nonprofit organization or building up connections with social workers or the police, someone with the authority to actually do something.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
It made me realize that all the stories, for him, must have some truth to them. The picture of an alcoholic father as a werewolf really resonated with me.
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
Absolutely! Nothing comparable has happened to me, fortunately, but books have often helped me navigate just everyday life and its ups and downs.
DQ's Day 4 Ch. 18-2314. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
I have read ahead but I thought the fear would be something with not being able to foster. I am glad the author did not have her win everything as that would have been unrealistic to me.
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
That was so sad when I found out the meaning of the riddle. I don't think he could have or shoudl have done differently, just one of those tragedies!
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
No, but I loved Jack - he was my favorite throughout the book. Such a fun man!
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
I found this part annoying. She knows that if she goes to say goodbye to him that she is giving up chances of fostering/adoption, and makes no sense to me at all. Yes, books definitely have power for us readers and we carry impactful ones with us in ways we may not even realize :)
Discussion Questions : Day 1 (Prologue - Chapter 5)1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
I really like them -- especially Christopher & Lucy. It's the mom/caretaker in me that particularly resonates with Lucy. Hugo is snarky & fun & Chris is plucky and lost at the same time. Don't know enough about Jack yet....
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
No speculation whatsoever! I don't particularly enjoy riddles all that much!
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
Yup! I totally agree. We always used to say 'Gotta want it' in taekwondo. I think that holds true for just about anything. Poor kids from the street make better fighters because they're literally hungry. So if you are rich/spoiled you won't want anything enough to really work & go after it.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
I think it's a little bit of both, really. You shouldn't have really unreasonable hopes -- like being able to fly, for instance. But things that are actually attainable - - no matter how large or small they may be- - are necessary for good mental health.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
Maybe deep down inside, he knew he wasn't healthy. You need some sort of challenge to keep going day after day. This is especially true of high IQs. So many artists/actors/musicians/writers have killed themselves. I believe this is the reason.
1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?Lucy seems to be a nurturing and hopeful character who uses her imagination and games to provide comfort and optimism, particularly for Christopher. Her resilience and positivity are quite admirable, though it might also hint at a way to cope with her own disappointments and struggles. Christopher, on the other hand, appears to be a young character who has faced significant challenges, possibly within the foster care system. His engagement in the wishing game with Lucy suggests he is searching for hope and stability, clinging to the positive reinforcement that the game provides. Hugo comes across as a more grounded and perhaps cynical character, someone who has achieved success but feels a sense of emptiness or lack of fulfillment. His reflection on living in Greenwich Village indicates a deeper understanding of the difference between dreams and reality. Though off-page, Jack's presence is strongly felt. He seems to be a pivotal figure whose actions and creations profoundly impact the other characters. His decision to write again and create a contest indicates a possible transformation or revelation in his character arc.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
The riddle in the Prologue certainly seems to be related to the events that transpired five years ago, particularly the downfall of the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island. The mention of two men blaming the water for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter, despite neither being married or fathers, suggests a deeper metaphorical or symbolic meaning. It could imply shared guilt, loss, or tragedy tied to the ocean. My speculation is that the riddle alludes to an event that affected the community deeply, possibly an accident or disaster involving the ocean, which has left a lingering impact on the characters and the island.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
ecause often, the journey and struggle towards achieving a goal can be more motivating than the actual attainment of it. Once success is achieved, the initial drive and purpose might diminish, leading to a sense of complacency or disillusionment. However, this isn't universally true as many people find new goals or ways to stay motivated after achieving success. It largely depends on individual mindset and personal values.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
The wishing game that Lucy plays with Christopher can be seen from two different angles. From a positive perspective, the game provides hope and a sense of possibility. It allows them to dream and envision a better future, which can be a powerful motivator and source of comfort. For a child like Christopher, who may have faced numerous challenges, this hope can be crucial for emotional resilience. On the other hand, constantly engaging in wishful thinking without a realistic foundation can lead to disappointment and a sense of false hope, as the social worker suggests. It might prevent them from addressing their real-life issues practically and constructively. I believe that while the game can be a source of hope and positivity, it needs to be balanced with realistic planning and action to avoid the pitfalls of unrealistic expectations.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
Jack's return to writing and the decision to hold a contest for the only copy of his new book could be driven by several motives. He might have found new inspiration or a reason to write again, possibly linked to unresolved issues from the past or a newfound purpose. Holding a contest is also a strategic move to generate excitement and engagement from his audience, creating a sense of rarity and value around the new book. Additionally, Jack might have a personal connection or a message for the characters involved in the contest, using it as a means to communicate or influence their lives. The contest could also be a way to add an element of mystery and intrigue, aligning with the themes of his previous works and keeping his readers invested in his stories. Overall, Jack's actions suggest a complex interplay of personal, strategic, and narrative-driven motives.
