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Was 9/11 a false flag attack and 'Inside Job'? (GROUP POLL RESULT: 50% of you say YES)
One more thing that doesn't add up concerning 9/11...Why did George W. Bush continue sitting with the kids in the kindergarten for like an hour after after the first tower was hit????
John Banks, our ex-intelligence agent group member, posted elsewhere that: "Its the duty of the Secret Service protection detail to get the President into a safe location, with an event such as 911 that location should be a secure command centre! No one knew exactly what was happening, how big it was going to get yet Bush did not move for over an hour? MAJOR BS!!!"
How many ridiculous events do people need to hear before they finally accept that on some level, at the highest echelons, 9/11 was an inside job?
I could go on with many more...
James Morcan wrote: "I think this image says it all about 9/11: https://www.goodreads.com/photo/group..."It certainly does and when you add that image to the image of the "hole in the wall" at the Pentagon and eye witness reports from the Pentagon about minute wreckage, no bodies, no baggage, then the "undamaged passport of a terrorist" found in the "rubble of WTC" and a whole bunch of individually minor things that when added together show a totally different story to the official one, AND WHY?????
Why? Follow the money, right?
9/11 has fuelled trillions of dollars worth of Military Industrial Complex profits.
And all that revenue for just under 3,000 lives.
That's a bargain for the psychopaths in power pulling the strings of these events!
Before entering the classroom around 9:02 AM he was aware of the crash of Flight 11 into the North Tower. Later he said:And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, 'There's one terrible pilot.' And I said, 'It must have been a horrible accident.' But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it." 1
Since the only known footage of the North Tower impact was not played on TV until much later, his statement being true would mean that his Secret Service detail had access to video from a secret camera trained on the North Tower at the time of the first impact.
Bush said he saw it on TV before it was actually aired on TV!!! The above is from the article!
John wrote: "http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/a...Very very interesting article to go with the posts above!!"
Everyone should read that article...
Unfortunately, most will not :(
The article and timeline are eye opening. The first and foremost responsibility the secret service has under time of attack is to protect the president. If this were a terrorist attack and the president's presence at the school was well known, why did the secret service not take him immediately to at least a more secure spot such as his bullet proof limo? Incompetence is not the answer.
Stephen wrote: "The article and timeline are eye opening. The first and foremost responsibility the secret service has under time of attack is to protect the president. If this were a terrorist attack and the pres..."So very correct Stephen, also being the magnitude of events on that day no one knew how big it was going to get, in an even like this the President IS supposed to be moved to a command centre that is secure from any type of attack, after all not much good being the Commander in Chief from a school tea room!
And guys, the fact that nobody (to my knowledge) in the military, secret service, government or intelligence agencies has been fired for their complete failure to protect civilians on 9/11, is further evidence that it was on some level an inside job. Many who were on watch on that day have since been promoted!Normally, as you know, after such a spectacular security f#@& up in which the most militarily superior country on earth was usurped by a small group of individuals representing peasant nations, numerous heads are supposed to roll in the US security/defense sectors...That would be protocol.
The sports equivalents of what the homeland security people achieved on 9/11 would be a football player dropping/fumbling every single ball that is kicked in their direction, or a tennis player missing every ball he swings at, or a boxer being knocked out cold in the first round.
John wrote: "Before entering the classroom around 9:02 AM he was aware of the crash of Flight 11 into the North Tower. Later he said:And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airp..."
Applying Occam's Razor, the simpler explanation is he was lying about seeing it. I find that easy to believe.
There's a lot that doesn't add up here and I have yet to find a satisfactory explanation that explains all the facts. I suspect the undamaged passport was planted after the fact to help the narrative. That doesn't prove, by itself, that the narrative is false. It's just that when you add up all the little things like that, the narrative looks like the emperor's clothes.
My biggest problem with blaming the Bush administration for it is the fact that they never did anything they didn't screw up royally. Can we really believe they carried out an operation of this complexity and didn't leave a smoking gun lying around?
Jim wrote: "My biggest problem with blaming the Bush administration for it is the fact that they never did anything they didn't screw up royally. Can we really believe they carried out an operation of this complexity and didn't leave a smoking gun lying around? ..."I think that logic, which has been used by quite a few pro-official story thinkers like Noam Chomsky (who has specifically asked that question in numerous speeches), is slightly off track as it implies that for 9/11 to have been an inside job "the Bush administration" must have carried out the crime. It's kind of a 20th Century mindset which still assumes Presidents and their administrations have some great power rather than simply being cogs in a very complex wheel. It also assumes that an entire administration must be behind all such events.
