Buddy Reads

[Tien]

Dee wrote: "Tien - I haven’t mostly because I know authors aren’t compensated for books that are uploaded there - because ppl can scan and upload etc - so basically it’s open piracy"

I didn't realise that... I've only just signed up & tried to d/l 1 book; it looked legit and d/l is DRM instead of open epub. I didn't really look into it much, I guess the use of 'library' was rather deceptive.

[Dee]

Very! I just remember a recent twitter thread with John Scalzi on it after NPR promoted open library and the author uproar

[Marina]

I've been using OpenLibrary for a while, even before their National Emergency Library thing... I have to say I'm quite torn re how it's being managed at the moment, but it looked perfectly legit to me before the emergency... There was a waitlist just like in any normal library, so only one copy could be lent at a time. The books are scanned, but you cannot keep them, as the loan expires after 14 days, and since what you actually get is an .acsm file which you need to open with Adobe Digital Editions, it will no longer be readable after the loan expires. I guess if you're tech-savvy enough you can work around that, but I think the vast majority of people (like myself) don't have either the knowledge or the desire to do that, because that would be piracy indeed.

[Dee]

But scanned ebooks is the issue - that means someone bought a book scanned it; turned it into an adobe pdf - not hard to do and uploaded it - that right there is author’s issues with it - I know the argument is made well they don’t get paid for library borrows but in general library copies (print and ebook) are must costly than what you/I pay in order to give them some compensation

[Marina]

As far as I understand it, they are supposed to be physical books actual libraries bought and afterwards scanned for OpenLibrary. So the book has in fact been bought, and if you limit the loan and set up a waitlist like a normal library would, then it should be legit. The problem arises when they loan the same scanned book to several people at once, which is in fact quite shady. I've read a few articles about this, and I have to admit I'm still unsure where I stand. Anyway, I'm Italian so I'm not familiar with US copyright law at all, which means my understanding of the whole thing might be wrong.

[Tien]

Dee wrote: "i'm adding The Hope and The Glory to my currently read pile

anyone interested in joining me - The Hope is 700ish pages and free on Kindle Unlimited"

*sighs* I started reading a historical fiction about a Jewish woman directly in the aftermath of WWII so felt a little more interested in your suggestion, Dee, but found I can't source it :/ Not on AU KU unfortunately.

[Dee]

Bummer tien!

[Tien]

@Lusie: I've created a thread for our buddy read of Tatiana & Alexander, here

If anyone would like to join in, please do!

[Tien]

I'm about to start Winter (The Lunar Chronicles #4) (827p) on audio, if anyone would like to buddy up?

Or what about Lair of Dreams (The Diviners #2) (613p)?

[Dee]

Anyone interested in buddy reading 11/22/63?

[Tien]

Dee wrote: "Anyone interested in buddy reading 11/22/63?"

I've read it & Loved it! Hope you find someone :)

[Dee]

couple more big books on my list

A Game of Thrones
Wolf Hall - i'm on the library wait list for this - so it may be a couple months (right now prediction is 10 weeks) - so it would be a future read

[Tien]

I've read GoT, Dee, but willing to give Wolf Hall a go. Just tap me when you're ready.

Actually... let me check if there's a waiting list for it.

ETA: a couple of copies appear to be available for me to borrow without any waiting list.

[Dee]

Sounds good I’ll keep an eye out and let you know

I’m guessing it’s popular with book 3 just being released

[Dee]

Time Enough for Love - Robert A. Heinlein

[Tien]

Hm, sorry, Dee, I don't think it's my thing (:

[Lisette]

Sorry Dee, that book is not for me either

[Dee]

It’s normally not mine but prompt 1 outside comfort zone and all that

[Tien]

oooh, good one ha ha ha

But I have a feeling I'd be too frustrated with it to struggle through 500+ pages :p

[Dee]

I’m going to do the audiobook - since I can’t do anything but run/walk outside for 2 weeks - good listening

[Tien]

@Joanna, I've started our thread for Thunderhead (Arc of a Scythe #2): here

@Susan, just give me a tap when you got The Toll (Arc of a Scythe #3) from the library - I own a copy so can do anytime.

[Joanna]

Tien wrote: "@Joanna, I've started our thread for Thunderhead (Arc of a Scythe #2): here

@Susan, just give me a tap when you got The Toll (Arc of a Scythe #3) from the library -..."

I also have a copy of The Toll and would be interested in reading it after we finish Thunderhead.

[Susan]

@Susan, just give me a tap when you got The Toll (Arc of a Scythe #3) from the library -..."

Will do.

[Dee]

i'd be ready to go with the Toll as soon as you are done with Thunderhead - cause holy cliff-hanger

[Tien]

Lusie and I are going to buddy read The Butterfly Room

To start Jun-14 & thread is here

[Stacey]

Tien wrote: "@Joanna, I've started our thread for Thunderhead (Arc of a Scythe #2): here

@Susan, just give me a tap when you got The Toll (Arc of a Scythe #3) from the library -..."