DQs Day 5 — ch 24-end18. Jack and Lucy have an emotional discussion about dreams — and how giving up on dreams can be a relief as it’s one less thing to worry about. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Can giving up on a dream ever bring relief?
I think there can be truth to this, especially if it's something that really is keeping you down because it really can't happen. But I think there should always be dreams and big hopes in your life.
19. We finally got to meet Angie and learn her side of the story! Were you surprised by what she had to say? If you were Lucy, do you think you would be able to forgive her after hearing her side?
I was surprised and am a fan of communication to get to the truth of matters. Angie was just a teenager when she said that and we know that is a rough time in life with hormones and emotions, so I would have forgiven her.
20. Lucy mentions that she and Jack are planning to start a nonprofit to send books to foster children, but just as she’s about to say the prospective name, she gets cut off. Why do you think the author chose to leave that out? What name do you think the author had in mind, if any?
I honestly didn't really notice this.
21. In the end, even though the contest ended unlike how any of them predicted, everyone still got their wish. Since this book is all about wishing — is there anything you wish was different about the way the book ended, or are you happy with how it all wrapped up?
I'm actually happy with the ending, it needed to end with a HEA just based on the premise of the story. I also enjoyed the whimsy against the practicality of the book as a whole.
6. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy? Jack's letter must have been incredibly impactful for Lucy, offering her a glimmer of hope or a sense of direction that she felt was missing in her life. The fact that she decided to run away from home after receiving it suggests that the letter contained something profoundly motivating or comforting. If I were in Lucy's position, the decision to run away would depend heavily on my current circumstances. If home life was unbearable or devoid of any positive future prospects, a letter from someone like Jack, who symbolizes hope and adventure, might indeed push me to take such a drastic step. However, running away is always risky and fraught with potential dangers, so it's a decision that should not be taken lightly. Jack's letter clearly provided Lucy with the impetus she needed to seek a better life, even if it meant taking significant risks.
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
The concept of Clock Island, with each 'hour' being its own unique section like a beach, sounds absolutely fascinating. The idea of exploring an island divided into distinct areas, each with its own atmosphere and perhaps its own mysteries, is very intriguing. It's reminiscent of a storybook setting, which adds a magical and adventurous appeal. I would definitely be interested in visiting such a place to experience the diversity and uniqueness of each section. The creativity behind the concept of Clock Island sparks curiosity and a sense of wonder, making it a place worth exploring for anyone who enjoys imaginative and immersive environments.
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
The quotes from Jack's book that start each part of the story serve multiple purposes. They are not just showcasing Jack's work but also setting the tone and providing thematic foreshadowing for the sections they introduce. These quotes can offer insights into Jack's mindset, hint at underlying themes, and connect the reader more deeply with the narrative. They act as a bridge between Jack's fictional world and the real-life events of the story, enriching the reading experience by adding layers of meaning and context. Thus, they are important for the story, contributing to both its structure and its emotional impact.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child? It does seem like there will be a deeper connection developing between Lucy and Hugo. This potential relationship is layered with complexity, given their history and the fact that Hugo first met Lucy when she was still a child. If they do form a deeper bond, it's essential to consider how their past interactions and current dynamics play into this development. Hugo would need to be mindful of the power dynamics and ensure that any relationship is built on mutual respect and equality. As long as their connection is based on genuine understanding and care, and both parties are mature and consenting adults, it could be a positive and enriching relationship for both of them.