Pretty sure we are dealing with much higher players, and more shadowy figures, than the Bush administration - the latter mostly being pawns I'd say and 99% of the administration being completely innocent and uninvolved in anything nefarious. However, a few of them, especially in the highest echelons, were probably directly involved on some level. If George W. Bush was involved or had prior knowledge, he would've likely been a very low-level player and more of a dumb accessory to the crime rather than being some great architect of it all.
And rather than wondering which non-terrorist, non-Islamic group in America and/or the West engineered the entire crime, I believe it's better to first work out if it was a false flag operation or not. Perhaps the culprits will never be known or charged, but one thing the public can do is figure out whether the official story of religious foreigners carrying out the attack 100% by themselves is true or not. That to me is infinitely more important in the big picture.
Again, I'd implore everyone to check out this short video which is satirical and very sarcastic, yet thru the humor it does list all the major red flags or holes in the government's version: https://www.goodreads.com/videos/7380...
And this interview with Rudy Dent, a 32 year veteran of NYC fire department and the NYPD who talks about his first hand experience with WTC 7 and why the event was "absolutely a false flag attack", is another must see: https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9014...
So rather than applying Occam's Razor, I think in this instance it's probably more appropriate to apply the Duck Test: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Just replace duck with false flag attack.
Were this a court case, and all the evidence presented to any semi-intelligent jury in an unbiased fashion, it'd be "beyond reasonable doubt" that those being termed "Islamic terrorists" were either not responsible or at the very least not the chief architects.
However, the question of "who were the puppet masters pulling the strings on that day" is a whole other story that's one gigantic scary rabbit hole. After all, such powerful criminals cover their tracks very well and are masters at shifting blame onto others...
p.s. Were this a court case or fully public investigation in which no bias (either from conspiracy believers or the military), the following (courtesy of https://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-c... ) is essentially the government's version that would need to be presented with a straight face by some hapless government defense attorney: On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with boxcutters directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor.
These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers, managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York, while in Washington a pilot who couldn’t handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corskscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground, hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in a press conference the day before, on September 10, 2001.
Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day, and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap. But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.
The investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC7, Able Danger, Ptech, Sibel Edmonds, OBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“. Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.
The DIA destroyed 2.5 TB of data on Able Danger, but that’s OK because it probably wasn’t important.
The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks, but that’s OK because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping.
NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC7’s collapse, but that’s OK because knowing how they made their model of that collapse would “jeopardize public safety“.
The FBI has argued that all material related to their investigation of 9/11 should be kept secret from the public, but that’s OK because the FBI probably has nothing to hide.
Osama Bin Laden lived in a cave fortress in the hills of Afghanistan, but somehow got away. Then he was hiding out in Tora Bora but somehow got away. Then he lived in Abottabad for years, taunting the most comprehensive intelligence dragnet employing the most sophisticated technology in the history of the world for 10 years, releasing video after video with complete impunity (and getting younger and younger as he did so), before finally being found in a daring SEAL team raid which wasn’t recorded on video, in which he didn’t resist or use his wife as a human shield, and in which these crack special forces operatives panicked and killed this unarmed man, supposedly the best source of intelligence about those dastardly terrorists on the planet. Then they dumped his body in the ocean before telling anyone about it. Then a couple dozen of that team’s members died in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.
This is the story of 9/11, brought to you by the media which told you the hard truths about JFK and incubator babies and mobile production facilities and the rescue of Jessica Lynch.
If you have any questions about this story…you are a batshit, paranoid, tinfoil, dog-abusing baby-hater and will be reviled by everyone. If you love your country and/or freedom, happiness, rainbows, rock and roll, puppy dogs, apple pie and your grandma, you will never ever express doubts about any part of this story to anyone. Ever.
This has been a public service announcement by: the Friends of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, SEC, MSM, White House, NIST, and the 9/11 Commission. Because Ignorance is Strength.
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Here's the video to the above transcript: https://www.goodreads.com/videos/7380...
The knowledge in this video will blow your mind, guys:9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money! (Pre-9/11 insider trading leak confirms a group of US investors had foreknowledge of the attacks) -- https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9036...
Turns out certain mysterious investors/traders in the US and the West made enormous sums of money (as in billions and trillions) just before and especially on the morning of 9/11...
Investigations and since declassified documents have revealed these investors had foreknowledge of the attacks and that's why they "gambled" so heavily on investments related to the WTC, insurance, security and counterterrorism.