Ooh, I'd love to join this....if only they would open up the library!! :(

[Susan]

Dee wrote: "i'd be ready to go with the Toll as soon as you are done with Thunderhead - cause holy cliff-hanger"

No kidding! But it's interesting, I didn't mind it like I do some cliff-hangers. It didn't seem contrived, I guess. Some really annoy me, as though the only point of a book was to get you hooked on the next one. I didn't feel that way about this one.

[Dee]

i got stuck waiting a year for The Toll to come out

[Tien]

Actually, I heard about the cliff hanger so I decided to hang on and wait for The Toll. I've got both but ya know, how it is... I just got to get around to them and now is the time :p

[Tien]

So, looking over my Moving Mountains, I've got a few classics to read and I need some support!

Is anyone keen on any of the following:
The Forsyte Saga
Westwood
Sons and Lovers

[Dee]

Tien wrote: "I've read GoT, Dee, but willing to give Wolf Hall a go. Just tap me when you're ready.

Actually... let me check if there's a waiting list for it.

ETA: a couple of copies appear to be available f..."

Tien - wolf hall says sometime in next week or so per library hold list

[Tien]

ok - it's still available for me but I don't want to borrow it now because I can't renew on that system. Let me know when you got it :)

[Tien]

Rachel P & I are going to buddy read starting next week. If anyone would like to join, the thread is here

[Susan]

I wasn't sure whether to post this question on the Thunderhead thread or here, so I'm doing both.

Tien & Stacey,
I just received a notice that I can borrow the digital edition of The Toll. What did you decide about if/when to start it? Because if it's soon, I'm in. My loan will only be for 3 weeks, and I have 3 days to either check it out or let someone go ahead of me in line.

[Tien]

Susan, I'm in the middle of a buddy read & will start another one with Stacey in a few days.

However, if you want to take this slowly, I can try to fit it in :)

[Susan]

Tien wrote: "Susan, I'm in the middle of a buddy read & will start another one with Stacey in a few days.

However, if you want to take this slowly, I can try to fit it in :)"

I think I'll let it go for now. It's so much more fun to read with others. My next turn should come around soon, since I stay at the top of the list.

[Stacey]

Susan wrote: "I wasn't sure whether to post this question on the Thunderhead thread or here, so I'm doing both.

Tien & Stacey,
I just received a notice that I can borrow the digital edition of ..."

Sorry Susan! I think I am out for the next book for now. I made the mistake of reading some reviews and I'm not sure I want to read it at all.

[Dee]

Stacey wrote: "Susan wrote: "I wasn't sure whether to post this question on the Thunderhead thread or here, so I'm doing both.

Tien & Stacey,
I just received a notice that I can borrow the digit..."

i recommend ignoring the reviews! i thought he did a good job of tying all the pieces up

[Tien]

well, Susan, let me know whenever, I'll make room :)

[Dee]

Tien wrote: "ok - it's still available for me but I don't want to borrow it now because I can't renew on that system. Let me know when you got it :)"

Wolf hall came in today

[Tien]

Does that mean you've borrowed it, Dee?

How long have you got (ie. when do you want to start & finish)?

I'll be going digital and I've just checked that it's available BUT I can't seem to 'renew' on that app - so I think I only have 21 days or something...

[Dee]

21 days - I got it yesterday - I won’t be able to renew it because there is a waitlist

It’s roughly 30pgs or 5% a day - is that doable for you?

[Tien]

Ok, I borrowed it this morning.

I'll do my best, Dee, as I can't renew either, as I said. I see that there are 6 parts so aim for 2 parts per week? That should bring it right to the end... though of course, if you love it, you'd probably finish in a week lol

I gtg now but will create the thread later on this morning :)

[Dee]

sounds good! i started today - because i was bored (sitting in hotel room) but i likely won't finish in a week because i have like 4 big books (450+ pgs) going right now...

Wolf Hall (604pgs)
Where the Light Enters (652pgs)
The Dragon Republic (658pgs)
Dragonfly (563pgs)

[Tien]

Ooh, are you travelling for work?

I also have The Dragon Republic, ummm... and I have also nearly as many big books going as you ha ha ha

[Dee]

Tien wrote: "Ooh, are you travelling for work?

I also have The Dragon Republic, ummm... and I have also nearly as many big books going as you ha ha ha"

sitting in my hotel room waiting for my flight for deployment - its been pushed off 3 weeks so far - i've been in a hotel room for 7 weeks nearly

[Tien]

Here's the thread for Wolf Hall.

[Tien]

Yikes! Where are you supposed to be going, Dee? I'd think it be very uncertain if you're crossing any sort of borders... though can you even go home (ie. you're not in your home state, are you?)

[Dee]

Tien wrote: "Yikes! Where are you supposed to be going, Dee? I'd think it be very uncertain if you're crossing any sort of borders... though can you even go home (ie. you're not in your home state, are you?)"

europe on a ship for 10months ish for military deployment - the delay is because we are limited on transportation overseas right now

[Tien]

Are you sharing a room? Although... you'd have to be living on close quarters anyway on the ship...

They're paying for all your food too, of course? Gets quite expensive, isn't it, eating "out" all the time.