However, there is also a need to approach this with caution. The fact that Hugo knew Lucy as a child could introduce complications, especially regarding perceptions of power and influence. It's crucial that any deeper connection is approached with sensitivity and a clear understanding of boundaries. If handled well, this relationship could be a source of healing and growth for both characters, but it requires careful and respectful navigation of their past and present selves.
10. We read something that moves us, touches us, speaks to us and it... it changes us?" read them.Do you agree with that quote? Are there any books that changed you personally?
I wholeheartedly agree with the quote, "We read something that moves us, touches us, speaks to us and it... it changes us." Books have a profound ability to influence our thoughts, feelings, and perspectives. They can inspire us, challenge our beliefs, and even alter the course of our lives. Personally, books like "To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee and "1984" by George Orwell have had a significant impact on me. "To Kill a Mockingbird" taught me about empathy, justice, and moral courage, while "1984" opened my eyes to the dangers of totalitarianism and the importance of individual freedom. These books have shaped my understanding of the world and continue to resonate with me long after I first
11. We finally get the first riddle. Did you guess it before Lucy did?
When the first riddle was introduced, I found it intriguing and challenging. I did guess it before Lucy did, but her quick deduction was impressive. The riddle added a layer of mystery and engagement to the story, encouraging readers to think critically and try to solve it alongside the characters. Lucy's ability to solve the riddle highlights her intelligence and resourcefulness, adding depth to her character.
12. What did you think of The City of Secondhand and of Markham showing up like that? Is he just a sleezy lawyer, or is there something more sinister going on?
The City of Secondhand is a fascinating and unique setting, filled with rich imagery and a sense of whimsy mixed with melancholy. It symbolizes a place of forgotten dreams and discarded aspirations, which ties into the themes of the story. Markham's sudden appearance as a sleazy lawyer adds tension and conflict. While he initially comes across as a typical unscrupulous lawyer, there are hints that there might be something more sinister about him. His motives and actions suggest that he could play a larger, more nefarious role in the unfolding events, adding to the intrigue and suspense of the narrative.
13. do you have to keep reminding yourself that the "contestants" are adults, not children?
It can be easy to forget that the contestants are adults, not children, especially given the whimsical and fantastical elements of the story. The way they engage with the riddles and the imaginative settings can evoke a childlike sense of wonder and adventure. However, their complex emotions, past experiences, and personal struggles are clear reminders of their adulthood. This blend of childlike wonder and adult complexity adds depth to the characters and the overall narrative.
Some other thoughts:
- Why would someone being a "famous artist" mean it's odd for them to bring a guest their dinner? I found this rather a lot weird.
The comment about it being odd for a famous artist to bring a guest their dinner struck me as peculiar as well. It seems to undermine the artist's status and perhaps indicates a more down-to-earth or humble nature, or it could hint at a deeper connection or unusual circumstances that make such an act noteworthy.
DQs Day 5 — ch 24-end18. Jack and Lucy have an emotional discussion about dreams — and how giving up on dreams can be a relief as it’s one less thing to worry about. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Can giving up on a dream ever bring relief?
It's not what we are usually taught but it's like the mentality of simplying your life and living your best life in the present, so there is truth to it as well.
19. We finally got to meet Angie and learn her side of the story! Were you surprised by what she had to say? If you were Lucy, do you think you would be able to forgive her after hearing her side?
I found Angie's side of the story heartbreaking - Lucy thought she won, but she didn't, and didn't really have the love Lucy envied her for. Now that I know Angie's story, she had it more tragic than Lucy, although I don't think Lucy will ever see it that way.
20. Lucy mentions that she and Jack are planning to start a nonprofit to send books to foster children, but just as she’s about to say the prospective name, she gets cut off. Why do you think the author chose to leave that out? What name do you think the author had in mind, if any?
I just figured it was to show them discussing plans and faded away into the scene, but perhaps I did not look into it deeply enough...