I don't believe Bush knew anything about the attacks. Probably Cheney and Rumsfeld had to be in on it at some level, possibly as dupes and not willing participants. My point that I haven't found a satisfactory explanation includes the official narrative. I never for a second thought it was true. I just don't feel like we have enough information for a reasonable working hypothesis, just that some people benefited and some people had foreknowledge.I liked the sarcastic video.
Jim wrote: "I don't believe Bush knew anything about the attacks. Probably Cheney and Rumsfeld had to be in on it at some level, possibly as dupes and not willing participants. My point that I haven't found ..."No worries, and playing the Devil's Advocate is definitely the best way to approach such controversial theories...especially as sometimes everything lines up to look like a conspiracy even tho it isn't one. It's just that no matter how much I play the Devil's Advocate concerning 9/11 conspiracy theories, the official story never makes sense to me. The government's story just has to be BS and I also think the contrary evidence is becoming overwhelming even for the mainstream public.
But I agree there's no obvious alternative explanation and we simply may never know the ultimate truth concerning who conceived this crime or why. Also, I think your theory that Cheney and Rumsfeld may not have been willing participants and somehow forced into it also sounds very possible.
James Morcan wrote: "p.s. Were this a court case or fully public investigation in which no bias (either from conspiracy believers or the military), the following (courtesy of https://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-c......"Great comments James!! Dont forget that the bearded guy in the cave managed to switch off NORAD, also what happened to the ARMED sky marshalls on the planes, confronted by box cutters did they simply surrender?
It's not surprising that there isn't a neat theory that accounts for everything. If there were, I probably wouldn't believe it because reality is messy.
I watched the Follow the Money video last night. I knew some of that but I didn't know how widespread it was. 9/11 must have been the worst kept secret in the world. How can we know so little about it given all this?
Jim wrote: "I watched the Follow the Money video last night. I knew some of that but I didn't know how widespread it was. 9/11 must have been the worst kept secret in the world. How can we know so little about it given all this?..."Beats me!
I was thinking...I wonder if there's a list somewhere of all the CEOs or other office workers who happened to not be in the Twin Towers, and Building 7, on the day of 9/11? I know Larry Silverstein, who held the lease of the WTC, had an appt with a dermatologist on the morning (missing his first day out of work in the years since taking over the towers) and I heard of another CEO who had a dentist appt as well as a senior banker who had a media commitment...
The head of that computer security company attended a teleconference from his apartment. Most of the people in his office died.
Jim wrote: "The head of that computer security company attended a teleconference from his apartment. Most of the people in his office died."So what does that mean? That all the records of who was in the WTC on 9/11 and who was "sick" or otherwise absent, have been lost by that computer security company?
It basically means that here are a lot of people without a conscience who are motivated by total control and money!!9/11 was the start of the War on Terror, the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, drone war against Pakistan, the war against Bashar Al Assad and multiple other massive crimes and all of this was started by 15 men armed with "box cutters" which is another description for a "Stanley Knife" with which they managed to defeat ARMED Sky Marshals, force their way into sealed off cockpits and fly large airliners after training on a Cessna, perform maneuvers that highly experienced pilots with multiple hours in on airliners say they could not have done easily!
Folks anyone dumb enough to believe the official explanation is F@#$%^G Dorfe, (Africans word for stupid)!
John wrote: "It basically means that here are a lot of people without a conscience who are motivated by total control and money!!9/11 was the start of the War on Terror, the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, dron..."
Yup.
And the box cutter/Stanley Knife angle is possibly the most important piece of the puzzle...Because anytime you get more than a dozen or more men in one area - whether it be a plane, train or boat - there would always be at least one guy who would either have the skills to potentially overpower the knife holder or else be brave enough to attempt to overpower them.
Right?
And if so, there were hundreds of passengers on the plane, not just a dozen. Many would have been trained martial artists, some would have been criminals, others would simply be brave. That's a big angry mob to hold off just with little Stanley Knives!
And yes, if there were sky marshals, then obviously guns beats knives. However, are we 100% there were sky marshals on those planes? I thought I read somewhere there were not any marshals on those planes...But I could be wrong.
Normally Sky Marshals on every flight going back past 911.Plus if the total number of bad guys was 15, on 4 planes, that means 4/4/4/3, i am sure most people would attempt to attack guys hijacking a plane with a box cutter, after all its normally pretty certain that hijackings end up with plenty of dead people!
Got to agree with you James, also, how did they get into "sealed cockpits"???????????????
John wrote: "Normally Sky Marshals on every flight going back past 911.Plus if the total number of bad guys was 15, on 4 planes, that means 4/4/4/3, i am sure most people would attempt to attack guys hijacking..."