21. In the end, even though the contest ended unlike how any of them predicted, everyone still got their wish. Since this book is all about wishing — is there anything you wish was different about the way the book ended, or are you happy with how it all wrapped up?
I was hoping Jack would still help all his kiddos no matter what> i loved him and Christopher and the joy the found in each other. The island remained a magical place. Again, feel bad for Angie though, she really got the short end of the stick.
DQ's Day 4 Ch. 18-2314. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
I've finished reading but at the time I thought that it really got to her. For a moment it seemed like she was giving up already. I thought that she still has a chance to win though.
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
This was such a horrible situation. I really can't say what I would have done. I think it would have broken me down. Pretty much like Jack. Except that I don't have that kind of money of course, so if they had good lawyers I'd be in jail probably.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
I mean I guess a little bit, but for the better. I really liked Jack.
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
I definitely do think that books have this power. Me personally, I am more of a coping through music girlie.
DQs Day 5 — ch 24-end18. Jack and Lucy have an emotional discussion about dreams — and how giving up on dreams can be a relief as it’s one less thing to worry about. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Can giving up on a dream ever bring relief?
I think for the moment it can be true but you'd find yourself wondering for the rest of your life.
19. We finally got to meet Angie and learn her side of the story! Were you surprised by what she had to say? If you were Lucy, do you think you would be able to forgive her after hearing her side?
I was definitely surprised by what she said and I'd forgive her, even if maybe not immediately.
20. Lucy mentions that she and Jack are planning to start a nonprofit to send books to foster children, but just as she’s about to say the prospective name, she gets cut off. Why do you think the author chose to leave that out? What name do you think the author had in mind, if any?
I can't tell, maybe for legal reasons? I don't have a clue about the name to be honest.
21. In the end, even though the contest ended unlike how any of them predicted, everyone still got their wish. Since this book is all about wishing — is there anything you wish was different about the way the book ended, or are you happy with how it all wrapped up?
I loved the ending so no, I don't wish for anything else here. The beginning of the book was a bit slow for me but then I really started to enjoy it so I ended up rating it 4 stars.
DQs Day 5 — ch 24-end18. Jack and Lucy have an emotional discussion about dreams — and how giving up on dreams can be a relief as it’s one less thing to worry about. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Can giving up on a dream ever bring relief?
Yes, I can easily imagine that, actually. Some dreams are not even our own! Or, as in Jack's case, a dream can obscure your vision for what's right in front of you - like the fact that he already had the son he wished for, just in a slightly different way than he had imagined.
19. We finally got to meet Angie and learn her side of the story! Were you surprised by what she had to say? If you were Lucy, do you think you would be able to forgive her after hearing her side?
I never blamed Angie, she was just a child herself. I wasn't surprised at all and I'm glad that Lucy got to hear it, too.
20. Lucy mentions that she and Jack are planning to start a nonprofit to send books to foster children, but just as she’s about to say the prospective name, she gets cut off. Why do you think the author chose to leave that out? What name do you think the author had in mind, if any?
Ha - good question! Maybe she, like me right now, couldn't think of a good name? I'm going to scroll through the other posts for this answer :)
21. In the end, even though the contest ended unlike how any of them predicted, everyone still got their wish. Since this book is all about wishing — is there anything you wish was different about the way the book ended, or are you happy with how it all wrapped up?
This was a feel-good book to me and the ending left me feeling good, so I have no real complaints. I did think that Hugo got a bit left out in the last part of the book, which was a shame as I liked him a lot. I would have liked to experience his own revolution first-hand and not just through Lucy.
Discussion Questions : Day 1 (Prologue - Chapter 5)1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
So far I'm liking them and finding I want to know more about them and their circumstances. I want to know more about Lucy's family that she says doesn't love her, about how Christopher's parents died, about why Hugo has stayed on Clock Island so long and why Jack Masterson didn't write for so many years.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
I'm not big on riddles, so I don't take too much time trying to figure them out. I'm not sure what, if anything, this one means.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
I think its more a matter of maturing - when we're young and idealistic certain things seem attractive and exotic. But when we get older we realize they often all that we thought they were when we were young.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
It's always good to have hope.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
This is one of the things I wonder about. I have no idea why he stopped in the first place and why he started again.
DQs Day 2 Chapter 6 - 116. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy?
Probably. I did run away as a teenager, although just to my best friend's house where I stayed for about a week.
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
I would love to visit this island - I do find it fascinating.
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
It seems like they are from his first book, which started it all, so they must mean something.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child?
Sure - she's an adult now. I don't see anything wrong with a romance between them, and since I love romance books, I'd like to see Lucy get an HEA.
Discussion Questions : Day 1 (Prologue - Chapter 5)1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far?
I liked all the characters especially Lucy and Christopher. My heart broke for them.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
I've finished the book now but in the start I never could have guessed what happened.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
It's not that you lose motivation but more like your priorities are changed. Depends on the individual. Some people thrive on success some feel lost after achieving their aim.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
It's good to have hopes and dreams. Though, I also agree with the social worker, unrealistic hope can be drastic for mental health.
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
Read the book.
DQs Day 2 Chapter 6 - 116. Jack replied to Lucy's letter and Lucy decided to run away from home. What did you think of his letter and would you have done the same as Lucy?
The letter was sweet but also irresponsible of Jack. He's naive if he doesn't realize what his words would mean to a disturbed teenager. I would have ran away to live on an island!
7. We get more insights on Clock Island. Every 'hour' is its own section like for example a beach. Would you like to visit the island? Do you find the idea of it fascinating or could you not care less?
The description of the island makes it fascinating and I would love to visit.
8. Every part starts with a quote from Jack's book. Do you think these parts are important for the story? Just showing off Jack's work? Something else?
They showcase Jack's work and also how important and inspirational his characters have been for the kids.
9. It seems like there will be a deeper connection between Lucy and Hugo. Do you agree? And would you approve of it given that Hugo had first met her when she was still a child?
They were both young and surly when they first met but really liked how well they connected the second time. Felt organic.
DQs Day 3:10. We read something that moves us, touches us, speaks to us and it... it changes us?"
Do you agree with that quote? Are there any books that changed you personally?
Books were the only thing that kept me sane growing up. Alice in Wonderland, Hobbit, Chronicles of Narnia...the list is long. All of them gave me reason to hope and dream.
11. We finally get the first riddle. Did you guess it before Lucy did?
I'm really bad at riddles!
12. What did you think of The City of Secondhand and of Markham showing up like that? Is he just a sleezy lawyer, or is there something more sinister going on?
Just a sleazy lawyer.
13. do you have to keep reminding yourself that the "contestants" are adults, not children?
Not really.
Some other thoughts:
- Why would someone being a "famous artist" mean it's odd for them to bring a guest their dinner? I found this rather a lot weird.
It was more of a surprise because of the size of the house and how rich they were she thought there would be servants for this sort of work.
DQs Day 3:10. "We read something that moves us, touches us, speaks to us and it... it changes us?"
Do you agree with that quote? Are there any books that changed you personally?
I do believe it is possible and I had that experience when I read Still Alice. The MC resonated with me in many ways and my dad was in a rehab after having a stroke and from that time on he never could read again. I hated the idea of that happening to me (being diabetic I could possibly lose my eyesight one day...praying not!). I'm not a good auditory learner but because of Alice's story of early onset Alzheimer's Disease, I decided to force myself to listen to audiobooks to train myself to be a good/better auditory learner in the even I ever am in my dad's situation. I would be able to listen to audiobooks and still enjoy them.
11. We finally get the first riddle. Did you guess it before Lucy did?
Heck no! I could lie and say I'm good with riddles, but if it had been a class in high school or college, I would've gotten my one and only F ever! lol
12. What did you think of The City of Secondhand and of Markham showing up like that? Is he just a sleezy lawyer, or is there something more sinister going on?
I definitely felt there was more to it, so something sinister for sure.
13. Do you have to keep reminding yourself that the "contestants" are adults, not children?
No, I'm assuming maybe the one who wrote the questions did but I didn't ever.
Some other thoughts:
- Why would someone being a "famous artist" mean it's odd for them to bring a guest their dinner? I found this rather a lot weird.