Yeah, if I were on a hijacked plane I'd think there's nothing to lose at that point...You'd know it wouldn't be likely to end well, so may as well go down swinging!
The exact number of sky marshals per my knowledge is not exactly known to the public. I have this article that I pulled on the subject making we ask if an Air Marshal was on one of the 911 flights.http://www.businessinsider.com/5-ways...
Check out this 2 minute video:U.S. (FEMA) Cameraman says he has proof 9/11 was a lie https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9115...
And this video too: 9/11 INTERCEPTED - Brought to you by Pilots For 9/11 Truth -- https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9115...
There was a good comment on a forum I saw about this video: "four planes crashed leaving nothing behind them. No black boxes, no corpses, no bits of fuselage, no luggage, no seats survived. However a pristine passport was discovered several blocks away, in perfect condition, not a scorch mark. The fires melted steel but didn't touch that passport."
I'm not into the whole numerology thing, but here's a curiosity: American Airlines flight 11 (11)United Airlines flight 93 (9+3=12)
United Airlines flight 175(1+7+5=13)
American Airlines flight 77 (7+7=14)
The four flights come out as 11, 12, 13, 14. Not claiming anything other than it's a curiosity. Coincidence? Perhaps. There are those who believe in numerology that might read something deeper into this line of consecutive numbers. Just thought I'd share that--if nobody else has already.
The obvious numerological correspondence is the date, 9/11, with the emergency telephone code. Of course, only Americans write the date with the month before the day and 911 is the American emergency phone number. Makes those Afghani troglodytes extra clever.
Ha!Nice subtle point, Jim.
These are ultra sophisticated cave dwellers we are dealing with...
I've just stumbled upon this interesting thread and am disappointed I missed the poll. I do believe 9/11, Pearl Harbor and The Boston Marathon were some sort of inside jobs, unfortunately those around me believe what the media has fed them to believe that I am a paranoid conspiracy theorist. The last thing i want to be is indelicate and i genuinely know that although an inside job, these events are tragic and utterly sad. However I can only do my own research and deduce my own conclusion that logically the chain of events broadcasted by media just cannot be accepted at face value.
Erica wrote: "I've just stumbled upon this interesting thread and am disappointed I missed the poll. I do believe 9/11, Pearl Harbor and The Boston Marathon were some sort of inside jobs, unfortunately those aro..."Don't worry, Erica - in time all lies get exposed...And believing 9/11 was an Inside Job has shifted from a bizarre tinfoil hat-style belief to one that about half the American population (and possibly more than half of the worldwide population has). It's only a matter of time before the 9/11 Inside Job theory is widely discussed in the mainstream media and held up as the more likely theory.
Certainly it's a lot more credible than the govt's official story!
I keep thinking about how no major figures in the US Govt (including intelligence and military) were fired for what was supposedly the biggest stuff up in US defense history...Given that a dozen or so terrorists armed with box cutters, being directed by some warlords in caves in Afghanistan, completely evaded the most sophisticated and advanced defense system and closely guarded airspace in the history of the Earth...It was the sporting equivalent of a world heavyweight champion boxer being knocked out first round by a lightweight, or maybe a tennis professional not only losing every single point of every game but also not managing to hit the ball with their racquet at any stage! "Collosal Stuff up" doesn't even begin to describe the ineptitude of the US defense departments on that day...
So not firing anyone in the US Govt afterward seems like a subtle indicator that the powers-that-be admit and know and aren't even trying to hide the fact that on some level, at the very top, the attacks were orchestrated or at least allowed to happen. Because the logical thing would have been for the President to fire numerous key figures...Heads should've rolled. Period.
I found this post (below) on the Democracy Underground website: http://www.democraticunderground.com/...
The United States has 17 intelligence agencies...
The 17 IC member agencies are:
Air Force Intelligence
Army Intelligence
Central Intelligence Agency
Coast Guard Intelligence
Defense Intelligence Agency
Department of Energy
Department of Homeland Security
Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Drug Enforcement Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Marine Corps Intelligence
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
National Reconnaissance Office
National Security Agency
Navy Intelligence
Office of the Director of National Intelligence
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?form......
They ALL got it wrong?
But, one other event stands out in my mind--the attack on the first WTC tower:
QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?
BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE)
Thank you, Jordan (ph).
Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."
But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTI...
Now, even if the first attack was "one terrible pilot," wouldn't you expect the POTUS to cancel all appearances and appear before the American people and announce what happened and how he was going to respond. I mean, he had to know hundreds, if not thousands, of people died in that accident. Wouldn't he feel the necessity to assure Americans about how the government was going to react? FEMA? Medical emergency teams? Contacting New York state and city government to coordinate help? Wouldn't that be the role of the POTUS after a man-made disaster like a airliner crashing into one of the nation's tallest building?