Day 1 (Prologue - Chapter 5)District 2
1. We have been introduced to a few important characters - Lucy, Christopher, and Hugo. Plus the off-page persona of Jack. What do you think of the characters so far? At first I didn’t really like Lucy, but she’s growing on me. Hugo, of course, is by far my favorite, followed by Jack who my move into my favorite spot the more I learn about him.
2. We get a riddle right away in the Prologue:
"Two men on an island and both blame the water
for the loss of a wife and the death of a daughter
but neither ever married, and neither's a father.
What is the secret of the girls and the water?"
Then Hugo thinks to himself that "Five years ago, it [the ocean] had brought low the small, strange kingdom of Clock Island." Do you think the riddle is related to what happened five years ago? Any speculations on what it all means, assuming you haven't read ahead?
I think this relates to something that happened five years ago to both Jack and to Hugo, but I’m sure there’s more to it. I thought this was a clever way to set up anticipation.
3. At the beginning of Chapter Two, Hugo says that he used to dream about living in Greenwich Village, but now that he can actually afford it, it doesn't hold the same appeal. He basically says that success kills motivation. Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?
I don’t agree at all. Hugo is a complicated character and although I don’t know all that’s happened to him, I get the feeling his low motivation is due to an overall sense of depression and lack of purpose.
4. What do you think of the wishing game Lucy plays with Christopher? Do you think this game and mindset are healthy? Do you agree with Lucy that it gives them hope, or do you agree with the social worker that it just gets their hopes up?
I understand the social worker’s point of view. It’s not the best idea to give a false sense of hope to a child, however, I feel without wishes and dreams, the child doesn’t have much hope. What really bothers me is Lucy’s lack of awareness of her desperate situation. Wouldn’t she be able to find another way to be more financially sound so she could adopt Christopher? I would think that would be her main priority. Of course, I understand this is where the drive comes to do what she does next…
5. Why do you think Jack finally started writing again? And what might be his motive in holding a contest for the only copy of the new book?
I love it! I think his motive might have to do with having an heir to Clock Island so his legacy and home are forever kept in good hands.
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14. Lucy's winning streak comes to an end and she loses the riddle to Melanie. How do you think this is going to affect her and the way she is playing the game? Do you think she still has a chance to win? What do you think she is going to have to face as far as her fear?
I think she’ll pick herself up and keep going - that is a skill she has learned in life. I think Jack wants her to win, and if a contestant doesn’t have a shot at all, wouldn’t he/she just go home? I think her fear will be around her family, and the fear of not being able to make a family with Christopher.
15. Jack's riddle comes back again "Two men on an island and both blame the water...". We find out what it means in this section. How awful for him to see 'fan' letters that depict children going through such terrible things and how horrible for those poor children begging for help. Jack tried to help this girl and it ended with the worst possible outcome. Do you think Jack should have done something different? How would you have reacted if you were Jack?
I think its easy to look back and see all the things that Jack could have done differently. After Lucy made her way to the island, in far less desperate circumstances, I think Jack could have been more proactive in the chance that Autumn would try to make her way there as well. It was a tragic outcome but he isn’t to blame, I don’t think. He, of course, blames himself, utterly. And as Autumn's death is the antithetical outcome of Jack’s core value, which is to protect and care for kids, this breaks him.
16. We also learn why Jack started writing his Clock Island books and the life he faced as a child. Does this change your opinion on Jack in any way?
It doesn’t change my opinion - just offers more context around why he is the way he is.
17. Lucy learns that Christopher is going to be going to a new foster home and tries to leave the island but Hugo stops her. We also learn more about Lucy's past. Each person seems to have gone through some terrible event in their lives and these books have helped them through it. Do you believe books have that power? Are there any books as a child or an adult that have helped you through a tough time in your life?
Without a doubt. I found The Lord of the Rings young, and our family moved a bit growing up. With every new location, I would find a nature-filled place and go to Middle Earth in my imagination. I also loved Madeline L’Engle’s Meet the Austin series - poetry, physics, dolphins - helped a lot with a new school district, early teen years stuff.