Yet what does he do? Goes into a classroom for a photo-op to read a children's book.
Very telling; he was doing what he was suppose to do...
Terrorists that carried out 9/11 with box cutters...A Saudi passport that survived the fireball and fell down all that distance and remained totally readable and intact...
Devout terrorists that went on the booze with hookers just nights before going to meet Allah...
Could it have been someone has been telling lies?
My comments are very late. I believe 9/11 was an inside job. Hollywood has mentioned the 9/11 attacks in tv shows and movies before the attacks which I'm sure most of you are aware of. I wanted to share this vidclip from YouTube of a 1948 cartoon of Porky Pig where they are describing the 9/11 attacks, more than 20 years before the towers were even built.https://youtu.be/Y-_ghHANKzo
Have you heard that Putin is going to prove that 9/11 was an inside job?From YourNewsWire:
"According to Kremlin insiders, President Putin has named September 11th 2016 as the date he plans to release the satellite footage proving conclusively the US government’s darkest secret: that the 9/11 attacks were a false flag terrorist event committed against their own citizens."
http://yournewswire.com/putin-russia-...
Harry wrote: "Have you heard that Putin is going to prove that 9/11 was an inside job?From YourNewsWire:
""According to Kremlin insiders, President Putin has named September 11th 2016 as the date he plans to release the satellite footage proving conclusively the US government’s darkest secret: that the 9/11 attacks were a false flag terrorist event committed against their own citizens."
..."
Wow!
Go Putin!
I just he's still alive by Sept 11th of this year...I mean, he could have an "accident" on about the 10th if he isn't careful...
If true, it'll be a momentous day, but somehow I also feel it'll be the start of some very scary times..."Putin's number one!" (Shivers.)
"At the length, the truth will out." -Shakespeare
(Ahem,) David Icke, once again, got there first on exposing 9/11:Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster
Harry wrote: "(Ahem,) David Icke, once again, got there first on exposing 9/11:Alice im Wunderland und das World Trade Center Desaster"
You posted the German edition, mate...Is this your day of promoting the Germans and the Russians?
Back when that book was published probably only about 5% of the population had suspicions about the whole event.
Now it's around 45-55% (depending on which poll) of the American public believe the event was an inside job...as reported by CNN and MSNBC etc.
In other countries, like in the EU, Russia and especially the Middle East, probably it's more like 60-80%.
And yet...still the mainstream media tries to present such ideas as lunatic stuff...
Oops. Yeah, have changed that edition.Yeah, you're right about the increase in belief and awareness. I'm still waiting to see the evidence that 9/11 wasn't an inside job... (i.e - there's so much evidence FOR.)
Harry wrote: "Oops. Yeah, have changed that edition.Yeah, you're right about the increase in belief and awareness. I'm still waiting to see the evidence that 9/11 wasn't an inside job... (i.e - there's so much evidence FOR.) ..."
Ha!
I think the history books will in time say that the conspiracy theory was actually the US Government's official story of 9/11...Likewise for the Warren Commission's "analysis" of JFK's murder...
James Morcan wrote: "Did you guys hear the theory that the masterminds behind 9/11 (assuming it was indeed an Inside Job) used training drills as a distraction?Apparently there were dozens of training drills happenin..."
I find its more helpful to explain to ppl that inside job does not mean everyone in gov is bad. Really, it's a sect of elite globalist masters who have penetrated the government. That's what I believe anyway. And they threaten ppl who don't go along with their plans. They like making sure child molesters and the like hold high offices because those sorts can be more easily controlled.
Irene wrote: "James Morcan wrote: "Did you guys hear the theory that the masterminds behind 9/11 (assuming it was indeed an Inside Job) used training drills as a distraction?Apparently there were dozens of tra..."
Oops AND Yes I have heard that they used drills as a distraction. They do that all the time with all their false flags.
Irene wrote: "I find its more helpful to explain to ppl that inside job does not mean everyone in gov is bad. Really, it's a sect of elite globalist masters who have penetrated the government. That's what I believe anyway. And they threaten ppl who don't go along with their plans. They like making sure child molesters and the like hold high offices because those sorts can be more easily controlled. ..."Yes...Yes...YES!
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Thanks for sharing that, Stephen.
It sounds to me like you and your team at the hospital may have received an early report of the truth of the event - before the propaganda story replaced it in the media...